It surprised me a little that he said nothing of the remarks he had

desired me to make on M. Gardoqui's going to America, especially as he

had appointed this meeting for that purpose. To give him further time,

I started a new subject, and begged he would take the earliest

opportunity of completing the business of the Dover cutter.

Notwithstanding all that had before passed between us about this

affair, he affected to be very ignorant of it, and asked me a number

of questions. I recapitulated the circumstances of the capture, my

several applications to him on the subject, his promise finally to

order the prize to be appraised, and the value to be paid to the

captors, the arrival of one of them at Madrid, &c. &c. He replied,

with some degree of quickness and perplexity, that it was not a lawful

prize, the crew not having authority to do what they did; that he had

sent to the Canaries for particular information respecting the value,

&c. that two of the packet boats had been taken; that he would pay

some gratuity to the captors, and wished I would give him another

state of the whole case in writing, to refresh his memory, which I

promised to do, and have since done.

He then resumed the subject of the letter, which I expected from

Congress. He expressed his regret at its not having arrived, said he

was preparing instructions for M. Gardoqui, who would certainly depart

in June, and that until I could give him precise information of the

dispositions of Congress, he could not enter into any further

conversations on the subject of the proposed treaty. I joined in

regretting the miscarriage of my public letter, and the more so, as my

private ones gave me reason to expect instructions, which would enable

me to comply so far with his Majesty's views, as that I hoped no

further delays would intervene to prevent a perfect union between

Spain and the United States. That my correspondence had given me to

understand that Congress viewed the speedy accomplishment of this

union as very important to the common cause; and, therefore, if Spain

would consent forthwith to come into it, in that case they would

gratify his Majesty by ceding to him the navigation of the

Mississippi, below their territories, on reasonable terms.

He replied, that he earnestly desired to see all difficulties on this

point removed, but that the treaties subsisting between Spain and

other nations, as well as the particular policy and determination of

Spain, rendered it necessary that she should possess the exclusive

navigation of the Gulf of Mexico. After a variety of other remarks of

little importance, he made a very interesting observation, which will

help us to account for the delays of the Court, viz. That all these

affairs could with more facility be adjusted at a general peace than

now, for that such a particular, and even secret treaty with us might

then be made, as would be very convenient to both. That he

nevertheless wished to know exactly the views and intentions of

Congress, but that I must wait for the arrival of my letters, and that

he would in the meantime finish M. Gardoqui's instructions, whose

going to America, he did not doubt, would make a useful impression on

the English Court. I was beginning to reply to what he said when he

interrupted me, by mentioning his not having time at present to

prolong the conference.

Throughout the whole of this conversation, the Count appeared much

less cordial than in the preceding one; he seemed to want

self-possession, and to that cause I ascribe his incautiously

mentioning the general peace as the most proper season for completing

our political connexions. I had, nevertheless, no reason to suspect

that this change in his behavior arose from any cause more important

than those variations in temper and feelings, which they, who are

unaccustomed to govern themselves often experience from changes in the

weather, in their health, from fatigue of business, or other such like

accidental causes.

As I had not as yet received any letter from the President, either by

the Virginia, or the vessel lately arrived at L'Orient, nor by Colonel

Laurens, who, I was informed, had brought letters for me, I concluded

it would be most prudent to wait ten days, or a fortnight, before I

proceeded to act on the copy of my instruction received from Mr

Lovell, expecting that such other letters as might then have arrived

in France or Spain for me, would reach me in the course of that

interval, if at all. And I determined, in case I should receive none,

to proceed, without further loss of time, to make a formal overture to

the Minister for a treaty on the ground of this instruction. It

happened, however, that the Minister was so occupied during the

remaining time that the Court staid at Aranjues, by the expedition

preparing to sail from Cadiz, under the Duke of Crillon, and other

matters, that it was impossible to engage a moment of his attention to

American affairs. The removal of the Court to Madrid necessarily

consumed some time, and as soon as they were well settled there, I

wrote the Count the following letter; none of the letters expected

from America having come to my hands.

TO THE COUNT DE FLORIDA BLANCA.

Madrid, July 2d, 1781.

"Sir,

"When Congress were pleased to order me to Spain, with the

commission of which I have had the honor of presenting a copy

to your Excellency, I left my country with the most sanguine

expectations, that the important objects of it would be

speedily accomplished. The proofs they had received of his

Majesty's friendship for them, the interests of a common

cause, and the information they had received from persons

whom they conceived in capacity to give it, all conspired to

infuse these hopes.

"On my arrival, your Excellency gave me to understand, that

the realising these expectations would turn on one point, and

I have uniformly since been informed, that this point was the

navigation of the Mississippi below the territories of the

United States, in which Congress desired to retain a common

right, but of which the maxims of policy adopted by his

Majesty required the exclusive use.

"I have now the honor of informing your Excellency, that

Congress, in order to manifest in the most striking manner

the sincerity of their professions to his Majesty, and with a

view that the common cause may immediately reap all the

advantages naturally to be expected from a cordial and

permanent union between France, Spain, and the United States,

have authorised me to agree to such terms relative to the

point in question, as to remove the difficulties to which it

has hitherto given occasion.

"Permit me, therefore, to hope, that his Majesty will now be

pleased to become the ally of the United States, and for that

purpose authorise some person or persons to adjust with me

the several points of compact necessary to form a union,

which, by being founded on mutual interest, may be no less

satisfactory than it certainly will be important to both

countries.

"Your Excellency will oblige me exceedingly, by putting it in

my power to give Congress early, explicit, and, let me add,

agreeable information of his Majesty's pleasure and

intentions on the subject of this letter.

"I have the honor to be, &c.

JOHN JAY."

Although it was sufficiently evident, that the Court of France could

not, for the reasons assigned in my letter to Congress, of the 6th of

November, 1780, openly and warmly interpose their good offices to

bring about this treaty, it nevertheless appeared to me most prudent,

to behave on this occasion towards the Ambassador, as if I knew

nothing of those reasons, and, therefore, sent him a copy of the

aforegoing letter to the Minister, enclosed in one of which the

following is a copy.

TO THE COUNT DE MONTMORIN.

"Madrid, July 2d, 1781.

"Sir,

"I have the honor of transmitting to your Excellency herewith

enclosed, a copy of a letter I have this day written to his

Excellency, the Count de Florida Blanca. I have thereby

informed him of my being authorised to remove the objections

hitherto made by the Court of Spain to a treaty of alliance

with the United States, and again requested that the

measures necessary for the purpose may now be taken.

"Permit me to request, that the favorable interposition of

our kind and generous ally with his Catholic Majesty may be

exerted to commence the proposed negotiation, and bring it to

a speedy and happy conclusion.

"The confidence justly reposed by America in the amity and

assurances of his Most Christian Majesty, forbid me to urge

this request by any arguments, (persuasives being indelicate,

when not warranted by doubts of inclination.) I am happy in

reflecting, that his instructions on this subject are

committed to the execution of a Minister, from whose

attachment, as well as from whose talents and address, the

American cause may expect to derive advantage.

"I have the honor to be, &c.

JOHN JAY."

The instructions above alluded to are those, which Count de Vergennes,

in his letter to me of the 13th of March, 1780, assures me should be

sent to their Ambassador here. I must confess to Congress, that I very

much doubt his ever having received any other instructions, than

generally to favor the treaty, and to manage his interference in such

a delicate manner, as, without alarming the pride of Spain, to give

both parties reason to think themselves obliged.

The French Ambassador sent me no answer to this letter, which, in my

opinion, gives a greater degree of probability to my conjectures. I

must, nevertheless, do him the justice to say that I have great reason

to believe him to be in sentiment, and with sincere attachment, a

friend to our cause; and that he considers the honor and interest of

France deeply concerned in the success and support of it.

On the 11th of July, having received no answer from the Minister, I

waited upon him. He told me, he had received my letter, but that the

short time the Court would remain at Madrid, and the multiplicity of

business that he was obliged to despatch, would not admit of his

attending to our affairs till after the arrival of the Court at St

Ildefonso. He then informed me, that a vessel had arrived at Cadiz,

which had brought despatches for me, and that his courier had brought

them to Madrid. He then delivered me a number of letters, among which

was one from his Excellency the President, of the 28th of May

last.[32]

I need not observe, that all these letters bore evident marks of

inspection, for that has uniformly been the case with almost every

letter I have received.

I do not recollect to have ever received a letter that gave me more

real pleasure. When I considered, that almost the whole time since I

left America had afforded me little else than one continued series of

painful perplexities and embarrassments, many of which I neither

expected, nor ought to have met with; that I had been engaged in

intricate and difficult negotiations, often at a loss to determine

where the line of prudence was to be found, and constantly exposed by

my particular situation to the danger of either injuring the dignity

and interest of my country on the one hand, or trespassing on the

overrated respectability and importance of this Court, on the other; I

say, Sir, that on considering these things, the approbation of

Congress gave me most singular and cordial satisfaction.

I was also happy to perceive from this letter, that the plan of my

late letters to the Minister and French Ambassador, of the 2d of July,

above recited, happens to correspond exactly with the views of

Congress, respecting the manner of conducting this negotiation.

It appearing to me, that the communication I was directed to make to

this Court could not be better made than in the very words of this

letter, which seemed exceedingly well calculated for the purpose, I

recited them in a letter, which I wrote two days afterwards to the

Minister, viz.

TO THE COUNT DE FLORIDA BLANCA.

Madrid, July 13th, 1781.

"Sir,

"I have now the honor of communicating to your Excellency a

copy of certain instructions I have just received from

Congress, dated the 28th of May, 1781, and which were

included in the despatches, which your Excellency was so

obliging as to deliver to me the evening before the last,

viz.

"It is their instruction, that you continue to acknowledge on

all suitable occasions, the grateful impression made on these

States by the friendly disposition manifested towards them by

his Catholic Majesty, and particularly by the proofs given of

it in the measures which he has taken, and which it is hoped

he will further take for preserving their credit, and for

aiding them with a supply of clothing for their army.

"You are also authorised and instructed to disavow in the

most positive and explicit terms, any secret understanding or

negotiation between the United States and Great Britain, to

assure his Catholic Majesty that such insinuations have no

other source than the insidious designs of the common enemy,

and that as the United States have the highest confidence in

the honor and good faith, both of his Most Christian and his

Catholic Majesty, so it is their inviolable determination to

take no step, which shall depart in the smallest degree from

their engagements with either.'

"It gives me pleasure to observe that these instructions

confirm, in the fullest manner, the assurances and

professions I have heretofore made to your Excellency

respecting the sentiments and dispositions of the United

States, and I flatter myself that his Majesty will be pleased

to consider the assurances they contain, as receiving

unquestionable proofs of sincerity from the offer I have

already made to confirm them by deeds, no less important to

the interests than, I hope, consistent with the views and

desires of his Majesty.

"I cannot omit this occasion of presenting my congratulations

on the success of his Majesty's arms at Pensacola. This event

cannot fail of being followed by important consequences to

the common cause, and may perhaps induce the enemy to expect

greater advantages from concluding a reasonable peace, than

continuing to protract an unrighteous war.

"Having understood, shortly after receiving my letters from

your Excellency, that the Court had also received despatches

from Philadelphia, I presumed that the communication of any

gazettes from thence, which indeed contain all the

intelligence I have, would be useless, and therefore did not

send them; but on considering that it was possible that the

papers I had might be of later date than those which your

Excellency might otherwise receive, I now take the liberty of

enclosing two, which contain accounts somewhat interesting.

If they should be new to your Excellency, I beg that their

not being sooner sent will receive an apology from the

abovementioned circumstance; and that your Excellency will

remain assured of the perfect respect and consideration with

which I have the honor to be, &c.

JOHN JAY."

I also took the earliest opportunity of mentioning to the Ambassador

of France, that my letters from America gave me reason to believe that

our union was daily growing more warm and intimate, and that Congress,

in writing of their affairs here, had expressed themselves in the

strongest terms of attachment to his Most Christian Majesty, and not

only approved of my communicating freely and confidentially with his

Ambassador here, but also directed me in express terms to endeavor, in

the course of my negotiations, to include and promote the interests of

France.

The Ambassador was much pleased. He told me his letters assured him

that the best understanding subsisted between the French and American

troops, and that much good might be expected from the increasing

harmony and intercourse between the two countries.

The Court removed to St Ildefonso without the Minister's having either

given any instructions to M. Gardoqui, answered my abovementioned

letters, or taken the least notice of my late representations to them

about the Dover cutter, &c.

The events of the campaign were as yet undecided, and little money in

the treasury.

On the 21st of July the Minister wrote me the following note, in which

there was ample field left open for procrastination.

Translation.

"The Count de Florida Blanca presents his compliments to Mr

Jay, and has the honor of acquainting him, that he has duly

received his two letters of the 2d and 13th instant. The

short stay of the Court at Madrid allowing time only to

despatch the most pressing business, the Count de Florida

Blanca has not been able to take into consideration the

points, which form the object of the abovementioned letters.

He proposes therefore to do it at present, in order to render

an account thereof to the King, and in the meanwhile he has

the honor to repeat to Mr Jay the assurances of the most

perfect esteem and consideration.

"_St Ildefonso, July 21st, 1781._"

On the 4th of August, I arrived here. I did not see the Minister till

the 8th, he being, as I was told, from home. He had made no

communications to the King. He had been sick; he had been busy, and

was so still. I requested to be informed when it would be most

convenient to him to confer with me on the subject of my late letters,

and to give me such information relative to his Majesty's intentions,

as he might be prepared to communicate to me. He answered, that he

could not then fix a time, being exceedingly hurried by pressing

business. He asked how long I proposed to stay, I told him till the

Court removed. He then promised to take an early opportunity of

conferring with me on the subject of our affairs, and promised to send

me word when he should be ready to receive me.

I remained in this state of suspense and expectation until the 18th of

August, when having been for a week past very much indisposed with a

fever and dysentery, and fearing lest that circumstance might become a

ground of delay, I wrote the Count word, "that my health would permit

me to wait upon his Excellency at any time and place he might do me

the honor to name." He replied two days afterwards, in a manner which

indicated his supposing I had gone to Madrid and had returned. He must

have known better, for none of my family had been absent from hence,

and one or other of them were almost daily about the palace and

gardens.

Translation.

"The Count de Florida Blanca is charmed to learn, that Mr Jay

has sufficiently recovered from his last indisposition to

make the journey from Madrid to this place, and thanks him

for his attention in communicating it to him.

"The very pressing business with which he finds himself at

present surrounded does not permit him to fix the day for a

conference with Mr Jay, but the moment he shall be a little

disengaged, he will have the honor to advise Mr Jay of it.

"_St Ildefonso, August 20th, 1781._"

On the 22d I sent him a note enclosing a newspaper, which contained an

account of General Greene's operations, the capture of Fort Watson,

&c.

The Count answered this note by another, expressing his thanks for the

intelligence, but not a word of a conference.

On the 30th of August Major Franks arrived here with interesting

despatches, of which I must not here take notice, lest I interrupt

the thread of this letter, which I devote particularly to the affair

of our negotiations for a treaty.

There was indeed among these despatches a very sensible letter from Mr

R. Morris to me about money matters,[33] &c. excellently well

calculated for being shown entire to the Minister.

I consulted with the French Ambassador on the propriety of giving the

Minister a copy of it. He advised me to do it, and much commended the

letter. As it might have suffered from being carelessly translated, I

had it put into very good French.

I was very glad to see the Major. The nature of the despatches he

brought being a secret occasioned speculation, and gave me an

opportunity of drawing further advantages from his arrival. His

accounts of American affairs were favorable to us, and the manner of

his behavior and conversation has not done discredit to himself, nor

prejudice to his country.

The Ambassador of France having assured me that the Minister had

really been a good deal indisposed, I thought it would be best to

write him a letter in a style somewhat adapted to his situation. He

certainly appears to be fatigued, and worn down by business. He looks

as I have seen some members of Congress look, after two years'

attendance.

TO THE COUNT DE FLORIDA BLANCA.

"St Ildefonso, September 3d, 1781.

"Sir,

"When I consider that the delicate state of your Excellency's

health demands a greater degree of leisure and relaxation,

than the various business of your office will permit, it is

with great reluctance, that I can prevail upon myself to

remind your Excellency, that since our conference at

Aranjues, the affairs of the United States at this Court have

made no progress.

"The short residence of his Majesty at Madrid, I am

persuaded, made it necessary to postpone the discussion of

these affairs to this place; and since my arrival here on the

4th of August last, I have daily flattered myself with being

enabled to communicate to Congress his Majesty's pleasure on

the important subjects, which by their order I have had the

honor of laying before your Excellency.

"It has also for some time past been my duty to have

requested your Excellency's attention to some other objects,

which, though of less public importance, are nevertheless

interesting to individuals, as well as to the commercial

intercourse of the two countries, but it did not appear to be

consistent with the respect due to your Excellency to solicit

your attention to new objects, while this former remained

undespatched for want of time.

"It would give me great pleasure to have it in my power to

regulate all my applications by your Excellency's

convenience, and though I am happy to see the connexion

between our two countries daily increasing, yet as that

circumstance will naturally render necessary applications to

government more frequent, I fear the duties of my situation

will often press me to be troublesome to your Excellency.

"On Friday evening last I received some important despatches

from Congress, which I shall do myself the honor of

communicating at any time, which your Excellency may be

pleased to name. The gentleman who brought them, will after

passing on to Paris, return immediately to Philadelphia, and

will with pleasure execute any orders which your Excellency

may honor him with, for either of those places. His stay here

will be but short. As soon as I can ascertain the day of his

departure, your Excellency shall have immediate notice of it.

As Congress will naturally expect to receive by him

particular information respecting their affairs here, I

cannot forbear expressing how anxious I am to make him the

bearer of welcome tidings; and permit me to hope, that your

Excellency's sensibility will suggest an apology for the

solicitude which appears in this letter.

"I have the honor to be, with great respect, &c.

JOHN JAY."

On the 5th, I received the following answer, viz.

Translation.

"The Count de Florida Blanca has been much mortified not to

be able to receive the visit of Mr Jay, not only on account

of the too pressing business, which has engaged all his time,

but also by reason of the indisposition he has suffered, and

still suffers.

"Although he be not in a situation to engage in long and

serious conferences for the reasons abovementioned, he will,

nevertheless, be charmed to converse a moment with Mr Jay,

one of those leisure evenings when there is no business with

the King; in which case, Mr Jay may, if he thinks proper,

bring with him the officer in question.

"Saturday, for instance, towards eight o'clock, the interview

may take place."

_Wednesday, the 5th of September._

Your Excellency will be pleased to observe, that the Minister in the

above note intimates a desire that I should bring Major Franks with

me. I thought it best to do so; but lest his presence should be a

check upon business, and as it was natural to suppose, that the Count

would begin by asking him questions about our affairs, I desired the

Major to relate to him the impression made in America by that article

in the capitulation of Pensacola, which permitted the garrison to go

to New York. I also desired the Major to retire into the ante-chamber

and leave me alone with the Minister, as soon as the latter should

appear to have finished with him.

At the time appointed, viz. the evening of the 8th of September, we

waited upon the Minister.

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