_Crit._ I forgive fruits their harmfulness on account of

their pleasantness of taste.

_Meats_

_Scop._ Do you remember the verse of Cato?

Pauca voluptati debentur; plura saluti.[75]

Give every one a platter of meat with sauce, so that he

may swallow it down, and this will warm the intestines

and pleasantly wash and so soften the body.

_Sim._ Here, boy, give me at once some salted pork. Oh!

most savoury leg of pork! It is a barrow-hog. If you can

hear what I say, return the cabbage and bacon, to the

cook, at this season of the year, or preserve it till the

winter. Cut me a couple of bits off this sausage, so that

the first cup of wine may taste the sweeter.

_Crit._ Let us follow the advice of physicians that wine

be taken with pork. Pour out wine.

_Wine_

_Scop._ Now follows action after talk. Surely this is

wisest at this time of the year. Look at the necessary

preparations for our drinking wine. First of all the

keeper of the sideboard (_custos abaci_) has set out

the cups of brightest crystal glass with purest white

wine; you would think it water by its mere appearance. It

is San Martin wine and partly Rhein wine, but not mixed

as they are accustomed to drink it in Belgium, but such

as they drink in mid-Germany. The wine-seller to-day

has tapped two casks, one of yellow Helvell from the

neighbourhood of Paris, and one of blood-red Bordeaux.

Others are in readiness kept cool, dark (_fuscus_) from

Aquitaine and black from Saguntum. Let every one choose

according to his liking.

_Crit._ What suggestion could be more delightful? as

nothing is harder fortune than to perish of thirst.

For myself I should prefer that you had set before

us the best water. I would rather have heard such an

announcement than that of the wines.

_Scop._ Nor shall that be lacking.

_Sim._ Lately when I was in Rome, I drank at a cardinal’s

house, the noblest wines of every flavour; sweet, sharp,

mild, fruity, and tart. I was indeed extremely friendly

with the wine-cellarer.

_Dem._ I dearly like fiery wine.

_Pol._ So also do Belgian women. In some places in France

they offer you the dregs of wine. They most delight in

two and three year old vintage. But these are rather

sampling of wine than real wine-drinking, and French

wine especially bears neither the addition of water nor

years. Therefore soon after it is racked off it is drunk.

Indeed, in a year it begins to get worse, and becomes

uncertain, then its flavour escapes and it becomes sour.

Had it been kept longer it would become mouldy and flat.

The Spanish and Italian wines, on the other hand, improve

with age, and with the addition of water.

_Dem._ What do you mean by wine getting “flat”? The casks

become shrunken, the wine is enclosed in cells, and the

casing of the cask falls in, if need be.

_Pol._ Like as fruit gets uneatable through decay by age

and does not keep, and, as we say commonly, goes bad. The

opposite term is “still wine” (_consistens_).

_Dem._ Pour me first a half-cupful of water and then pour

in the wine, after the old custom.

_Crit._ Nay, to-day’s custom is yet the same with many

people, the French and Germans being exceptions.

_Dem._ The nations who drink water with wine pour wine to

the water; those who will drink wine watered, pour water

on to the wine.

_Crit._ And what do those drink who mix no water with

their wine?

_Dem._ Pure, unmixed wine.

_Crit._ That is, if the wine-dealer did not first water

it himself.

_Pol._ They call that baptising it, so that the wine

should be Christian. This was in my time a fine,

philosophical way of speaking.

_Dem._ They baptise the wine, and themselves are

unbaptised (_i.e._, unwatered or unwashed).

_Pol._ They do worse to wine who add chalk, sulphur,

honey, alum, and other more noisome things than which

nothing is more pernicious to one’s body. Against such

people the state ought to proceed as against robbers or

assassins. For thence are incredible kinds of diseases

and especially gout.

_Crit._ By conspiracy with physicians they can do this.

Then both share the profit.

_Dem._ The cup you reach to me is too full. Empty it a

little, I beg, so that there may be a space for water.

_Drinking_

_Crit._ Pour me wine in that chestnut-coloured cup. What

is that?

_Scop._ A great Indian nut, surrounded with a silver

edge. Won’t you drink out of that bowl of ebony wood?

They say that this is the healthiest. But don’t give me

too much water. Don’t you know the old proverb: “You

spoil wine when you pour water into it”?

_Dem._ Yes, then you spoil both the water and the wine.

_Pol._ I would rather spoil both, than be spoiled by one

of them.

_Scop._ Would it not be pleasant, according to the Greek

custom, to drink out of the bowls and from the bigger

beakers?

_Pol._ By no means. You reminded us just now of the old

proverb. In my turn I remind you of the Pauline precept:

“Be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess”; and that

of our Saviour: “And take heed to yourselves lest at

any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting and

drunkenness.”

_Water_

_Crit._ Whence is this cold water, so pure and pellucid?

_Scop._ Out of the spring near by here.

_Crit._ Rather than mixing of wine I prefer cistern

water, if it is thoroughly pure.

_Dem._ What do you think of spring-drawn water?

_Crit._ It is more appropriate for washing purposes than

for drinking.

_Pol._ Very many people commend flowing water.

_Crit._ And quite rightly if the streams flow through

gold veins, as in Spain, and the water is peaceful and

clear.

_Beer_

_Sim._ Bring me in that Samian phial some beer which, in

this heat, should be very good for refreshing one’s body.

_Scop._ Which sort of beer will you have?

_Sim._ The lightest you have, for other kinds muddle the

mind too much and make the body too fat.

_Pol._ Give me some also, but in the round glass.

_Scop._ Run to the kitchen and see what they are waiting

for. Why don’t they send another course? You see that

already no one further tastes of this. Bring young cocks

cooked with lettuce, garden oxtongue, and endive; also

mutton and calf’s flesh.

_Crit._ Add also a little mustard or rock-parsley in

small dishes.

_Dem._ Mustard seems to me a strong (_violenta_) food.

_Crit._ It is not suitable for bilious people, but is not

without its usefulness for those who abound in thick and

cold humours.

_Pol._ Therefore are the countries of northern latitudes

wise in using it, for whom it is of great service,

especially with thick and hard food, _e.g._, with beef

and salted fish.

_Pottage_

_Scop._ In this place, I think broth and rice come

seasonably, also ash-coloured bread, fine wheaten bread,

starch-food, rice, “little worms” (_vermiculi_). Let

every one take according to his taste.

_Dem._ I have seen those who shuddered terribly at

“little worms” because they believed they were out of the

earth and from mud, and had previously been alive.

_Crit._ Such people deserve to have these “worms” come to

life again in their stomachs. They say that rice is born

in water and dies in wine. Give me, therefore, wine.

_Dem._ Drink not immediately after warm food. Eat first

something cold and solid.

_Crit._ What?

_Dem._ A crust of bread, or a rissole or two of meat.

_Fish_

_Sim._ Bah! fish and meat at the same sitting! To mix

earth and sea. This is forbidden by physicians.

_Scop._ Nay, rather physicians are pleased by it.

_Sim._ I think it is because it is profitable to them.

_Scop._ Why, then, do the physicians forbid it?

_Sim._ I have made a mistake. I ought to have said

that it is prohibited by the art of medicine, not by

physicians. But what sort of fish is this?

_Scop._ Place them in order. The first is roasted pike

with vinegar and capers, then turbot cooked with the

juice of pointed sorrel, fried soles, a fresh pike and

a _capito_ (large-headed fish)—the salted pike serve

for yourself—fresh roasted and salted tunny-fish, fresh

_maenae_ (small sea fish) fried, pasties, in which are

many bearded-fishes, _murenae_, and trout, with suitable

relishes, fried gudgeon and boiled lobsters and crabs.

Mingle with them dishes with garlic, pepper, mustard,

pounded up.

_Sim._ I will indeed speak of the fish, but not eat of

them.

_Crit._ If a philosopher begins to conduct a controversy

on fish, _i.e._, on a most uncertain, debatable question,

then let us have a bed set up, so that we can sleep here.

_Scop._ No one is worthy to even taste these dishes. Take

them away.

_Sim._ And yet formerly banquets at Rome were most

splendid and they were accustomed to say that sumptuous

ones were given which consisted entirely of fish.

_Crit._ Thus have times changed, although this custom

also lasts with some people.

_Birds_

_Scop._ Bring up roasted chickens, partridges, thrushes,

ducklings, teal, wood-pigeons, rabbits, hares, calf’s

flesh, kids, and sauce or flavours, vinegar, oil, fruit

penetrating in its medical properties, also citrons,

olives from the Balearic Islands, preserved, pressed, and

kept in pickle.

_Dem._ Are no Bethica (district of Spain) olives there?

_Scop._ Those from the Balearic Islands taste better.

_Crit._ What will happen to those big animals there, the

goose, the swan, the peacock?

_Scop._ Merely show them, and take them back to the

kitchen.

_Pol._ See there a peacock! Where is Q. Hortensius who

held a peacock for such a delicacy?[76]

_Sim._ Take the lamb-meat away.

_Scop._ Why?

_Sim._ Because it is unsound. They say it does not go out

by any other way than that it entered.

_Crit._ I have seen someone who swallowed olive stones

like an ostrich.

_Scop._ From what meat are those pasties made?

_Crit._ This here is stag’s flesh.

_Scop._ This is deer’s flesh; and that there, I believe,

is boar’s flesh.

_Crit._ I prefer the condiments to meat itself.

_Sim._ And that is clearly right, for spice renders the

sourest things sweet.

_Crit._ What is the spice of the whole of life?

_Dem._ An equable mind.

_Crit._ I can name something else, which is of larger

scope and more august.

_Dem._ What can be more important than what I have named?

_Crit._ _Pietas_, under which equanimity is included.

Moreover, “piety” is the most suitable and pleasant sauce

for all things hard and easy, and those things which lie

between these extremes.

_Scop._ Pour white Spanish wine in that beaker and bear

it round to the guests.

_Dem._ What are you preparing to do? When dinner is

finished, bring us some strong and generous wine. We can

afterwards drink something more diluted, if we wish to

take care of our health.

_Sim._ Thy counsel seems to me good, for it behoves us

to have colder food at the end of a meal, which by its

weight may thrust down the other food to the bottom of

the stomach, and may restrain the vapours from escaping

to the head.

III. _Second Course_

_Scop._ Take away those things; change the round and

square plates, and lay the second table (dessert). For

no one is anywhere further stretching forth his hand to

the dishes.

_Crit._ I have eaten so heartily from the beginning that

I have quite lost all further appetite.

_Dem._ I also have no more appetite, but I was led on by

the desire of the fruit dishes here, and so have eaten to

satiety.

_Pol._ I have eaten I don’t know how much fish. This has

repulsed all my appetite.

_Sim._ And is there so much of splendid dainties and

delicacies before us when there is no longer the desire

of eating? Pears, apples, and cheese of many kinds! The

most attractive to my palate is the horse-cheese.

_Crit._ I believe that it is not horse-cheese at all, but

Phrygian cheese from asses’ milk, such as is brought from

Sicily in the form of columns and squares. When one is

broken, it cleaves into layers or, as it were, sheets (of

paper).

_Dem._ This cheese is porous as if it were from England,

and will not in my opinion be pleasing to you.

_Crit._ Nor will this spongy Dutch cheese. This from

Parma is thicker and, as it seems, fairly fresh, and that

Penasellian (Spanish) will easily vie with it.

_Dem._ This cheese is not from Parma but Placentia.

_Crit._ It also is pleasant. Commonly the cheese dearest

to the Germans is old cheese, putrid, fried up and wormy.

_Sim._ He who eats such cheese is hunting for thirst and

he eats in order to drink.

_Scop._ The pastry-cook delays too long with his sweets.

Why does he not bring his tarts, his wine-cakes and

cup-cakes and the fried cakes made of a concoction thrown

into a vessel of boiling oil with honey poured over it?

_Crit._ Give me a few dates, both some to eat and some to

keep by me. Perhaps I shall to-night eat nothing else.

_Scop._ Then take the whole of this branch of them. Will

you have some pomegranates?

_Pol._ Here, boy, relieve me of these wild dates and give

me something eatable.

_Scop._ I advise you to drink. Don’t you know that it was

the opinion of Aristotle that the dessert was introduced

into meals to invite us to drinking lest the food should

be digested dry?

_Crit._ The discoverer must have been either a sailor or

fish to be so much afraid of dryness.

_Scop._ Take away those things which are ordinarily

called the seal of the stomach, because after them

nothing more is to be eaten or drunk, biscuits,

quince-cakes, coriander covered with sugar. But such food

must be chewed, not eaten. What remains from the portion

chewed must be spit out, for it is uneatable. Collect

the bits and what remains over in baskets; bring scented

waters, of rose, of the flowers of the healing apple

(citron), and of musk-melon.

IV. _End of the Banquet_

_Pol._ Let us return thanks to Christ.

_The Boy._

Agimus tibi gratias, Pater, qui tam multa ad hominum usus

condidisti: annue, ut tuo favore ad coenam illam veniamus

tuae beatitudinis.[77]

_Pol._ Now then let us return thanks to the host.

_Crit._ Well, you do it.

_Pol._ Nay, rather Democritus, who is strong on these points.

_Dem._ I cannot return thanks as in duty bound to thee, deserving well

of the republic, for all has been confused by Bacchus, but I will

recite what once Diogenes said to Dionysius; I have committed his

speech to memory. If I have a lapse of memory or a faltering tongue you

will forgive me after so great a soaking of drink.

_Scop._ Say what you will; it will be written in wine.

_Dem._ Thou hast, my Scopas, thyself, thy wife, thy man-servants and

maid-servants, neighbours, cooks, and pastry-cooks, wearied thyself

and themselves, so that we may become yet more wearied by eating and

drinking. When Socrates had entered a very crowded market, he exclaimed

wisely, “O immortal gods, how many things there are here which I don’t

need.” Thou, on the contrary, mightest say, “What a small part is

all this of that which I need.” The idea of moderation is pleasing

to Nature. Thereon it is formed and supported. This supply of many

and manifold things overwhelms Nature, as Pliny rightly observes.

Manifoldness of food is injurious to man; yet more injurious is every

sauce. We take hence to our homes bodies made heavy by these things,

minds oppressed and sunk in food and drinks, so that we cannot duly

perform any human duty. Do you yourself point out what thanks we owe

you.

_Scop._ Are these the thanks you have for me? Thus you pay back so

splendid a meal!

_Pol._ Clearly it is so—for what greater benefit is there than becoming

wiser? You send us home evidently beasts. We wish to leave you at home

a man, so that you may know how to consult your own health and that of

others and to live conformably to the desires of Nature, not following

fancies caught up from folly. Farewell and learn wisdom.

XVIII

EBRIETAS—_Drunkenness_

ASOTUS, TRICONGIUS, ABSTEMIUS, GLAUCIA

In this dialogue Vives describes the causes and effects of drunkenness.

The occasion of the dialogue is based on Horace, book i. Epist. 5,

where firstly is described the desire to cast away care by a splendid

feast, to drink the best wines freely and in quantities, for Horace

says:

Potare et spargere flores

Incipiam patiarque vel inconsultus haberi.

Then he adds the seven effects of drunkenness. It causes the disclosure

of secrets, renders men confident, makes them bold, takes away anxiety,

brings the fatuous impression of wisdom, makes men garrulous and

loquacious, and in the depth of poverty renders men dissolute and

lavish.

Quid non ebrietas designat? operta recludit:

Spes jubet esse ratas, in praelia trudit inermem.

Sollicitis animis onus eximit, addocet artes.

Foecundi calices quem non fecêre disertum?

Contractâ quem non in paupertate solutum?

Here, again, names of interlocutors are aptly applied. Asotus (middle

vowel long) is a man given up to luxuries of the palate. In Latin

such is called _heluo_ (glutton), _nepos_ (spendthrift), _decoctor_

(bankrupt). The Greek word comes from a privative particle, and σώζω;

Latin, _servo_. _See_ Cicero, book 2, _de Finibus_: “Nolim asotos, qui

in mensam vomant, et qui de conviviis auferantur, crudique nostridie

se rursus ingurgitent; qui solem (ut aiunt) nec occidentem unquam

viderint, nec orientem: qui consumtis patrimoniis egeant. Nemo istius

generis asotos jucunde putat vivere.”

Concerning Tricongius we have spoken in the dialogue “Garrientes.”

Abstemius is one who does not drink wine, as if held back, _i.e._ from

wine. There are two parts to the dialogue, the Exordium, which contains

the occasion of the dialogue, and Narratio, the telling of the story.

I. _Exordium_

_Asot._ What do you say, Tricongius? How splendidly that

Brabantian entertained us yesterday!

_Tric._ A curse on him, for I could not rest the whole

night! I was sick, with all due respect to you let me say

it (_sit habitus honos vestris auribus_), and then tossed

myself about all over the bed, now on the inner, then

on the outer, frame of the bed. It seemed to me as if I

should vomit forth throat and stomach. Even now I cannot

use my eyes or ears for headache. It is as if I had heavy

bars of lead lying on my forehead and eyes.

_Asot._ Fasten a band round your forehead and temples,

and you will seem to be a king.

_Tric._ Much rather like Bacchus himself, from whom the

institution of diadems on kings was derived.

_Asot._ Go home, then, and sleep off the soaking.

_Tric._ Home, indeed! There is no place I should shun

so much as my home. I should feel too much aversion to

meet my shrieking wife. For if she were to see me now she

would entertain me with longer homilies than Chrysostom.

_Abstem._ And this is what you call being treated

splendidly!

_Glauc._ Clearly so; for your throat and stomach have

been well washed!

_Abstem._ And the hands too?

_Glauc._ Not even once.

_Asot._ Nay, on the contrary, often with wine and milk,

whilst we dipped our hands in one another’s bowls

(_pateras_).

_Glauc._ What could be said more splendidly? Fancy the

fingers sticking with the fat of meat and with sauces.

_Abstem._ By the gods, keep quiet! Who could listen

without nausea to the unclean business, much less look

upon it, or taste of such wine or milk.

_Asot._ By your faith, ye gods! are you so delicate a

man, Abstemius, that you cannot swallow this even with

your ears? What would you do with your palate, if you

were like us? But listen to me, Tricongius, sweetest

fellow-wine-bibber, let us send some boy to fetch us

some of the same wine in that clay vessel. There is no

surer antidote against this poison.

_Tric._ Has this been tried?

_Asot._ Why should it not be so? Don’t you remember the

verses which Colax sings:—

Ad sanandum morsum canis nocturni,

Sume ex pilis eiusdem canis.[78]

PLAUTUS.

_Glauc._ Tell us, I beg you, all about the banquet.

_Abstem._ Nay, don’t! unless you wish me to part with all

I have in my stomach, and even the vitals themselves.

_Glauc._ Then go away for a short time.

_Asot._ I will tell you as frankly as possible, but so as

nowhere to go beyond the limits of decency.

_Glauc._ Begin, I beseech you. Give your attention,

Abstemius.

_Asot._ My dear Glaucia, before everything, I am of

opinion that there is no class of men which can be

likened to festive and liberal hosts at banquets. Some

show knowledge of all kinds of things, _i.e._, of mere

trifles; others show with pride, experience, and wisdom

gathered from practice. And what of this? There are

people who indeed have wealth, but, wretched that they

are, they don’t dare to spend it. What they have, they

take pleasure in storing up. A kindly host is everywhere

of use, everywhere is welcome. The very sight of him is

sufficient to heal the sadness of the mind and scatter

it; and if a man has any wretchedness, the memory of

the feast takes it away. So, too, does the hope and

expectation of a coming feast. All the other so-called

mental blessings I don’t care to look on; they are, to

me, slight and unfruitful.

_Abstem._ I ask you, Asotus, who is the author of such a

fine sentiment?

_Asot._ I and all like me, _i.e._, a host of people

from Belgic France, from the Seine to the Rhine. There

are only a few poor and very sparing men who think

differently, who envy Abstemius his name, and wish to be

called frugal, or else certain distinguished people who

are puffed up with a great opinion of their own wisdom,

_i.e._, an empty word, whom we (_i.e._, the greatest and

chief part of mankind) simply laugh at.

_Abstem._ What do I hear?

_Digression_

_Glauc._ He is quite right, though he is drunk. For

nowhere has scholarship less estimation than in Belgium.

A distinguished man in scholarship is not otherwise

esteemed than one who is occupied in shoe-making or in

weaving.

_Abstem._ And yet there are many students here who make

not altogether unsatisfactory progress.

_Glauc._ Yes. Little boys are led by their parents to

the schools as to an operative shop, by which afterwards

they can derive a living. The very teachers themselves,

incredible to say, as little as the pupils, cherish the

occupation they follow with such slight honour and with

such meagre reward, so that illustrious teachers of the

first rank can scarcely maintain themselves.

_Asot._ This has nothing to do with the subject of our

conversation. Let us return to the banquet.

_Glauc._ Yes, I would rather hear about that, but dismiss

this talk about studies, which are certainly unfruitful.

I know not how you Italians think about scholarship.

In my eyes, it seems to me not only useless but even

pernicious (_damnosa_).

_Abstem._ So it seems to an ox and a pig, as it does to

you. We, too, should think the same if we had not more

intelligence than you.

II. _The Exposition (Narratio)_

_Asot._ If we let you go on, there would be no end.

Therefore, listen. First, we all of us reclined, severe

and serious. Grace was said, and everywhere was silence

and quiet. Every one began to get his knife ready. We put

on the appearance not of eagerness but of restraint (_non

invitatorum sed invitorum_), so that you would have said

that we were compelled to eat, and in the act of eating,

did it as if reluctantly, for our mind had not as yet

warmed with the ardour of spontaneity. Each one placed

his napkin over his shoulders; some indeed in front of

their chests. Others spread the tablecloth over their

knees. One takes bread, looks at it, cleans it, if there

is any coal or cinders lining it. All these things are

done gently and lingeringly (_cunctabunde_).

_Cause_

Some began the meal by drinking; others, before they

drank, took a little salad and salted beef to arouse

their sleeping appetite and to stimulate their languor.

The first cup was of beer, so that there might be a cold,

firm foundation underlaid for the warmth of wine. Then

that holy liquor was brought first in narrow and small

cups, which should rather irritate than assuage thirst.

The host was a very festive man, than whom there was none

better in the whole neighbourhood, nor even his equal,

_i.e._, in my opinion (which may be said without injury

to any one). He then orders the largest of cups to be

brought and a beginning was made of drinking liberally,

after the Greek fashion, as a certain Philo-Greek said,

who once had studied at Lyons. Then we began to talk,

and then to get warm. Everywhere joviality and laughing

became general. Oh, feasts and nights of the gods! We

drank to one another’s health, and returned like for

like, with great equity. It would have been unjust to

gain a point over one’s companion, especially at such a

time.

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