MONEY-GRANTS TO INITIATE IN THE COMMONS (1407).

=Source.=--_Rotuli Parliamentorum_ (Record Commission), vol. iii.,

p. 611, § 21.

Be it remembered that on Monday the 21st day of November, the King our

sovereign lord being in the Council Chamber in the Abbey of Gloucester,

there being in his presence the lords spiritual and temporal at

this present Parliament assembled, there was a discussion among them

concerning the state of the realm and the defence of the same to

resist the malice of the enemies, who on every coast appeared to be

harassing the said realm and the faithful subjects of the same.... And

thereon it was demanded of the said lords, what aid would be sufficient

and necessary in this case. To which demand and question the lords

replied severally, that considering the necessity of the King on the

one part, and the poverty of his people on the other part, a less aid

could not suffice than to have a tenth and a half from the cities

and boroughs, and a fifteenth and a half from other laymen. Further,

to grant an extension of the subsidy on wool, leather and woolfels,

and three shillings on the ton, and twelve pence in the pound, from

Michaelmas next until Michaelmas in two years next ensuing. Thereon,

by command of the King our said lord, it was conveyed to the Commons

of this present Parliament that they should send to our said lord the

King and the said lords a certain number of persons of their company

to hear and to report to their colleagues what they should have as a

command of our said lord the King. And thereupon the said Commons sent

to the presence of the King our said lord, and the said lords, twelve

of their number: to whom, by command of our said lord the King, was

declared the question above-mentioned and the reply of the aforesaid

lords to it. This reply it was the will of our said lord the King that

they should convey to the rest of their colleagues [in the Commons];

finally that they (of the Commons) should conform as near as possible

to the purpose of the aforesaid lords. This report thus conveyed to the

said Commons, they were greatly perturbed by it, saying and affirming

this to be in great prejudice and derogation of their liberties; and

when our said lord the King heard this, not wishing that anything

should be done at present nor in the future, which could turn in any

wise against the liberty of the estate for which they were come to

Parliament, nor against the liberties of the lords aforesaid, willed

and granted and declared, with the advice of the said lords, in the

following manner: That is to say, that it is lawful for the lords to

debate among themselves in this present Parliament, and in every other

[Parliament] in time to come, in the absence of the King, touching the

state of the realm and the remedy necessary for it. And that, in like

manner, it is lawful for the Commons, on their part, to debate together

touching the state and remedy aforesaid. Provided always that the lords

on their part and the Commons on theirs, make no report to our said

lord the King of any grant granted by the Commons and assented to by

the lords, nor of the communications concerning the said grant, before

the said lords and Commons shall be of one assent and of one accord in

this matter, and then in the manner and form that is customary, that

is to say by the mouth of the Speaker of the said Commons for the time

being, so that the said lords and Commons should have the agreement of

our said lord the King. Also our said lord the King wills, also with

the assent of the aforesaid lords, that the communications held in this

present Parliament as aforesaid shall not be treated as an example for

the future, nor be turned to the prejudice or derogation of the liberty

of the estate for which the Commons are now come together, neither in

the present Parliament nor in any other in the future. But he [the

King] wills that the said, and all the other estates, be as free as

they had been before.

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