Mr. EISENBERG. Are you thinking of----

Mr. FRAZIER. I am thinking of other examinations which I made, but

which probably will come up at another time.

Mr. EISENBERG. You are referring to examinations such as the clothing,

holes in the clothing, and the fracture in the automobile windshield?

Mr. FRAZIER. Yes, sir.

Mr. EISENBERG. Yes. There will be testimony elicited at another time on

those examinations, Mr. Frazier.

Mr. McCLOY. Mr. Frazier will be a witness in those, too?

Mr. EISENBERG. Yes, sir.

Mr. Specter will probably elicit that testimony.

Mr. Chairman, or gentlemen, are there any other questions?

Thank you very much, Mr. Frazier.

Mr. FRAZIER. Excuse me. I have one photograph here that might be useful

in this regard, and that is of a clip showing the six cartridges loaded

into it.

Mr. McCLOY. I think that might be a good idea. You might identify that,

to show what we mean by clips.

Mr. EISENBERG. You have shown us photographs of a clip--the clip from

the Exhibit 139 rifle?

Mr. FRAZIER. Yes, sir.

Mr. EISENBERG. One photograph loaded, and one unloaded?

Mr. FRAZIER. Yes. In one instance I put six cartridges in the clip and

photographed it.

Mr. EISENBERG. Did you take those photographs?

Mr. FRAZIER. Yes, sir.

Mr. McCLOY. Mr. Frazier, you testified that if you didn't use the clip

you would only be able to shoot one shell at a time, is that right?

Mr. FRAZIER. Yes, sir; this weapon does not have the box magazine

commonly found in most military weapons which holds the cartridges

and can be reloaded one at a time, but they must remain in the clip,

or they will malfunction. The follower in the weapon will throw the

cartridges right back out of the gun.

Mr. McCLOY. That explains it to my mind, because I know I have fired

rifles with clips and fired them without clips. But they were much more

convenient in loading.

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