I was yesterday honored with yours of the 13th instant, covering the

Governor of Vermont’s of July the 16th. I presume it can not now be long

before I shall receive his answer to the two letters I wrote him from

Philadelphia on the same subject. I now enclose letters received by

yesterday’s post from Mr. Hammond, Mr. William Knox, and Mr. Paleske,

with answers to the two latter. Should these meet your approbation, you

will be so good as to seal and let them go on under the cover to Mr.

Taylor, who will have them conveyed according to their address. Should

you wish any alteration of them, it shall be made on their being

returned. The Prussian treaty is, I believe, within four years of its

expiration. I suspect that personal motives alone induce Mr. Paleske to

press for a convention, which could hardly be formed and ratified before

it would expire; and that his court cannot lay much stress on it. Mr.

Hammond’s former explanations of his notification of the 12th of

April having been laid before Congress, may perhaps make it proper to

communicate to them also his sovereign’s approbation of them.

I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect respect and

attachment, Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant,

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CXVIII.--TO M. DE TERNANT, September 27,1792

TO M. DE TERNANT.

Philadelphia, September 27,1792.

Sir,

Your letter of the 2d instant, informing me that the legislative body,

on the proposition of the King of the French, had declared war against

the King of Hungary and Bohemia, has been duly received, and laid before

the President of the United States: and I am authorized to convey to

you the expression of the sincere concern we feel, on learning that the

French nation, to whose friendship and interests we have the strongest

attachments, are now to encounter the evils of war. We offer our prayers

to Heaven that its duration may be short, and its course marked with as

few as may be of those calamities which render the condition of war so

afflicting to humanity; and we add assurances, that during its course we

shall continue in the same friendly dispositions, and render all those

good offices which shall be consistent with the duties of a neutral

nation.

I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect esteem and

respect, Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant,

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CXIX.--TO MR. PINCKNEY, October 12,1792

TO MR. PINCKNEY.

Philadelphia, October 12,1792.

Dear Sir,

Your favor of August the 7th came to hand on the 6th instant, and gave

me the first certain information of your safe arrival. Mr. Otto, being

about to sail for London, furnishes me with an opportunity of sending

the newspapers for yourself and Mr Barclay, and I avail myself of

it, chiefly for this purpose, as my late return from Virginia and

the vacation of Congress furnish little new and important for your

information. With respect to the Indian war, the summer has been chiefly

employed on our part in endeavoring to persuade them to peace, in

an abstinence from all offensive operations, in order to give those

endeavors a fairer chance, and in preparation for activity the ensuing

season, if they fail. I believe we may say these endeavors have all

failed, or probably will do so. The year has been rather a favorable one

for our agriculture. The crops of small grain were generally good. Early

frosts have a good deal shortened those of tobacco and Indian corn, yet

not so as to endanger distress. From the south my information is less

certain, but from that quarter you will be informed through other

channels. I have a pleasure in noting this circumstance to you,

because the difference between a plentiful and a scanty crop more than

counterpoises the expenses of any campaign. Five or six plentiful

years successively, as we have had, have most sensibly ameliorated the

condition of our country, and uniform laws of commerce, introduced by

our new government, have enabled us to draw the whole benefits of our

agriculture.

I enclose you the copy of a letter from Messrs. Blow and Milhaddo,

merchants of Virginia, complaining of the taking away of their sailors

on the coast of Africa, by the commander of a British armed vessel. So

many instances of this kind have happened, that it is quite necessary

that their government should explain themselves on the subject, and be

led to disavow and punish such conduct. I leave to your discretion to

endeavor to obtain this satisfaction by such friendly discussions as may

be most likely to produce the desired effect, and secure to our commerce

that protection against British violence, which it has never experienced

from any other nation. No law forbids the seaman of any country to

engage in time of peace on board a foreign vessel: no law authorizes

such seaman to break his contract, nor the armed vessels of his nation

to interpose force for his rescue. I shall be happy to hear soon, that

Mr. B. has gone on the service on which he was ordered.

I have the honor to be, with great and sincere esteem, Dear Sir, your

most obedient and most humble servant,

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CXX.--TO MESSRS. CARMICHAEL AND SHORT, October 14,1792

TO MESSRS. CARMICHAEL AND SHORT.

Philadelphia, October 14,1792.

Gentlemen,

Since my letters of March the 18th and April the 24th (which have been

retarded so unfortunately), another subject of conference-and convention

with Spain has occurred. You know that the frontiers of her provinces,

as well as of our States, are inhabited by Indians holding justly the

right of occupation, and leaving to Spain and to us only the claim of

excluding other nations from among them, and of becoming ourselves the

purchasers of such portions of land, from time to time, as they choose

to sell. We have thought that the dictates of interest as well as

humanity enjoined mutual endeavors with those Indians to live in peace

with both nations, and we have scrupulously observed that conduct.

Our agent with the Indians bordering on the territories of Spain has

a standing instruction to use his best endeavors to prevent them from

committing acts of hostility against the Spanish settlements. But

whatever may have been the conduct or orders of the government of

Spain, that of their officers in our neighborhood has been indisputably

unfriendly and hostile to us. The papers enclosed will demonstrate

this to you. That the Baron de Carondelet, their chief Governor at New

Orleans, has excited the Indians to war on us, that he has furnished

them with abundance of arms and ammunition, and promised them whatever

more shall be necessary, I have from the mouth of him who had it from

his own mouth. In short, that he is the sole source of a great and

serious war now burst out upon us, and from Indians who, we know,

were in peaceable dispositions towards us till prevailed on by him to

commence the war, there remains scarcely room to doubt. It has become

necessary that we understand the real policy of Spain in this point.

You will, therefore, be pleased to extract from the enclosed papers such

facts as you think proper to be communicated to that court, and enter

into friendly but serious expostulations on the conduct of their

officers; for we have equal evidence against the commandants of other

posts in West Florida, though, they being subordinate to Carondelet, we

name him as the source. If they disavow his conduct, we must naturally

look to their treatment of him as the sole evidence of their sincerity.

But we must look further. It is a general rule, that no nation has a

right to keep an agent within the limits of another, without the consent

of that other, and we are satisfied it would be best for both Spain and

us, to abstain from having agents or other persons in our employ or

pay among the savages inhabiting our respective territories, whether

as subjects or independent. You are, therefore, desired to propose and

press a stipulation to that effect. Should they absolutely decline it,

it may be proper to let them perceive that, as the right of keeping

agents exists on both sides or on neither, it will rest with us

to reciprocate their own measures. We confidently hope that these

proceedings are unauthorized by the government of Spain, and, in this

hope, we continue in the dispositions formerly expressed to you, of

living on terms of the best friendship and harmony with that country, of

making their interests in our neighborhood our own, and of giving them

every proof of this, except the abandonment of those essential rights

which you are instructed to insist on.

I have the honor to be, with great and sincere esteem, Gentlemen, your

most obedient and most humble servant,

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CXXI.--TO GOUVERNEUR MORRIS, October 15, 1792

TO GOUVERNEUR MORRIS.

Philadelphia, October 15, 1792.

Sir,

I have received your favor of July the 10th, No. 4, but no other number

preceding or subsequent. I fear, therefore, that some miscarriage has

taken place. The present goes to Bordeaux under cover to Mr. Fenwick,

who I hope will be able to give it a safe conveyance to you. I observe

that you say in your letter, that ‘the marine department is to treat

with you for supplies to St. Domingo.’ I presume you mean ‘supplies

of money,’ and not that our government is to furnish supplies of

provisions, &c. specifically, or employ others to do it, this being a

business into which they could not enter. The payment of money here, to

be employed by their own agents in purchasing the produce of our soil,

is a desirable thing. We are informed by the public papers, that the

late constitution of France, formally notified to us, is suspended, and

a new convention called. During the time of this suspension, and while

no legitimate government exists, we apprehend we cannot continue the

payments of our debt to France, because there is no person authorized

to receive it and to give us an unobjectionable acquittal. You are

therefore desired to consider the payment as suspended, until further

orders. Should circumstances oblige you to mention this (which it is

better to avoid if you can), do it with such solid reasons as will occur

to yourself, and accompany it with the most friendly declarations

that the suspension does not proceed from any wish in us to delay the

payment, the contrary being our wish, nor from any desire to embarrass

or oppose the settlement of their government in that way in which their

nation shall desire it; but from our anxiety to pay this debt justly and

honorably, and to the persons really authorized by the nation (to whom

we owe it) to receive it for their use. Nor shall the suspension

be continued one moment after we can see our way clear out of the

difficulty into which their situation has thrown us. That they may

speedily obtain liberty, peace, and tranquillity, is our sincere prayer.

*****

I have the honor to be, with great respect and esteem, Dear Sir, your

most obedient and most humble servant,

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CXXII.--TO M. DE TERNANT, October 16,1792

TO M. DE TERNANT.

Philadelphia, October 16,1792.

Sir,

I am to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of the 9th instant,

proposing a stipulation for the abolition of the practice of

privateering in times of war. The benevolence of this proposition is

worthy of the nation from which it comes, and our sentiments on it have

been declared in the treaty to which you are pleased to refer, as well

as in some others which have been proposed. There are in those treaties

some other principles which would probably meet the approbation of your

government, as flowing from the same desire to lessen the occasions and

the calamities of war. On all of these, as well as on those amendments

to our treaty of commerce which might better its conditions with both

nations, and which the National Assembly of France has likewise brought

into view on a former occasion, we are ready to enter into negotiation

with you, only proposing to take the whole into consideration at once.

And while contemplating provisions which look to the event of war, we

are happy in feeling a conviction that it is yet at a great distance

from us, and in believing that the sentiments of sincere friendship

which we bear to the nation of France are reciprocated on their part.

Of these our dispositions, be so good as to assure them on this and all

other occasions; and to accept yourself those sentiments of esteem and

respect with which I have the honor to be, Sir, your most obedient and

most humble servant.

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CXXIII.--TO MESSRS. VIAR AND JAUDENES, November 1, 1792

TO MESSRS. VIAR AND JAUDENES, _Commissioners of Spain_

Philadelphia, November 1, 1792.

Gentlemen,

I have now to acknowledge the receipt of your favor of October the 29th,

which I have duly laid before the President of the United States: and

in answer thereto, I cannot but observe that some parts of its contents

were truly unexpected. On what foundation it can be supposed that

we have menaced the Creek nation with destruction during the present

autumn, or at any other time, is entirely inconceivable. Our endeavors,

on the contrary, to keep them at peace, have been earnest, persevering,

and notorious, and no expense has been spared which might attain that

object. With the same views to peace, we have suspended, now more than a

twelvemonth, the marking a boundary between them and us, which had been

fairly, freely, and solemnly established with the chiefs whom they had

deputed to treat with us on that subject: we have suspended it, I say,

in the constant hope, that taking time to consider it in the councils

of their nation, and recognising the justice and reciprocity of its

conditions, they would at length freely concur in carrying it into

execution. We agree with you, that the interests which either of us have

in the proceedings of the other with this nation of Indians, is a proper

subject of discussion at the negotiations to be opened at Madrid, and

shall accordingly give the same in charge to our commissioners there.

In the mean time, we shall continue sincerely to cultivate the peace and

prosperity of all the parties, being constant in the opinion, that this

conduct, reciprocally observed, will most increase the happiness of all.

I have the honor to be, with sentiments of great esteem and respect,

Gentlemen, your most obedient and most humble servant,

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CXXIV.--TO THE PRESIDENT, November 2,1792

TO THE PRESIDENT.

Philadelphia, November 2,1792.

Sir,

The letter of October the 29th, from Messrs. Viar and Jaudenes, not

expressing the principle on which their government interests itself

between the United States and the Creeks, I thought it of importance to

have it ascertained. I therefore called on those Gentlemen, and entered

into explanations with them. They assured me, in our conversation, that

supposing all question of boundary to be out of the case, they did not

imagine their government would think themselves authorized to take under

their protection any nations of Indians living within limits confessed

to be ours; and they presumed that any interference of theirs, with

respect to the Creeks, could only arise out of the question of disputed

territory, now existing between us: that, on this account, some part

of our treaty with the Creeks had given dissatisfaction. They said,

however, that they were speaking from their own sentiments only, having

no instructions which would authorize them to declare those of their

court: but that they expected an answer to their letters covering mine

of July the 9th (erroneously cited by them as of the 11th), from which

they would probably know the sentiments of their court. They accorded

entirely in the opinion, that it would be better that the two nations

should mutually endeavor to preserve each the peace of the other, as

well as their own, with the neighboring tribes of Indians.

I shall avail myself of the opportunity by a vessel which is to sail

in a few days, of sending proper information and instructions to

our commissioners on the subject of the late, as well as of future

interferences of the Spanish officers to our prejudice with the Indians,

and for the establishment of common rules of conduct for the two

nations.

I have the honor to be, with the most perfect respect and attachment,

Sir, your most obedient and most humble servant,

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CXXV.--TO MESSRS. CARMICHAEL AND SHORT, November 3, 1792

TO MESSRS. CARMICHAEL AND SHORT.

Philadelphia, November 3, 1792.

Gentlemen,

I wrote you on the 14th of last month; since which some other incidents

and documents have occurred, bearing relation to the subject of that

letter. I therefore now enclose you a duplicate of that letter.

Copy of a letter from the Governor of Georgia, with the deposition

it covered of a Mr. Hull, and an original passport signed by Olivier,

wherein he styles himself Commissary for his Catholic Majesty with the

Creeks.

Copy of a letter from Messrs. Viar and Jaudenes to myself, dated October

the 29th, with that of the extract of a letter of September the 24th,

from the Baron de Carondelet to them.

Copy of my answer of No. 1, to them, and copy of a letter from myself,

to the President, stating a conversation with those gentlemen.

From those papers you will find that we have been constantly

endeavoring, by every possible means, to keep peace with the Creeks;

that in order to do this, we have even suspended and still suspend the

running a fair boundary between them and us, as agreed on by themselves,

and having for its object the precise definition of their and our

lands, so as to prevent encroachment on either side, and that we have

constantly endeavored to keep them at peace with the Spanish settlements

also: that Spain on the contrary, or at least the officers of her

governments, since the arrival of the Baron de Carondelet, have

undertaken to keep an agent among the Creeks, have excited them and the

other southern Indians to commence a war against us, have furnished them

with arms and ammunition for the express purpose of carrying on that

war, and prevented the Creeks from running the boundary which would

have removed the cause of difference from between us. Messrs. Viar and

Jaudenes explain the ground of interference on the fact of the Spanish

claim to that territory, and on an article in our treaty with the

Creeks, putting themselves under our protection. But besides that you

already know the nullity of their pretended claim to the territory, they

had themselves set the example of endeavoring to strengthen that claim

by the treaty mentioned in the letter of the Baron de Carondelet, and

by the employment of an agent among them. The establishment of our

boundary, committed to you, will, of course, remove the grounds of all

future pretence to interfere with the Indians within our territory, and

it was to such only that the treaty of New York stipulated protection:

for we take for granted, that Spain will be ready to agree to the

principle, that neither party has a right to stipulate protection or

interference with the Indian nations inhabiting the territory of the

other. But it is extremely material also, with sincerity and good faith,

to patronize the peace of each other with the neighboring savages. We

are quite disposed to believe that the late wicked excitements to war

have proceeded from the Baron de Carondelet himself, without authority

from his court. But if so, have we not reason to expect the removal of

such an officer from our neighborhood, as an evidence of the disavowal

of his proceedings? He has produced against us a serious war. He says in

his letter, indeed, that he has suspended it. But this he has not done,

nor possibly can he do it. The Indians are more easily engaged in a

war than withdrawn from it. They have made the attack in force on our

frontiers, whether with or without his consent, and will oblige us to a

severe punishment of their aggression. We trust that you will be able

to settle principles of a friendly concert between us and Spain, with

respect to the neighboring Indians: and if not, that you will endeavor

to apprize us of what we may expect, that we may no longer be tied up

by principles, which, in that case, would be inconsistent with duty and

self-preservation.

I have the honor to be, with sentiments of perfect esteem and respect,

Gentlemen, your most obedient and most humble servant,

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CXXVI.--TO GOUVERNEUR MORRIS, November 7, 1792

TO GOUVERNEUR MORRIS.

Philadelphia, November 7, 1792.

Dear Sir,

My last to you was of the 15th of October; since which I have received

your Nos. 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7. Though mine went by a conveyance directly

to Bordeaux, and may therefore probably get safe to you, yet I think

it proper, lest it should miscarry, to repeat to you the following

paragraph from it.

I am perfectly sensible that your situation must, ere this reaches you,

have been delicate and difficult; and though the occasion is probably

over, and your part taken of necessity, so that instructions now would

be too late, yet I think it just to express our sentiments on the

subject, as a sanction of what you have probably done. Whenever the

scene became personally dangerous to you, it was proper you should leave

it, as well from personal as public motives. But what degree of danger

should be awaited, to what distance or place you should retire, are

circumstances which must rest with your own discretion, it being

impossible to prescribe them from hence. With what kind of government

you may do business, is another question. It accords with our principles

to acknowledge any government to be rightful, which is formed by the

will of the nation substantially declared. The late government was of

this kind, and was accordingly acknowledged by all the branches of ours.

So, any alteration of it which shall be made by the will of the nation

substantially declared, will doubtless be acknowledged in like manner.

With such a government every hind of business may be done. But there are

some matters which I conceive might be transacted with a government _de

facto_; such, for instance, as the reforming the unfriendly restrictions

on our commerce and navigation. Such cases you will readily distinguish

as they occur. With respect to this particular reformation of their

regulations, we cannot be too pressing for its attainment, as every

day’s continuance gives it additional firmness, and endangers its taking

root in their habits and constitution; and indeed, I think they should

be told, as soon as they are in a condition to act, that if they do

not revoke the late innovations, we must lay additional and equivalent

burthens on French ships, by name. Your conduct in the case of M. de

Bonne Carrere is approved entirely. We think it of great consequence

to the friendship of the two nations, to have a minister here, in whose

dispositions we have confidence. Congress assembled the day before

yesterday. I enclose you a paper containing the President’s speech,

whereby you will see the chief objects of the present session. Your

difficulties as to the settlements of our accounts with France and as,

to the payment of the foreign officers, will have been removed by the

letter of the Secretary of the Treasury, of which, for fear it should

have miscarried, I now enclose you a duplicate. Should a conveyance for

the present letter offer to any port of France directly, your newspapers

will accompany it. Otherwise, I shall send it through Mr. Pinckney, and

retain the newspapers as usual, for a direct conveyance.

I am, with great and sincere esteem, Dear Sir, your most obedient and

most humble servant,

Th: Jefferson.

LETTER CXXVII.--TO M. DE TERNANT, November 20, 1792

TO M. DE TERNANT.

Philadelphia, November 20, 1792.

Sir,

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