Then, he gives the U.S. Marine Corps, radar--April--2 years--1959. That
was his discharge.
Then, also, we have a summary of other work history. But this is a work
history that might be pertinent, but he hasn't spent too much time on.
Let's go back up on the fold, under "identifying information," and
there is an occupational title and a code. The occupational title
listed, "Routine clerical work." The code is 1X49.
This "X" indicates that he has not had any experience, and this type
of work is an entry work. In other words, it is work that he might be
interested in and proficient in if he could get training in it. In
other words, they deemed that he was not really qualified for anything,
and when you have somebody without any apparent qualifications you try
to determine some sort of entry job.
Mr. JENNER. Therefore, I conclude--do I correctly--that from this,
the interviewer concluded this man had no particular skills or
qualifications.
Mr. STATMAN. No; this interviewer ascertained that this individual did
not have a definitive type occupation, so he was sent to the counselor
and after the counselor counseled and tested Oswald, then it was
ascertained that this area of work would probably be the most conducive
for him.
You see, that's why he was sent to the counselor, because the
interviewer could not make a definitive description or a judgment on
his work. That's where our counselor comes in.
Now, we are on the back. Under "miscellaneous" we had--shoe salesman,
4 months, New Orleans, La.; general office work--1 year, New Orleans,
La., 1961.
That concludes the information on the back.
Mr. JENNER. Now, we turn to the inside.
Mr. STATMAN. Right. On the inside are his "conditions affecting
employment?" That would be anything that in any way could, as the
statement says, affect employment adversely or benignly. On this is
first listed, "Bus transportation." It indicates that if a job required
a car, he couldn't go.
Mr. JENNER. Now, I am interested in that--that is a normal inquiry
made, is it, of persons seeking employment?
Mr. STATMAN. Yes; because there are certain geographical areas in
Dallas that are not accessible by bus transportation, so when we get
an order in this area we know that the applicant has to have his own
transportation or he wouldn't be readily available for the job.
Mr. JENNER. Does it mean not only that he does not have an automobile
to drive, but that he is unable to drive one, even if one is furnished?
Mr. STATMAN. No.
Mr. JENNER. It means only that he does not have that type of
transportation available?
Mr. STATMAN. No; this bus transportation means only that in the event
that he would get a job, he would have to get to the job by bus
transportation.
Mr. JENNER. All right.
Mr. STATMAN. There is no indication that he can't get a car at a later
date?
Mr. JENNER. There is no indication by that in what I am interested, of
whether he is able or not able to drive an automobile.
Mr. STATMAN. No; it just describes the motor transportation that he
would have to employ in commuting to his work.
Now, the next remark is "Outstanding verbal and clerical work." Now,
that was taken off of the G.A.T.B., which we will get into in a minute.
In other words, it indicated that he had a great aptitude for
vocabulary and also for clerical type work. This is ascertained off of
his tests.
Mr. JENNER. All right.
Mr. STATMAN. The next is "financial position necessitates immediate
employment."
In other words, that would indicate that even though he might be
qualified for a certain level of work, financially exigencies would
force him into taking the first thing that came along.
Mr. JENNER. The important thing then was to get a job right away?
Mr. STATMAN. Right.
Mr. JENNER. And after he has gotten it, he might be able to entertain
getting some other job?
Mr. STATMAN. Right--in other words, I might be a civil engineer, but
I've just come into town and I will wash dishes until I can get enough
money to get my immediate needs taken care of so I can hunt for a job.
Underneath here, "Brother, junior executive, Acme Brick Co.;
brother--Staff Sergeant, Air Force," and the initials of the
interviewer that talked to him--it is 10-10-62 and it has H.P.C., which
is Helen P. Cunningham.
Mr. JENNER. That is the lady I am about to interview?
Mr. STATMAN. That's right. Now, as I say, this document was prepared by
two people, by Don Brooks, acting as the initial application taker, and
by Helen Cunningham in her capacity as a counselor.
"Applicant's characteristics," this is just a word picture of the
interviewer's or counselor's idea on this applicant. We use that
in order to, when we are looking through to call in somebody for
jobs, you can kind get an idea of what impression they have made on
our personnel. Now, their impression was "well groomed and business
suit"--something.
Mr. JENNER. I think it reads, "Well groomed and spoken, business suit,
alert replies--expressed self extremely well."
Mr. STATMAN. Right.
Mr. JENNER. In whose handwriting is that?
Mr. STATMAN. Well, I don't know; it's either Don Brook's or Helen
Cunningham's, so Helen can verify that. Now, the lower half of this
inside card indicates any placement action we have taken with this
person.
Mr. JENNER. All right.
Mr. STATMAN. Now, we referred him on 10/10 to Harrel Huntington--I
can't read this.
Mr. JENNER. Let me give it a try--H-a-r-r-e-l [spelling] and
H-a-r-r-i-n-g-t-o-n [spelling].
Mr. STATMAN. You are better at that; you must have had hieroglyphics in
school. The job was a messenger job.
Mr. JENNER. Yes; it looks like they are architects--that Harrel and
Harrington--it looks like Exchange "Exch"; is that correct?
Mr. STATMAN. That's probably where the job was--at Exchange Park,
the job was messenger at $1.50 an hour, and no indication of what
disposition was made. They should have posted probably "not hired" in
there and then they called him in about a job for Dallas Transit as
messenger and no referral was offered.
Mr. JENNER. What does that mean?
Mr. STATMAN. That means that after he got there, either the job was
filled or they decided that maybe he wasn't qualified for it.
Mr. JENNER. What is the date of that?
Mr. STATMAN. He was called in 10-26-62 by telephone message, so
apparently they talked to him on the phone and decided not to refer
him. Then a call-in card was sent to him--this was a message card by
mail 5-3-63.
Mr. JENNER. That would be May 3, 1963?
Mr. STATMAN. Yes. Now, he didn't respond to this, so we issued an E-19,
which inactivated his card. In other words, after 3 working days, if he
doesn't respond, we deem this person not available. Then, a telephone
message on 10-7-63 was sent and then on 10-8-63 he was referred to
Solid State Electronics.
Mr. JENNER. Does it indicate the kind of job?
Mr. STATMAN. Yes; as a sales clerk and it paid $350 a month and he
was not hired. On 10-9-63 he was referred to Burton-Dixie as a clerk
trainee at $1.25 an hour. He was not hired. On 10-15 he was called
on the phone and referred direct on the same day to Trans-Texas as a
cargo handler, and he did not report. In other words, he just didn't
show up, and then they have a notation here that looks like--it says,
"Working 10-16 R.L.A." In other words, Robert Adams in some manner of
fashion----
Mr. JENNER. Ascertained that he was working?
Mr. STATMAN. Ascertained or received word that he was working. Now, our
next document--let's take the easiest one--E-40(A) (961), which is the
test record card, and that indicates the different types of tests we
give.
Mr. JENNER. Is that on a 2-sided card?
Mr. STATMAN. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. It does not fold?
Mr. STATMAN. Yes, sir; I'm sorry; it's like this.
Mr. JENNER. It is 2-sided but just one sheet?