The testimony of Sam Guinyard was taken at 10:15 a.m., on April 2,
1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building,
Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. Joseph A. Ball, assistant
counsel of the President's Commission.
Mr. BALL. Will you stand up, Sam, and hold up your right hand? Do you
solemnly swear that the testimony you are about to give before the
Commission will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the
truth, so help you God?
Mr. GUINYARD. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Will you state your name and address for the record?
Mr. GUINYARD. Sam Guinyard.
Mr. BALL. That's [spelling] G-u-i-n-y-a-r-d, and what is your
address--where do you live?
Mr. GUINYARD. 2815 South Ervay Street.
Mr. BALL. Where were you working on November 22, 1963?
Mr. GUINYARD. On East Jefferson--501 East Jefferson.
Mr. BALL. Where is that?
Mr. GUINYARD. Harris Motor Co.
Mr. BALL. A used-car lot?
Mr. GUINYARD. Yes.
Mr. BALL. What kind of work were you doing?
Mr. GUINYARD. Porter.
Mr. BALL. How old are you, Sam?
Mr. GUINYARD. I am 28.
Mr. BALL. And where were you born?
Mr. GUINYARD. In Ennis.
Mr. BALL. Ennis, Tex.?
Mr. GUINYARD. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Where did you go to school?
Mr. GUINYARD. Ennis and Hillsboro.
Mr. BALL. And how far through school did you go?
Mr. GUINYARD. Well, I got to the sixth grade.
Mr. BALL. What have you done since then, what kind of work have you
done mostly?
Mr. GUINYARD. Compress work.
Mr. BALL. What is that?
Mr. GUINYARD. Press cotton--pressing cotton.
Mr. BALL. When did you come to Dallas?
Mr. GUINYARD. Well, I have been back in Dallas ever since 1957. I lived
in Plainview about 13 years.
Mr. BALL. At--what kind of work have you done since you came to Dallas?
Mr. GUINYARD. Well, a porter in a carlot.
Mr. BALL. A porter in a carlot?
Mr. GUINYARD. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Have you ever been in any kind of trouble in your life?
Mr. GUINYARD. No, sir; nothing but a little poker fines that otherwise
I paid and I got a couple of tickets in my life.
Mr. BALL. Now, on the day of November 22, 1963, that's the day the
President was killed, what were you doing?
Mr. GUINYARD. Working there.
Mr. BALL. And you heard about it, that he had been shot? Didn't you?
Mr. GUINYARD. Yes; at the time I did.
Mr. BALL. What were you doing and where were you then when you heard
that?
Mr. GUINYARD. In Oak Cliff at 501 East Jefferson.
Mr. BALL. What were you doing?
Mr. GUINYARD. Polishing and waxing a station wagon.
Mr. BALL. And did something else happen that day that you remember?
Mr. GUINYARD. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. What?
Mr. GUINYARD. Well, this was when Oswald shot the policeman.
Mr. BALL. Tell me what you heard--I just want to know what you were
doing and what you heard?