CHAPTER XXXIV

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THE LIFE OF THE RT. HON.

SIR CHARLES W. DILKE

BART., M.P.

BEGUN BY STEPHEN GWYNN, M.P.

COMPLETED AND EDITED BY

GERTRUDE M. TUCKWELL

LITERARY EXECUTRIX OF SIR CHARLES DILKE

WITH PORTRAITS AND ILLUSTRATIONS

IN TWO VOLUMES

VOL. II.

CONTENTS OF VOL. II.

CHAPTER

XXXIV. HOME AFFAIRS (OCTOBER, 1883, TO DECEMBER, 1884)

XXXV. EGYPT (1884)

XXXVI. FRANCHISE AND REDISTRIBUTION (JULY TO DECEMBER, 1884)

XXXVII. FOREIGN AFFAIRS IN 1884

XXXVIII. DIVIDED COUNSELS (JANUARY AND FEBRUARY, 1885)

XXXIX. THE FALL OF KHARTOUM AND THE PENJDEH INCIDENT

XL. REDISTRIBUTION: COERCION AND DEVOLUTION (1885)

XLI. FALL OF ADMINISTRATION (JUNE TO JULY, 1885)

XLII. OUT OF OFFICE (JULY, 1885)

XLIII. THE TURNING-POINT (JULY, 1885, TO JULY, 1886)

XLIV. THE RADICAL PROGRAMME _VERSUS_ HOME RULE (JULY TO DECEMBER, 1885)

XLV. BEGINNING OF THE HOME RULE SPLIT (DECEMBER, 1885, TO FEBRUARY,

1886)

XLVI. THE FIRST HOME RULE BILL (FEBRUARY TO JULY, 1886)

XLVII. LADY DILKE--76, SLOANE STREET

XLVIII. FOREIGN POLICY

XLIX. PUBLIC LIFE AND RETURN TO PARLIAMENT (1886-1894)

L. INDIA AND FRANCE--RHODES AND BISMARCK (1886-1892)

LI. PERSONAL LIFE--IN OPPOSITION (1895-1904)

LII. LABOUR (1870-1911)

LIII. WORK FOR NATIVE RACES (1870-1911)

LIV. THE BRITISH ARMY

LV. IMPERIAL DEFENCE

LVI. ARMY AND NAVY IN PARLIAMENT

LVII. DEATH OF LADY DILKE--PARLIAMENT OF 1905

LVIII. FOREIGN AFFAIRS (1890-1910)

LIX. THE LAST YEARS

LX. LITERARY WORK AND INTERESTS

LXI. TABLE TALK

INDEX

LIST OF ILLUSTRATIONS TO VOL. II

SIR CHARLES W. DILKE IN THE YEAR 1908

From a drawing by W. Strang.

MRS. MARK PATTISON

From a photograph taken about 1878.

SIR THOMAS WENTWORTH, 1ST BARON WENTWORTH (DIED

MARCH 3RD, 1550-51)

From a painting ascribed to Theodore Bernardi.

BISMARCK

From a photograph given by him to Sir Charles W. Dilke.

SIR CHARLES W. DILKE ROWING

From a photograph reproduced by permission of the _Daily Mirror_.

DOCKETT EDDY

From photographs.

PYRFORD ROUGH

From photographs.

LADY DILKE IN THE YEAR 1903

From a photograph by Thomson.

THE LIFE OF SIR CHARLES DILKE

CHAPTER XXXIV

HOME AFFAIRS

OCTOBER, 1883-DECEMBER, 1884

I.

The interval between the Sessions of 1883 and 1884 was critical for the

question of electoral reform which interested Liberals beyond all other

questions, but involved the risk of bringing dissensions in the Cabinet

to the point of open rupture. As the months went by, Mr. Chamberlain and

Lord Hartington used less and less concealment of their differences,

while it was well known to all the Cabinet that the alliance between

Chamberlain and Dilke was complete and unconditional. Whoever broke with

Chamberlain broke with Dilke. Fortunately a certain bond of personal

sympathy, in spite of divergent views, existed between Lord Hartington

and Sir Charles Dilke, and this bond largely helped to hold Mr.

Gladstone's Government together.

In the negotiations which followed between the leaders of the two great

Parties, Sir Charles Dilke was able to show the full measure of his

value to the State. It was of first-rate importance that the Liberal

Party should possess at that moment a representative with whom Lord

Salisbury found it congenial to treat, and whom the most advanced

Liberals trusted unreservedly to treat with Lord Salisbury.

The same confidence could hardly have been given by them to Lord

Hartington, who held that "equalization of the franchise was pressing

mainly on account of the pledges that had been given, and not much for

any other reason." [Footnote: Letter to Mr. Gladstone of October 24th,

1883, quoted by Mr. Bernard Holland in his _Life of the Duke of

Devonshire_, vol. i., p. 395.] Most Liberals took a very different view

of the need for this reform. Further, Lord Hartington held that

franchise and redistribution should be treated simultaneously, and he

was unwilling to extend the franchise in Ireland.

At a Cabinet on October 25th, 1883, the question of simultaneous or

separate treatment of the problems had been settled. Mr. Gladstone, says

Sir Charles, 'made a speech which meant franchise first and the rest

nowhere.' On the Irish question, Sir Charles was instructed to get

accurate statistics as to the effects of equalizing the franchise

between boroughs and counties, and 'on Friday, November 16th,' he notes,

'I wrote to Chamberlain: "I have some awful figures for poor Hartington

to swallow--700,000 county householders in the Irish counties."' Lord

Hartington still stuck to his point of linking redistribution and

franchise.

But on November 22nd,

'Mr. Gladstone read a long and admirable memorandum in favour of the

views held by him, by Chamberlain, and by me, as to franchise and

redistribution--that is, franchise first, with a promise of

redistribution but no Bill; and Hartington received no support after

this from any members of the Cabinet.'

There were, however, matters in which Lord Hartington's Conservative

tendencies found an ally in the Prime Minister. On November 28th, 1883,

at the Committee of the Cabinet on Local Government,

'Chamberlain noted: "Mr. Gladstone hesitates to disfranchise the

freeholders in boroughs--persons voting as householders in boroughs

and as freeholders in the counties in which the boroughs are

constituted. I am in favour of one man one vote, and told him so."

Our not getting one man one vote was entirely Mr. Gladstone's fault,

for the Cabinet expected and would have taken it, Hartington alone

opposing, as he opposed everything all through.'

The question of widening the franchise in Ireland was still unsettled,

and Mr. Chamberlain and Lord Hartington both made allusion to it in

public speeches at this moment. The speeches, apart from their marked

difference in general tone, were on this point in flat contradiction to

each other, and on December 2nd Lord Hartington wrote to Mr. Gladstone

with a threat of resignation. On that day he delivered at Accrington a

long eulogy of the Whigs, who had 'formed a connecting link between the

advanced party and those classes which, possessing property, powers, and

influence, are naturally averse to change.' The Whigs it was, he

contended, who had by their guidance and their action reduced changes in

the direction of popular reform to the 'calm and peaceful process of

constitutional acts.'

'At this moment there was a conflict raging between Chamberlain and

Hartington, and in their autumn speeches each of them pretty plainly

attacked the other's policy. Chamberlain wrote to me: "Why does

Hartington think _aloud_ when he thinks one thing and is going to do

the other? And why does he snub the Caucus when he has made up his

mind to do exactly what they want? If he cannot learn to be a little

more diplomatic, he will make a devil of a rum leader!" A little

later Chamberlain gave me "passages from a speech which _ought_ to

be delivered: 'Yes, gentlemen, I entirely agree with Lord

Hartington. It is the business and duty of Radicals to lead great

popular movements, and if they are fortunate enough to kindle the

fire of national enthusiasm and to stir the hearts of the people,

then it will be the high prerogative of the great Whig noble who has

been waiting round the corner to direct and guide and moderate the

movement which he has done all in his power to prevent and

discourage.'"

'The storm between Hartington and Chamberlain having broken out

again, Chamberlain wrote to me on December 5th, enclosing a letter

of reproof from Mr. Gladstone, and saying: "I replied casuistically

that I would endeavour to exclude from my speeches the slightest

reference to Hartington, but that he was really too trying. I

reminded Mr. G. that I had asked if I were free to argue the

question, and that he had said: Yes--no one taking exception." In

the following week Chamberlain came to town and dined with me,

and we discussed the matter. Although Mr. Gladstone had blown

Chamberlain up, he was really much more angry with Hartington.'

It appears from the _Life of the Duke of Devonshire_ that Mr. Gladstone

continued through December his attempts to mediate. [Footnote: See _Life

of the Duke of Devonshire_, by Mr. Bernard Holland, vol. i, p. 398 _et

seq_.] The matter is thus related by Sir Charles, though not from first-

hand knowledge, since he went to Toulon in the middle of December, and

stayed there till January 8th, 1884:

'During my absence I had missed one Cabinet, the first that I ever

missed, and perhaps the only one. It was held suddenly on January

3rd, and I could not arrive in time. Mr. Gladstone had come up from

Hawarden under the impression that Hartington was going to resign,

because we would not produce a redistribution scheme along with

franchise. On the morning of the 3rd, however, he received a letter

in which Hartington gave way on the understanding that Mr. Gladstone

would state the general heads of his redistribution scheme. The

subject was not named at the Cabinet of the 3rd, which dealt with

Egypt only. But the Cabinet adjourned to the 4th, and on January 4th

discussed South Africa, and also ... received a statement from Mr.

Gladstone as to his intention to state the heads of our

redistribution scheme in "very general terms." On the 10th I noted:

"The Cabinets have resulted in peace between Lord Hartington and Mr.

Gladstone, but the Reform Bill will be less complete than I had

hoped." "Mr. Gladstone calmed Hartington by promising not to run

away from us after franchise and before redistribution, which was

what Hartington feared he meant to do."'

Discussion upon the detail of the Bill was resumed, and on January 23rd,

1884,

'the Chancellor (Lord Selborne), Hartington, Kimberley, and Dodson,

supported by Mr. Gladstone, forced, against Harcourt, Chamberlain,

and myself, a decision not to attach any condition of residence to

the property vote.'

'On January 28th there was a meeting of the Committee of the Cabinet

on the Franchise Bill in Mr. Gladstone's room. Chamberlain was

anxious to "make Hartington go out on franchise." I asked him how he

thought it was to be done, and he replied: "If he is restive now,

raise the question of Mr. Gladstone's statement on redistribution,

and oppose all limitations in that statement"; and he added that Mr.

Gladstone had only agreed to make the statement unwillingly to quiet

Hartington, and that if Hartington were not quieted Mr. Gladstone

would go back about it. Chamberlain and I on this occasion tried to

make the Franchise Bill more Radical, but failed, Mr. Gladstone

opposing us on old-fashioned grounds.'

'Chamberlain came to me' (on April 26th) 'about a plan which Mr.

Gladstone was to broach at the next Cabinet, for putting off the

operation of the Franchise Act until January 1st, '86, in order to

give time for redistribution to be dealt with. We decided to oppose

it, on the ground that it would not improbably lead to our being

forced into holding an election on the old franchise.'

At the beginning of the Session Sir Charles helped on the general policy

of Radicalism by one of his many minor electoral reforms. This was a

Bill to extend over the United Kingdom the right of keeping the poll

open till eight o'clock at night, which he had secured as a privilege

for Londoners in 1878. He notes that on February 11th he 'fought with

Tory obstructives as to hours of polling, and won'; but the violent

resistance which was offered at first did not continue, and the Bill

passed quietly in July, after time had been given to discuss it in the

constituencies.

'On this day (July 22nd) I had a long and curious conversation with

Healy as to Irish redistribution and as to the hours of poll in

counties, with regard to which he was against extension, but said

that he was forced to support it in public. He told me that his

private opinion was that the Land Act had quieted Ireland.'

The 'Representation of the People' Bill, as the franchise measure was

called, was introduced on February 28th, 1884, and made steady progress,

Liberals finding their task facilitated by the difficulties of their

opponents.

'On May 7th I wrote to Chamberlain to say that I had to speak at a

house dinner of the Devonshire Club that night, and to ask him if

there was anything he wanted said, to which he replied: "Note

Randolph Churchill's letter to Salisbury with reference to the

Conservative Caucus, and the vindication of the Birmingham one." It

was impossible not to notice this important letter, which

revolutionized politics for some time.'

'_May 14th_.--After the Cabinet I was informed by Chamberlain that a

week earlier, on Wednesday, May 7th, Randolph Churchill had sent to

him to know whether, if he broke with the Conservatives, the

Birmingham Liberals would support him as an independent candidate.'

Sir Charles's letter to his agent at this time sums up the political

position:

'The Tory game is to delay the franchise until they have upset us

upon Egypt, before the Franchise Bill has reached the Lords.... Our

side will be in a humour to treat as traitors any who do not insist

that the one Bill and nothing else shall be had in view--in face of

the tremendous struggle impending in the Lords.'

'On _May 13th_ I had received a letter from Mr. Gladstone in answer

to one from me in a matter which afterwards became important, and

but for Chamberlain's strong stand would have forced me to leave the

Government. I had so strong an opinion in favour of woman's suffrage

that I could not undertake to vote against it, even when proposed as

an amendment to a great Government Bill.'

Sir Charles had written as follows:

'ANTIBES,

'_Easter Eve_, '84.

'I had thought till lately that the Woman's Suffrage division in

Committee on the Franchise Bill would have been so hollow that my

absence from it would not have mattered; but as I find that

Grosvenor thinks that it will not be hollow, it becomes my duty to

write to you about it. I myself think Grosvenor wrong; the woman's

suffrage people claim some 250 "friends," but this they do by

counting all who, having voted with them once, have abstained from

voting for many years, and who are really foes. The division can

only be a close one if the Tory party as a body support the view

which is Northcote's, I believe, and was Disraeli's, but many of the

leaders would be bitterly opposed to such a course. Mr. Disraeli

left the woman's suffrage amendment an open question on his own

Reform Bill, and forbade the Government Whips to tell against the

amendment, but the mass of the Tory party voted in the majority. On

this next occasion there will be a larger Liberal vote against the

change than there was last year, and I do not believe that there

will be a larger Tory vote in its favour. But, supposing that I am

wrong and Grosvenor right, I should feel no difficulty in voting

against the amendment on the grounds of tactics which would be

stated, provided that Fawcett and Courtney, who are the only other

thick-and-thin supporters of woman's suffrage in the Government,

voted also, but I cannot vote if they abstain. Under these

circumstances what had I better do?'

Mr. Gladstone wrote back on May 11th:

'The question as to the votes of members of the Government on

woman's suffrage is beyond me, and I have always intended to ask the

Cabinet, and (like the Gordon rescue) at the proper time. The

distinction appears to me as clear as possible between supporting a

thing in its right place and forcing it into its wrong place. To

nail on to the extension of the franchise, founded upon principles

already known and in use, a vast social question, which is surely

entitled to be considered as such, appears to me in principle very

doubtful. When to this is added the admirable pretext--nay, the fair

argument--it would give to the House of Lords for "putting off" the

Bill, I cannot see the ground for hesitation. But I quite understand

what (I believe) is your view, that there should be one rule for all

the members of the Government.'

'This was an important letter. The words "(like the Gordon rescue)

at the proper time" seem to show that Mr. Gladstone had already made

up his mind to send an expedition to Khartoum, although he would not

say so. The body of the letter proved that Mr. Gladstone had a very

strong opinion against me on the main point, and the consultation of

the Cabinet (which was dead against woman suffrage), and the one

rule for all members of the Government, meant that he intended to

force my vote by a Cabinet resolution, and, killing two birds with

one stone, to attack at the same time Fawcett, who had walked out on

several questions, and announced his intention of walking out on

others.

'By May 22nd I had finally made up my mind that I could not vote

against the woman franchise amendment--even as a mere matter of

tactics and deference to others--if Courtney and Fawcett went out on

the matter. I could not speak to them about it because of the

"Cabinet secret" doctrine. Childers had been directed by the Cabinet

to sound Courtney, because he was Courtney's official superior in

the Treasury. Childers was to offer Courtney that if he would vote

against the amendment he should be allowed to speak for woman

franchise on the merits, and that none of its opponents in the

Cabinet (that is, all except myself) should speak against it on the

merits. I noted: "On the whole I think that we shall walk out, and

not be turned out for so doing." I again explained my position to

Mr. Gladstone.... I felt that the majority of those voting for woman

franchise on this occasion would be Tories, voting for party

reasons, and in order to upset the Bill. I was therefore unwilling

to go out on this occasion, but thought I could not do otherwise

than make common cause with Courtney. On the merits of woman

franchise I had and have a strong opinion. I always thought the

refusal of it contrary to the public interest. The refusal of the

franchise also affects the whole position of women most

unfavourably.' [Footnote: Mrs. Fawcett wrote thanking him 'in the

name of the friends of Women's Suffrage. Your being a member of the

Cabinet made your position in the matter one of special difficulty;

but I do assure you that our gratitude is real and unfeigned.']

On May 24th Sir Charles told the Cabinet what 'I had told Mr. Gladstone

in a letter which I had written to him on Easter Eve, and renewed on the

occasion when he made the reply which has been quoted above.'

When the amendment was reached, Dilke, with Fawcett and Courtney,

abstained. This led to serious trouble. Sir Charles wrote on June 12th

in his Diary:

'Hartington is very angry with me for not voting, and wants me

turned out for it. He has to vote every day for things which he

strongly disapproves, and this makes the position difficult. He says

that my position was wholly different from that of Fawcett and

Courtney, because I was a party to the decision of the Cabinet, and

that custom binds the minority in the collective decision of Her

Majesty's servants. This is undoubtedly the accepted theory. Poor

Hibbert was made to vote. [Footnote: Sir John Tomlinson Hibbert (d.

1908), at this time Financial Secretary to the Treasury, was an able

administrator, and held office in Mr. Gladstone's four

administrations. He assisted materially in the passing of the

Execution within Gaols Act, Married Women's Property Act, and Clergy

Disabilities Act, and was keenly interested in the reform of the

Poor Law.] I fear the Cabinet put the yoke, not of political

necessity, but of their personal prejudice against woman suffrage,

on the necks of their followers.'

The matter came up at a Cabinet on June 14th, and was made worse because

a letter from Lord Hartington, 'offensive in tone,' had been circulated

by accident. However, Mr. Gladstone issued a minute about my walking out

on woman's suffrage, which concluded by a proposal, if his colleagues

concurred, to request me to remain in the Government. Thus ended a

personal crisis which, to use the French phrase, had been 'open' since

my letter to Mr. Gladstone dated 'Antibes, Easter Eve.'

'Chamberlain wrote to me: "It is settled"; and I wrote back: "It is

settled. I would not have asked you to stand by me, as I have no

constitutional case, and your conduct in so doing could not be

defended. I always count on your friendship, but this would have

been too much." He replied: "We are both right. You could not ask

me, but if you had been requested to resign I should have gone too."

Chamberlain had previously informed the Cabinet that, though he

differed from me about woman's suffrage, and regretted the course

that I had felt myself obliged to take, he intended to stand by me

"to the fullest extent."' [Footnote: The further negotiations with

regard to Franchise and Redistribution in 1884, and the 'compact'

which ended them, are dealt with in Chapter XXXVI., infra, pp.

63-79.]

II.

While the great measure of the Session went steadily through its stages,

various other questions were also occupying the Cabinet. The search for

a new Speaker in succession to Sir Henry Brand, who had declared at the

beginning of 1883 his unwillingness to retain office beyond that

Session, was one, and not the least important, of these questions. Sir

Henry James was first mentioned, and he refused.

'November, 1883. Some had thought of putting up Dodson, but the

Tories had announced that they should run Ridley in opposition to

him. There was also a difficulty about filling Dodson's place.

Trevelyan was the only man who could be put into the Cabinet without

causing the resignation of Courtney and Fawcett, and Mr. Gladstone

was still in the humour which he had developed at the time of the

offer of the Chief Secretaryship to me, and declared that he would

not have the Chief Secretary in the Cabinet, the Viceroy being in

it, for this would be to have two Kings of Brentford.'

On November 10th 'Childers seemed the favourite for Speakership,' but on

the 12th it was decided that Herschell, Goschen, Arthur Peel, and

Campbell-Bannerman, were to be offered the Speakership--in that order.

It was known that Herschell would refuse, it was thought that Goschen

would refuse on the ground of sight, and Peel on the ground of health,

and it was intended that Campbell-Bannerman should have it. Herschell

did refuse, but Goschen accepted, and had to be shown by his doctor that

he could not see members across the House, that he would be capable of

confusing Healy with Parnell.... Peel accepted, and in spite of his bad

health took it, and has kept it till this day (1891).'

There was also continuous discussion behind the scenes as to the two

important measures of local government reform--for London and for the

country.

'By November 8th, 1883, I had succeeded in bringing Harcourt round

on the London police matter ... to let the City keep their police,

and then went to Mr. Gladstone.... After twelve o'clock at night

Harcourt joined us, and it was agreed to put both London and local

government in the Queen's Speech for 1884.'

Dilke spent much work upon the London Government Bill with Harcourt in

January of that year; but the Bill, having passed its second reading,

was not further proceeded with, owing to House of Commons difficulties.

Sir Charles gives the true reason in a letter to his agent:

'One unfortunate thing about the London Bill is that no one in the

House cares about it except Dilke, Firth, and the Prime Minister,

and no one outside the House except the Liberal electors of Chelsea.

This is the private hidden opinion of Harcourt and of the

Metropolitan Liberal members except Firth. I am personally so strong

for the Bill that I have not at any time admitted this to Harcourt,

and I have only hinted it to Firth....'

When Sir William Harcourt's Bill collapsed, Dilke attempted a minor

improvement for the Metropolis by framing a City Guilds Bill, which he

described to Mr. Gladstone as following the scheme of the Bills by which

the Universities had been reformed. But the Chancellor, Lord Selborne,

fought strongly against this proposal: and nothing came of it.

The great scheme for reforming Local Government in England and Wales was

meanwhile being considered by the Committee to which it had been

referred. Besides Sir Charles Dilke, who naturally acted as Chairman,

the Committee consisted of Mr. Chamberlain, Lord Kimberley, Mr.

Childers, Lord Carlingford, and Mr. Dodson (who were members of the

Cabinet), and Lord Edmond Fitzmaurice. With them were Sir Henry Thring,

the celebrated Parliamentary draughtsman, and Mr. Hugh Owen, the

Permanent Secretary of the Local Government Board. The task of obtaining

agreement, and even sometimes of maintaining order, in a Committee

composed of persons representing such a variety of opinion, was no easy

one, and it tested to the full the tact and ingenuity of the Chairman.

Mr. Dodson, Sir Charles Dilke's immediate predecessor at the Local

Government Board, and Lord Carlingford represented the views which had

hitherto prevailed in favour of piecemeal and gradual reform. Mr.

Chamberlain, Lord Kimberley, and Lord Edmond Fitzmaurice were, on the

contrary, supporters of the large Bill which the Chairman had prepared;

while Mr. Childers, as Chancellor of the Exchequer, was there mainly to

keep a vigilant watch on the local authorities, who were suspected, and

not without reason, of desiring to treat the Treasury as a sort of

"milch cow," a description which Mr. Gladstone had recently made current

in a debate in the House of Commons, Sir Henry Thring was no mere

draughtsman. He had had an immense experience of official life, had

known every man of public importance over a long period of years, and

had very determined views on most subjects, which he never hesitated to

express in clear-cut language and without respect of persons. Mr. Lowe,

it was asserted, had once observed at a Cabinet just before Thring

entered the room: 'I think before he arrives we had better carry a

preliminary resolution that we are all d----d fools.' As it also

happened, Local Government was a subject on which Sir Henry Thring, and

not without reason, prided himself as an expert, and the Committee over

which Sir Charles Dilke presided consequently had Sir Henry Thring's

views conveyed to them in unmistakable terms. One of his special objects

of hostility was the Poor Law Union area, which he hoped ultimately to

destroy. On the other hand, Mr. Hugh Owen, like nearly all the Local

Government Board officials of that time, regarded the Poor Law and

everything connected with it as sacred. The controversies were

frequently fierce, and on one occasion a serious crisis almost arose

owing to Lord Kimberley asking to be informed if Sir Henry Thring was

preparing a Bill of his own or was acting on his instructions.

The Bill of 1884 contained almost everything now to be found within the

corners of the two great measures of 1888 and 1894, which, the one

passed by a Conservative, the other by a Liberal Government, entirely

revolutionized the Local Government of England. It was, however, decided

to have no Aldermen, but a few ex-officio seats were created on the

County Council. Otherwise direct election was the method chosen for all

the new Councils. The administration of the Poor Law was kept within the

purview of the Bill, after a long controversy as to the method of

electing the representatives of urban parishes on the local Poor Law

authority, when such an authority included both a borough and a rural

district; and the limit of population that was to entitle a borough to a

complete independence from the county authority was raised from the

figure originally proposed of 20,000 to 100,000 and upwards.

It had been part of Sir Charles Dilke's plan to include education within

the framework of the Bill, making the Borough and District Councils the

local education authority, with a limited superior jurisdiction in the

County Council. But it was found that almost insurmountable difficulties

would arise in adding so immense a proposal to an already large measure,

and it had to be abandoned.

Mr. Gladstone expressed a decided view on one portion of the Bill only.

He gave his strongest support to the proposal that the price of any

increased contributions in the shape of Treasury grants should be the

complete reform of the conflict of areas and jurisdictions, which added

so much to the difficulties and the cost of local administration.

[Footnote: In a speech made at Halifax on October 13th, 1885, which

occupies nearly the whole of a page of the _Times_, Sir Charles Dilke,

after the fall of the Government, gave a full account of the proposed

measure.]

The question of female councillors inevitably found its way into the

discussions, and it was decided in their favour, notwithstanding much

divergence of opinion.

'"I am sorry," Childers wrote, "about female councillors, but I

suppose I am in a minority, and that we shall soon have women M.P.'s

and Cabinet Ministers." This shows that we had decided to clear up

the doubt as to the possibility of women serving as councillors, and

distinctly to give them the opportunity of so doing. When Ritchie

afterwards introduced portions of my Bill, he left this doubtful,

and the Lady Sandhurst decision was the result.' [Footnote: See for

"Lady Sandhurst decision," infra, p. 17.]

Sir Charles differed from other members of the Committee in the desire

to make the county and not the Local Government Board the sole appellate

authority from the district. 'I would, indeed,' he says, 'have gone

farther, had I been able to convince my colleagues, and have set up an

elective Local Government Board for England.'

Owing to the Parliamentary position, progress with any large measures of

reform was, however, difficult even in the preliminary stages; and the

road seemed to get more encumbered every day, for the period now under

review indicates the high-water mark of Parliamentary obstruction in the

skilled hands of the Irish Party and Lord Randolph Churchill, who

successfully defied the feeble reforms of procedure of 1882. So it came

about that early in 1884 Sir Charles was found rather mournfully writing

to Mr. Gladstone:

'We produced to-day our last draft of the Local Government Bill, and

had our funeral meeting over it, I fear. I wish to tell you with

what spirit and skill Edmond Fitzmaurice has gone into the matter.

He is the only man I know who is fit to be President of this Board.'

In the autumn of 1883 Sir Charles made what was rare with him, a kind of

oratorical progress. He spoke at Glasgow, at Greenock, and lastly at

Paisley, where he received the freedom of the burgh for his services

connected with the commercial negotiations. His speech at Paisley

naturally dealt with commercial policy, and drew an admiring letter from

Sir Robert Morier, who was then just bringing to a head the offer of a

commercial treaty with Spain. The Cabinet, however, had been much

inclined to issue a general declaration on the subject,

'Mr. Gladstone and Lord Granville being against all commercial

treaties, I for good ones and against bad ones, and Chamberlain for

punishing Italy for her conduct to us.' [Footnote: 'March 5th,

1883.--We turned to Tariff Treaties: Lord Granville and Mr.

Gladstone wishing for a general and abstract declaration against

them, and I, with support of Childers, urging most strongly the

other view. The proposed declaration was a gratuitous piece of

folly, for we were not called on to say anything at all.']

When the proposed treaty with Spain, and the changes in duties which it

would involve, were before the Cabinet on November 10th,

'I am afraid I played upon Mr. Gladstone's favourite weakness (next

to praise of Montenegro)--namely, abuse of the Customs, a department

for the routine of which he always had a perfect loathing.'

III.

Queen Victoria's demand for investigation into the housing of the poor

[Footnote: See Vol. I., p. 509.] had led to prompt administrative

action, planned by Sir Charles before he left for his Christmas holiday.

'While I was at Toulon there were issued from the Local Government

Board the circulars on the Housing of the Working Class, which I had

prepared before leaving London.... One circular, December 29th, 1883

... called on the Vestries to make use of the powers which they

possessed for regulating the condition of houses let in lodgings.

Another, December 30th ... called attention to their powers under

the Sanitary Acts, and under the Artisans and Labourers' Dwellings

Acts; and one of the same date to a similar effect went to all urban

sanitary districts throughout the country, while a further circular

with digests of the laws was sent out on January 7th, 1884. This

action was afterwards repeated by Chamberlain and others, and taken

for new, and again by Walter Long.'

But, naturally, the first man to do it stirred up a hornets' nest.

_Punch_ of the first week in January, 1884, derides the 'Bitter Cry of

Bumbledom' against Dilke and Mr. Hugh Owen, [Footnote: Years after Sir

Hugh Owen, G.C.B., wrote to Dilke: 'I shall always remember that I owed

my first step in the Order of the Bath to you.'] Secretary to the Local

Government Board:

'_Us_ to blame? That's a capital notion! Drat them and their

"statutes" and "digests"!

"Convenience of reference." Ah! that is one of their imperent sly

jests.

Removal of Noosances? Yah! If we started on _that_ lay perniskers

There is more than a few in the Westries 'ud feel suthin' singein'

their wiskers,

Or BUMBLE'S a Dutchman. Their Circ'lar--it's mighty obliging--defines

'em,

The Noosances namely; I wonder if parties _read_ Circ'lars as signs

'em,

If so, Local Government Boarders must be most oncommonly knowin',

And I'd like to 'eave bricks at that DILKE and his long-winded

myrmidon OWEN.

The public's got Slums on the brain, and with sanitry bunkum's have

busted.

_We_ make a more wigorous use of the powers with which we're

entrusted!

Wy, if we are at it all day with their drains, ashpits, roofs, walls,

and windies,

Wot time shall we 'ave for our feeds and our little porochial

shindies!

And all for the 'labouring classes'--the greediest, ongratefullest

beggars.

I tell you these Radical lot and their rubbishy littery eggers,

Who talk of neglected old brooms, and would 'ave _us_ turn to at their

handles,

Are Noosances wus than bad smells and the rest o' their sanitry

"scandals."'

Sir Charles's main object in local government was to decentralize, and

he sought to move in this direction by stimulating the exercise of

existing powers and the habit of responsibility in local popularly

elected bodies. But inquiry was also necessary.

'On February 8th, 1884, it had been decided to appoint a Royal

Commission on the Housing of the Working Classes, and Mr. Gladstone

had expressed his wish that I should be chairman of the Commission,

on which the Prince of Wales desired to serve.'

'On the 9th it was settled that Bodley, my secretary, should be

secretary to the Royal Commission. I immediately wrote to Manning to

ask him to serve, and he consented on February 12th.'

Lord Salisbury's name lent another distinction to the list, which was

completed by February 16th. [Footnote: In addition to the Prince, the

Cardinal, and Lord Salisbury, Dilke's Commission consisted of Lord

Brownlow, Lord Carrington, Mr. Goschen, Sir Richard Cross, the Bishop of

Bedford (Dr. Walsham How), Mr. E. Lyulph Stanley, Mr. McCullagh Torrens,

Mr. Broadhurst, Mr. Jesse Collings, Mr. George Godwin, and Mr. Samuel

Morley. To these were added later Mr. Dwyer Gray and Sir George

Harrison, for Ireland and Scotland respectively.]

'A very difficult question arose about his precedence. I referred it

to the Prince of Wales, who said that he thought Manning ought to

take precedence, as a Prince, after Princes of the Blood, and before

Lord Salisbury.'

The nice question was referred to Lord Salisbury and to many other

authorities, and finally to Lord Sydney, who wrote, from the Board of

Green Cloth, 'that in 1849, at the Queen's Levee at Dublin Castle, the

Roman Catholic Primate followed the Protestant Archbishop, but he was

not a Cardinal. _A fortiori_ I presume a Cardinal as a Prince of the

Holy Roman Empire would have precedence next to the Prince of Wales. It

showed, however, extraordinary ignorance on the part of the Lord Steward

to suppose that the Holy Roman Empire and the Papal Court were the same

thing.' [Footnote: The story of how the question of precedence was

settled in Manning's favour is given in detail in Mr. Bodley's _Cardinal

Manning, and Other Essays_ (1912).]

'It was on February 12th that I received Sir Henry Ponsonby's letter

announcing the approval of the Queen to the Prince serving on the

Commission as an ordinary member under my chairmanship, and the

Prince of Wales expressed his pleasure at the Queen's approval.'

'On February 22nd the members of the Cabinet present (at a meeting

at the Foreign Office) discussed my proposal to put Miss Octavia

Hill on my Royal Commission, no woman having ever sat on one; and

Harcourt having refused to sign the Commission if it contained a

woman's name, Mr. Gladstone, Kimberley, and Northbrook sided with

me, and Hartington with Harcourt. Lord Granville said that he was

with me on the principle, but against me on the person. After this

Mr. Gladstone went round, and said that the decision of the Cabinet

was against me. Asquith put several women on a Royal Commission a

few years later, but refused them the precedence to which they were

entitled, and gave every male member precedence before them.'

Mr. Lyulph Stanley was included to represent his sister, Miss Maude

Stanley, whom Sir Charles Dilke had wished to appoint.

Later in the year Sir Charles successfully asserted the principle for

which he was contending, by putting women on the Metropolitan Asylums

Board. Lady Ducie had the honour of the first invitation to serve, and

Sir Charles afterwards added Miss Maude Stanley and others. The question

of qualification was discussed, only to be set aside. The law officers

'knew the women would be knocked off if anyone raised the question,

and in Lady Sandhurst's case this was afterwards made clear; but no

one did raise it against my nominees, and they stayed on for life.'

'March 7th.--I had now had several interviews with Lord Salisbury

and the Prince of Wales about the Royal Commission, and the first

meeting of the Commission itself was held on March 5th.... We really

began our work on March 14th. My work was heavy at this time, with

sittings of the Commission twice a week, for which I had to prepare,

as I did all the examination in chief of the witnesses, and, indeed,

found them all and corresponded with them in advance.'

'The Commission was dull, although it produced a certain amount of

valuable evidence, and almost the only amusing incident which

occurred in the course of many months was Lord Salisbury making a

rather wild suggestion, when Broadhurst put down his pen, and,

looking up in a pause, said with an astonished air, "Why, that is

Socialism!" at which there was a loud laugh all round.'

'I wrote to Lord Salisbury on May 7th to ask him for his suggestions

as to what I called "remedies" to be proposed by our Commission, as

I had already made my own list, and wished from this time forward to

examine each witness on the same heads, with a view to collecting a

body of evidence for the Report, intended to lead to recommendation

and legislation upon these particular points....'

Some of Lord Salisbury's suggestions were 'valuable, and still throw

much light on his temporary Radicalism, which unfortunately soon wore

off.'

'It is clear that on May 9th, 1884, he was contemplating throwing

the rates upon the land, and making a long step towards leasehold

enfranchisement. Lord Salisbury's proposal on this last head was

virtually one for "judicial rents," as far as principle went, and

destructive of the old view of the rights of holders of landed

property--although, perhaps, not one carrying much advantage to

anybody!'

The Report of the Commission proposed the rating of vacant land, but

before it was drafted Lord Salisbury condemned the proposal in a

memorandum attached to the Report, which Mr. Goschen supported by

another independent minute.

Sir Charles sent also a request for the suggestion of 'remedies' to

Cardinal Manning, who, says a scribbled note, 'is our only

revolutionary!'

'On Friday, May 16th, at the Commission the Cardinal handed me his

list of suggestions, which were not only revolutionary, but ill-

considered, and I have to note how curiously impracticable a

schemer, given to the wildest plans, this great ecclesiastic showed

himself. He suggested the removal out of London, not only of prisons

and infirmaries (which no doubt are under the control of public

authorities), but also of breweries, ironworks, and all factories

not needed for daily or home work, as a means of giving us areas for

housing the working class, suggestions the value or practicability

of which I need hardly discuss.'

'On May 18th, I having proposed to add to the Royal Commission a

member for Ireland and a member for Scotland before we began to take

the Scotch and Irish evidence, and having proposed Gray, the

Nationalist member and proprietor of the _Freeman's Journal_, who

was the highest Irish authority upon the subject, Ponsonby replied:

"Although the Queen cannot say she has a high opinion of Mr. Gray,

Her Majesty will approve of his appointment, and that of the Lord

Provost of Edinburgh, on the Royal Commission." Sir Henry Ponsonby

was a worthy successor of General Grey--a wise counsellor of much

prudence, invaluable to the Queen.'

'Early in June Chamberlain came a good deal to the Local Government

Board to consider the evidence which he was to give before my

Commission. His view was mine--that in the Metropolis the housing of

the working classes could only be dealt with by imposing the most

stringent obligations on the owners of property on which artisans'

dwellings already existed; and Chamberlain was willing to go so far

as to reserve such property permanently for the object, with State

interference to secure fair rents. I argued with him that a strong

case could be made against him on such points as extension of trade

from the City into Whitechapel, extension of fashionable dwellings

from Mayfair into Chelsea, and so forth. He then fell back upon a

proposal for exchange, and said that at all events there was no

practical alternative to his view, an opinion in which I agreed. On

a later day in June the Cardinal wrote to me expressing his regret

for absence from the Commission, "at which I should like to have

seen Lord Salisbury examine Mr. Chamberlain." But the Commission

kept up its character for dulness, and nothing noteworthy occurred.'

The Commission on Housing, to which so much of Sir Charles's time was

devoted, had an importance, now forgotten, in the modern development of

Social Reform.

'Up to five-and-twenty years ago,' said a writer in a daily

newspaper on Social Reform in 1910, 'when the living Sir Charles

Dilke was the President of the Local Government Board, no one cared

how the poor lived or fared. They could reside in the most

ramshackle tenements in insanitary slums, for which, by the way,

they were charged exorbitant rents, far higher than what they would

now pay for the well-ventilated and well-equipped self-contained

houses of the London County Council and building companies which

provide accommodation for the industrial classes. Sir Charles saw

the abject and helpless condition of the people of London, and

resolved, when he succeeded to office, to try and remedy the evils

under which they laboured. His enthusiasm in the cause of the poor

caught on, and in a short time "slumming" became a fashionable

craze. Committees were formed--the premier one being that which had

its headquarters at the Mansion House--to improve the dwellings of

the poor. In a short time the movement became a great success, and,

that there should be no falling back, medical officers of health,

whose sole time was to be devoted to their duties, and battalions of

sanitary inspectors, were appointed in every district in the

Metropolis.'

It cannot be said that 'no one cared,' for outside the great official

movement which Sir Charles Dilke directed were the devoted social

workers on whom he called for evidence at the Commission, and to whose

labours he always paid tribute; nor must be forgotten the Queen's fine

letter calling on her Ministers to act. But, as Miss Octavia Hill wrote

to him on March 22nd, 1884, 'you among all men realize most clearly that

action is more needed than words.'

The question of Housing is so inextricably bound up with all the

conditions of the poor, with hours of work and with those questions of

wages which Sir Charles had first studied with John Stuart Mill, that it

is natural to find him presiding over another inquiry which, though

prepared for in 1884, was carried out in the first weeks of 1885.

'At the beginning of the new year of 1885 there were completed the

final arrangements for my presidency of the Industrial Remuneration

Conference, which was held at the end of January at Prince's Hall,

Piccadilly, on three mornings and three afternoons. A large sum of

money had been given for the purpose of promoting the consideration

of the best means for bringing about a more equal division of the

products of industry between capital and labour, so that it might

become possible for all to enjoy a fair share of material comfort

and intellectual culture--possible for all to lead a dignified life,

and less difficult to lead a good life. The trustees who were

appointed decided to promote a conference on the present system

whereby the products of industry are distributed between the various

classes of the community, and the means whereby that system should

be improved. They then divided the subject into subheads, and asked

certain persons to read papers, and an extraordinarily interesting

series of discussions was the result. In my own speech in opening

the proceedings I called attention to the nature of the German

Governmental Socialism, and quoted Prince Bismarck's speeches,

showing what was the object which the Prussian Government had in

view--namely, to try experiments as to the labour of man with the

view "to reach a state of things in which no man could say: 'I bear

the burden of society, but no one cares for me.'" This Conference

first introduced to London audiences all the leaders of the new

Unionism, and future chiefs of the Dockers' Strike. Among the

speakers were Arthur Balfour and John Burns, who told us of his

dismissal from his employment as an engineer at Brotherhoods

[Footnote: A great engineering firm at Chippenham in Wiltshire.] for

attending as delegate of the "S.D.F."'

'I am convinced,' wrote Mr. Burns in 1914 from the Office of the

Local Government Board, over which he then presided, 'that few, if

any, conferences held in London in recent years have done more good

for the cause of social progress than the Industrial Remuneration

Conference of 1885. The Conference focussed public opinion and

sympathy upon a large number of important questions, which have

since made greater headway than they would have done if the

Conference had not taken place. I have the highest opinion of the

value of its work, and of the good influence it exercised in

stimulating inquiry and action in many directions.'

Six years later, when Sir Charles was before the electors of the Forest

of Dean as their chosen candidate, he discussed the whole question of

limiting by law the hours of work; and he told them how his experience

of those days spent in the chair of the Conference in 1885 had converted

him 'from a position of absolute impartiality to one strongly favourable

to legislative limitation.'

A speech delivered by him in January, 1884, to the Liberals of Bedford

Park, brings together the two sides of his work. For him political

reform lay at the very base of social reform; in his opinion the

government of London and extension of the franchise ought not to be

party questions at all; his desire was to call the whole people of the

country into citizenship of the State, and he would make exercise of the

voting power compulsory and universal. People said there was no 'magic

in the vote.' He wanted as many citizens as possible to have the right

to consider 'the sort of magic by which many persons contrived to live

at all under the existing social conditions.'

A proof of his friendship for the cause of labour, and of his desire to

associate manual workers with the administration, was given by him in a

use of patronage, in which he departed from his principle of confining

it to the men in his office, tendering the chance of official employment

to two leading representatives of labour in August, 1884.

'I had a "good" appointment under the Local Government Board to

make, and I offered it not only to Broadhurst, but afterwards to

Burt. I expected both of them to decline, which both did, but I

should have been glad if either of them would have taken it, for

both were competent.'

IV.

As to his departmental work, Sir Charles notes in July, 1884:

'I have said but little of my work at the Local Government Board,

because, though heavy, it was of an uninteresting nature.'

[Footnote: There are, however, many entries, of which this for 1884

is typical:

'September 8th.--With the Local Government Board Inspectors Fleming

and Courtenay to the worst villages in England. I made my way from

Bridport to Yeovil, Nettlecombe, Powerstock, Maiden Newton, Taunton

and its neighbourhood, Wiveliscombe, Bridgwater, and North

Petherton.'

'Between September 21st and 27th I was visiting workhouses and

infirmaries every day, and on the 27th I completed my visits to

every workhouse, infirmary, and poor-law school in or belonging to

Metropolitan Unions.]

'My chief new departure was in connection with the emigration of

pauper children, which had been long virtually prohibited, and which

I once more authorized.'

Mr. Preston Thomas has fortunately preserved a note of another

innovation. The Guardians of a certain union in Cambridgeshire had

committed the offence of spending three shillings and threepence of

public money on toys for sick pauper children in the workhouse

infirmary. The case had occurred before, and the Board's legal advisers

had held the expenditure to be unwarrantable, and had surcharged the

offending Guardians. Dilke was questioned in the House about the matter,

and admitted the previous decisions, but said that the Board had changed

its mind. So the children at Wisbech kept their toys; and not only that,

but a circular went out from Whitehall suggesting that workhouse girls

should be supplied with a reasonable number of skipping-ropes and

battledores and shuttlecocks.

The appearance of cholera in French and Spanish ports disquieted the

public, and as early as July 25th, 1883,

'I circulated a draft of a Bill to meet the cholera scare, which I

carried into law as the Diseases Prevention Act. I did not much

believe in cholera, but I took advantage of the scare to carry some

useful clauses to deal with smallpox epidemics, the most important

clause being one giving compulsory powers for acquiring wharves, by

which we could clear the London smallpox hospitals, removing the

patients to the Atlas and Castalia floating hospitals on the Thames.

I was a strong partisan of the floating hospitals for smallpox. I

used to pay frequent visits to them, and in the early summer of 1885

stayed there from Saturday to Monday; and I used also to go to the

camp at Darenth to which we removed convalescents from the ships.'

He notes that he was revaccinated before one of these visits:

'September, 1884.--My arm was in a frightful condition from the

vaccine disease, though I was still a teetotaller, now of about ten

years' standing.'

During the autumn recess:

'In the course of this week I was every day inspecting schools and

asylums, the imbecile asylums at Caterham, Leavesden, and many

others; and my smallpox wharves were also giving me much trouble, as

Rotherhithe and the other places showed strong objections to them,

which I was, however, able to remove.'

But the veteran official who has been already quoted attaches a very

different importance to this whole matter. In France and Spain, says Mr.

Preston Thomas, the Governments were chiefly concerned to deny the

existence of any danger. In England the medical staff demanded such an

increase in the number of inspectors as would enable them to take proper

precautions at the ports.

'Fortunately, Sir Charles Dilke had become President of the Board,

and carried with him a political weight which his two worthy, but

not particularly influential, predecessors, Sclater-Booth and

Dodson, had not enjoyed. He had one or two passages of arms with

Childers, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, when it was attempted to

interfere with the estimates which he had put forward, and which he

declined to defend in Parliament if they were curtailed. There was

an appeal to the Premier, and Sir Charles Dilke had come off

victorious. So when he proposed largely to increase the medical

staff in order to make a sanitary survey of the entire coast, the

Treasury's sanction was given, and the work was carried out with

far-reaching results. The authorities of the ports ... were

impressed with a sense of their responsibilities; not only did they

organize special arrangements for the inspection of ships from

infected countries, but they also recognized the necessity of

setting their own houses in order in a literal sense, and many of

them for the first time displayed activity in providing pure water,

efficient sewerage, and a prompt removal of nuisances.... The

communications of the Board's expert with the local authorities and

their officers ... did something more than lay the foundations of

that Public Health System ... which has saved us from any outbreak

of cholera for the last quarter of a century, [Footnote: Written in

1909.] and has reduced the mortality from preventable diseases to a

rate which such countries as France and Germany may well envy.'

(_Work and Play of a Government Inspector_, p. 148.)

It should be noted, too, that the first definite action of the Housing

Commission concerned the Local Government Board:

'It was decided to ask Parliament to alter its standing orders with

regard to persons of the labouring class displaced under

Parliamentary Powers, and to insist on local inquiry in such cases,

and the approval of the Local Government Board after it has been

shown that suitable accommodation had been found for the people

displaced. This was done by resolution of both Houses of

Parliament.'

V.

The friendliness which had grown up between Sir Charles and Lord

Salisbury, and was later in this year to be of public service, is

illustrated by an amusing note in the Memoir. Sir Charles Dilke was

never a clubman, and had incurred the remonstrances of Sir M. Grant Duff

by refusing to take up membership of the Athenaeum, as he was entitled

to do on entering the Cabinet. But there is a club more august than the

Athenaeum, and here also Dilke showed indisposition to enter. He notes

in May:

'Before this I had been much pressed to accept my election at

Grillion's Club on Lord Salisbury's nomination. The Club considers

itself such an illustrious body that it elects candidates without

telling them they are proposed, and I received notice of my election

accompanied by some congratulations. I at first refused to join, but

afterwards wrote to the secretary: "Carlingford has been to see me

about Grillion's, and tells me that I should have the terrible

distinction of being the first man who ever declined to belong to

it, an oddity which I cannot face, so ... I will ask your leave to

withdraw my refusal." On May 3rd I breakfasted at the Club for the

first time, Mr. Gladstone and a good many other Front Bench people,

chiefly Conservatives, being present.'

The meetings of the Housing Commission had also increased the frequency

of intercourse between Sir Charles Dilke and the Prince of Wales, who

was in this May

'showing a devotion to the work of my Commission which was quite

unusual with him, and he cut short his holiday and returned from

Royat to London on purpose for our meeting.'

On January 11th, 1884, the Duke of Albany wrote to Sir Charles that he

had hoped to call, but was not sure whether he had returned to England.

'I write to express a hope that your opinions will coincide with the

request which I have made to Lord Derby ... namely, to succeed Lord

Normanby as Governor of Victoria.' He referred to their talk at

Claremont of his 'hopes, which were not realized, of going to Canada.'

'The Prince went on to say that, as I had been in Australia, I was "a

more competent judge than some others of the Ministers as to the

advisability of my appointment."' He spoke of the matter as one in which

he was 'vitally interested,' and his 'sincere trust' in Sir Charles's

support. The Cabinet agreed to the appointment,

'unless the Queen persisted in her opposition. The matter had been

discussed at Eastwell (where I stayed with the Duchess of Edinburgh

from the 19th to the 21st) by me with the Duchess as well as with

Princess Louise and Lorne, who were also there. The Duke of

Edinburgh was not there, but at Majorca in his ship. The party

consisted of Nigra, the Italian Ambassador, the Wolseleys, Lord

Baring and his sister Lady Emma, and Count Adlerberg of the Russian

Embassy, in addition to the Princess Louise and Lome already named.'

'On January 24th there was a regular Cabinet. The Queen had written

that she would not allow Prince Leopold to go to Victoria.'

On March 28th 'we heard of the death of Prince Leopold,' codicils to

whose will Sir Charles had witnessed in the preceding year. 'All

newspapers wrote of the pleasant boy as though he had been a man of

literary genius.'

But anxious as Sir Charles had been to further Prince Leopold's wishes,

and in spite of his 'respect for his memory,' he could not allow a

principle, for which he always fought, to be waived.

'The Queen wrote to Mr. Gladstone at this time (April 5th) with

regard to provision for the child and possible posthumous child of

the Duke of Albany, and I wrote to Mr. Gladstone that I could not

possibly agree to any provision for them, for which there was no

exact precedent, without the Select Committee which I had previously

been promised as regarded any new application.'

On April 22nd Mr. Gladstone alluded 'to a letter to the Queen, but he

did not read it to us,' and Sir Charles again insisted 'upon inquiry

before the proposal of any provision for which there was no direct

precedent.'

'At the Cabinet of Monday, April 28th, we found that the Queen was

indignant with us for our refusal to make further provision for the

Duchess of Albany.... None of the precedents of the century

warranted provision for children in infancy. It was agreed that Mr.

Gladstone was to write to the Queen again, but "our negative answer

is only applicable to the case where the children are in infancy."

In other words, we did not wish to bind those who might come after

us, but the phrase was not to commit us as to what we would do in

five years' time.'

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