Mr. PIC. No; I couldn't recognize that.
Mr. JENNER. Because this magazine says that it is.
Mr. PIC. No, sir; I couldn't recognize him from that picture.
Mr. JENNER. You don't recognize anybody else in the picture after
studying it that appears to be your brother? When I say your brother
now, I am talking about Lee.
Mr. PIC. No, sir.
Mr. JENNER. In the upper portion there are a series of photographs
spread from left-hand page across to the right-hand page. Take those on
the left which appears to be a photograph of three young men. Do you
recognize the persons shown in that photograph?
Mr. PIC. Yes; I recognize this photograph, the people from left to
right being Robert Oswald, the center one being Lee Oswald, and the
third one being myself. This picture was taken at the house in Dallas
when we returned from New Orleans.
Mr. JENNER. You mean from--when you came from New Orleans after being
at the Bethlehem Orphanage Home?
Mr. PIC. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. And you went to Dallas?
Mr. PIC. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. It was taken in Dallas at or about that time?
Mr. PIC. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. The next one is prominent; in front is a picture of a young
boy. There is a partially shown girl and apparently another boy with a
striped shirt in the background. Do you recognize that picture?
Mr. PIC. Yes; I recognize that as Lee Harvey Oswald.
Mr. JENNER. Do you have any impression as to when and where that was
taken?
Mr. PIC. Just looking at the picture, I would guess first, second
grade, maybe. I would have to guess at it.
Mr. JENNER. Then there is one immediately to the right of that, a
young man in the foreground sitting on the floor, with his knees,
legs crossed, and his arms also crossed. There are some other people
apparently in the background.
Mr. PIC. I recognize that as Lee Harvey Oswald.
Mr. JENNER. Does anything about the picture enable you to identify as
to where that was taken?
Mr. PIC. No, sir.
Mr. JENNER. Then to the right there is a picture of two young men, the
upper portion of the--one young man at the bottom and then apparently a
young man standing up in back of that person. Do you recognize either
of those young people?
Mr. PIC. Yes; I recognize Lee Harvey Oswald.
Mr. JENNER. Is he the one to which the black arrow is pointing?
Mr. PIC. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. Then right below that is a picture of a young man standing
in front of an iron fence, which appears to be probably at a zoo. Do
you recognize that?
Mr. PIC. Sir, from that picture, I could not recognize that that is Lee
Harvey Oswald.
Mr. JENNER. That young fellow is shown there, he doesn't look like you
recall Lee looked in 1952 and 1953 when you saw him in New York City?
Mr. PIC. No, sir.
Mr. JENNER. Commission Exhibit No. 284--do you recognize anybody in
that picture that appears to be Lee Oswald?
Mr. PIC. No, sir.
Mr. JENNER. There is a young fellow in the foreground--everybody else
is facing the other way. He is in a pantomime, or grimace. Do you
recognize that as Lee Harvey Oswald?
Mr. PIC. No, sir; looking at that picture--and I have looked at it
several times--that looks more like Robert than it does Lee, to my
recollection.
Mr. JENNER. All right. On Exhibit No. 286, the lower right-hand corner,
there is another picture. Do you recognize that as your brother Lee in
that picture?
Mr. PIC. Yes, sir; that is about how he looked when I seen him in 1962,
his profile.
Mr. JENNER. Do you recognize the person, the lady to the right who is
pointing her finger at him?
Mr. PIC. No, sir; I don't.
Mr. JENNER. Exhibit No. 287 is two figures, taking them from top to
bottom and in the lower right-hand corner, do you recognize those?
Mr. PIC. No, sir; I don't.
Mr. JENNER. Neither one of them?
Mr. PIC. No, sir. The lower one appears to me to look like Robert
rather than Lee. The upper one, unless they tell me that, I would never
guess that that would be Lee, sir.
Mr. JENNER. All right. Exhibit No. 288, there is in the lower left-hand
corner, there is a reproduction of a service card and a reproduction,
also, of a photograph with the head of a man. Do you recognize that?
Mr. PIC. That looks to me approximately how Lee Oswald looked when I
seen him Thanksgiving 1962.
Mr. JENNER. Directing your attention to Exhibit, Commission Exhibit No.
289, do you recognize any of the servicemen shown in that picture as
your brother Lee?
Mr. PIC. No, sir; I do not recognize them.
Mr. JENNER. Exhibit No. 290, the lower left-hand corner there is a
photograph of a young lady and a young man. Do you recognize either of
those persons?
Mr. PIC. He appears to me as Lee Harvey Oswald in 1962 when I seen him.
Mr. JENNER. And the lady?
Mr. PIC. She is his wife, Marina, sir.
Mr. JENNER. Commission Exhibit No. 291, at the bottom of the page,
there is a picture of a young man handing out a leaflet, and another
man to the left of him who is reaching out for it. Do you recognize the
young man handing out the leaflet?
Mr. PIC. No, sir; I would be unable to recognize him.
Mr. JENNER. As to whether he was your brother?
Mr. PIC. That is correct.
Mr. JENNER. Exhibit No. 292, in the upper right-hand corner, is a
picture of a lady, a young lady with a child. Do you recognize either
of those persons?
Mr. PIC. Yes; I recognize Marina Oswald.
Mr. JENNER. And the baby?
Mr. PIC. No, sir; I couldn't recognize the baby.
Mr. JENNER. Below that is a picture purporting to be that of your
brother with a pistol on his right hip, and with a firearm, a rifle
in his left hand holding up what appear to be some leaflets. Do you
recognize that as your brother Lee?
Mr. PIC. That is how he looked to me in 1962 when I seen him, sir.
Mr. JENNER. That is a duplicate of the picture on the cover. You have
produced for us a series of letters from your mother to yourself, from
your brother Lee to yourself, and from your brother Robert to yourself
which have been marked John Pic Exhibits Nos. 6 through 47, inclusive.
Did you assist Mr. Ely, in the preparation of this list of exhibits?
Mr. PIC. No, sir; I arranged the stacks. He took it from the stacks I
arranged previously.
Mr. JENNER. For the purpose of the record, then, John Pic Exhibit No. 6
is a letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic, postmarked May 8, 1950,
and its accompanying envelope as John Pic Exhibit No. 6-A. John Pic
Exhibit No. 7 is a letter from your mother to you, postmarked May 23,
1950, or the envelope is so postmarked. Its accompanying envelope being
marked John Pic Exhibit No. 7-A. John Pic Exhibit No. 8, a letter from
Marguerite Oswald to John Pic enclosed in envelope, Exhibit No. 8-A,
postmarked at Fort Worth, May 24, 1950.
By the way, Exhibit No. 6-A is postmarked Fort Worth. All of these
exhibits until I indicate otherwise from here on are marked with a
return address to M. Oswald, 9048 Ewing, Fort Worth, Tex.
Mr. PIC. 7408.
Mr. JENNER. What did I say? 7408; that is correct. You are right.
Exhibit No. 9 is a letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic,
accompanying envelope is Exhibit No. 9-A postmarked June 9, 1950.
Exhibit No. 10 and its reverse side, which is marked Exhibit No. 10-B,
is a letter from Lee Harvey Oswald to John Pic enclosed in envelope
marked John Pic Exhibit No. 10-A, postmarked at Fort Worth, Tex., on
August 23, 1950. This envelope has no return address on it.
Exhibit No. 11 is a letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic in an
envelope postmarked August 15, 1950, marked Exhibit No. 11-A.
Exhibit No. 12 is a letter from Marguerite to John Pic enclosed in
envelope postmarked November 6, 1950, and identified as John Pic
Exhibit No. 12-A.
The next is John Pic Exhibit No. 13, a letter from Marguerite Oswald
to John Pic enclosed in envelope postmarked December 13, 1950, the
envelope being marked John Pic Exhibit No. 13-A. This does have the
return address Lee Oswald, 7408 Ewing, Fort Worth, Tex.
The next is a short longhand note on a small sheet marked John Pic
Exhibit No. 14 which is undated, Lee Harvey Oswald to John Pic, which
was enclosed with Exhibit No. 13.
The next is a card, Christmas card, marked John Pic Exhibit No. 15,
inside cover of which in longhand says, "Dear Pic," and then there is
in longhand and pencil "I sure am sorry that you can't come home for
Christmas so I am sending you this fruitcake. Merry Christmas"--spelled
Mary--"from Lee."
The next is John Pic No. 16, a letter from Marguerite Oswald to John
Pic enclosed in envelope marked Pic Exhibit No. 16-A and postmarked in
Fort Worth, April 16, 1951, with the usual return address.
Exhibit No. 17 is a letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic enclosed
in envelope postmarked at Fort Worth on April 23, 1951. That envelope
is marked John Pic Exhibit No. 17-A. The previous envelope in which
Exhibit No. 16 was enclosed was marked Exhibit No. 16-A. I will say for
the record in each instance where there is a letter accompanied by an
envelope, the envelope is marked with a letter "A" but with the same
number as the letter.
Exhibit No. 18 is a letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic enclosed
in an envelope marked Exhibit No. 18-A, postmarked at Fort Worth, May
22, 1951.
The next is Exhibit No. 19, a letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic
enclosed in an envelope marked Exhibit No. 19-A, postmarked at Fort
Worth on June 18, 1951.
Exhibit No. 20 is a letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic and
Exhibit No. 20-B is a birthday card from Marguerite. Both are enclosed
in an envelope marked John Pic Exhibit No. 20-A, postmarked at Fort
Worth, Tex., June 14, 1952, bearing the usual return address.
Exhibit No. 21 is a letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic enclosed
in an envelope marked Pic Exhibit No. 21-A, postmarked Fort Worth, July
14, 1952, with the usual return address.
The next is a letter without an envelope which is marked John Pic
Exhibit No. 22. The letter is dated May 10, 1954.
The Exhibit No. 23 is a letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic
enclosed is an envelope, Exhibit No. 23-A, postmarked in New Orleans on
June 14, 1954, containing the return address, M. Oswald, 1454 St. Mary,
New Orleans, La.
The next is Exhibit No. 24; it is a letter from Marguerite Oswald to
John Pic enclosed in an envelope postmarked at New Orleans, October 14,
1954, which in turn is marked John Pic Exhibit No. 24-A. It contains
the return address, M. Oswald, 126 Exchange, New Orleans, La. If I
neglected to do so, Exhibit No. 22 is the letter from Marguerite Oswald
to John Pic.
Exhibit No. 25 also is a letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic
enclosed in an envelope marked Exhibit No. 25-A, postmarked at New
Orleans, La., on November 12, 1954, containing return address, M.
Oswald, 126 Exchange, New Orleans, La.
Exhibit No. 26 is a letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic enclosed
in an envelope marked Exhibit No. 26-A, postmarked at New Orleans, La.,
on November 11, 1954, return address, Mrs. M. Oswald, 126 Exchange, New
Orleans, La. Mr. Pic, are Exhibits Nos. 6 and 6-A, 7 and 7-A, 8 and
8-A, 9 and 9-A, 10 and 10-A, 11 and 11-A--excuse me, strike out that 10
and 10-A--11 and 11-A, 12 and 12-A, 16 and 16-A, 17 and 17-A, 18 and
18-A, 19 and 19-A, 20 and 20-A, 21 and 21-A, 22, 23 and 23-A, 24 and
24-A, 25 and 25-A, 26 and 26-A, all in the handwriting of your mother
Marguerite Oswald?
Mr. PIC. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. And were those envelopes addressed to you at various places
you were then, that is as of the time they were postmarked received by
you at or about the postmarked dates or shortly thereafter which each
envelope bears?
Mr. PIC. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. There is one exhibit that doesn't have an envelope. Was
that letter received by you shortly after the date it bears?
Mr. PIC. You refer to Exhibit No. 22, sir?
Mr. JENNER. Yes, sir.
Mr. PIC. To the best of my knowledge; yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. These are all, they all consist of correspondence from your
mother to you?
Mr. PIC. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. And they happen to be correspondence which you have
retained over the years?
Mr. PIC. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. Except for the exhibit marks on those, they are in the same
condition now as they were at the time you received them and opened
them in the case of the envelopes?
Mr. PIC. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. And that the letters are in the condition they were at the
time you read them?
Mr. PIC. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. Go back to Pic Exhibit No. 10, in whose handwriting is that
exhibit?
Mr. PIC. Exhibit No. 10, sir, is in the handwriting of--there is
Exhibits Nos. 10, 10-A, and 10-B.
Mr. JENNER. Exhibit No. 10, I am referring to.
Mr. PIC. They are both in the handwriting of Lee Harvey Oswald.
Mr. JENNER. Exhibits Nos. 10 and 10-A; correct?
Mr. PIC. No, sir; Exhibits Nos. 10, 10-A, and 10-B. Exhibit No. 10 is
the insert in envelope Exhibit No. 10-A.
Mr. JENNER. Then look at Exhibits Nos. 13 and 13-A.
Mr. PIC. They are marked Exhibits Nos. 13 and 13-A, sir.
Mr. JENNER. All right. The contents are marked Exhibit No. 13.
Mr. PIC. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. In whose handwriting is the envelope?
Mr. PIC. Lee Harvey Oswald's.
Mr. JENNER. And whose handwriting is that which appears in the inside
of that card?
Mr. PIC. My mother's, sir.
Mr. JENNER. Is there any handwriting of Lee Harvey Oswald on that card?
Mr. PIC. No, sir.
Mr. JENNER. The card was enclosed, was it in the exhibit marked John
Pic No. 13-A?
Mr. PIC. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. Turn to Exhibit No. 14. That is a note you received from
your brother?
Mr. PIC. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. Is that in his handwriting?
Mr. PIC. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. It is undated.
Mr. PIC. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. Do you have the envelope in which that was enclosed?
Mr. PIC. Sir, it may be Exhibit No. 13-A, I don't know.
Mr. JENNER. It may have been enclosed in Exhibit No. 13-A?
Mr. PIC. It may have been enclosed in Exhibit No. 10-A, I don't know,
sir.
Mr. JENNER. In any event, it is in the handwriting of your brother?
Mr. PIC. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. And you received it in due course some time?
Mr. PIC. Yes, sir.