Mr. BELIN. Would that be the name at the lower left-hand corner of
Exhibit 1?
Mr. WALDMAN. It is.
Mr. BELIN. And that is who?
Mr. WALDMAN. Mitchell W. Westra.
Mr. BELIN. At that time was he an employee of your company?
Mr. WALDMAN. He was.
Mr. BELIN. Was he under your jurisdiction and supervision?
Mr. WALDMAN. He was not under my direct supervision, no. He was under
the direct supervision of Sam Kasper.
Mr. BELIN. And where is Sam Kasper now?
Mr. WALDMAN. He may or may not be here.
Mr. BELIN. I don't mean this afternoon. Is he with the company?
Mr. WALDMAN. He is the vice president of our company.
Mr. BELIN. He is the other vice president of the company?
Mr. WALDMAN. Correct.
Mr. BELIN. All right. Now, you started to go into the detail of what
Deposition Exhibit 1 constituted. I just wonder if you will pick up
where you left off here.
Mr. WALDMAN. Yes; on the same form we show a record of the receipt of
the rifles in question, specifically this extreme right-hand column
which is filled in, indicating that on February 22, delivery was made
to us by Lifschultz Trucking Co. I might explain the difference in the
two dates here.
Mr. BELIN. Go ahead.
Mr. WALDMAN. The February 21 date is the date in which the merchandise
came to our premises whereas the date of February 22, is the date in
which they were officially received by our receiving department.
Mr. BELIN. Your receiving department checks each order to see that the
physical contents match the stated shipment on the invoice; is that
correct?
Mr. WALDMAN. They don't necessarily see that they match because they
frequently do not match, but they determine actually how much was
received by us.
Mr. BELIN. Now, I notice on Waldman Deposition Exhibit No. 1 a
date--well, I might read everything under the column of description; it
says Italian Mannlicher-Carcano, Model 91TS, bolt action 6-shot rifle;
and then cal.--that's for caliber--6.5, and then there is an "X" and 52
mm Italian-select, clean, and test-fired, changed to Beretta Terni M19,
then a slash line 38 EFF, and then the date of 4/16/62. Explain that
date and that description.
Mr. WALDMAN. Yes; this general style of rifle was made by a number of
different manufacturers over a period of time and there were minor
modifications made by--developed by each of the manufacturers.
Mr. BELIN. Would this be similar to a number of manufacturers making
the Springfield rifle in this country?
Mr. WALDMAN. As for example, the different manufacturers making the
Springfield rifle. Basically, the weapons were of the same general
design, but as I say, there were details that were different.
We originally had ordered one style of Carcano rifle, one that was
known as the Model 91TS. As time went on, we changed to another model
known as the Model 91/38EFF, this on April 13, 1962.
Mr. BELIN. Now, I also note on Waldman Deposition Exhibit No. 1, under
the item number--some letters here or numbers----
Mr. WALDMAN. C20-T749.
Mr. BELIN. What does that signify?
Mr. WALDMAN. This is an identification number assigned by us for
internal operating purposes.
Mr. BELIN. Would this be something akin to a catalog number?
Mr. WALDMAN. Yes.