WITNESS: Well, sir; he——

MR. WALTERS: Yes: speak up, please.

JUDGE: I must interpose. The witness cannot possibly know

what Mr. Jasper went to the Cathedral for.

MR. WALTERS: My Lord, with respectful submission to you, the

prisoner might have told him.

JUDGE: But for that purpose you must examine the prisoner in

chief.

MR. WALTERS: I think, my Lord, that you will find a

conversation took place between Durdles and the prisoner, and that I

am perfectly justified in asking what the conversation was.

JUDGE: Yes; I think so.

MR. WALTERS (_to witness_): Let us know what the

conversation was between you and Mr. Jasper.

WITNESS: He says to me, “Is there anything new in the

crypt?” and I says, “Anything new! Anything old, you mean.”

MR. WALTERS: Yes?

WITNESS: Yes.

MR. WALTERS: What happened then?

WITNESS: We went down in the crypt, and he give me a drink

out of his bottle. Fine stuff it was, too.

MR. WALTERS: And what about that bundle which I believe you

carried?

WITNESS: He asked me if he could carry my bundle.

MR. WALTERS: Yes?

WITNESS: Ay.

MR. WALTERS: What was in your bundle?

WITNESS: Durdles knows what was in his bundle. Keys, among

other things.

MR. WALTERS: Oh, keys. And I suppose you let him carry your

bundle?

WITNESS: I did. Well, I had another drink out of his bottle.

MR. WALTERS: Did you happen on that occasion to see any

quicklime lying about?

WITNESS: Well, there’s always quicklime lying about the

crypt. Always.

MR. WALTERS: You noticed it. Did Jasper happen to notice it?

WITNESS: He did. He asked me what it was for.

MR. WALTERS: Oh, he asked you what it was for. And did you

tell him?

WITNESS: Yes; I told him it ’ud burn anything; burn your

boots, and with a little handy stirring, it ’ud burn your bones.

MR. WALTERS: It would burn your bones with handy stirring.

And when he put that curious question to you, did it occur to you

there was a reason for it?

WITNESS: Durdles thinks everybody ’as a reason for

everything they says and does.

MR. WALTERS: When he asked you would that quicklime burn,

you thought he must have a reason for it?

WITNESS: Yes; so I did.

MR. WALTERS: People use quicklime for quite innocent

purposes, I believe, don’t they?

WITNESS: Yes.

MR. WALTERS: They use it for cement?

WITNESS: Yes.

MR. WALTERS: What else do they use it for?

WITNESS: Bodies.

MR. WALTERS: Did you think, by the way he was making his

inquiries, that he wanted to know if it would burn something else

besides ordinary stuff?

WITNESS: I didn’t think as ’ow he wanted a heap of quicklime

to burn his waste paper with.

MR. WALTERS: What happened next? You had a drink out of the

bottle, and you had a little talk: what happened then? Did you go

home?

WITNESS: No; I fell asleep.

MR. WALTERS: Oh, you fell asleep?

WITNESS: Yes.

MR. WALTERS: Anything else?

WITNESS: I had a dream.

MR. WALTERS: You had a dream before you woke up?

WITNESS: Yes.

MR. WALTERS: What was the nature of that dream?

WITNESS: I dreamt that Mister Jarsper was a-moving around

me, handling my keys, and I thought I was left alone in the dark.

Then I see a light coming back, and then I found Mr. Jarsper waking

me up, saying “Hi! wake up!”

MR. WALTERS: Did you wake up?

WITNESS: Yes.

MR. WALTERS: Did you remember how long you had been asleep?

WITNESS: A long time. I remember the clock struck two.

MR. WALTERS: And you went in about midnight?

WITNESS: Yes.

MR. WALTERS: You had two hours’ sleep?

WITNESS: Yes, I suppose so.

MR. WALTERS: Anything else? Did you notice anything?

WITNESS: When I woke up, I sees my key on the ground, and

I says, “I dropped you, did I?” So I picks it up, and asks Mister

Jarsper for my bundle.

MR. WALTERS: Did he give it to you?

WITNESS: Yes.

MR. WALTERS: I think you had on that occasion a little

conversation about a curious art of yours—tapping the tombs?

WITNESS: Yes; oh, yes—yes.

MR. WALTERS: Would you mind telling the court?

WITNESS: I told him, with my little hammer I could tap and

go on tapping, and I could tell whether anything was solid or whether

it was hollow. For instance, I says, “Tap, tap, old ’un crumbled up

in stone coffin in the vault!”

MR. WALTERS: That’s what you said, is it?

WITNESS: Yes.

MR. WALTERS: And what did Mr. Jasper say to that?

WITNESS: He said it was wonderful, and I says, “No; I ain’t

going to take it as a gift, ’cause it’s all out o’ my own head.”

MR. WALTERS: I understand you told him what you could do by

tapping the walls—tell whether it was hollow or solid?

WITNESS: Yes, Durdles can tell whether it’s hollow or solid

by its tap.

MR. WALTERS: Was he interested in your conversation?

WITNESS: Very much, sir.

MR. WALTERS: Did you happen to notice the Sapsea tomb?

WITNESS: Durdles knows the Sapsea tomb.

MR. WALTERS: There is only one body in that tomb at present?

WITNESS: Yes.

MR. WALTERS: Did you tap the Sapsea tomb with your hammer,

and did it sound surprising there?

WITNESS: It sounded more solid than usual.

MR. WALTERS: Since then, you have tapped it lately, and it

sounds a little more solid?

WITNESS: Yes.

MR. CHESTERTON: This is contrary to an understanding. This

is a formal witness, not to be cross-examined.

MR. WALTERS: Very well, I will go on. (_To witness._) Did

you meet him at another time?

MR. CHESTERTON: This is only formal evidence.

JUDGE: What is the point?

MR. CHESTERTON: You will find before you, my Lord, a

document, and you will find there that certain witnesses who are

to be cross-examined at length will be free to go beyond certain

admitted evidence. The formal witnesses are not to do so.

JUDGE (_after perusing the “Conditions”_): Yes, I think I

take your point, Mr. Chesterman—or Chesterton—whatever it is. The

point, I understand, is that you are cross-examining this witness as

if he were a principal witness of the trial.

MR. CHESTERTON: In the second paragraph I think you will

notice——

MR. WALTERS: It is not of great importance to me.

JUDGE: One moment: I will see. (_After reading the paragraph

referred to._) I think you are justified up to the point to which

you have gone, but I should recommend you to terminate it with some

rapidity.

MR. WALTERS: I only want to ask one question. (_To

witness._) You did have a conversation with Mr. Datchery?

WITNESS: Yes.

MR. CHESTERTON: I ask you to say, my Lord, that the Jury

must entirely disregard the statement about the tapping.

THE FOREMAN: How are we to dismiss it from our minds, my

Lord? It is a very difficult point.

MR. WALTERS: I think I shall leave the Jury to draw their

own conclusions. All I want to know from Durdles is, did he have a

conversation with Datchery?

WITNESS: Yes.

MR. WALTERS: Thank you. That is all.

WITNESS: Thank you, sir. I’ll drink your health on the way

home, p’raps twice, and I won’t go home till morning.

[DURDLES CROSS-EXAMINED.]

MR. CROTCH: One moment, please.

WITNESS: Oh, beg pardon, sir, beg pardon.

MR. CROTCH: Now, Durdles, you know all about the destructive

qualities of quicklime?

WITNESS: Yes.

MR. CROTCH: Do you say that quicklime will not destroy

metals?

WITNESS: No; I don’t think quicklime will destroy metals.

MR. CROTCH: You don’t think it will?

WITNESS: No, I knows it won’t.

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