Mr. BELIN. Officer Baker----

Mr. DULLES. I didn't get clearly in mind, I am trying to check up, as

to whether you saw Oswald maybe in the same costume later in the day.

Did you see Oswald later in the day of November 22d?

Mr. BAKER. Yes, sir; I did.

Mr. DULLES. Under what circumstances? Don't go into detail, I just want

to tie up these two situations.

Mr. BAKER. As I was in the homicide office there writing this, giving

this affidavit, I got hung in one of those little small offices

back there, while the Secret Service took Mr. Oswald in there

and questioned him and I couldn't get out by him while they were

questioning him, and I did get to see him at that time.

Mr. DULLES. You saw him for a moment at that time?

Mr. BAKER. Yes, sir.

Mr. BELIN. Officer Baker, you then left the second floor lunchroom with

Mr. Truly, is that correct?

Mr. BAKER. That is right, sir.

Mr. BELIN. How long did you stay in the lunchroom after Truly

identified this person as being an employee?

Mr. BAKER. Just momentarily. As he said, "Yes, he works here," I turned

and went on up the stairs.

Mr. BELIN. All right. Do you have any time estimate as to the period

of time that elapsed between the time that you first got to the head

of the stairs and saw some movement through that first doorway and the

time you left to go back up to the flight of stairs going to the third

floor?

Mr. BAKER. I would say approximately maybe 30 seconds, something like

that. It was a real quick interview, you know, and then I left.

Mr. BELIN. All right. As you left, did you notice whether or not the

man in the lunchroom did anything or started moving anywhere?

Mr. BAKER. No, sir. As I left he was still in the position that he was

whenever I was facing him.

Mr. BELIN. You then went where?

Mr. BAKER. I immediately turned and went on, started on, up the

stairways.

Mr. BELIN. All right. After going up the stairways, do you know what

numbered floor it was--I will ask you this, did you take the stairway

all the way to the top?

Mr. BAKER. No, sir; we caught that elevator, it seemed like we went up

either one or two floors, and Mr. Truly said "Let's take the elevator,

here it is."

Mr. BELIN. Did you take an east or west elevator?

Mr. BAKER. We took the east elevator.

Mr. BELIN. Now, the nearest elevator to you when you got off a flight

of stairs would have been the east or the west?

Mr. BAKER. The west.

Mr. BELIN. When you got off the flight of stairs Mr. Truly said, "Here

is an elevator," did the west elevator appear to be there?

Mr. BAKER. I didn't notice. I was looking around over the building at

the time he said, "Let's take the elevator" and I just followed him on

around.

Mr. BELIN. You went to an east elevator?

Mr. BAKER. That is right, sir.

Mr. BELIN. How far did it appear you rode up the elevator?

Mr. BAKER. It was a short ride. We just, either went one or two floors.

I couldn't remember. I was still looking at the floors, you know, as we

went up.

Mr. BELIN. As you rode up on the elevator, did you notice whether or

not you passed the elevator on the west side?

Mr. BAKER. No, sir; I didn't notice.

Mr. BELIN. Did you notice or hear anything to indicate that the

elevator on the west side might have been moving?

Mr. BAKER. No, sir.

Mr. BELIN. Did you take the east elevator as far as it would go?

Mr. BAKER. Yes, sir; we did.

Mr. BELIN. And then what did you do?

Mr. BAKER. We had to walk up another flight of stairs to get up to the

top floor.

Mr. BELIN. To get up to the roof?

Mr. BAKER. Yes, sir.

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