_Answer._ I acknowledge the true constitution of the church of the Jews,

and affirm that this their true constitution was the reason why they

were not to be separated from: for being a national church, ceremonial

and typical, their excommunication was either putting to death in, or

captivity out of that ceremonial Canaan. Hence Shalmaneser’s carrying the

ten tribes captive out of this land, is said to be the casting of them

out of God’s sight, 2 Kings xvii. [18,] which was their excommunication.

[Sidenote: Death and captivity in the national church, typed out

spiritual death and captivity in the particular.]

Accordingly in the particular Christian churches, Christ Jesus cuts

off by spiritual death, which is excommunication: or for want of due

execution of justice by that ordinance in his kingdom, he sells the

church into spiritual captivity, to confused, Babylonish lords and

worships, and so drives them out of his sight.

[Sidenote: Ceremonial uncleanness in the national church, typed out moral

uncleanness in the particular.]

Now from the consequent of this place in Haggai mine argument stands

good; and Mr. Cotton here acknowledgeth it, that holy things may be all

unclean to God’s people, when they lie in their uncleanness, as this

people did. Those scriptures, Lev. xvi. and Num. xix., which discourse of

typical and ceremonial uncleanness, he acknowledgeth to type out in the

gospel the moral uncleanness either of dead works, Eph. v. 11, or dead

persons, 2 Cor. vi. 14, or dead world, Gal. vi. 14. And in this place

of Haggai, he acknowledgeth that God’s people, prince and people, were

defiled by worldliness, in which condition, saith he, their oblations,

their bodily labours, were all unclean, and found neither acceptance nor

blessing from the Lord.

Therefore saith he afterward: “In the church godly Christians themselves,

while they attend to the world more than to the things of God, are

unclean in the sight of God; therefore the church cannot be constituted

of such; or if it be constitute of such, the people of God must separate

from them.” And, lastly, he saith, “the church of Christ and members

thereof must separate themselves from their hypocrisy, and worldliness,

else they and their duties will [still] be unclean in the sight of God,

notwithstanding their church estate.”

_Answ._ What have I more spoken than Mr. Cotton himself hath uttered in

this his explication and application of this scripture? As,

First, that godly persons may become defiled and unclean by hypocrisy and

worldliness.

[Sidenote: Mr. Cotton’s own confession concerning unclean worships, even

of godly persons.]

Secondly, while they lie in such a condition of uncleanness all their

offerings, persons, labours, are unclean in the sight of God, and have

neither acceptance nor blessing from him; but they and their duties are

unclean in his sight, notwithstanding their church estate.

Thirdly, the church of Christ cannot be constituted of such godly

persons, when defiled with such worldliness.

Fourthly, the church consisting of such worldly persons, though otherwise

godly and Christian, the people of God must separate from them.

[Sidenote: Inferences from Master Cotton’s grant.]

These are Mr. Cotton’s own express words which justify:[257]

First, my former distinction of godly persons in their personal respect,

between God and themselves; and yet becoming ungodly in their outward

defilements.

Secondly, they justify my assertion of a necessity of cleansing from

anti-christian filthiness, and communions with dead works, dead worships,

dead persons in God’s worship, if the touches of the dead world, or

immoderate love of it, do so defile, as Mr. Cotton here affirmeth.

Thirdly, if, as he saith, the church cannot be constituted of such godly

persons as are defiled by immoderate love of the world, much less can

it be constituted of godly persons defiled with the dead inventions,

worships, communions of unregenerate and ungodly persons.

Fourthly, he justifies a separation from such churches, if so

constituted, or so constituting; because though worldliness be adultery

against God, James iv. [4,] yet not comparable to spiritual adultery of a

false bed of worship, ministry, &c.

CHAP. XXI.

_Mr. Cotton_ proceedeth: “The second stumbling block or offence which

you have taken at the way of these churches, is that you conceive us to

walk between Christ and anti-christ. First, in practising separation

here, and not repenting of our preaching and printing against it in our

own country. Secondly, in reproaching yourself at Salem, and others

for separation. Thirdly, in particular, that myself have conceived and

spoken, that separation is a way that God hath not prospered; yet, say

you, the truth of the church’s way depends not upon the countenance of

men, or upon outward peace and liberty.”

Unto this he answers, “that they halt not; but walk in the midst of two

extremes, the one of being defiled with the pollution of other churches,

the other of renouncing the churches for the remnant of pollutions.”

This moderation he, with ingenuous moderation, professeth he sees no

cause to repent of, &c.

_Answ._ With the Lord’s gracious assistance, we shall prove this middle

walking to be no less than halting; for which we shall show cause of

repentance, beseeching Him that is a Prince and a Saviour to give

repentance unto his Israel, Acts v. 31.

First, Mr. Cotton himself confesseth, that no national, provincial,

diocesan, or parish church, wherein some truly godly are not, are true

churches. Secondly, he practiseth no church estate, but such as is

constituted only of godly persons, nor admitteth any unregenerate or

ungodly person.[258] Thirdly, he confesseth a church of Christ cannot be

constituted of such godly persons who are in bondage to the inordinate

love of the world. Fourthly, if a church consist of such, God’s people

ought to separate from them.[259]

[Sidenote: Mr. Cotton extenuates and minceth the root, mass, and

substance of the matter of national churches, which he acknowledgeth

to be unregenerate, not yet born again, by naming only a remnant of

pollutions. The estate of the godly mingled with the ungodly in worships.

The state of men must be faithfully discovered unto them.]

Upon these his own confessions, I earnestly beseech Mr. Cotton, and

all that fear God, to ponder how he can say he walks with an even foot

between two extremes, when, according to his own confession, national

churches, parish churches, yea, a church constituted of godly persons

given to inordinate love of the world, are false and to be separated

from: and yet he will not have the parish church to be separated from

for the remnant of pollution, I conceive he meaneth ceremonies and

bishops, notwithstanding that he also acknowledged that the generality

of every parish in England consisteth of unregenerate persons, and of

thousands inbondaged, not only to worldliness, but also ignorance,

superstition, scoffing, swearing, cursing, whoredom, drunkenness, theft,

lying. What are two or three or more of regenerate and godly persons in

such communions, but as two or three roses or lilies in a wilderness? a

few grains of good corn in a heap of chaff? a few sheep among herds of

wolves or swine, or (if more civil) flocks of goats? a little good dough

swallowed up with a whole bushel of leaven? or a little precious gold

confounded and mingled with a whole heap of dross? The Searcher of all

hearts knows I write not this to reproach any, knowing that myself am

by nature a child of wrath, and that the Father of mercies shows mercy

to whom and when he will; but for the name of Christ Jesus, in loving

faithfulness to my countrymen’s souls, and [in] defence of truth, I

remember my worthy adversary of that state and condition from which his

confessions say he must separate, his practice in gathering of churches

seems to say he doth separate; and yet he professeth there are but some

remnants of pollution amongst them, for which he dares not separate.[260]

CHAP. XXII.

_Mr. Cotton._ “Secondly,” saith he, “I know no man that reproacheth Salem

for their separation, nor do I believe that they do separate; howsoever,

if any do reproach them for it, I think it a sin meet to be censured,

but not with so deep a censure as to excommunicate all the churches, or

to separate from them before it do appear that they do tolerate their

members in such their causeless reproachings. We confess the errors of

men are to be contended against, not with reproaches, but the sword of

the Spirit; but on the other side, the failings of the churches are not

forthwith to be healed by separation. It is not chirurgery but butchery

to heal every sore in a member with no other but abscission from the

body.”

_Answ._ The church of Salem was known to profess separation, and was

generally and publicly reproached, and I could mention a case wherein she

was punished for it implicitly.[261]

[Sidenote: Mr. Cotton seems to be both for and yet against separation.]

Mr. Cotton here confesseth these two things, which I leave to himself

to reconcile with his former profession here and elsewhere against

separation. First, saith he, if any reproach them for separation

it is a sin meet to be censured. Secondly, the churches themselves

may be separated from, who tolerate their members in such causeless

reproachings. In these latter passages he seems, as in other his

confessions and practices mentioned to be for it, sensible of shame,

disgrace, or reproach to be cast on it.

[Sidenote: Mr. Cotton’s own confessions are sufficient answers to

himself.]

I grant with him the failings of churches are not forthwith to be healed

by separation; yet himself, within a few lines, confesseth there is a

lawful separation from churches that do but tolerate their members in

causeless reproaches.

[Sidenote: Not for a sore of infirmity, but a leprosy or gangrene of

obstinacy, ought a person to be cut off. Mr. Cotton deeply guilty of

cruelty both against consciences and bodies in persecuting of them, yet

cries out against the appearance of due severity in the church of Christ.]

I confess also that it is not chirurgery but butchery, to heal every sore

with no other medicine but with abscission from the body: yet himself

confesseth before, that even churches of godly persons must be separated

from, for immoderate worldliness: and again here he confesseth they

may be separated from, when they tolerate their members in such their

causeless reproachings. Beside, it is not every sore of infirmity or

ignorance, but an ulcer or gangrene of obstinacy, for which I maintained

that a person ought to be cut off, or a church separated from. But if

he call that butchery, conscientiously and peaceably to separate from a

spiritual communion of a church or society, what shall it be called by

the second Adam, the Lord Jesus, who gives names to all creatures and all

actions, to cut off persons, them and theirs, branch and root, from any

civil being in their territories; and consequently from the whole world,

were their territories so large, because their consciences dare not bow

down to any worship but what they believe the Lord Jesus appointed, and

being also otherwise subject to the civil state and laws thereof.[262]

CHAP. XXIII.

Thirdly, whereas I urged a speech of his own, _viz._ that God had not

prospered the way of separation, and conceives that I understood him

of outward prosperity: he affirms the puritans to have been worse used

in England than the separatist, and thus writes: “The meeting of the

separatists may be known to the officers in court and winked at, when the

conventicles of the puritans, as they call them, shall be hunted out with

all diligence, and pursued with more violence than any law can justify.”

[Sidenote: God’s controversy for persecution.]

_Answer._ Doubtless the controversy of God hath been great with this

land, that either of both have been so violently pursued and persecuted.

I believe they are both the witnesses of several truths of Jesus Christ,

against an impenitent and unchristian profession of the name of the Lord

Jesus.

[Sidenote: The sufferings of the separatists and puritans in England

compared. Mr. Udall, Mr. Penry, Mr. Barrow, Mr. Greenwood.]

Now for their sufferings: as the puritans have not comparably suffered,

as but seldom congregating in separate assemblies from the common,[263]

so have not any of them suffered unto death for the way of nonconformity

to ceremonies, &c. Indeed the worthy witness Mr. Udall,[264] was near

unto death for his witness against bishops and ceremonies;[265] but Mr.

Penry,[266] Mr. Barrow, Mr. Greenwood followed the Lord Jesus with their

gibbets on their shoulders, and were hanged with him and for him, in the

way of separation:[267] many more have been condemned to die, banished

and choaked in prisons, I could produce upon occasion.

[Sidenote: Few conscientious separatists, but first were puritans. The

nonconformist’s grounds enforce separation.]

Again, I believe that there hardly hath ever been a conscientious

separatist, who was not first a puritan: for, as Mr. Canne hath

unanswerably proved,[268] the grounds and principles of the puritans

against bishops and ceremonies, and profaneness of people professing

Christ, and the necessity of Christ’s flock and discipline, must

necessarily, if truly followed, lead on to and enforce a separation from

such ways, worships, and worshippers, to seek out the true way of God’s

worship according to Christ Jesus.

But what should be the reason, since the separatist witnesseth against

the root of the church constitution itself, that yet he should find, as

Mr. Cotton saith, more favour than the puritan or nonconformist?

[Sidenote: Most of the separation of the lower sort of people.]

Doubtless the reasons are evident: first, most of God’s servants who,

out of sight of the ignorance, unbelief, and profaneness of the body of

the national church, have separated and durst not have longer fellowship

with it:—I say, most of them have been poor and low, and not such gainful

customers to the bishops, their courts and officers.

[Sidenote: The poverty of Mr. Ainsworth. The nonconformists have been a

fair booty for bishops.]

That worthy instrument of Christ’s praise, Mr. Ainsworth, during some

time, and some time of his great labours in Holland, lived upon ninepence

per week, with roots boiled, &c.[269] Whereas on the other side, such of

God’s servants as have been nonconformists have had fair estates, been

great persons, have had rich livings and benefices, of which the bishops

and theirs, like greedy wolves, have made the more desirable prey.

[Sidenote: The separatists have been professed enemies; but the puritans

in many things professed friends and subjects to the bishops.]

Secondly, it is a principle in nature to prefer a professed enemy, before

a pretended friend. Such as have separated have been looked at by the

bishops and theirs, as known and professed enemies: whereas the puritans

professed subjection, and have submitted to the bishops, their courts,

their officers, their common prayer and worships: and yet, as the bishops

have well known, with no greater affection than the Israelites bore their

Egyptian cruel taskmasters.

[Sidenote: Mr. Cotton.]

He saith, “God hath not prospered the way of separation with peace

amongst themselves, and growth of grace.”

[Sidenote: A false church may enforce a present peace greater (though

false) grace than the true spouse of Christ Jesus. God’s people have

found infinite sweetness and peace in some times of their holy communion.

Breaches have been and must be among all God’s people, to make them

celebrate the Lord’s holy ordinances according to due order.]

_Answer._ The want of peace may befal the truest churches of the Lord

Jesus [as] at Antioch, Corinth, Galatia, who were exercised with great

distractions. Secondly, it is a common character of a false church,

maintained by the smith’s and cutler’s shop, to enjoy a quiet calm and

peaceable tranquillity, none daring, for fear of civil punishment, to

question, object, or differ from the common road and custom. Thus sings

that great whore, the anti-christian church, Rev. xviii. [7,] _I sit as

a queen, am no widow, see no sorrow_: while Christ’s dearest complains

she is forsaken, sits weeping as a widow, Lam. i. [1.] Thirdly, God’s

people in that way, have sometimes long enjoyed sweet peace and soul

contentment in England, Holland, New England, and other places, and

would not have exchanged a day of such an holy and peaceable harmony for

thousands in the courts of princes, seeing no other, and in sincerity

seeking after the Lord Jesus. And yet, I humbly conceive, that as David

with the princes, and thirty thousand Israelites, carrying the ark on the

shoulders of the oxen, leaped and danced with great rejoicing, until God

smote Uzzah for his error and disorder, and made a breach, and a teaching

monument of Perez Uzzah, the breach of Uzzah: so in like manner all those

celebrations of the spiritual ark or ordinances, which yet I have known,

although for the present accompanied with great rejoicing and triumphing,

yet as they have not been after the due order, so have they all met with,

and still must, a Perez Uzzah, breaches and divisions, until the Lord

Jesus discover, direct, and encourage his servants in his own due holy

order and appointment.

[Sidenote: Many graceless Judases amongst God’s people. Multitudes of

gracious and holy persons that have professed separation.]

And for growth in grace, notwithstanding that amongst all sorts of

God’s witnesses some false brethren creep in as cheaters, and spies,

and Judases, dishonouring the name of Christ Jesus, and betraying his

witnesses: yet Satan himself, the accuser of the saints, cannot but

confess that multitudes of God’s witnesses, reproached with the names of

Brownists, and anabaptists, have kept themselves from the error of the

wicked, and grow in grace and knowledge of the Lord Jesus, endeavouring

to cleanse themselves from all filthiness both of flesh and spirit, and

to finish holiness in the fear of God. I will not make odious and envious

comparisons, but desire that all that name the name of the Lord Jesus

may depart wholly and for ever from iniquity.

CHAP. XXIV.

[Sidenote: Mr. Cotton.]

Lastly he addeth, “That such as erring through simplicity and tenderness,

have grown in grace, have grown also to discern their lawful liberty in

the hearing of the word from English preachers.”[270]

[Sidenote: Four sorts of backsliders from separation far from growth in

grace.]

_Answer._ I will not question the uprightness of some who have gone

back from many truths of God which they have professed: yet mine own

experience of four sorts who have backslidden I shall report, for a

warning to all into whose hands these may come, to be like Antipas, Rev.

ii. [13,] a faithful witness to the death, to any of the truths of the

Lord Jesus, which he shall please to betrust them with:

[Sidenote: Some backsliding turn to familism.]

First, I have known no small number of such turn to absolute Familism,

and under their pretences of great raptures of love deny all obedience

to, or seeking after the pure ordinances and appointments of the Lord

Jesus.

[Sidenote: Some to profaneness.]

Secondly, others have laid the reins upon the necks of their consciences,

and like the dog licked up their vomit of former looseness and

profaneness of lip and life; and have been so far from growing in grace,

that they have turned the grace of God into wantonness.

[Sidenote: Some to persecuting of others.]

Thirdly, others backsliding have lost the beauty and shining of a tender

conscience toward God, and of a merciful compassion toward men, becoming

most fierce persecutors of their own formerly fellow-witnesses, and of

any other who have differed in conscience from them.

[Sidenote: Some to languishing in sorrow and sadness, &c.]

Lastly, others although preserved from familism, profaneness, and

persecuting of others, yet the leaf of their Christian course hath

withered, the latter beauty and savour of their holiness hath not been

like their former; and they have confessed and do, their sin, their

weakness, their bondage, and wish they were at liberty in their former

freedom; and some have gone with little peace, but sorrow to their

graves, confessing to myself and others, that God never prospered them,

in soul or body, since they sold away his truth, which once they had

bought and made profession of it never to sell it.

CHAP. XXV.

[Sidenote: Mr. Cotton.]

Yea; but, saith he, “they have grown to discern their lawful liberty, to

return to the hearing of the word from English preachers.”

[Sidenote: Mr. Canne’s answer to Mr. Robinson’s liberty of hearing.]

_Answer._ Here I might engage myself in a controversy, which neither

this treatise will permit, nor is there need, since it hath pleased the

Father of lights to stir up the spirit of a faithful witness of his truth

in this particular, Mr. Canne, to make a large and faithful reply to a

book, printed in Mr. Robinson’s name, tending to prove such a lawful

liberty.[271]

[Sidenote: Mr. Cotton’s confession concerning the ministry.]

For such excellent and worthy persons whom Mr. Cotton here intends by

the name of English preachers, I acknowledge myself unworthy to hold

the candle to them: yet I shall humbly present what Mr. Cotton himself

professeth in three particulars:

First, concerning this title, English preachers.

Secondly, hearing the word from such English preachers.

Thirdly, the lawful calling of such to the ministry or service, according

to Christ Jesus.

[Sidenote: ποίμενες διδασκαλοὶ ἐπισκοποὶ πρεσβυτεροὶ Matt. xxviii.

μαθητέυειν. Preachers and pastors far different.]

For the first, he acknowledgeth, that the ordinary ministers of the

gospel are pastors, teachers, bishops, overseers, elders, and that

their proper work is to feed and govern a truly converted, holy, and

godly people, gathered into a flock or church estate; and not properly

preachers to convert, beget, make disciples, which the apostles and

evangelists professedly were. Now then, that man that professeth himself

a minister, and professeth to feed a flock or church with the ordinances

of word and prayer, he must needs acknowledge that his proper work is not

to preach for conversion, which is most preposterous amongst a converted

Christian people, fed up with ordinances in church estate. So that,

according to Mr. Cotton’s confession, English preachers are not pastors,

teachers, bishops, elders, but preachers of glad news, evangelists, men

sent to convert, and gather churches, apostles, ambassadors, trumpeters,

with proclamation from the King of kings, to convert, subdue, bring in

rebellious, unconverted, unbelieving, unchristian souls to the obedience

and subjection of the Lord Jesus.

[Sidenote: Conversion in a church accidental.]

I readily confess that at the pastor’s, or shepherd’s feeding of his

flock, and the prophet’s prophecying in the church, an unbeliever coming

in is convinced, falls on his face and acknowledgeth God to be there:

yet this is accidental that any unbeliever should come in; and the

pastor’s work is to feed his flock, Acts xx. [28,] and prophecy is not

for unbelievers, but for them that believe, to edify, exhort, and comfort

the church, 1 Cor. xiv. 3, 22.

[Sidenote: Personal repentance wrought in thousands by godly persons in

popish ministries.]

I also readily acknowledge, that it hath pleased God to work a personal

repentance in the hearts of thousands in Germany, England, Low Countries,

France, Scotland, Ireland, &c., yea, and who knows but in Italy, Spain,

Rome, not only by such men who decline the name of bishops, priests,

deacons, the constituted ministry of England hitherto; but also by

such as have owned them, as Luther remaining a monk, and famous holy

men remaining and burning Lord Bishops. For all this hath been under

the notion of ministers feeding their flocks, not of preachers sent to

convert the unconverted and unbelieving.

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