Mr. LIEBELER. Is that when you saw her on television after the
assassination?
Mrs. HUNTER. No; the first time I seen her, she looked just common,
just like she did down there at the store that day, and I guess it was
when they fixed her up--it must have been after the funeral and she
was meeting with these people or something, because it was quite a
discussion about how pretty she was and why she let herself go before,
because we had discussed it that maybe he didn't want her to fix up or
something.
Mr. LIEBELER. How long was it after the assassination that you noticed
this difference between Marina Oswald as she appeared on television and
in the paper?
Mrs. HUNTER. Well, now, you may think I'm funny, but I didn't pay no
attention at all to that television--my television wasn't on when he
got killed or the parade or nothing. I was sitting at the table and
after it happened, I wouldn't watch the television--I didn't watch none
of the burial procedures or anything--any of that.
Mr. LIEBELER. But at some point you noticed that Marina Oswald looked
different than she had the day she was in the store?
Mrs. HUNTER. Yes.
Mr. LIEBELER. My question is, when did you first notice that?
Mrs. HUNTER. Well, it was undoubtedly quite a few days or several days
after Oswald--after Jack Ruby killed Oswald.
Mr. LIEBELER. As much as a week after that?
Mrs. HUNTER. Well--it was just after that--I wouldn't say just definite
what time it was, because, you don't notice anything like that.
Naturally, it's going to pop in your mind when you do notice something
like that, but just as soon as I seen her fixed up on TV, I just
noticed it was quite a difference of how she looked then and before.
Mr. LIEBELER. You think it was within a week after the time Ruby shot
Oswald, is that right?
Mrs. HUNTER. I wouldn't say--not now, it has been too long ago.
Mr. LIEBELER. But you now do have some doubt in your mind after having
seen her as to whether you would even recognize her as the same person
that was in the store, is that right?
Mrs. HUNTER. Well, with the way her features looked on television now
and the way I seen her in the store--yes; because she dresses nice and
she's real cute. She dresses cute and she was sloppy in the store that
day.
Mr. LIEBELER. Her face hasn't changed any, has it, she has the same
face.
Mrs. HUNTER. Oh, her hair makes a difference now. I might recognize
her--I wouldn't say I wouldn't or I would, but I don't know--I've made
the remark two or three times that she doesn't look like she did the
day I seen her in the store.
Mr. LIEBELER. But you still don't have any doubt in your mind that it
actually was she that was in the store the day you saw her?
Mrs. HUNTER. Well, I will say this, that the one I seen in the store
and the first time I seen her on television the first time was the same
woman--let's put it that way.
Mr. LIEBELER. Did you ever tell anybody that Oswald actually turned
down Irving Boulevard and went against the traffic when he came out of
the store and went against the traffic?
Mrs. HUNTER. Well, no; I didn't tell them that he went east. I told
them he started to turn east and I told him he was going the wrong
direction and he would have to turn back. Now, that woman from England
that came here--
Mr. LIEBELER. Were you there that day she came?
Mrs. HUNTER. Yes; she come to my house that night.
Mr. LIEBELER. Do you remember what you told her about that?
Mrs. HUNTER. Well, just the same thing--about the same thing I have
told you, because that's about all I know. I might have remembered
a few different little points then that have slipped my mind now,
but that's just like what I told you, I guess a few little ends and
odds have slipped, but that's just about all I know, because I wasn't
expecting that and I wasn't looking for nothing like that and I just
didn't think too much about it.
Mr. LIEBELER. Did Mrs. Whitworth see these people get in the car and
drive away, do you know?
Mrs. HUNTER. I don't know, because she was on that side where they come
out and I was on this--at a door standing in the door.
Mr. LIEBELER. You were closer to the door than Mrs. Whitworth?
Mrs. HUNTER. No; I was closer to the car than she was. She was back
down here where they generally went into the store.
Mr. LIEBELER. She was further away from the front door where the car
was parked than you were?
Mrs. HUNTER. Now, I don't know whether she was in the door or not. I
have never discussed it with her.
Mr. LIEBELER. And you have never told Mrs. Whitworth that this man got
in the car and drove the wrong way down the street?
Mrs. HUNTER. The only thing that--I says, "He started to go back down
Irving Boulevard." I did say that to her one day because it was a
one-way street and he was going the wrong way then.
Mr. LIEBELER. Do you think if we have Mrs. Oswald come in here next
Friday morning and you come in and look at her and the children too, do
you think you would be able to come here and tell us if they were the
people that were in that store?
Mrs. HUNTER. Well, I wouldn't say--I just wouldn't say.
Mr. LIEBELER. Well, we have asked Mrs. Whitworth to come in--to come
back Friday morning at 9 o'clock and we will have Mrs. Oswald and the
babies come in and we would like for you to come back to see if they
were the people in the store. Would you be willing to do that?
Mrs. HUNTER. Yes; I will be willing to do it, but now, it's like I
say--I wouldn't say I would recognize her now because she is pretty now.
Mr. LIEBELER. Do you think she would recognize you, do you think she
would remember being in the store if she had really been in there?
Mrs. HUNTER. I wouldn't know that--that's her--I don't know because I
never did interfere with the people that come in there to do business
with her or I I never did say anything to them and I never did answer
her telephone or nothing at that business. I was just sitting in there
talking to her.
Mr. LIEBELER. Let me suspend with the questioning now, Mrs. Hunter,
until Friday morning.
Mrs. HUNTER. This Friday morning?
Mr. LIEBELER. Yes; day after tomorrow. You and Mrs. Whitworth can come
back at that time and we will bring Mrs. Oswald here.
Mrs. HUNTER. That's all right. She is pretty now but she wasn't then.
Mr. LIEBELER. Before you go, I want to show you some pictures here and
ask you if you recognize any of the people in them. I show you Pizzo
Exhibit No. 453-A and ask if you recognize anybody in that picture.
Mrs. HUNTER. Well, just not offhand--not, no; I don't.
Mr. LIEBELER. I will ask you the same question with regard to Pizzo
Exhibit No. 453-B.
Mrs. HUNTER. No.
Mr. LIEBELER. You don't recognize anybody in that picture?
Mrs. HUNTER. No.
Mr. LIEBELER. The same question with respect to Bringuier Exhibit No. 1.
Mrs. HUNTER. No; not dressed like that--I don't.
Mr. LIEBELER. I show you Commission Exhibit No. 177 and ask if you
recognize anybody in that picture.
Mrs. HUNTER. Yes.
Mr. LIEBELER. You are pointing to a woman that's holding a child.
Mrs. HUNTER. I don't know what she's holding--I can't tell that.
Mr. LIEBELER. Anyway, there is a woman sitting there in a chair?
Mrs. HUNTER. Yes.
Mr. LIEBELER. As we face the picture, it's on the farthest left, is
that right, and who is that?
Mrs. HUNTER. Well, that looks like her a little bit--but she's got her
hair fixed still different than she had it in the store that day.
Mr. LIEBELER. What about the man sitting right next to her, does he
look like the man that was in the store that day?
Mrs. HUNTER. No.
Mr. LIEBELER. You don't think he resembles the man that was in the
store?
Mrs. HUNTER. No; that's not him, and that's Mrs. Oswald. That may be
a brother, but that's not him. I never did see his brother because I
didn't watch none of that. I just didn't want to live with it.
Mr. LIEBELER. Now, I show you a picture that has been marked Garner
Exhibit No. 1 and ask you if that looks like anybody you have ever seen
before.
Mrs. HUNTER. Well, now, looking from up this way it could be--from here
up--it could be.
Mr. LIEBELER. You think that that resembles the man who was in the
store somewhat?
Mrs. HUNTER. I would say he's kind of built that way.
Mr. LIEBELER. What about Pizzo Exhibit No. 453-C, does that look like
the man who was in the store?
Mrs. HUNTER. Well, it could look like him some, but he was not dressed
that way.
Mr. LIEBELER. You are not sure that that was him?
Mrs. HUNTER. No; I wouldn't say it was with him dressed that way
because I didn't have that much hankering to really tell what he
really looked like and it has been so long since I've seen it on the
television that I wouldn't guarantee that--not looking for nothing.
Mr. LIEBELER. All right, thank you very much. We will see you on Friday.