Mr. HUTCHISON. Yes, sir; the cage.
Mr. JENNER. He came to the head of the line, eventually?
Mr. HUTCHISON. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. Then tell me what happened, as best you can recall.
Mr. HUTCHISON. Well, he put the check up there and, of course, that's
what everyone does. They put it up there and you look at the check and
you observe the check and you either make up your mind whether you're
going to cash it or not. But, of course, like I say, with the rule that
I have, there never was any doubt in my mind what I was going to do
with it. I just handed it back to him. I said, "I'm sorry. This is a
two-party check, and we don't cash this amount in a two party check.
Mr. JENNER. Did he say anything about that?
Mr. HUTCHISON. Not a word. Not a word. He just looked at me and picked
up the check and got out of line and walked on out.
Mr. JENNER. Did he have any expression on his face that arrested your
attention?
Mr. HUTCHISON. No, sir.
Mr. JENNER. Do you think he understood what you meant by a "two-party"
check?
Mr. HUTCHISON. Why, I'm sure he must have because I specifically said
to him, "This is a two-party check and our rules and regulations are
that we don't cash this large a check--two-party check."
Mr. JENNER. He didn't seem irritated?
Mr. HUTCHISON. No, sir.
Mr. JENNER. And he accepted your explanation?
Mr. HUTCHISON. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. Do you recall whether or not--let's see, you were in the
cage, but despite that, do you have any recollection as to whether he
purchased anything on that trip?
Mr. HUTCHISON. I couldn't say, because the cage is high enough that you
have to stand up to see across the store. It's not caged completely in
but there's a glass window----
Mr. JENNER. In any event, you didn't serve him anything.
Mr. HUTCHISON. No, sir. Sure didn't.
Mr. JENNER. Do you recall the payee of the check?
Mr. HUTCHISON. No, sir; no, sir. I sure don't. It just didn't enter
my mind, Mr. Jenner, after it was that amount. I wouldn't care who it
was, I wouldn't have cashed it because, like I say, I have my rules and
regulations and if I violate them, my help can violate them, too--so, I
just don't do it.
Mr. JENNER. Do you recall anything about the check--the form of the
check--other than it was a two-party check?
Mr. HUTCHISON. No, sir; I couldn't. I couldn't tell you where it was
given and who wrote the check. All I looked at was--it was the amount.
Mr. JENNER. Do you have any recollection--do you know what a counter
check is?
Mr. HUTCHISON. Yes, sir; I know what a counter check is. It was a
counter check. It wasn't a printed--it wasn't a personalized check. It
was a printed check.
Mr. JENNER. I'm going to hand you one of my own personal checks
[handing to witness.] Now, that's what you call a printed personalized
check?
Mr. HUTCHISON. Yes, sir. That's a printed personalized check.
Mr. JENNER. And it was not that form?
Mr. HUTCHISON. No, sir. This was just a counter check. They all have it
right here [indicating on check]--it's in the form of a draft on the
Dallas market here. You have the name of your bank in print--like this
bank is printed in here. [Indicating on check.]
Mr. JENNER. Yes. But on a counter check, the bank is not imprinted?
Mr. HUTCHISON. No, sir; no, sir. It just has your date and "Pay to the
Order of," and your signature here and, of course, they all have your
micronized letters--they all have that now because each bank puts them
out.
Mr. JENNER. Yes; but they do not appear on counter checks.
Mr. HUTCHISON. No, sir.
Mr. JENNER. Under the circumstances you have explained, now you did not
make a mental note and you do not now have a recollection of the person
to whom this counter check was payable?
Mr. HUTCHISON. No, sir; no, sir. I sure don't, Mr. Jenner.
Mr. JENNER. On these mornings when he came in, these were occasions
when you were not too busy?
Mr. HUTCHISON. That's right.
Mr. JENNER. Do you have any recollection at all--and if so, state the
extent of it--as to whether he arrived at your place of business in
some vehicle--automobile?
Mr. HUTCHISON. Always walking.
Mr. JENNER. Always walking?
Mr. HUTCHISON. Always walking. Yes, sir. He was always walking.
Because, once or twice, I'd be sweeping the sidewalks--I sweep the
sidewalk every morning--and he'd be coming down the Storey side.
Mr. JENNER. All right. I was about to get to that. He was coming down
the Storey side--let's see if I can put it in my vernacular a little:
From what direction was he coming, normally, when you saw him?
Mr. HUTCHISON. From north to south.
Mr. JENNER. He was moving from the north to the south?
Mr. HUTCHISON. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. Which would be coming from the direction of the Paine home?
Mr. HUTCHISON. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. And did you notice the direction in which he went when he
departed your store?
Mr. HUTCHISON. Yes, sir; he just went right around the corner. See,
from my door there's only about 25 feet from the entrance of the door
to the corner of the building. My checking stand is on the, what you
would say, the west side of the building. He'd go out the door and just
go right around the corner.
Mr. JENNER. And in what direction would he be moving then, after he
turned the corner?
Mr. HUTCHISON. North.
Mr. JENNER. And then what street would he be on?
Mr. HUTCHISON. That would be Storey, sir.
Mr. JENNER. So, he was retracing his steps?
Mr. HUTCHISON. Yes, sir; retracing his steps.
Mr. JENNER. Now, on the occasion when these three people were in your
store on that evening, you're not able now to fix that occasion any
more definitely as to point of time than sometime between the 1st and
the--did you say the 15th of November?