Mr. SIMS. Photographers and newsmen.
Mr. STERN. Were there television cameras in the corridor at that time?
Mr. SIMS. Yes.
Mr. STERN. Do you know when they were brought in, were you present when
they were installed?
Mr. SIMS. No; I don't know when they were installed.
Mr. STERN. As I understand it, you had to bring Oswald through part of
this crowd of newspapermen to get him to the interrogation room, when
you brought him to and from?
Mr. SIMS. No, sir; the interrogation room was all in room 317, but when
we would have to go through the crowd would be to take him to a showup,
and the next day when we would bring him from the jail to Captain
Fritz' office, it would be a matter of 20 or 30 feet there in the hall.
Mr. STERN. And in the course of those trips through the crowd, would
people try to ask him questions?
Mr. SIMS. Yes, sir.
Mr. STERN. And tried to get him to make statements on the microphone?
Mr. SIMS. Yes; they would.
Mr. STERN. Would he respond--do you recall--ever?
Mr. SIMS. Sometimes he would and sometimes he wouldn't.
Mr. STERN. Did this have any effect on him, did it seem to irritate him
in any way, or did he also take this calmly?
Mr. SIMS. Well, I didn't notice anything different.
Mr. STERN. No noticeable difference?
Mr. SIMS. No, sir.
Mr. STERN. Would you describe his demeanor on Saturday as being
the same as it was on Friday, was he still calm and in complete
self-control?
Mr. SIMS. I was not around him a lot Saturday, I don't believe, but he
still was calm and alert and everything.
Mr. STERN. How about his demeanor at the press conference Friday night
when he was taken down to the showup room to meet the press?
Mr. SIMS. Well, he was--during the press interview--he was pretty
snappy. He made some quick answers--I don't know what all it
involved--he denied knowledge of the President's assassination, I
believe, and he denied knowledge of killing Officer Tippit.
Mr. STERN. And he was snappy and arrogant and hostile?
Mr. SIMS. Yes; a form of arrogance, yes, sir.
Mr. STERN. But was he harassed by this or was he still calm and in
control?
Mr. SIMS. Well, he had control of himself; yes, sir.
Mr. STERN. So that his snappiness was, would you say, his way of
expressing his feelings?
Mr. SIMS. Well, I don't know--I don't know, but he was snappy at that
time--at that press interview.
Mr. STERN. That's all. Thank you.
That's all I have, Mr. Ball.