In the thirty-second chapter of Exodus, is the ac-

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count of the golden calf. It must be borne in mind

that the worship of this calf by the people was before

the Ten Commandments had been given to them.

Christians now insist that these commandments must

have been inspired, because no human being could

have constructed them,--could have conceived of

them.

It seems, according to this account, that Moses had

been up in the mount with God, getting the Ten Com-

mandments, and that while he was there the people

had made the golden calf. When he came down and

saw them, and found what they had done, having in

his hands the two tables, the work of God, he cast

the tables out of his hands, and broke them beneath

the mount. He then took the calf which they had

made, ground it to powder, strewed it in the water,

and made the children of Israel drink of it. And in the

twenty-seventh verse we are told what the Lord did:

"Thus saith the Lord God of Israel: Put every man

"his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate

"to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man

"his brother, and every man his companion, and

"every man his neighbor. And the children of Levi

"did according to the word of Moses; and there fell

"of the people that day about three thousand men."

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The reason for this slaughter is thus given: "For

"Moses had said: Consecrate yourselves to-day to

"the Lord, even every man upon his son, and upon

" his brother, that he may bestow upon you a blessing

"this day."

Now, it must be remembered that there had not

been as yet a promulgation of the commandment

u Thou shalt have no other gods before me." This

was a punishment for the infraction of a law before

the law was known--before the commandment had

been given. Was it cruel, or unjust?

Does the following sound as though spoken by a

God of mercy: "I will make mine arrows drunk

"with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh"?

And yet this is but a small part of the vengeance and

destruction which God threatens to his enemies, as

recorded in the thirty-second chapter of the book of

Deuteronomy.

In the sixty-eighth Psalm is found this merciful

passage: "That thy foot may be dipped in the blood

"of thine enemies, and the tongue of thy dogs in the

"same.

So we find in the eleventh chapter of Joshua the

reason why the Canaanites and other nations made

war upon the Jews. It is as follows: "For it was of

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"the Lord to harden their hearts that they should

"come against Israel in battle, that he might destroy

"them utterly, and that they might have no favor, but

"that he might destroy them."

Read the thirtieth chapter of Exodus and you will

find that God gave to Moses a recipe for making

the oil of holy anointment, and in the thirty-second

verse we find that no one was to make any oil like it

and in the next verse it is declared that whoever

compounded any like it, or whoever put any of it on

a stranger, should be cut off from the Lord's people.

In the same chapter, a recipe is given for per-

fumery, and it is declared that whoever shall make

any like it, or that smells like it, shall suffer death.

In the next chapter, it is decreed that if any one fails

to keep the Sabbath "he shall be surely put to death."

There are in the Pentateuch hundreds and hun-

dreds of passages showing the cruelty of Jehovah.

What could have been more cruel than the flood?

What more heartless than to overwhelm a world?

What more merciless than to cover a shoreless sea

with the corpses of men, women and children?

The Pentateuch is filled with anathemas, with

curses, with words of vengeance, of jealousy, of

hatred, and brutality. By reason of these passages,

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millions of people have plucked from their hearts the

flowers of pity and justified the murder of women

and the assassination of babes.

In the second chapter of Second Kings we find

that the prophet Elisha was on his way to a place

called Bethel, and as he was going, there came forth

little children out of the city and mocked him and

said: "Go up thou bald head; Go up thou bald

"head! And he turned back and looked on them

"and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And

"there came forth two she bears out of the wood and

"tare forty and two children of them."

Of course he obtained his miraculous power from

Jehovah; and there must have been some communi-

cation between Jehovah and the bears. Why did the

bears come? How did they happen to be there?

Here is a prophet of God cursing children in the

name of the Lord, and thereupon these children

are torn in fragments by wild beasts.

This is the mercy of Jehovah; and yet I am told

that the Bible has nothing cruel in it; that it preaches

only mercy, justice, charity, peace; that all hearts

are softened by reading it; that the savage nature of

man is melted into tenderness and pity by it, and that

only the totally depraved can find evil in it.

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And so I might go on, page after page, book after

book, in the Old Testament, and describe the cruelties

committed in accordance with the commands of

Jehovah.

But all the cruelties in the Old Testament are ab-

solute mercies compared with the hell of the New

Testament. In the Old Testament God stops with

the grave. He seems to have been satisfied when he

saw his enemies dead, when he saw their flesh rotting

in the open air, or in the beaks of birds, or in the teeth

of wild beasts. But in the New Testament, ven-

geance does not stop with the grave. It begins there,

and stops never. The enemies of Jehovah are to be

pursued through all the ages of eternity. There is to

be no forgiveness--no cessation, no mercy, nothing

but everlasting pain.

And yet we are told that the author of hell is a

being of infinite mercy.

_Second_; All intelligent Christians will admit that

there are many passages in the Bible that, if found in

the Koran, they would regard as impure and immoral.

It is not necessary for me to specify the passages,

nor to call the attention of the public to such things.

I am willing to trust the judgment of every honest

reader, and the memory of every biblical student.

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The Old Testament upholds polygamy. That is

infinitely impure. It sanctions concubinage. That

is impure; nothing could or can be worse. Hun-

dreds of things are publicly told that should have re-

mained unsaid. No one is made better by reading

the history of Tamar, or the biography of Lot, or

the memoirs of Noah, of Dinah, of Sarah and

Abraham, or of Jacob and Leah and Rachel and others

that I do not care to mention. No one is improved

in his morals by reading these things.

All I mean to say is, that the Bible is like other

books produced by other nations in the same stage

of civilization. What one age considers pure, the

next considers impure. What one age may consider

just, the next may look upon as infamous. Civiliza-

tion is a growth. It is continually dying, and continu-

ally being born. Old branches rot and fall, new buds

appear. It is a perpetual twilight, and a perpetual

dawn--the death of the old, and the birth of the new.

I do not say, throw away the Bible because there

are some foolish passages in it, but I say, throw away

the foolish passages. Don't throw away wisdom

because it is found in company with folly; but do not

say that folly is wisdom, because it is found in its

company. All that is true in the Bible is true whether

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it is inspired or not. All that is true did not need to

be inspired. Only that which is not true needs the

assistance of miracles and wonders. I read the Bible

as I read other books. What I believe to be good,

I admit is good; what I think is bad, I say is bad;

what I believe to be true, I say is true, and what I

believe to be false, I denounce as false.

_Third_. Let us see whether there are any contra-

dictions in the Bible.

A little book has been published, called "Self

"Contradictions of the Bible," by J. P. Mendum, of

The Boston Investigator. I find many of the apparent

contradictions of the Bible noted in this book.

We all know that the Pentateuch is filled with the

commandments of God upon the subject of sacrificing

animals. We know that God declared, again and

again, that the smell of burning flesh was a sweet

savor to him. Chapter after chapter is filled with direc-

tions how to kill the beasts that were set apart for

sacrifices; what to do with their blood, their flesh and

their fat. And yet, in the seventh chapter of Jeremiah,

all this is expressly denied, in the following language:

"For I spake not unto your fathers, nor commanded

"them in the day that I brought them out of the land

"of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices."

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And in the sixth chapter of Jeremiah, the same

Jehovah says; "Your burnt offerings are not ac-

"ceptable, nor your sacrifices sweet unto me."

In the Psalms, Jehovah derides the idea of

sacrifices, and says: "Will I eat of the flesh of

"bulls, or drink the blood of goats? Offer unto God

"thanksgiving, and pay thy vows unto the Most

"High."

So I find in Isaiah the following: "Bring no more

"vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me;

"the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of as-

"semblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even

"the solemn meeting. Your new moons and your

"appointed feasts my soul hateth; they are a trouble

"to me; I am weary to bear them." "To what

"purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me?

"saith the Lord. I am full of the burnt offerings of

"rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not

"in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.

"When ye come to appear before me, who hath re-

"quired this at your hand?"

So I find in James: "Let no man say when he is

"tempted: I am tempted of God; for God cannot be

"tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man;"

and yet in the twenty-second chapter of Genesis I

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find this: "And it came to pass after these things,

"that God did tempt Abraham."

In Second Samuel we see that he tempted David.

He also tempted Job, and Jeremiah says: "O Lord,

"thou hast deceived me, and I was deceived." To

such an extent was Jeremiah deceived, that in the

fourteenth chapter and eighteenth verse we find him

crying out to the Lord: "Wilt thou be altogether

"unto me as a liar?"

So in Second Thessalonians: "For these things

"God shall send them strong delusions, that they

"should believe a lie."

So in First Kings, twenty-second chapter: "Behold,

"the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all

"these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil

"concerning thee."

So in Ezekiel: "And if the prophet be deceived

"when he hath spoken a thing, I, the Lord, have de-

"ceived that prophet."

So I find: "Thou shalt not bear false witness;"

and in the book of Revelation: "All liars shall have

"their part in the lake which burneth with fire and

"brimstone;" yet in First Kings, twenty-second

chapter, I find the following: "And the Lord said:

"Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and

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"fall at Ramoth-Gilead? And one said on this

"manner, and another said on that manner. And

"there came forth a spirit and stood before the Lord,

"and said: I will persuade him. And the Lord said

"unto him: Wherewith? And he said: I will go

"forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all

"his prophets. And he said: Thou shalt persuade

"him, and prevail also. Go forth, and do so."

In the Old Testament we find contradictory laws

about the same thing, and contradictory accounts of

the same occurrences.

In the twentieth chapter of Exodus we find the first

account of the giving of the Ten Commandments. In

the thirty-fourth chapter another account of the same

transaction is given. These two accounts could not

have been written by the same person. Read them,

and you will be forced to admit that both of them

cannot by any possibility be true. They differ in so

many particulars, and the commandments themselves

are so different, that it is impossible that both can be

true.

So there are two histories of the creation. If you

will read the first and second chapters of Genesis,

you will find two accounts inconsistent with each

other, both of which cannot be true. The first account

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ends with the third verse of the second chapter of

Genesis. By the first account, man and woman were

made at the same time, and made last of all. In the

second account, not to be too critical, all the beasts

of the field were made before Eve was, and Adam

was made before the beasts of the field; whereas in

the first account, God made all the animals before he

made Adam. In the first account there is nothing

about the rib or the bone or the side,--that is only

found in the second account. In the first account,

there is nothing about the Garden of Eden, nothing

about the four rivers, nothing about the mist that

went up from the earth and watered the whole face

of the ground; nothing said about making man from

dust; nothing about God breathing into his nostrils

the breath of life; yet according to the second ac-

count, the Garden of Eden was planted, and all the

animals were made before Eve was formed. It is

impossible to harmonize the two accounts.

So, in the first account, only the word God is

used--"God said so and so,--God did so and so."

In the second account he is called Lord God,--"the

"Lord God formed man,"--"the Lord God caused

"it to rain,"--"the Lord God planted a garden." It

is now admitted that the book of Genesis is made up

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of two stories, and it is very easy to take them apart

and show exactly how they were put together.

So there are two stories of the flood, differing

almost entirely from each other--that is to say, so

contradictory that both cannot be true.

There are two accounts of the manner in which

Saul was made king, and the accounts are inconsistent

with each other.

Scholars now everywhere admit that the copyists

made many changes, pieced out fragments, and made

additions, interpolations, and meaningless repetitions.

It is now generally conceded that the speeches of

Elihu, in Job, were interpolated, and most of the

prophecies were made by persons whose names even

are not known.

The manuscripts of the Old Testament were not

alike. The Greek version differed from the Hebrew,

and there was no generally received text of the Old

Testament until after the beginning of the Christian

era. Marks and points to denote vowels were in-

vented probably in the seventh century after Christ;

and whether these marks and points were put in the

proper places, is still an open question. The Alex-

andrian version, or what is known as the Septuagint,

translated by seventy-two learned Jews assisted by

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miraculous power, about two hundred years before

Christ, could not, it is now said, have been translated

from the Hebrew text that we now have. This can

only be accounted for by supposing that we have a

different Hebrew text. The early Christians adopted

the Septuagint and were satisfied for a time; but so

many errors were found, and so many were scanning

every word in search of something to assist their

peculiar views, that new versions were produced,

and the new versions all differed somewhat from the

Septuagint as well as from each other. These ver-

sions were mostly in Greek. The first Latin Bible

was produced in Africa, and no one has ever found

out which Latin manuscript was original. Many were

produced, and all differed from each other. These

Latin versions were compared with each other and

with the Hebrew, and a new Latin version was made

in the fifth century, and the old ones held their own

for about four hundred years, and no one knows

which version was right. Besides, there were Ethi-

opie, Egyptian, Armenian and several other ver-

sions, all differing from each other as well as from all

others. It was not until the fourteenth century that

the Bible was translated into German, and not until

the fifteenth that Bibles were printed in the principal

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languages of Europe; and most of these Bibles

differed from each other, and gave rise to endless

disputes and to almost numberless crimes.

No man in the world is learned enough, nor has

he time enough, even if he could live a thousand

years, to find what books belonged to and consti-

tuted the Old Testament. He could not ascertain

the authors of the books, nor when they were written,

nor what they mean. Until a man has sufficient

time to do all this, no one can tell whether he be-

lieves the Bible or not. It is sufficient, however, to

say that the Old Testament is filled with contradic-

tions as to the number of men slain in battle, as to

the number of years certain kings reigned, as to the

number of a woman's children, as to dates of events,

and as to locations of towns and cities.

Besides all this, many of its laws are contradictory,

often commanding and prohibiting the same thing.

The New Testament also is filled with contradic-

tions. The gospels do not even agree upon the

terms of salvation. They do not even agree as to

the gospel of Christ, as to the mission of Christ.

They do not tell the same story regarding the be-

trayal, the crucifixion, the resurrection or the ascen-

sion of Christ. John is the only one that ever heard

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of being "born again." The evangelists do not give

the same account of the same miracles, and the

miracles are not given in the same order. They do

not agree even in the genealogy of Christ.

_Fourth_. Is the Bible scientific? In my judgment

it is not

It is unscientific to say that this world was "cre-

"ated that the universe was produced by an infinite

being, who had existed an eternity prior to such

"creation." My mind is such that I cannot possibly

conceive of a "creation." Neither can I conceive of

an infinite being who dwelt in infinite space an infi-

nite length of time.

I do not think it is scientific to say that the uni-

verse was made in six days, or that this world is only

about six thousand years old, or that man has only

been upon the earth for about six thousand years.

If the Bible is true, Adam was the first man. The

age of Adam is given, the age of his children, and

the time, according to the Bible, was kept and known

from Adam, so that if the Bible is true, man has only

been in this world about six thousand years. In my

judgment, and in the judgment of every scientific

man whose judgment is worth having or quoting,

man inhabited this earth for thousands of ages prior

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to the creation of Adam. On one point the Bible is

at least certain, and that is, as to the life of Adam.

The genealogy is given, the pedigree is there, and it

is impossible to escape the conclusion that, according

to the Bible, man has only been upon this earth

about six thousand years. There is no chance there

to say "long periods of time," or "geological ages."

There we have the years. And as to the time of the

creation of man, the Bible does not tell the truth.

What is generally called "The Fall of Man" is

unscientific. God could not have made a moral

character for Adam. Even admitting the rest of the

story to be true, Adam certainly had to make char-

acter for himself.

The idea that there never would have been any

disease or death in this world had it not been for the

eating of the forbidden fruit is preposterously unsci-

entific. Admitting that Adam was made only six

thousand years ago, death was in the world millions of

years before that time. The old rocks are filled with re-

mains of what were once living and breathing animals.

Continents were built up with the petrified corpses of

animals. We know, therefore, that death did not enter

the world because of Adam's sin. We know that life

and death are but successive links in an eternal chain.

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So it is unscientific to say that thorns and brambles

were produced by Adam's sin.

It is also unscientific to say that labor was pro-

nounced as a curse upon man. Labor is not a curse.

Labor is a blessing. Idleness is a curse.

It is unscientific to say that the sons of God,

living, we suppose, in heaven, fell in love with the

daughters of men, and that on account of this a

flood was sent upon the earth that covered the

highest mountains.

The whole story of the flood is unscientific, and no

scientific man worthy of the name, believes it.

Neither is the story of the tower of Babel a scien-

tific thing. Does any scientific man believe that

God confounded the language of men for fear they

would succeed in building a tower high enough to

reach to heaven?

It is not scientific to say that angels were in the

habit of walking about the earth, eating veal dressed

with butter and milk, and making bargains about the

destruction of cities.

The story of Lot's wife having been turned into a

pillar of salt is extremely unscientific.

It is unscientific to say that people at one time lived

to be nearly a thousand years of age. The history

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of the world shows that human life is lengthening

instead of shortening.

It is unscientific to say that the infinite God

wrestled with Jacob and got the better of him, put-

ting his thigh out of joint.

It is unscientific to say that God, in the likeness of

a flame of fire, inhabited a bush.

It is unscientific to say that a stick could be

changed into a living snake. Living snakes can not

be made out of sticks. There are not the necessary

elements in a stick to make a snake.

It is not scientific to say that God changed water

into blood. All the elements of blood are not in

water.

It is unscientific to declare that dust was changed

into lice.

It is not scientific to say that God caused a thick

darkness over the land of Egypt, and yet allowed it

to be light in the houses of the Jews.

It is not scientific to say that about seventy people

could, in two hundred and fifteen years increase to

three millions.

It is not scientific to say that an infinitely good

God would destroy innocent people to get revenge

upon a king.

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It is not scientific to say that slavery was once

right, that polygamy was once a virtue, and that ex-

termination was mercy.

It is not scientific to assert that a being of infinite

power and goodness went into partnership with in-

sects,--granted letters of marque and reprisal to

hornets.

It is unscientific to insist that bread was really

rained from heaven.

It is not scientific to suppose that an infinite being

spent forty days and nights furnishing Moses with plans

and specifications for a tabernacle, an ark, a mercy seat,

cherubs of gold, a table, four rings, some dishes, some

spoons, one candlestick, several bowls, a few knobs,

seven lamps, some snuffers, a pair of tongs, some cur-

tains, a roof for a tent of rams' skins dyed red, a few

boards, an altar with horns, ash pans, basins and flesh

hooks, shovels and pots and sockets of silver and

ouches of gold and pins of brass--for all of which this

God brought with him patterns from heaven.

It is not scientific to say that when a man commits

a sin, he can settle with God by killing a sheep.

It is not scientific to say that a priest, by laying

his hands on the head of a goat, can transfer the sins

of a people to the animal.

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Was it scientific to endeavor to ascertain whether

a woman was virtuous or not, by compelling her to

drink water mixed with dirt from the floor of the

sanctuary?

Is it scientific to say that a dry stick budded,

blossomed, and bore almonds; or that the ashes of a

red heifer mixed with water can cleanse us of sin;

or that a good being gave cities into the hands of the

Jews in consideration of their murdering all the in-

habitants?

Is it scientific to say that an animal saw an angel,

and conversed with a man?

Is it scientific to imagine that thrusting a spear

through the body of a woman ever stayed a plague?

Is it scientific to say that a river cut itself in two

and allowed the lower end to run off?

Is it scientific to assert that seven priests blew

seven rams' horns loud enough to blow down the

walls of a city?

Is it scientific to say that the sun stood still in the

midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down for

about a whole day, and that the moon also stayed?

Is it scientifically probable that an angel of the

Lord devoured unleavened cakes and broth with

fire that came out of the end of a stick, as he sat

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under an oak tree; or that God made known his

will by letting dew fall on wool without wetting the

ground around it; or that an angel of God appeared

to Manoah in the absence of her husband, and that

this angel afterwards went up in a flame of fire, and

as the result of this visit a child was born whose

strength was in his hair?

Is it scientific to say that the muscle of a man de-

pended upon the length of his locks?

Is it unscientific to deny that water gushed from a

hollow place in a dry bone?

Is it evidence of a thoroughly scientific mind to

believe that one man turned over a house so large

that three thousand people were on its roof?

Is it purely scientific to say that a man was once

fed by the birds of the air, who brought him bread

and meat every morning and evening, and that after-

ward an angel turned cook and prepared two sup-

pers in one night, for the same prophet, who ate

enough to last him forty days and forty nights?

Is it scientific to say that a river divided because

the water had been struck with a cloak; or that a

man actually went to heaven in a chariot of fire

drawn by horses of fire; or that a being of infinite

mercy would destroy children for laughing at a bald-

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headed prophet; or curse children and childrens

children with leprosy for a father's fault; or that he

made iron float in water; or that when one corpse

touched another it came to life; or that the sun went

backward in heaven so that the shadow on a sun-

dial went back ten degrees, as a sign that a miserable

barbarian king would get well?

Is it scientific to say that the earth not only

stopped in its rotary motion, but absolutely turned

the other way,--that its motion was reversed simply

as a sign to a petty king?

Is it scientific to say that Solomon made gold and

silver at Jerusalem as plentiful as stones, when we

know that there were kings in his day who could

have thrown away the value of the whole of Palestine

without missing the amount?

Is it scientific to say that Solomon exceeded all

the kings of the earth in glory, when his country

was barren, without roads, when his people were

few, without commerce, without the arts, without the

sciences, without education, without luxuries?

According to the Bible, as long as Jehovah attended

to the affairs of the Jews, they had nothing but war,

pestilence and famine; after Jehovah abandoned them,

and the Christians ceased, in a measure, to persecute

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them, the Jews became the most prosperous of people.

Since Jehovah in his anger cast them away, they have

produced painters, sculptors, scientists, statesmen,

composers, soldiers and philosophers.

It is not scientific to believe that God ever pre-

vented rain, that he ever caused famine, that he ever

sent locusts to devour the wheat and corn, that he

ever relied on pestilence for the government of man-

kind; or that he ever killed children to get even with

their parents.

It is not scientific to believe that the king of Egypt

invaded Palestine with seventy thousand horsemen

and twelve hundred chariots of war. There was not,

at that time, a road in Palestine over which a chariot

could be driven.

It is not scientific to believe that in a battle between

Jeroboam and Abijah, the army of Abijah slew in

one day five hundred thousand chosen men.

It is not scientific to believe that Zerah, the Ethio-

pian, invaded Palestine with a million of men who

were overthrown and destroyed; or that Jehoshaphat

had a standing army of nine hundred and sixty

thousand men.

It is unscientific to believe that Jehovah advertised

for a liar, as is related in Second Chronicles.

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It is not scientific to believe that fire refused to

burn, or that water refused to wet.

It is not scientific to believe in dreams, in visions,

and in miracles.

It is not scientific to believe that children have

been born without fathers, that the dead have ever

been raised to life, or that people have bodily as-

cended to heaven taking their clothes with them.

It is not scientific to believe in the supernatural.

Science dwells in the realm of fact, in the realm of

demonstration. Science depends upon human ex-

perience, upon observation, upon reason.

It is unscientific to say that an innocent man can

be punished in place of a criminal, and for a criminal,

and that the criminal, on account of such punishment,

can be justified.

It is unscientific to say that a finite sin deserves

infinite punishment.

It is unscientific to believe that devils can inhabit

human beings, or that they can take possession of

swine, or that the devil could bodily take a man, or

the Son of God, and carry him to the pinnacle of a

temple.

In short, the foolish, the unreasonable, the false,

the miraculous and the supernatural are unscientific.

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_Question_. Mr. Talmage gives his reason for

accepting the New Testament, and says: "You

"can trace it right out. Jerome and Eusebius in the

"first century, and Origen in the second century,

"gave lists of the writers of the New Testament.

"These lists correspond with our list of the writers

"of the New Testament, showing that precisely as

"we have it, they had it in the third and fourth cen-

"turies. Where did they get it? From Irenaeus.

"Where did he get it? From Polycarp. Where did

"Polycarp get it? From Saint John, who was a per-

"sonal associate of Jesus. The line is just as clear

"as anything ever was clear." How do you under-

stand this matter, and has Mr. Talmage stated the

facts?

_Answer_. Let us examine first the witnesses pro-

duced by Mr. Talmage. We will also call attention

to the great principle laid down by Mr. Talmage for

the examination of evidence,--that where a witness

is found false in one particular, his entire testimony

must be thrown away.

Eusebius was born somewhere about two hundred

and seventy years after Christ. After many vicissi-

tudes he became, it is said, the friend of Constantine.

He made an oration in which he extolled the virtues

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of this murderer, and had the honor of sitting at the

right hand of the man who had shed the blood of his

wife and son. In the great controversy with regard

to the position that Christ should occupy in the Trinity,

he sided with Arius, "and lent himself to the perse-

"cution of the orthodox with Athanasius." He in-

sisted that Jesus Christ was not the same as God,

and that he was not of equal power and glory. Will

Mr. Talmage admit that his witness told the truth in

this? "He would not even call the Son co-eternal

"with God."

Eusebius must have been an exceedingly truthful

man. He declared that the tracks of Pharaoh's chariots

were in his day visible upon the shores of the Red

Sea; that these tracks had been through all the years

miraculously preserved from the action of wind and

wave, as a supernatural testimony to the fact that

God miraculously overwhelmed Pharaoh and his

hosts.

Eusebius also relates that when Joseph and Mary

arrived in Eygpt they took up their abode in Hermopolis,

a city of Thebaeus, in which was the superb

temple of Serapis. When Joseph and Mary entered

the temple, not only the great idol, but all the lesser

idols fell down before him.

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"It is believed by the learned Dr. Lardner, that

"Eusebius was the one guilty of the forgery in the

"passage found in Josephus concerning Christ. Un-

"blushing falsehoods and literary forgeries of the

"vilest character darkened the pages of his historical

"writings." (Waites History.)

From the same authority I learn that Eusebius

invented an eclipse, and some earthquakes, to agree

with the account of the crucifixion. It is also be-

lieved that Eusebius quoted from works that never

existed, and that he pretended a work had been

written by Porphyry, entitled: "The Philosophy of

"Oracles," and then quoted from it for the purpose

of proving the truth of the Christian religion.

The fact is, Eusebius was utterly destitute of truth.

He believed, as many still believe, that he could

please God by the fabrication of lies.

Irenaeus lived somewhere about the end of the

second century. "Very little is known of his early

"history, and the accounts given in various biogra-

"phies are for the most part conjectural." The

writings of Irenaeus are known to us principally

through Eusebius, and we know the value of his

testimony.

Now, if we are to take the testimony of Irenaeus,

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why not take it? He says that the ministry of Christ

lasted for twenty years, and that Christ was fifty years

old at the time of his crucifixion. He also insisted

that the "Gospel of Paul" was written by Luke, "a

"statement made to give sanction to the gospel of

"Luke."

Irenaeus insisted that there were four gospels, that

there must be, and "he speaks frequently of these

"gospels, and argues that they should be four in

"number, neither more nor less, because there are

"four universal winds, and four quarters of the

"world;" and he might have added: because

donkeys have four legs.

These facts can be found in "The History of the

"Christian Religion to A. D. 200," by Charles B.

Waite,--a book that Mr. Talmage ought to read.

According to Mr. Waite, Irenaeus, in the thirty-

third chapter of his fifth book, _Adversus Haereses_,

cites from Papias the following sayings of Christ:

"The days will come in which vines shall grow

"which shall have ten thousand branches, and on

"each branch ten thousand twigs, and in each twig

"ten thousand shoots, and in each shoot ten thousand

"clusters, and in every one of the clusters ten

"thousand grapes, and every grape when pressed

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"will give five and twenty metrets of wine." Also

that "one thousand million pounds of clear, pure, fine

"flour will be produced from one grain of wheat."

Irenaeus adds that "these things were borne witness

"to by Papias the hearer of John and the companion

"of Polycarp."

Is it possible that the eternal welfare of a human

being depends upon believing the testimony of Poly-

carp and Irenaeus? Are people to be saved or lost

on the reputation of Eusebius? Suppose a man is

firmly convinced that Polycarp knew nothing about

Saint John, and that Saint John knew nothing about

Christ,--what then? Suppose he is convinced that

Eusebius is utterly unworthy of credit,--what then?

Must a man believe statements that he has every

reason to think are false?

The question arises as to the witnesses named by

Mr. Talmage, whether they were competent to decide

as to the truth or falsehood of the gospels. We have

the right to inquire into their mental traits for the

purpose of giving only due weight to what they have

said.

Mr. Bronson C. Keeler is the author of a book

called: "A Short History of the Bible." I avail

myself of a few of the facts he has there collected. I

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find in this book, that Irenaeus, Clement and Origen

believed in the fable of the Phoenix, and insisted that

God produced the bird on purpose to prove the

probability of the resurrection of the body. Some

of the early fathers believed that the hyena changed

its sex every year. Others of them gave as a reason

why good people should eat only animals with a

cloven foot, the fact that righteous people lived not

only in this world, but had expectations in the next.

They also believed that insane people were pos-

sessed by devils; that angels ate manna; that some

angels loved the daughters of men and fell; that the

pains of women in childbirth, and the fact that ser-

pents crawl on their bellies, were proofs that the

account of the fall, as given in Genesis, is true; that

the stag renewed its youth by eating poisonous

snakes; that eclipses and comets were signs of God's

anger; that volcanoes were openings into hell; that

demons blighted apples; that a corpse in a cemetery

moved to make room for another corpse to be placed

beside it. Clement of Alexandria believed that hail

storms, tempests and plagues were caused by demons.

He also believed, with Mr. Talmage, that the events

in the life of Abraham were typical and prophetical

of arithmetic and astronomy.

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Origen, another of the witnesses of Mr. Talmage,

said that the sun, moon and stars were living crea-

tures, endowed with reason and free will, and occa-

sionally inclined to sin. That they had free will, he

proved by quoting from Job; that they were rational

creatures, he inferred from the fact that they moved.

The sun, moon and stars, according to him, were

"subject to vanity," and he believed that they prayed

to God through his only begotten son.

These intelligent witnesses believed that the blight-

ing of vines and fruit trees, and the disease and de-

struction that came upon animals and men, were all

the work of demons; but that when they had entered

into men, the sign of the cross would drive them out.

They derided the idea that the earth is round, and

one of them said: "About the antipodes also, one

"can neither hear nor speak without laughter. It is

"asserted as something serious that we should be-

"lieve that there are men who have their feet oppo-

"site to ours. The ravings of Anaxagoras are more

"tolerable, who said that snow was black."

Concerning these early fathers, Professor Davidson,

as quoted by Mr. Keeler, uses the following lan-

guage: "Of the three fathers who contributed

"most to the growth of the canon, Irenaeus was

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"credulous and blundering; Tertullian passionate

"and one-sided; and Clement of Alexandria, im-

"bued with the treasures of Greek wisdom, was

"mainly occupied with ecclesiastical ethics. Their

"assertions show both ignorance and exaggeration."

These early fathers relied upon by Mr. Talmage,

quoted from books now regarded as apocryphal--

books that have been thrown away by the church

and are no longer considered as of the slightest

authority. Upon this subject I again quote Mr.

Keeler: "Clement quoted the 'Gospel according to

"'the Hebrews,' which is now thrown away by the

"church; he also quoted from the Sibylline books

"and the Pentateuch in the same sentence. Origen

"frequently cited the Gospel of the Hebrews. Jerome

"did the same, and Clement believed in the 'Gospel

"'according to the Egyptians.' The Shepherd of

"Hermas, a book in high repute in the early church,

"and one which distinctly claims to have been

"inspired, was quoted by Irenaeus as Scripture.

"Clement of Alexandria said it was a divine revela-

"tion. Origen said it was divinely inspired, and

"quoted it as Holy Scripture at the same time that

"he cited the Psalms and Epistles of Paul. Jerome

"quoted the 'Wisdom of Jesus, the Son of Sirach,'

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"as divine Scripture. Origen quotes the 'Wisdom

"of Solomon' as the 'Word of God' and 'the

"'words of Christ himself.' Eusebius of Caesarea

"cites it as a * Divine Oracle,' and St. Chrysostom

"used it as Scripture. So Eusebius quotes the

"thirteenth chapter of Daniel as Scripture, but as a

"matter of fact, Daniel has not a thirteenth chapter,--

"the church has taken it away. Clement spoke of

"the writer of the fourth book of Esdras as a prophet;

"he thought Baruch as much the word of God as

"any other book, and he quotes it as divine Scripture.

"Clement cites Barnabas as an apostle. Origen

"quotes from the Epistle of Barnabas, calls it 'Holy

" 'Scripture,' and places it on a level with the Psalms

"and the Epistles of Paul; and Clement of Alexan-

"dria believed in the 'Epistle of Barnabas,' and the

"'Revelation, of Peter,' and wrote comments upon

"these holy books."

Nothing can exceed the credulity of the early

fathers, unless it may be their ignorance. They be-

lieved everything that was miraculous. They believed

everything except the truth. Anything that really

happened was considered of no importance by them.

They looked for wonders, miracles, and monstrous

things, and--generally found them. They revelled

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in the misshapen and the repulsive. They did not

think it wrong to swear falsely in a good cause.

They interpolated, forged, and changed the records to

suit themselves, for the sake of Christ. They quoted

from persons who never wrote. They misrepresented

those who had written, and their evidence is abso-

lutely worthless. They were ignorant, credulous,

mendacious, fanatical, pious, unreasonable, bigoted,

hypocritical, and for the most part, insane. Read the

book of Revelation, and you will agree with me that

nothing that ever emanated from a madhouse can

more than equal it for incoherence. Most of the

writings of the early fathers are of the same kind.

As to Saint John, the real truth is, that we know

nothing certainly of him. We do not know that he

ever lived.

We know nothing certainly of Jesus Christ. We

know nothing of his infancy, nothing of his youth,

and we are not sure that such a person ever existed.

We know nothing of Polycarp. We do not know

where he was born, or where, or how he died. We

know nothing for certain about Irenaeus. All the

names quoted by Mr. Talmage as his witnesses

are surrounded by clouds and doubts, by mist and

darkness. We only know that many of their

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statements are false, and do not know that any of

them are true.

_Question_. What do you think of the following state-

ment by Mr. Talmage: "Oh, I have to tell you that no

"man ever died for a lie cheerfully and triumphantly"?

_Answer_. There was a time when men "cheerfully

"and triumphantly died" in defence of the doctrine

of the "real presence" of God in the wafer and wine.

Does Mr. Talmage believe in the doctrine of "tran-

"substantiation"? Yet hundreds have died "cheer-

"fully and triumphantly" for it. Men have died for

the idea that baptism by immersion is the only

scriptural baptism. Did they die for a lie? If not,

is Mr. Talmage a Baptist?

Giordano Bruno was an atheist, yet he perished at

the stake rather than retract his opinions. He did

not expect to be welcomed by angels and by God.

He did not look for a crown of glory. He expected

simply death and eternal extinction. Does the fact

that he died for that belief prove its truth?

Thousands upon thousands have died in defence of

the religion of Mohammed. Was Mohammed an im-

postor? Thousands have welcomed death in defence

of the doctrines of Buddha. Is Buddhism true?

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So I might make a tour of the world, and of all

ages of human history, and find that millions and

millions have died "cheerfully and triumphantly" in

defence of their opinions. There is not the slightest

truth in Mr. Talmage's statement.

A little while ago, a man shot at the Czar of Russia.

On the day of his execution he was asked if he

wished religious consolation. He replied that he

believed in no religion. What did that prove? It

proved only the man's honesty of opinion. All the

martyrs in the world cannot change, never did

change, a falsehood into a truth, nor a truth into

a falsehood. Martyrdom proves nothing but the

sincerity of the martyr and the cruelty and mean-

ness of his murderers. Thousands and thousands of

people have imagined that they knew things, that

they were certain, and have died rather than retract

their honest beliefs.

Mr. Talmage now says that he knows all about the

Old Testament, that the prophecies were fulfilled,

and yet he does not know when the prophecies were

made--whether they were made before or after the

fact. He does not know whether the destruction of

Babylon was told before it happened, or after. He

knows nothing upon the subject. He does not know

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who made the pretended prophecies. He does not

know that Isaiah, or Jeremiah, or Habakkuk, or

Hosea ever lived in this world. He does not know

who wrote a single book of the Old Testament. He

knows nothing on the subject. He believes in the

inspiration of the Old Testament because ancient

cities finally fell into decay--were overrun and de-

stroyed by enemies, and he accounts for the fact that

the Jew does not lose his nationality by saying that

the Old Testament is true.

The Jews have been persecuted by the Christians,

and they are still persecuted by them; and Mr. Tal-

mage seems to think that this persecution was a part

of Gods plan, that the Jews might, by persecution,

be prevented from mingling with other nationalities,

and so might stand, through the instrumentality of

perpetual hate and cruelty, the suffering witnesses of

the divine truth of the Bible.

The Jews do not testify to the truth of the Bible,

but to the barbarism and inhumanity of Christians--

to the meanness and hatred of what we are pleased

to call the "civilized world." They testify to the fact

that nothing so hardens the human heart as religion.

There is no prophecy in the Old Testament fore-

telling the coming of Jesus Christ. There is not one

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word in the Old Testament referring to him in any

way--not one word. The only way to prove this

is to take your Bible, and wherever you find these

words: "That it might be fulfilled," and "which

"was spoken," turn to the Old Testament and

find what was written, and you will see that it had

not the slightest possible reference to the thing re-

counted in the New Testament--not the slightest.

Let us take some of the prophecies of the Bible,

and see how plain they are, and how beautiful they

are. Let us see whether any human being can tell

whether they have ever been fulfilled or not.

Here is a vision of Ezekiel: "I looked, and be-

"hold a whirlwind came out of the north, a great

"cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness

"was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the

"color of amber, out of the midst of the fire. Also

"out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four

"living creatures. And this was their appearance;

"they had the likeness of a man. And every one

"had four faces, and every one had four wings.

"And their feet were straight feet; and the sole of

"their feet was like the sole of a calf's foot: and they

"sparkled like the color of burnished brass. And

"they had the hands of a man under their wings on

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"their four sides; and they four had their faces and

"their wings. Their wings were joined one to

"another; they turned not when-they went; they

"went every one straight forward. As for the like-

"ness of their faces, they four had the face of a man,

"and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they

"four had the face of an ox on the left side; they

"four also had the face of an eagle.

"Thus were their faces: and their wings were

"stretched upward; two wings of every one were

"joined one to another, and two covered their bodies.

"And they went every one straight forward: whither

"the spirit was to go, they went; and they turned not

"when they went.

"As for the likeness of the living creatures, their

"appearance was like burning coals of fire, and like

"the appearance of lamps: it went up and down

"among the living creatures; and the fire was bright,

"and out of the fire went forth lightning. And the

"living creatures ran and returned as the appearance

"of a flash of lightning.

"Now as I beheld the living creatures, behold one

"wheel upon the earth by the living creatures, with

"his four faces. The appearance of the wheels and

"their work was like unto the color of a beryl: and

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"they four had one likeness: and their appearance

"and their work was as it were a wheel in the middle

"of a wheel. When they went, they went upon

"their four sides: and they turned not when they

"went. As for their rings, they were so high that

"they were dreadful; and their rings were full of

"eyes round about them four. And when the living

"creatures went, the wheels went by them: and

"when the living creatures were lifted up from the

"earth, the wheels were lifted up. Whithersoever

"the spirit was to go, they went, thither was their

"spirit to go; and the wheels were lifted up over

"against them: for the spirit of the living creature

"was in the wheels. When those went, these went;

"and when those stood, these stood; and when those

"were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were

"lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the

"living creature was in the wheels. And the like-

"ness of the firmament upon the heads of the living

"creature was as the color of the terrible crystal,

"stretched forth over their heads above. And under

"the firmament were their wings straight, the one

"toward the other; every one had two, which

"covered on this side, and every one had two,

"which covered on that side, their bodies."

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Is such a vision a prophecy? Is it calculated

to convey the slightest information? If so, what?

So, the following vision of the prophet Daniel is

exceedingly important and instructive:

"Daniel spake and said: I saw in my vision by

"night, and behold, the four winds of the heaven

"strove upon the great sea. And four great beasts

"came up from the sea, diverse one from another.

"The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings:

"I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it

"was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon

"the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to

"it. And behold another beast, a second, like to a

"bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had

"three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of

"it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much

"flesh.

"After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard,

"which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl;

"the beast had also four heads, and dominion was

"given to it.

"After this I saw in the night visions, and behold

"a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong ex-

"ceedingly; and it had great iron teeth; it devoured

"and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with

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"the feet of it; and it was diverse from all the beasts

"that were before it, and it had ten horns. I con-

"sidered the horns, and, behold, there came up

"among them another little horn, before whom

"there were three of the first horns plucked up by

"the roots: and behold, in this horn were eyes like

"the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great

"things."

I have no doubt that this prophecy has been liter-

ally fulfilled, but I am not at present in condition to

give the time, place, or circumstances.

A few moments ago, my attention was called to

the following extract from _The New York Herald_ of

the thirteenth of March, instant:

"At the Fifth Avenue Baptist Church, Dr. Armi-

"tage took as his text, 'A wheel in the middle of a

"'wheel'--Ezekiel, i., 16. Here, said the preacher,

"are three distinct visions in one--the living crea-

"tures, the moving wheels and the fiery throne. We

"have time only to stop the wheels of this mystic

"chariot of Jehovah, that we may hold holy converse

"with Him who rides upon the wings of the wind.

"In this vision of the prophet we have a minute and

"amplified account of these magnificent symbols or

"hieroglyphics, this wondrous machinery which de-

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"notes immense attributes and agencies and voli-

"tions, passing their awful and mysterious course of

"power and intelligence in revolution after revolu-

"tion of the emblematical mechanism, in steady and

"harmonious advancement to the object after which

"they are reaching. We are compelled to look

"upon the whole as symbolical of that tender and

"endearing providence of which Jesus spoke when

"He said, 'The very hairs of your head are num-

"* bered.'"

Certainly, an ordinary person, not having been

illuminated by the spirit of prophecy, would never

have even dreamed that there was the slightest re-

ference in Ezekiel's vision to anything like counting

hairs. As a commentator, the Rev. Dr. Armitage

has no equal; and, in my judgment, no rival. He

has placed himself beyond the reach of ridicule. It

is impossible to say anything about his sermon as

laughable as his sermon.

_Question_. Have you no confidence in any pro-

phecies? Do you take the ground that there never

has been a human being who could predict the

future?

_Answer_. I admit that a man of average intelli-

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gence knows that a certain course, when pursued

long enough, will bring national disaster, and it is

perfectly safe to predict the downfall of any and

every country in the world. In my judgment,

nations, like individuals, have an average life.

Every nation is mortal. An immortal nation cannot

be constructed of mortal individuals. A nation has

a reason for existing, and that reason sustains the

same relation to the nation that the acorn does to

the oak. The nation will attain its growth--other

things being equal. It will reach its manhood and

its prime, but it will sink into old age, and at last

must die. Probably, in a few thousand years, men

will be able to calculate the average life of nations,

as they now calculate the average life of persons.

There has been no period since the morning of his-

tory until now, that men did not know of dead and

dying nations. There has always been a national

cemetery. Poland is dead, Turkey is dying. In

every nation are the seeds of dissolution. Not only

nations die, but races of men. A nation is born,

becomes powerful, luxurious, at last grows weak, is

overcome, dies, and another takes its place, In this

way civilization and barbarism, like day and night,

alternate through all of history's years.

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In every nation there are at least two classes of

men: First, the enthusiastic, the patriotic, who be-

lieve that the nation will live forever,--that its flag

will float while the earth has air; Second, the owls

and ravens and croakers, who are always predicting

disaster, defeat, and death. To the last class belong

the Jeremiahs, Ezekiels, and Isaiahs of the Jews.

They were always predicting the downfall of Jeru-

salem. They revelled in defeat and captivity. They

loved to paint the horrors of famine and war. For

the most part, they were envious, hateful, misan-

thropic and unjust.

There seems to have been a war between church

and state. The prophets were endeavoring to pre-

serve the ecclesiastical power. Every king who would

listen to them, was chosen of God. He instantly

became the model of virtue, and the prophets assured

him that he was in the keeping of Jehovah. But if

the king had a mind of his own, the prophets im-

mediately called down upon him all the curses of

heaven, and predicted the speedy destruction of his

kingdom.

If our own country should be divided, if an empire

should rise upon the ruins of the Republic, it would

be very easy to find that hundreds and thousands of

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people had foretold that very thing. If you will read

the political speeches of the last twenty-two years,

you will find prophecies to fit any possible future

state of affairs in our country. No matter what

happens, you will find that somebody predicted it.

If the city of London should lose her trade, if the

Parliament house should become the abode of moles

and bats, if "the New Zealander should sit upon the

"ruins of London Bridge," all these things would be

simply the fulfillment of prophecy. The fall of every

nation under the sun has been predicted by hundreds

and thousands of people.

The prophecies of the Old Testament can be made

to fit anything that may happen, or that may not

happen. They will apply to the death of a king, or

to the destruction of a people,--to the loss of com-

merce, or the discovery of a continent. Each pro-

phecy is a jugglery of words, of figures, of symbols,

so put together, so used, so interpreted, that they

can mean anything, everything, or nothing.

_Question_. Do you see anything "prophetic" in

the fate of the Jewish people themselves? Do you

think that God made the Jewish people wanderers, so

that they might be perpetual witnesses to the truth

of the Scriptures?

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_Answer_. I cannot believe that an infinitely good

God would make anybody a wanderer. Neither can

I believe that he would keep millions of people with-

out country and without home, and allow them to be

persecuted for thousands of years, simply that they

might be used as witnesses. Nothing could be more

absurdly cruel than this.

The Christians justify their treatment of the Jews

on the ground that they are simply fulfilling prophecy.

The Jews have suffered because of the horrid story

that their ancestors crucified the Son of God. Chris-

tianity, coming into power, looked with horror upon

the Jews, who denied the truth of the gospel. Each

Jew was regarded as a dangerous witness against

Christianity. The early Christians saw how neces-

sary it was that the people who lived in Jerusalem

at the time of Christ should be convinced that

he was God, and should testify to the miracles he

wrought. Whenever a Jew denied it, the Christian

was filled with malignity and hatred, and immediately

excited the prejudice of other Christians against the

man simply because he was a Jew. They forgot, in

their general hatred, that Mary, the mother of Christ,

was a Jewess; that Christ himself was of Jewish

blood; and with an inconsistency of which, of all

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religions, Christianity alone could have been guilty,

the Jew became an object of especial hatred and

aversion.

When we remember that Christianity pretends to

be a religion of love and kindness, of charity and for-

giveness, must not every intelligent man be shocked

by the persecution of the Jews? Even now, in learned

and cultivated Germany, the Jew is treated as though

he were a wild beast. The reputation of this great

people has been stained by a persecution spring-

ing only from ignorance and barbarian prejudice.

So in Russia, the Christians are anxious to shed

every drop of Jewish blood, and thousands are to-day

fleeing from their homes to seek a refuge from Chris-

tian hate. And Mr. Talmage believes that all these

persecutions are kept up by the perpetual intervention

of God, in order that the homeless wanderers of the

seed of Abraham may testify to the truth of the Old

and New Testaments. He thinks that every burning

Jewish home sheds light upon the gospel,--that

every gash in Jewish flesh cries out in favor of the

Bible,--that every violated Jewish maiden shows the

interest that God still takes in the preservation of

his Holy Word.

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