Mr. JENNER. He was coming?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. But that you were not going to go to get him?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. And you left and went to the grocery store or market?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. When you returned, was Lee at your home?
Mrs. PAINE. He was already there, which surprised me greatly.
Mr. JENNER. Why did it surprise you?
Mrs. PAINE. Because I thought he would have to take a public bus to
Irving, they run very rarely if at all during the afternoon, and I
thought he would have considerable difficulty getting out. I thought it
would be at least supper time before he got there.
Mr. JENNER. How much time elapsed between the time you left and the
time you returned?
Mrs. PAINE. Shopping? Oh, I don't know, perhaps an hour, perhaps a
little less.
Representative FORD. Where did you go shopping?
Mrs. PAINE. The grocery store in the same parking lot where we
practiced.
Mr. JENNER. That was three blocks away?
Mrs. PAINE. It is a little more than that. These would be long blocks.
Mr. JENNER. Did any conversation ensue as to how he had, by what means
he had come from Dallas to Irving?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes. He then said that he had hitchhiked out, caught a ride
with someone who brought him straight to the door, a Negro man.
Mr. JENNER. To your door?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes. To whom he said that he had been away from his wife
and child and he was just now getting home, and the man kindly brought
him directly to the door.
Mr. JENNER. Where did this conversation take place?
Mrs. PAINE. In the home that afternoon.
Mr. JENNER. When you returned to your home, that was in the afternoon,
wasn't it?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. Where was Lee Harvey Oswald?
Mrs. PAINE. I don't recall.
Mr. JENNER. Was he inside the home or outside?
Mrs. PAINE. Inside, I believe.
Mr. JENNER. Did any conversation ensue as to where he had been in that
10-day interim?
Mrs. PAINE. Where he had been?
Mr. JENNER. Where he had been in the intervening 10 days?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes; he said to me that he had been in Houston and that he
hadn't been able to find work there and was now going to try in Dallas.
Mr. JENNER. Did he say anything about Philadelphia?
Mrs. PAINE. Nothing.
Mr. JENNER. From your testimony I gather he did not say anything about
Mexico?
Mrs. PAINE. No; he did not.
Mr. JENNER. Was Marina present when he stated to you that he had been
in Houston looking for work?
Mrs. PAINE. That is my recollection of it; yes.
Mr. JENNER. You never had any conversation with her up to the 23d or
22d of November on the subject of whether Lee had or had not been in
Mexico?
Mrs. PAINE. We never had such a conversation.
Mr. JENNER. Despite your having read that letter on the 10th of
November in which he stated that he had been?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes. Now there was no occasion in that letter that she may
have known that he went any more than there was certain indication to
my mind that this was true and not false. Had I looked at the peso,
this would have been the only occasion that she knew.
Mr. JENNER. But the fact is, apart from your rationalization now there
was no conversation on that subject?
Mrs. PAINE. That is right.
Mr. JENNER. How long did he remain in your home?