_Abstem._ Rightly, if it were merely a question of a

chalice of wine, but it is one’s senses and intellect

which are in question, the chief possessions of man. But

if we are to talk over so copious and festive a subject,

first I must ask of you whether you are drunk?

_Asot._ No, certainly not. This you can easily and truly

see from the connectedness of my talk. Do you think, if

I were drunk, that I could relate all this in such an

orderly fashion?

_Abstem._ Then it is well, for otherwise I should be

contending with an absent opponent, according to the

verse of Mimus. But tell me now, first, why don’t you

erect a temple in these parts to Bacchus, the discoverer

of this celestial liquor?

_Asot._ This is your business; you, who have a temple

at Rome of Sergius and Bacchus. It is sufficient for us

daily to follow his rites, wherever we are. And perchance

we should erect a temple for him if it were settled he

was the discoverer, for I have heard certain students

debate the question. There are some who think that Noah

was the first who drank wine and was intoxicated by it.

_Abstem._ Let us leave that point! Tell us what wine you

had.

_Asot._ What concerns us is what sort of wine it is and

whence it came. Let it only have the name and colour of

wine, that is sufficient for us. For these delicacies in

wines let the Frenchman and the Italian seek.

_Abstem._ What enjoyment can there then be if you don’t

at all taste what you are pouring into your body?

_Tric._ Perchance some taste something at the beginning

with the palate whole. But when it becomes palled from so

great a superfluity, things lose all their taste.

_Abstem._ If thirst has been quenched, no pleasure

remains. For this consists only in the satisfaction

of natural needs. So it is a kind of torment to go on

drinking when there is no thirst, or to eat when there is

no hunger.

_Tric._ Don’t you think, then, Abstemius, that we drink

for pleasure or because it is pleasant?

_Abstem._ Then you are so much worse than beasts, who are

controlled by natural desires, whilst reason does not

govern you, nor nature exercise a control over you.

_Tric._ Good fellowship leads us to that point; and in

spite of reason we get drunk little by little.

_Abstem._ How often have you been drunk? how often do you

see others drunk?

_Tric._ Every day, very many.

_Abstem._ Don’t then so many experiments satisfy you so

as to put you on your guard against so disgraceful an

event? Even one such experience would suffice for an

animal!

_Glauc._ But do you know also how dear our companions

are, for whose sake men become beasts? Whilst drinking

they would give their very hearts for them. When they

meet afterwards, they hardly know them! Their very life

and soul they would not redeem for the sum of a sesterce.

_Abstem._ Out of what sort of cups and how did you quaff

the wine?

_Asot._ In the first place there were brought glass cups;

a little time afterwards, on account of the danger,

these were taken away and silver ones presented. In the

wine at first we put herbs, which the season of the year

provided, a little time afterwards, flesh-broth, milk,

butter, and pap.

_Abstem._ Oh, filth, which would not be borne by animals!

_Tric._ How much more tragically (τραγικὼτερον) you would

call out if you knew that they plunged their dirty hands

into one another’s wine and cast in the shells of eggs,

fruit and nuts, and the stones of olives and prunes.

_Abstem._ Cease from this description, if you don’t wish

me to take myself off hence to some woods.

_Tric._ Listen to me, Glaucia. I will speak in your ear.

Some people carry a hunting-bugle when taking a journey,

which is full of dust, straws, fluff, and other dirty

things. Out of this we drank.

_Glauc._ What?

_Tric._ What, indeed? wine?

_Glauc._ Nay, rather say your understanding.

_Tric._ Clearly it is so. And after we had drunk the

understanding we took pots (_matuli_), not altogether

clean, from off a stool and used them for cups.

_Effects_

_Abstem._ How ended the banquet—the story of which sounds

like a fable?

_Asot._ The floors swam with wine. We were all drunk,

especially the host, a strong man. Two or three were

lying down under the table, overcome by a great victory.

_Abstem._ O glorious victory, and in a very beautiful and

glorious conflict! But did wine overcome every one?

_Asot._ Even so.

_Abstem._ Wretched man, what do you think drunkenness is?

_Asot._ A fine thing! It is to give oneself up to one’s

genius.

_Abstem._ Yes, but which genius, your good one or your

bad one?

_Glauc._ If you will rightly look into all these matters,

you will never find which genius they give themselves up

to. For it is neither to the heart, nor to pleasure,

nor any other cause for which others indulge, who follow

vices and the depraved desires of the mind. To be drunk

is different. It is to lose the power of the senses,

to go away from the power of reasoning, of judgment;

clearly, from being a man to become either cattle or,

indeed, a stone. What follows afterwards I can easily

imagine, had I never seen a drunkard; to speak, and not

to know what you are saying; if any secret, of especial

importance not to be divulged, is committed to you,

to blab it out, and to say things which may lead into

grave danger yourself, your people, and often your whole

province and fatherland, to have no discrimination of

friend and foe, of wife and mother—and it leads to

quarrels, contentions, enmities, snares, wounds, maiming,

killing!

_Tric._ Even without sword and blood, for not a few pass

on from drunkenness to death.

_Glauc._ Who would not prefer to be shut up at home with

a dog or a cat than with a drunkard? For those animals

have more intellect in them than the drunkard.

_Abstem._ After the drunkenness follows indigestion,

weakening of the nerves, paralysis, the tortures of gout,

heaviness in the head and the whole body, dulness of all

the senses; memory is extinguished; the sharpness of the

intellect is stunned; thence there is a stupor in the

whole mind which precludes intelligence, wisdom, and

eloquence.

_Asot._ Now I begin to understand what a serious evil

drunkenness is; henceforward, I will take the keenest

pains to drink up to the point of cheerfulness, not to

that of drunkenness.

_Glauc._ Joviality is the gate of drunkenness. No one

comes to be drunk with the idea in his mind that he will

get drunk; but he is exhilarated by drinking; then going

on and on, drunkenness follows afterwards, for it is

difficult to place the bounds of joviality and to remain

in it. Slippery is the step from joviality to drunkenness!

_Abstem._ So long as thou hast the wine in the beaker, it

is in thy power; when thou hast it in thy body, thou art

in the power of the wine. Then you are held and do not

hold. When you drink, you treat wine as you like. When

you have drunk, it will treat you as it likes.

_Asot._ What then? Are we never to drink?

_Abstem._ When fools avoid their vices, they run into the

opposite extremes. We must, indeed, quench thirst, but

not be “drinkers.” Nature on this point teaches beasts

alone. The same nature will not teach man, because he

possesses reason. You eat when you are hungry; you drink

when you are thirsty. Hunger and thirst will warn you how

much, when, to what extent, we must eat and drink.

_Asot._ What if I am always thirsty, and if I cannot

assuage my thirst except by getting drunk?

_Abstem._ Then drink what cannot possibly make you drunk.

_Asot._ The constitution of my body won’t permit that.

_Abstem._ If then you had such hunger that by no amount

of food you could satisfy it unless you were to burst

yourself, what then?

_Asot._ That indeed would not be hunger, but disease.

_Abstem._ There would surely be need of medicine, not

meals, to take away that hunger, wouldn’t there?

_Asot._ Certainly.

_Abstem._ So needest thou for such a thirst a physician,

not an inn-keeper, and a drug from the chemist, not one

fetched from the providers of banquets. What you describe

is not thirst but disease, and a perilous one, too!

XIX

REGIA—_The King’s Palace_

AGRIUS, SOPHRONIUS, HOLOCOLAX

In this dialogue, the Royal Dwelling or Palace and its

parts, persons, and functions are described, as to which

see Vincentius Lupanas, in his book _de Magistratibus

Francorum_. For our Vives here chiefly describes the

palace of a French king. The persons represented in the

dialogue are fitly named from the Greek. For Agrius is

with them a country rustic, unskilled in court-life.

Sophronius is a prudent, modest, and cautious man.

Holocolax is altogether a flatterer, and one who (as

Terence says) has commanded himself to agree to

everything, of which sort of men there is always so

large an assembly in courts. There are two parts of the

dialogue, the Exordium and Narratio.

I. _Introduction (Exordium)_

_Agri._ Why is it so many accompany the king in such

varied styles of dress?

_Soph._ Nay, rather look on their countenances than on

their finery. For their faces are more varied and diverse

than their decorations and clothes.

_Agri._ What reason is there for this difference also of

bearing?

_Apparel—The Countenance_

_Soph._ They are clothed differently according to their

means; differently according to their rank or family,

often even according to their ambitions or vanity.

Many also use elegancy of dress as an angle and net

for catching the favour of the king or of his chief

officers, and, not rarely, for winning the maids of his

court. But the expression of outward countenance follows

the stirrings of the mind, and such outward expression

is nearly always such as is prompted by the inner

disposition of the mind.

_Agri._ But why do so many men meet here together?

_Holo._ Is it not fitting that very many people should

come where the capital and government of the whole

province are seated?

_Soph._ Quite so. But most people regard not so much

the commonwealth as their private good. They follow the

government, not because it has the country in its hand,

but because it has fortunes to bestow.

_Holo._ Why not? Since all things are sold for money.

_Soph._ So they think who don’t possess any soul and

mind, but whose health and gifts of body are only common.

_Agri._ What need is there in this tumult of the court

to hold so great a philosophical speculation? I indeed

should prefer to understand from you what sort of

people these are in such great numbers, in such varied

appearances and fashions.

_Holo._ I will tell you of them all, in their rank. For

Sophronius, as far as I know, is not so well versed in

royal matters. But I have been in royal company of all

kinds; I have penetrated, inspected, and seen thoroughly

their courts, and I have always been acceptable and

pleasing to them all.

_Soph._ Thence I suppose it is that you have gained that

name of yours, Holocolax.

II. _Exposition (Narratio)—The King_

_Holo._ You suppose rightly. But do you, Agrius, listen

to me. He yonder, on whom every ear, eye, mind, is

intent, is the king, the head of the kingdom.

_Soph._ Truly the head, and so the health when he is

wise and honest, but the ruin when he is bad or rash

(_demens_).

_The Dauphin—Dignitaries—Prefects_

_Holo._ The little boy who follows him is his son, his

heir, whom in the Greek court they called despot, that

is, lord (_dominus_). In Spain they call him prince, in

France the dauphin. There with a neck-chain, like that

of Torquatus, in clothes all of silk, or all of gold,

are the leaders of the kingdom, with the decorations of

names of military dignitaries, princes, dukes, lords of

the marches, who are called _marchiones_, counts, men who

are named barbarously, barons, knights. This one is the

master of the horse, whom they call by the vulgar term

of _comes stabilis_, a name taken from the Greek court,

when the great Comestabulus (Constable) was, as it were,

the prefect of the sea, the admiral. Further, he was

supreme over the palace, and also was at the head of the

guards. In the time of Romulus they named such an one

_praefectus celerum_, and the guards themselves _celeres_.

_Agri._ Who are those in robes reaching to the ankles,

and with faces of great severity?

_Counsellors_

_Holo._ They are the counsellors of the king.

_Soph._ Those whom the prince calls to his council. It

behoves them to be the most prudent of men, of great

experience, of the greatest weight and moderation in

their discernment.

_Agri._ Why so?

_Soph._ Because they are the eyes and ears of the prince,

and so of the whole kingdom, and so much the more if the

king should be blind or deaf, enslaved by his senses, or

by ignorance, or by enjoyment of pleasure.

_Agri._ Are that one-eyed man and that other deaf man

eyes and ears of the king?

_Soph._ Worse still is blindness and deafness of the

heart!

_Secretaries_

_Holo._ The secretaries follow the counsellors, nor

are they few in number or of one rank; then those who

deal in money matters for the king, or those who get it

in, farmers of the taxes, treasury-tribunes, prefects,

procurators, and advocates of the treasury.

_Agri._ Who are those luxuriously decked and festive

young men who always follow the king and stand at his

side, some laughing at him and others with open mouth,

full of wonder at what he says?

_Courtiers_

_Holo._ These are a band of intimate friends, the delight

and joy of the king.

_Agri._ Why are the two who are entering there followed

by so many men full of grimaces?

_Chancellor—Secretary—Litigants—Prefect of the Bed-chamber_

_Holo._ Because the king has in them especial confidence.

The one is the prefect of the sacred writings, or chief

secretary; the other the keeper of the secret archives,

amongst which are the official statistics (_regni

breviarium_). He has to remind the king of everything.

Therefore daily so many come to him, so that they may

rub up and renew his memory, since that is the keeping

of the memory of the prince. Those who draw in their

countenances are litigants, who are prosecuting their

suits. Their business never finds an end, through the

long series of procrastinations which are kept up. Those

two who keep walking up and down the hall are prefects,

the one of the sleeping-chamber, the other of the royal

stables. These have under them very many other chamber

and stable attendants. But let us enter the royal

dining-hall.

_Agri._ Ah, how great a crowd solicitous and stately in

their pomp!

_Soph._ You would observe these with still greater

amazement if you knew how small a matter they are

attending to. It is, forsooth, this: it is how a sick man

may suck up a single egg and drink a little wine.

_Master of the Feast_

_Holo._ That man is the master of the feast for this

week. There he is with an Indian who has a plait of

rushes on him. That young man is the cup-bearer. The

carver has not yet entered.

_Agri._ Who are about to have their breakfast

(_pransuri_) with the king?

_Holo._ You mean who is so lucky as to take part in this

feast of the gods?

_Soph._ Formerly guests were invited to the royal table,

sometimes experienced military commanders, sometimes men

of high lineage, or sometimes those distinguished either

by experience in affairs, or by their learning, by whose

discourse the king would become better and wiser. But the

pride of Goths and other barbarians has invaded this our

custom.

_Holo._ The chief followers have their grown-up

armour-bearers and their boy-followers, boys on foot and

spurred boys. Amongst these are quite magnificent, rich

people, who most of them take their meals in correct

fashion, or if this seems to them wearisome, they send

basketfuls to their friends. This latter custom is more

useful to their poorer friends. But the correct fashion

of feasting has more distinction in it.

_Agri._ I seem to see quite another sort of people in

that eating-chamber.

_Ladies’ Quarters_

_Holo._ Those are the ladies’ quarters, where the queen

lives with her matrons and girls. Look how they enter and

go out from the hall (_ex parthenone_) like as bees from

a hive—young lovers and slaves of Cupid!

_Soph._ Often old people have a second childhood.

_Holo._ There is no greater pleasure than to hear the

keenly thought-out sayings, or poems, songs, early

morning (_antelucanus_) melodies, and chat of these

girls, to see their briskness, their walking in and out,

varieties of colour in their dress, their clothing and

shapes of garments. They have boys as amanuenses, through

whom they send and return messages. With what zeal and

what industry, what breeding, they announce and bring

back messages, hither and thither. By the faith of the

gods! with uncovered heads, with bent hams and bowed

knees. Every day there is something new to be heard,

seen, and pondered over; something which has been acutely

or subtly thought out or said, or done with spirit, or

dexterously, or without restraint.

_Soph._ Nay, rather in a négligé way.

_Holo._ What greater happiness? Who could tear himself

away from such delight?

_Soph._ Colax, Colax, without being in love you

are raving, and without wine, you are drunk. What

foolishness could be greater than what has been described

by you?

_Holo._ I don’t know how it happens that you see heaps of

people depart from the schools quite young, but let them

once enter the court, they become old in it.

_Soph._ So also those who drank from the cup of Circe

would be unwilling to yield and return to their human

nature and condition, having once lost their reason, and

having degenerated into the nature of beasts!

_Agri._ But what do all these do when they go home, and

with what actions do they occupy themselves to pass the

time, at least?

_Leisure Time—Flattery_

_Soph._ The most of them do nothing more serious than

what you now observe them doing, and then their leisure

is for them the parent and nurse of many vices. Some play

at dice, cards, the gaming-board, at disputations; others

pass the afternoon hours in secret slander and artful

calumny, that is to what they degenerate at home. Many

also are wonderfully taken up with buffoons and jugglers,

towards whom those who are at other times niggardly and

sordid, to them they are most lavish. But the chief

corruption of the court is the flattery of each to all

the others, and, what is still worse, towards himself.

This brings it about that no one ever hears salutary

truths either from himself nor from his companions unless

when at strife. And though he receives then all too

little of truth, he takes it as insult.

_Holo._ This employment is now by far the most

profitable. _You_ may hunger and thirst after the love of

speaking and truth. _I_ have become rich by my smiling,

blandishments, and by approving and praising everything.

_Agri._ Could not the kings alter these unsatisfactory

matters?

_Soph._ Very easily, if they only wished to do so! But

these fashions are pleasing; they are similar to their

own. Others are precluded by their preoccupations, on

account of which they never have leisure for doing

anything which is right or thinking anything which

is sane. There are also not lacking those who, with

indulgent minds and careless themselves, don’t think

the morality of their own homes, and that of their

dependants, any concern of theirs. And those things

trouble them less than the private home of each of us

troubles any of us.

XX

PRINCEPS PUER—_The Young Prince_

MOROBULUS, PHILIPPUS, SOPHOBULUS

This dialogue is entirely “political,” for Vives lays

down the precepts to the boy prince, and teaches the

art of good government. The names are aptly bestowed.

Morobulus is a foolish counsellor, _à_ μωρὸς, foolish,

βουλὴ, counsel; Sophobulus, a prudent counsellor. There

are two parts of the dialogue.

INSTITUTIO

_Morobuli de_ { Inutilitate studiorum

{ Praeceptoribus

{ Quod principi sit necessaria: idque ostendit

{ tribus similitudinibus

_Sophobuli_ {

_de arte_ { Quomodo { Doctrina: ubi { Sint

_gubernandi_ { comparanda { ostendit, quinam {

{ sit { Consulendi { Non

{ Ocii fuga { sint

I. _The Teaching of Morobulus—The Study of Literature_

_Morob._ What has your highness in hand, Philip?

_Phil._ I read and learn with zeal, as you can see for

yourself.

_Morob._ I see only too well, and am pained that you

weary yourself, and that you are making that little body

of yours quite lean!

_Phil._ What then should I do?

_Morob._ That which other nobles, princes, and rich men

do—ride about, chat with the daughters of your august

mother, dance, learn the art of bearing arms, play cards

or ball, leap and run. Such, you see, are the studies

in which young nobles most delight. If now people, who

scarcely are worthy to be received in your family, enjoy

these pleasant occupations, why is it suitable for you to

do as you are doing, when you are the son and heir of so

great a prince?

_Phil._ What! is the study of letters no good?

_Morob._ It is indeed of good, but rather for those

who are initiated in holy affairs, _i.e._, priests, or

for those who, by useful knowledge of their art, are

about to earn their living, such as the shoemaker’s

art, the weaving art, and the other arts necessary for

money-making. Rise, I beg of you, put away your books

from your hands. Let us go out for a walk, so that for

some short time you may get fresh air!

_Phil._ I may not do so just now, because of Stunica and

Siliceus.

_Morob._ Who are these Stunica and Siliceus? Are they not

your subjects, over whom you have the command, not they

over you?

_Teachers_

_Phil._ Stunica is my educator, while Siliceus is my

literary tutor. Subjects of mine indeed they are, or to

speak more exactly, of my father; but my father, to whom

I am subject, placed them over me, and subjected me to

them.

_Morob._ What then! Did your father give your highness

into servitude to these men?

_Phil._ I don’t know.

_Morob._ Oh! most unworthy deed!

II. _The Teaching of Sophobulus_

_Soph._ By no means, my son! Certainly he made them thy

servants; he wished them to stick close to thee, as eyes,

ears, soul, and mind, to be always engaged on thy behalf,

each of them to put aside his own affairs, and to make

thy affairs his sole business, not so as to vex thee by

imperiousness; but that those good and wise men should

transform thy uncultivated manners into the virtue,

glory, and excellence of a man; not so as to make thee a

slave, but truly a free man and truly a prince. If thou

dost not obey them, then wilt thou be a slave of the

lowest order, worse than those here amongst us who are

employed, bought and sold from Ethiopia or Africa.

_Morob._ Whose slave, then, would he be, if he did not

mould his morals after his educators?

_Soph._ Not of men certainly, but of vices, which are

more importunate masters, and more intolerable than a

dishonest and wicked man!

_Phil._ I don’t quite understand what you say.

_Soph._ But did you understand Morobulus?

_Phil._ Most clearly, everything.

_Soph._ Oh, how happy men would be, if they had the sense

and intelligence for good and satisfactory things which

they have for frivolous and bad things! Now indeed,

on the contrary, at your time of life, it happens that

you understand with ease what is trifling, what is

inept, nay, even what is insane, such things as those to

which Morobulus has exhorted you, and then you regard

what I would say on virtue, dignity, and every kind of

praiseworthy thing, as if I were speaking Arabic or

Gothic.

_Phil._ What, then, are you of opinion I ought to do?

_Soph._ You should at least suspend your judgment.

Neither acquiesce in the opinions of Morobulus, nor in

mine, until you are able to judge as to both.

_The Act of Governing_

_Phil._ Who will give me this power of judgment?

_Soph._ Ah! that will come with age, teaching, and

experience.

_Morob._ Alas! that would require long weariness of

waiting!

_First Similitude_

_Soph._ Morobulus advises well. Throw away your books.

Let us go and play! Let us play a game in which one is

elected king. He will prescribe to the others what should

be done. The rest obey, according to the laws of the

game. You shall be king.

_Phil._ How shall the game be? For if I don’t know the

game, how shall I be able to take the part of king in it?

_Second Similitude_

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