Mr. PIC. Well, the school in September 1940--I think I put in about
a year and a half in this Washington Elementary School after we were
taken out of Infant Jesus College.
Mr. JENNER. At that time didn't you live at 1242 Congress Street in New
Orleans?
Mr. PIC. Sir, if you have a map of New Orleans and show me where this
is maybe I can remember, but I don't remember anything but Bartholomew.
Mr. JENNER. For the purposes of refreshing your recollection the
records of the public school system of New Orleans reflect the
following: that you were enrolled at William Frantz School located at
3811 North Galvez when you were 4-1/2 years old on September 16, 1936.
You continued there thereafter until September 5, 1940.
Mr. PIC. September 1940.
Mr. JENNER. These records would show that you were discharged from the
William Frantz Elementary School on January 2, 1940.
Mr. PIC. That is better.
Mr. JENNER. And that you reentered William Frantz on September 5, 1940,
and you transferred to George Washington Elementary School on November
12, 1940.
At the time of the transfer you lived at 1242 Congress Street. Your
mother purchased the house at 1010 Bartholomew on the 5th of March
1941. And she sold it on the 16th of January 1942.
With that information, does that serve to refresh your recollection
that the course of circumstances might have been these. I will state
them and then you correct me. I don't want you to take my word for it
but this is solely for the purpose of refreshing your recollection, if
it does refresh your recollection.
Your stepfather died in August of 1939. In the winter of 1940, early,
sometime in January 1940, your mother took you and your brother,
Robert, out of school, you were in the William Frantz Elementary School
at that time, and placed you in the Catholic school.
Mr. PIC. I think prior or right after this Catholic school there was
another school which was in downtown New Orleans. It was a day school.
She would bring us there in the morning and take us home at night. I
don't remember too much. We didn't stay there very long.
Mr. JENNER. It is your definite recollection, however, that you were
at the Catholic orphanage school in the winter of 1940, which would be
approximately 5 months after the death of your stepfather.
Mr. PIC. No, sir; I don't make that statement. I make the statement
that it is my definite recollection I was in the Infant Jesus College
School while we lived in this house on Alvez. What months these were,
sir, I don't know.
Mr. JENNER. And it is the best of your recollection at the present time
that that was the school period ending in the summer of 1940?
Mr. PIC. I think so, sir.
Mr. JENNER. What is your recollection as to the school you attended
commencing the school year September 1940? Did you return to William
Frantz?
Mr. PIC. I went to George Washington--if I was there at William Frantz,
I don't remember. Well, the dates you give me it would be----
Mr. JENNER. A short time?
Mr. PIC. Right. I remember George Washington.
Mr. JENNER. Were you living at home at that time?
Mr. PIC. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. Was that 1242 Congress?
Mr. PIC. I don't know, sir.
Mr. JENNER. Would a map of New Orleans help you any?
Mr. PIC. Possible; I don't remember this Congress, I remember a green
house, this was a green house I remember. What street it was on, I
don't know. But I do remember something about a green house.
Mr. JENNER. Was it in the French quarter, in the old city?
Mr. PIC. The way I remember the French quarter is down in here
somewhere, and this is certainly not the French quarter. Here is this
Gretna. It may be in Algiers that Infant Jesus, one of these two,
either Gretna or Algiers. I think it was Gretna.
Mr. JENNER. Your mother said it was Algiers, and there is evidence that
it was located in Algiers.
Mr. PIC. OK, sir; Algiers. I know it was across the river.
Mr. JENNER. You do have a recollection, however, of living in a house
on Bartholomew?
Mr. PIC. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. Do you happen to remember, you don't remember now the exact
address?
Mr. PIC. No, sir.
Mr. JENNER. It was at 1010 Bartholomew. Did you live in the 1010
Bartholomew house?
Mr. PIC. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. Was it before or during, or when was it with respect to
when you and Robert entered the Bethlehem Orphanage?
Mr. PIC. We was living there when I went to Washington.
Mr. JENNER. George Washington Elementary School at 3810 St. Cloud?
Mr. PIC. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. Our records show your mother purchased the 1010 Bartholomew
property in March of 1941, March 9 to be exact.
Mr. PIC. When I was at Infant Jesus College, I couldn't very well
remember that Congress Street because I probably--we wasn't living
there.