Mrs. PAINE. So I think I would have seen it.
Mr. DULLES. In your earlier testimony I think in reply to a question,
you indicated that you and Marina had only talked about this after the
assassination that afternoon.
Mrs. PAINE. That is right.
Mr. DULLES. If it is not out of order, I would like to get that into
the testimony maybe at this date what took place between them at that
time.
Mr. JENNER. On the 22d?
Mr. DULLES. Yes.
Mr. McCLOY. I think it is best to leave it at the 22d.
Mr. JENNER. I was going to take her chronologically.
Mr. DULLES. Just so you recall that.
Mr. McCLOY. But you can't recall having gone into the garage for any
purpose and having stepped over this thing or around it at any time
that you would associate with his return from New Orleans and Houston,
if he went to Houston?
Mrs. PAINE. My best recollection is that it was after, it was in
October, therefore.
Mr. McCLOY. But later than the 7th of October, you think?
Mrs. PAINE. Later than that, yes. That is the best I can do.
Mr. McCLOY. But well before the day of November 22?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. I think I have oriented myself without having the reporter
read and may I proceed, Mr. Chairman?
Mr. McCLOY. Surely.
Mr. JENNER. We have now reached the weekend of the 15th, 16th, and
17th, which is the weekend that Lee Harvey Oswald did not return to
your home.
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. You had just finished relating that Marina had told him not
to come that particular weekend?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. Now, was there an occasion during the course of that
weekend when a phone call was made to Lee Harvey Oswald. I direct your
attention particularly to Sunday evening, the 17th of November.
Mrs. PAINE. Looking back on it, I thought that there was a call made to
him by me on Monday the 18th, but I may be wrong about when it was made.
Mr. JENNER. Did Marina call him this Sunday evening, November 17?
Mrs. PAINE. No. There was only one call made at any one time to him, to
my knowledge.
Mr. JENNER. Do you recall an occasion when a call was made to him and
you girls were unable to reach him when that call was made?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes. I will describe the call, and there is a dispute over
what night it was.
Mr. JENNER. I would like your best recollection, first as to when it
occurred. Was it during the weekend that he did not return to your
home, the weekend immediately preceding the assassination day? Do you
recall that Marina was lonesome and she wished you to make a call to
Lee and you did so at her request?
Mrs. PAINE. I recall certainly we had talked with Lee, on the telephone
already that weekend because he called to say that he had been to
attempt to get a driver's license permit.
Mr. JENNER. Yes.
Mrs. PAINE. Whether he called that Saturday or whether he had called
Sunday, I am not certain. Indeed, I am not certain but what he had
called the very day, had already called and talked with Marina the very
day that I then, at her request, tried to reach him at the number he
had given me, with his number in my telephone book.
Junie was fooling with the telephone dial, and Marina said, "Let's call
papa" and asked me----
Mr. JENNER. Was this at night?
Mrs. PAINE. It was early evening, still light.
Mr. JENNER. Was it on a weekend?
Mrs. PAINE. I would have said it was Monday but I am not certain of
that.