IRISH REPRESENTATION AT WESTMINSTER.

The hybrid form of government proposed in the Home Rule Bills of 1886

and 1893 gave rise to a further difficulty, and one which went far

towards wrecking them both. Should Ireland under Home Rule be

represented at Westminster by its members and representative peers?

Under a system of Gladstonian Home Rule there appear to be only three

possible answers to this question. The Irish representatives may be

excluded altogether, they may be retained altogether, or they may be

retained in diminished numbers and with some limitation on their voting

powers.

The total exclusion clause in the Bill of 1886 was one of the most

unpopular parts of an unpopular Bill. It was immediately urged that this

arrangement was virtually equivalent to separation, and Mr. Gladstone

admitted[44] that the argument had force. Since 1886 public sentiment

has advanced in the direction of a closer Imperial unity, and it is

unlikely that the country will recur in 1912 to a proposal which in 1886

was admitted to be intolerable. Moreover, if the British Parliament is

to retain control of the whole foreign policy of the kingdom, and--what

is likely to be of enormous importance in the future--of its whole

fiscal policy, it would be manifestly unjust to deny to Ireland a voice

and vote in such matters. How would it be possible, for instance, to

discuss the effect upon agriculture of a Tariff Reform Budget in the

absence of competent representatives of the Irish farmers, or to

consider the yearly grant to be made (as it is said) in aid of Irish

finance without the assistance of any representatives of Ireland?

A recognition of the difficulties in the way of total exclusion led Mr.

Gladstone to propose, in 1893, what was known as the "popping-in-and-out

clause," under which Irish members would have sat at Westminster, but

would have voted only on Imperial measures. The best criticism of this

attempt to distinguish between local and Imperial matters was supplied

on another occasion by Mr. Gladstone himself:--

"I have thought much, reasoned much, and inquired much with regard

to that distinction, but I have arrived at the conclusion that it

cannot be drawn. I believe it passes the wit of man."

To distinguish between matters which might and those which could not

affect Ireland was impossible to the ordinary man, and the device of

committing all matters of special difficulty to the decision of Mr.

Speaker had not then its present vogue. Further, it was obvious that

under such a system a British Ministry might have on one day, when

English or Scottish affairs were under discussion, a commanding

majority; but on the next, when a vote possibly affecting the sister

island was in question, might find itself labouring in the trough of the

sea; while on the third day, that vote having been disposed of and the

Irish members having taken their leave, it might rise once more on the

crest of the wave. The proposal was too ludicrous to be long defended.

The sense of humour of the House prevailed over Mr. Gladstone's

earnestness, and he fell back on inclusion for all purposes.

But inclusion for all purposes had its own difficulties. Under the

Gladstonian system the Imperial Parliament would have considered, not

only matters affecting the whole kingdom, but also purely English or

purely Scottish affairs; and to give to the Irish representatives the

control in their own Parliament of purely Irish affairs, and also a

voice at Westminster on matters affecting England or Scotland only, was

obviously unjust. Such a power would have been used, not for the benefit

of England or Scotland, but as an instrument for wresting further

concessions for Ireland.

"I will never be a party," said Mr. Gladstone at one time, "to

allowing the Irish members to manage their own affairs in Dublin,

and at the same time to come over here and manage British affairs.

Such an arrangement would not be a Bill to grant self-government to

Ireland, but one to remove self-government from England; it would

create a subordinate Parliament indeed, but it would be the one at

Westminster, and not that in Dublin."[45]

The problem seems insoluble because, under a hybrid (or Gladstonian)

system of Home Rule, it is insoluble. If a clear line is taken, there

is no difficulty under this head. If full "responsible" or colonial

government is granted, clearly representation in the Imperial Parliament

(I do not now speak of a federal assembly) is an anomaly. On the other

hand, if nothing more is in question than the extension of local

government generally known as Devolution, then adequate representation

in the Imperial Parliament is a matter of course. If a federal

government is established, each member of the Federation must needs be

represented in the federal Parliament; but in that case there must be no

attempt to entrust to the same assembly both the duties of the federal

Parliament and those of a Legislature for one of the federating states.

It was this attempt to treat the Imperial Parliament as the local or

state Legislature for Great Britain, and also as the federal Parliament

for Great Britain and Ireland, which was fatal to Mr. Gladstone's

proposals.

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