Mrs. HUNTER. Oh--it was----

Mr. LIEBELER. Is that when you saw her on television after the

assassination?

Mrs. HUNTER. No; the first time I seen her, she looked just common,

just like she did down there at the store that day, and I guess it was

when they fixed her up--it must have been after the funeral and she

was meeting with these people or something, because it was quite a

discussion about how pretty she was and why she let herself go before,

because we had discussed it that maybe he didn't want her to fix up or

something.

Mr. LIEBELER. How long was it after the assassination that you noticed

this difference between Marina Oswald as she appeared on television and

in the paper?

Mrs. HUNTER. Well, now, you may think I'm funny, but I didn't pay no

attention at all to that television--my television wasn't on when he

got killed or the parade or nothing. I was sitting at the table and

after it happened, I wouldn't watch the television--I didn't watch none

of the burial procedures or anything--any of that.

Mr. LIEBELER. But at some point you noticed that Marina Oswald looked

different than she had the day she was in the store?

Mrs. HUNTER. Yes.

Mr. LIEBELER. My question is, when did you first notice that?

Mrs. HUNTER. Well, it was undoubtedly quite a few days or several days

after Oswald--after Jack Ruby killed Oswald.

Mr. LIEBELER. As much as a week after that?

Mrs. HUNTER. Well--it was just after that--I wouldn't say just definite

what time it was, because, you don't notice anything like that.

Naturally, it's going to pop in your mind when you do notice something

like that, but just as soon as I seen her fixed up on TV, I just

noticed it was quite a difference of how she looked then and before.

Mr. LIEBELER. You think it was within a week after the time Ruby shot

Oswald, is that right?

Mrs. HUNTER. I wouldn't say--not now, it has been too long ago.

Mr. LIEBELER. But you now do have some doubt in your mind after having

seen her as to whether you would even recognize her as the same person

that was in the store, is that right?

Mrs. HUNTER. Well, with the way her features looked on television now

and the way I seen her in the store--yes; because she dresses nice and

she's real cute. She dresses cute and she was sloppy in the store that

day.

Mr. LIEBELER. Her face hasn't changed any, has it, she has the same

face.

Mrs. HUNTER. Oh, her hair makes a difference now. I might recognize

her--I wouldn't say I wouldn't or I would, but I don't know--I've made

the remark two or three times that she doesn't look like she did the

day I seen her in the store.

Mr. LIEBELER. But you still don't have any doubt in your mind that it

actually was she that was in the store the day you saw her?

Mrs. HUNTER. Well, I will say this, that the one I seen in the store

and the first time I seen her on television the first time was the same

woman--let's put it that way.

Mr. LIEBELER. Did you ever tell anybody that Oswald actually turned

down Irving Boulevard and went against the traffic when he came out of

the store and went against the traffic?

Mrs. HUNTER. Well, no; I didn't tell them that he went east. I told

them he started to turn east and I told him he was going the wrong

direction and he would have to turn back. Now, that woman from England

that came here--

Mr. LIEBELER. Were you there that day she came?

Mrs. HUNTER. Yes; she come to my house that night.

Mr. LIEBELER. Do you remember what you told her about that?

Mrs. HUNTER. Well, just the same thing--about the same thing I have

told you, because that's about all I know. I might have remembered

a few different little points then that have slipped my mind now,

but that's just like what I told you, I guess a few little ends and

odds have slipped, but that's just about all I know, because I wasn't

expecting that and I wasn't looking for nothing like that and I just

didn't think too much about it.

Mr. LIEBELER. Did Mrs. Whitworth see these people get in the car and

drive away, do you know?

Mrs. HUNTER. I don't know, because she was on that side where they come

out and I was on this--at a door standing in the door.

Mr. LIEBELER. You were closer to the door than Mrs. Whitworth?

Mrs. HUNTER. No; I was closer to the car than she was. She was back

down here where they generally went into the store.

Mr. LIEBELER. She was further away from the front door where the car

was parked than you were?

Mrs. HUNTER. Now, I don't know whether she was in the door or not. I

have never discussed it with her.

Mr. LIEBELER. And you have never told Mrs. Whitworth that this man got

in the car and drove the wrong way down the street?

Mrs. HUNTER. The only thing that--I says, "He started to go back down

Irving Boulevard." I did say that to her one day because it was a

one-way street and he was going the wrong way then.

Mr. LIEBELER. Do you think if we have Mrs. Oswald come in here next

Friday morning and you come in and look at her and the children too, do

you think you would be able to come here and tell us if they were the

people that were in that store?

Mrs. HUNTER. Well, I wouldn't say--I just wouldn't say.

Mr. LIEBELER. Well, we have asked Mrs. Whitworth to come in--to come

back Friday morning at 9 o'clock and we will have Mrs. Oswald and the

babies come in and we would like for you to come back to see if they

were the people in the store. Would you be willing to do that?

Mrs. HUNTER. Yes; I will be willing to do it, but now, it's like I

say--I wouldn't say I would recognize her now because she is pretty now.

Mr. LIEBELER. Do you think she would recognize you, do you think she

would remember being in the store if she had really been in there?

Mrs. HUNTER. I wouldn't know that--that's her--I don't know because I

never did interfere with the people that come in there to do business

with her or I I never did say anything to them and I never did answer

her telephone or nothing at that business. I was just sitting in there

talking to her.

Mr. LIEBELER. Let me suspend with the questioning now, Mrs. Hunter,

until Friday morning.

Mrs. HUNTER. This Friday morning?

Mr. LIEBELER. Yes; day after tomorrow. You and Mrs. Whitworth can come

back at that time and we will bring Mrs. Oswald here.

Mrs. HUNTER. That's all right. She is pretty now but she wasn't then.

Mr. LIEBELER. Before you go, I want to show you some pictures here and

ask you if you recognize any of the people in them. I show you Pizzo

Exhibit No. 453-A and ask if you recognize anybody in that picture.

Mrs. HUNTER. Well, just not offhand--not, no; I don't.

Mr. LIEBELER. I will ask you the same question with regard to Pizzo

Exhibit No. 453-B.

Mrs. HUNTER. No.

Mr. LIEBELER. You don't recognize anybody in that picture?

Mrs. HUNTER. No.

Mr. LIEBELER. The same question with respect to Bringuier Exhibit No. 1.

Mrs. HUNTER. No; not dressed like that--I don't.

Mr. LIEBELER. I show you Commission Exhibit No. 177 and ask if you

recognize anybody in that picture.

Mrs. HUNTER. Yes.

Mr. LIEBELER. You are pointing to a woman that's holding a child.

Mrs. HUNTER. I don't know what she's holding--I can't tell that.

Mr. LIEBELER. Anyway, there is a woman sitting there in a chair?

Mrs. HUNTER. Yes.

Mr. LIEBELER. As we face the picture, it's on the farthest left, is

that right, and who is that?

Mrs. HUNTER. Well, that looks like her a little bit--but she's got her

hair fixed still different than she had it in the store that day.

Mr. LIEBELER. What about the man sitting right next to her, does he

look like the man that was in the store that day?

Mrs. HUNTER. No.

Mr. LIEBELER. You don't think he resembles the man that was in the

store?

Mrs. HUNTER. No; that's not him, and that's Mrs. Oswald. That may be

a brother, but that's not him. I never did see his brother because I

didn't watch none of that. I just didn't want to live with it.

Mr. LIEBELER. Now, I show you a picture that has been marked Garner

Exhibit No. 1 and ask you if that looks like anybody you have ever seen

before.

Mrs. HUNTER. Well, now, looking from up this way it could be--from here

up--it could be.

Mr. LIEBELER. You think that that resembles the man who was in the

store somewhat?

Mrs. HUNTER. I would say he's kind of built that way.

Mr. LIEBELER. What about Pizzo Exhibit No. 453-C, does that look like

the man who was in the store?

Mrs. HUNTER. Well, it could look like him some, but he was not dressed

that way.

Mr. LIEBELER. You are not sure that that was him?

Mrs. HUNTER. No; I wouldn't say it was with him dressed that way

because I didn't have that much hankering to really tell what he

really looked like and it has been so long since I've seen it on the

television that I wouldn't guarantee that--not looking for nothing.

Mr. LIEBELER. All right, thank you very much. We will see you on Friday.

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