TALKING WITH A FEW

§ 34. These last remarks are very applicable to the case next before us,

when conversation is among a few—say from four to eight people—a form of

society the best and most suitable for talk, but which is now rather the

exception, from the common habit of crowding our rooms or our tables,

and getting rid of social obligations as if they were commercial debts.

Indeed many of our young people have so seldom heard a general

conversation that they grow up in the belief that their only duty in

society will be to talk to one man or woman at a time. So serious are

the results of the fashion of large dinner-parties. For really good

society no dinner-table should be too large to exclude general

conversation, and no couples should sit together who are likely to lapse

into private discourse.

It is generally thought the fault of the host or hostess if such an

evening turns out a failure;[9] and indeed it is possible to bring one

incongruous person into a small company, who will so chill or disturb

the rest that conversation languishes. But this case is rare, and the

fault usually lies with the company, none of whom take the trouble to

tide over any difficulty, or seek to draw out from those present what

they like or want to say. I am now looking at the thing from the point

of view of the man or woman who comes in as a guest, and whose duty it

is to make the evening, or the period of time during which the company

is assembled, pass in a pleasant way. Perhaps it is the practical course

to consider the usual form in modern society, that of the small

dinner-party, and then apply what is to be said upon it to analogous

cases.

Footnote 9:

It is right to add that there are hosts, and hostesses so anxious for

the good entertainment of their friends that this preoccupation spoils

their own enjoyment, and so far defeats the very object they have in

view. But people so truly desirous of giving pleasure can hardly avoid

being pleasant in a better sense than those who do not feel their

responsibilities so acutely.

In the very forefront there stares us in the face that very awkward

period which even the gentle Menander notes as the worst possible for

conversation, the short time during which people are assembling, and

waiting for the announcement of dinner. If the witty man were not

usually a selfish person, who will not exhibit his talent without the

reward of full and leisurely appreciation, this is the real moment to

show his powers. A brilliant thing said at the very start, which sets

people laughing, and makes them forget that they are waiting, may alter

the whole complexion of the party, may make the silent and distant

people feel themselves drawn into the sympathy of common merriment, and

thaw the iciness which so often fetters Anglo-Saxon society. But as this

faculty is not given to many, so the average man may content himself

with having something ready to tell, and this, if possible, in answer to

the usual question expressed or implied: Is there any news this

afternoon? There are few days that the daily papers will not afford to

the intelligent critic something ridiculous either in style or matter

which has escaped the ordinary public; some local event, nay, even some

local tragedy, may suggest a topic not worth more than a few moments of

attention, which will secure the interest of minds vacant, and perhaps

more hungry to be fed than their bodies. Here then, if anywhere in the

whole range of conversation, the man or woman who desires to be

agreeable may venture to think beforehand, and bring with them something

ready, merely as the first kick or starting point to make the evening

run smoothly.

§ 35. When the company has settled down to dinner, the first care should

be to prevent it breaking into couples, and for that purpose some one

opposite should be addressed or some question asked which may evoke

answers from various people. Above all, however, the particular guest of

the night, or the person best known as a wit or story-teller, should

_not_ be pressed or challenged at the outset—a sort of vulgarity which

makes him either shy or angry at being so manifestly _exploité_ by the

company, so that he is likely either to turn silent or say some

ill-humoured things.

The main advice to be given to women to help them in making such a small

company agreeable, is to study politics. A vast number of clever and

well-read women exclude themselves from a large part of the serious talk

of men by neglecting this engrossing and ever-fruitful topic of

conversation. Literature, of course, is a still more various and

interesting subject; but here perhaps the defect lies with men, who are

so devoted to practical life that they lose their taste for general

reading. Except for politics, the daily papers seldom afford any

literary food fit for good conversation.

The topic which ought to be common to both and always interesting, is

the discussion of human character and human motives. If the novel be so

popular a form of literature, how can the novel in real life fail to

interest an intelligent company? People of serious temper and

philosophic habit will be able to confine themselves to large ethical

views, and the general dealings of men; but to average people, both men

and women, and perhaps most of all to busy men, who desire to find in

society relaxation from their toil, that lighter and more personal kind

of criticism on human affairs will prevail which is known as _gossip_.

§ 36. This may, therefore, be the suitable moment to consider the place

of gossip in the theory of conversation; for though gossip is not only

possible but usual in the private discourse of two people, and possible

too in a large society, its real home and natural exercising ground is

the society of a few people intimate with the same surroundings.

It is usual for all people, especially those who most indulge in it, to

censure gossip as a crime, as a violation of the Ninth Commandment, as a

proof of idleness and vain curiosity, as a frivolous waste of the time

given us for mental improvement. Yet the censure is seldom serious.

These people cannot but feel obscurely what they are either afraid to

speak out or have not duly considered, that the main object of

conversation is neither instruction nor moral improvement but

_recreation_. It is of course highly desirable that all our amusements

should be both intellectually and morally profitable, and we may look

back with special satisfaction upon any conversation which included

these important objects. But the main and direct object is recreation,

mental relaxation, happy idleness; and from this point of view it is

impossible for any sound theory of conversation to ignore or depreciate

gossip, which is perhaps the main factor in agreeable talk throughout

society.

The most harmless form is the repeating of small details about

personages great either in position or intellect, which give their empty

names a personal colour, and so bring them nearer and more clearly into

view. The man who has just come from the society of kings and queens, or

great generals, or politicians, or literary men whose names are

exceptionally prominent at the time, can generally furnish some personal

details by which people imagine they can explain to themselves great and

unexpected results. Who has not heard with interest such anecdotes about

Mr. Gladstone, or Prince Bismarck, or Victor Emanuel? And what book has

ever acquired more deserved and lasting reputation than Boswell’s _Life

of Johnson_?

The latest development of the literary side of gossip is to be seen in

what are called the ’society papers,’ which owe their circulation to

their usefulness in furnishing topics for this kind of conversation.[10]

All the funny sketches of life and character which have made _Punch_ so

admirable a mirror of society for the last fifty years, are of the

character of gossip, subtracting the mischievous element of personality;

and though most people will think this latter an essential feature in

our meaning when we talk of gossip, it is not so; it is the trivial and

passing, the unproven and suspected, which is the main thing, for it is

quite possible to bring any story under the notion while suppressing the

names of the actors.

Footnote 10:

I only speak of the _fact_ that they are useful in supplying a want.

Whether they are or are not corrupting the public mind is another and

a very serious question.

Next to the retailing of small personal points about great people comes

the narrating of deeper interests belonging to small people, especially

the affairs of the heart, which we pursue so assiduously even in feigned

characters. But here it is that all the foibles of our neighbours come

under survey, and that a great deal of calumny and slander may be

launched upon the world by mere shrug and innuendo. The reader will

remember with what effect this side of gossip is brought out in

Sheridan’s _School for Scandal_.

§ 37. It is idle to deny that there is no kind of conversation more

fascinating than this, but its immorality may easily become such as to

shock honest minds, and the man who indulges in it freely at the expense

of others, will probably have to pay the cost himself in the long run;

for those who hear him will fear him, and will retire into themselves in

his presence. On the other hand, nothing is more honourable than to

stand forth as the defender or the palliator of the faults imputed to

others, and nothing is easier than to expand such a defence into general

considerations as to the purity of human motives, which will raise the

conversation from its unwholesome ground into the upper air.

If the company be fit for it, no general rule is more valuable than that

of turning the conversation away from people and fixing it on things;

but, alas! how many there are who only take interest in people, and in

the weakest and most trivial aspects of people! Few things are more

essential and more neglected in the education of children than to

habituate them to talk about things, and not people; yet, what use is

there in urging these more special rules, when the very idea of teaching

them to converse at all is foreign to the minds of most parents and of

all educators? Let me illustrate this by one grotesque fact.

It will be conceded that the one thing absolutely essential to the

education of a lady is that she should talk agreeably at meals. It is

the natural meeting time, not only of the household, but of friends, and

conversation is then as essential as food. Yet, what is the habit of

many of our schools? They either enforce silence at this period, or they

compel the wretched pupils to speak in a foreign language, in which they

can only labour out spasmodic commonplaces, without any interchange or

play of thought. Consequently many of our girls drift into the habit of

regarding meal-times as the precise occasion when conversation is

impossible. How far this mis-education, during some of the most critical

years of their lives, affects them permanently it is not easy to

over-estimate. If parents were decently intelligent in this matter they

should ascertain clearly the practice of a school, and the schoolmaster

or schoolmistress who is obtuse and mischievous enough to practise this

crime should at once lose every pupil.

The only excuse I can find for this widespread outrage upon the social

rights of the young, is the old tradition of universities, still pursued

in convent schools and Roman Catholic seminaries, that a portion of

scripture, or of some edifying book, should be read out during meals, so

that the pupils may take in spiritual food along with their dinners, and

avoid the crime of light and trivial conversation. A clever Jesuit

educator whom I knew, went so far within the letter of the law as to

substitute the _Saturday Review_ for the usual work of edification, the

_Lives of the Saints_! This worthy man did his best under a system

devised to bring up young people in silence and in fear, not in free and

friendly intercourse with their instructors. But why should we, with our

spiritual liberty, retain these mischievous and antiquated shackles?

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