Mr. STENHOUSE. No; I can’t. They were very----

Mr. VELDE. Can you recall the name of any individual discussing any

particular item?

Mr. STENHOUSE. No, I don’t.

Mr. VELDE. By physical description?

Mr. STENHOUSE. No. They were very informal discussions. We just

exchanged ideas back and forth. Somebody had read an article out of a

paper or one of the publications, and we discussed it, and that was

about it.

Mr. VELDE. Your impression was, however, that it was a Communist Party

discussion group?

Mr. STENHOUSE. Yes, that is my impression.

Mr. VELDE. Did you discuss Marxism?

Mr. STENHOUSE. No.

Mr. VELDE. You cannot recall what you discussed except that you vaguely

remember it was a Communist Party discussion?

Mr. STENHOUSE. I say we were discussing foreign affairs, domestic

problems. I remember at that time the question of price control was in

people’s minds, and I am pretty sure that that was one of the things we

discussed.

They were nothing more nor less than an attempt, from a certain

viewpoint, to study and explain, if you like, the phenomena we were

living in.

Mr. VELDE. Have you no independent recollection whatsoever of how you

happened to get into the first meeting?

Mr. STENHOUSE. Except that I was invited, as far as I remember, by this

fellow that I have described.

Mr. VELDE. But do you remember his name?

Mr. STENHOUSE. I probably saw him not more than, oh, 20 times during

the whole time I was in Washington. And there were many people in

Washington whom I saw every day, whose names I can’t remember.

Another thing, Mr. Congressman, we discussed the same topics from a

different viewpoint with other people. And it is very hard to remember

now exactly which topic was discussed at which meeting.

Mr. VELDE. I am sure, Mr. Stenhouse, it is very hard to remember

exactly. But certainly I think that a person of average intelligence

and a fair memory could remember at least one person.

Mr. STENHOUSE. If I could name them I would. And in offering to go over

a list of names, I have done the best I can to cooperate with your

committee.

Mr. MOULDER. When you filed your application for Government employment

did you file Government form 57?

Mr. STENHOUSE. Yes, sir.

Mr. MOULDER. Do you remember the names of the persons you gave as

references on that application?

Mr. STENHOUSE. Well, if form 57 requires references, I don’t---- Maybe

it wasn’t form 57. I don’t want this to be misinterpreted.

Mr. MOULDER. It is a standard application form required by governmental

departments.

Mr. STENHOUSE. I don’t recall any application in which I put

references. It may be so.

Mr. MOULDER. But you did make a written application setting forth your

experience and qualifications?

Mr. STENHOUSE. Oh, yes.

Mr. MOULDER. And was there an oath on that application?

Mr. STENHOUSE. Yes.

Mr. MOULDER. Which you had to sign?

Mr. STENHOUSE. Yes.

Mr. MOULDER. And did anyone recommend you for this position to which

you were assigned in Washington?

Mr. STENHOUSE. Somebody recommended me in the sense that they referred

my name and qualifications to Ellis Patterson.

Mr. MOULDER. Do you know who that person was?

Mr. STENHOUSE. I am not sure who it was. We had a large number of

friends from Los Angeles at that time, and it may have been one of the

people that we were active with in that Democratic campaign. I think it

probably was.

Mr. MOULDER. When you were made section chief, who was your immediate

superior?

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