RELIGION IN POLITICS.

_Question_. How do you regard the present political situation?

_Answer_. My opinion is that the ideas the North fought for upon

the field have at last triumphed at the ballot-box. For several

years after the Rebellion was put down the Southern ideas traveled

North. We lost West Virginia, New Jersey, Connecticut, New York

and a great many congressional districts in other States. We lost

both houses of Congress and every Southern State. The Southern

ideas reached their climax in 1876. In my judgment the tide has

turned, and hereafter the Northern idea is going South. The young

men are on the Republican side. The old Democrats are dying. The

cradle is beating the coffin. It is a case of life and death, and

life is ahead. The heirs outnumber the administrators.

_Question_. What kind of a President will Garfield make?

_Answer_. My opinion is that he will make as good a President as

this nation ever had. He is fully equipped. He is a trained

statesman. He has discussed all the great questions that have

arisen for the last eighteen years, and with great ability. He is

a thorough scholar, a conscientious student, and takes an exceedingly

comprehensive survey of all questions. He is genial, generous and

candid, and has all the necessary qualities of heart and brain to

make a great President. He has no prejudices. Prejudice is the

child and flatterer of ignorance. He is firm, but not obstinate.

The obstinate man wants his own way; the firm man stands by the

right. Andrew Johnson was obstinate--Lincoln was firm.

_Question_. How do you think he will treat the South?

_Answer_. Just the same as the North. He will be the President

of the whole country. He will not execute the laws by the compass,

but according to the Constitution. I do not speak for General

Garfield, nor by any authority from his friends. No one wishes to

injure the South. The Republican party feels in honor bound to

protect all citizens, white and black. It must do this in order

to keep its self-respect. It must throw the shield of the Nation

over the weakest, the humblest and the blackest citizen. Any other

course is suicide. No thoughtful Southern man can object to this,

and a Northern Democrat knows that it is right.

_Question_. Is there a probability that Mr. Sherman will be retained

in the Cabinet?

_Answer_. I have no knowledge upon that question, and consequently

have nothing to say. My opinion about the Cabinet is, that General

Garfield is well enough acquainted with public men to choose a

Cabinet that will suit him and the country. I have never regarded

it as the proper thing to try and force a Cabinet upon a President.

He has the right to be surrounded by his friends, by men in whose

judgment and in whose friendship he has the utmost confidence, and

I would no more think of trying to put some man in the Cabinet that

I would think of signing a petition that a man should marry a

certain woman. General Garfield will, I believe, select his own

constitutional advisers, and he will take the best he knows.

_Question_. What, in your opinion, is the condition of the Democratic

party at present?

_Answer_. It must get a new set of principles, and throw away its

prejudices. It must demonstrate its capacity to govern the country

by governing the States where it is in power. In the presence of

rebellion it gave up the ship. The South must become Republican

before the North will willingly give it power; that is, the great

ideas of nationality are greater than parties, and if our flag is

not large enough to protect every citizen, we must add a few more

stars and stripes. Personally I have no hatreds in this matter.

The present is not only the child of the past, but the necessary

child. A statesman must deal with things as they are. He must

not be like Gladstone, who divides his time between foreign wars

and amendments to the English Book of Common Prayer.

_Question_. How do you regard the religious question in politics?

_Answer_. Religion is a personal matter--a matter that each

individual soul should be allowed to settle for itself. No man

shod in the brogans of impudence should walk into the temple of

another man's soul. While every man should be governed by the

highest possible considerations of the public weal, no one has the

right to ask for legal assistance in the support of his particular

sect. If Catholics oppose the public schools I would not oppose

them because they are Catholics, but because I am in favor of the

schools. I regard the public school as the intellectual bread of

life. Personally I have no confidence in any religion that can be

demonstrated only to children. I suspect all creeds that rely

implicitly on mothers and nurses. That religion is the best that

commends itself the strongest to men and women of education and

genius. After all, the prejudices of infancy and the ignorance of

the aged are a poor foundation for any system of morals or faith.

I respect every honest man, and I think more of a liberal Catholic

than of an illiberal Infidel. The religious question should be

left out of politics. You might as well decide questions of art

and music by a ward caucus as to govern the longings and dreams of

the soul by law. I believe in letting the sun shine whether the

weeds grow or not. I can never side with Protestants if they try

to put Catholics down by law, and I expect to oppose both of these

until religious intolerance is regarded as a crime.

_Question_. Is the religious movement of which you are the chief

exponent spreading?

_Answer_. There are ten times as many Freethinkers this year as

there were last. Civilization is the child of free thought. The

new world has drifted away from the rotting wharf of superstition.

The politics of this country are being settled by the new ideas of

individual liberty; and parties and churches that cannot accept

the new truths must perish. I want it perfectly understood that

I am not a politician. I believe in liberty and I want to see the

time when every man, woman and child will enjoy every human right.

The election is over, the passions aroused by the campaign will

soon subside, the sober judgment of the people will, in my opinion,

indorse the result, and time will indorse the indorsement.

--_The Evening Express_, New York City, November 19, 1880.

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