Mr. BALL. I mean the man you saw across the street?
Mr. CALLAWAY. Just a nice athletic type size boy, I mean. Neither fat
nor thin.
Mr. BALL. What did you estimate his weight when you talked to the
officer before the lineup?
Mr. CALLAWAY. I told him it looked to me like around 160 pounds.
Mr. DULLES. How fast was he going when you hailed him?
Mr. CALLAWAY. Just a good steady trot, not real fast.
Mr. DULLES. He was not walking and not running--it was a trot?
Mr. CALLAWAY. A trot; yes, sir.
Mr. DULLES. He stopped?
Mr. CALLAWAY. Almost. He slowed down, like a guy is trotting along, and
he almost stopped, and kept going.
Mr. DULLES. And he looked at you?
Mr. CALLAWAY. Yes, sir.
Mr. DULLES. Did he say anything?
Mr. CALLAWAY. Yes, sir; he said something, but I could not understand
it.
Mr. DULLES. You could not understand what he said?
Mr. CALLAWAY. That is right; yes, sir.
Mr. DULLES. And then did he resume his progress at a trot?
Mr. CALLAWAY. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Did you ever ask Searcy if he followed him?
Mr. CALLAWAY. He didn't follow him.
He said something about "Follow him, hell. That man will kill you. He
has a gun."
So instead of following him, he went back over and got behind the
office building.
Mr. DULLES. Did he see him at any time?
Mr. CALLAWAY. Yes; he saw him the same time I did; yes, sir. I never
could figure out why he didn't just follow that man. You could follow
50 yards behind him and keep a guy in sight. Chances are you wouldn't
get killed 50 yards away.
Mr. DULLES. Had you had previous military service?
Mr. CALLAWAY. Yes, sir; I was in the Marine Corps 6 years, World War
II, and during Korea.
Mr. DULLES. Did you ever tangle with the law in any way?
Mr. CALLAWAY. No, sir.
Mr. DULLES. What years were you in the Marine Corps?
Mr. CALLAWAY. 1942 through '45, and then '51 through '54.
Mr. DULLES. Were you in Korea?
Mr. CALLAWAY. No, sir; I didn't go to Korea. I was at Camp Pendleton as
a troop trainer.
Mr. DULLES. Off the record.
(Discussion off the record.)
Mr. DULLES. Back on the record.
Mr. BALL. I would like to offer to Exhibit 539, inclusive.
Mr. DULLES. Can you tell me what the numbers are?
Mr. BALL. 537, 538, and 539.
Mr. DULLES. Exhibits 537, 538, and 539 previously identified will now
be admitted in evidence.
(The documents heretofore marked for identification as Commission
Exhibits Nos. 537 through 539 were received in evidence.)
Mr. DULLES. Thank you very much. We appreciate your coming.
(Whereupon, at 12:40 p.m., the President's Commission recessed.)
_Monday, March 30, 1964_