The SOLICITOR-GENERAL--My Lords, I will not take up the time of the

Court in making any answer to the objection stated, as to the manner in

which the watch and the other articles are described in the indictment,

as I have no hesitation to say that it does not deserve one. All these

articles, as well as the other articles libelled on, have been for weeks

past lying in the hands of the Clerks of Court, where the counsel and

agents for the pannels have had full opportunity of examining and taking

from them whatever description they might think proper.

As to the story of the trunk, it is shortly this: there were two trunks

the property of Mr. Brodie; and one of them, containing linens and other

articles, was, from motives of humanity, allowed to remain in his

possession. This was the trunk referred to in the indictment; the other

was, however, sent by mistake to the Justiciary Office, but as soon as

the error was discovered, Mr. Brodie was applied to to deliver up the

proper trunk. This he refused to do, and therefore it became necessary

to apply to the Sheriff, who granted a warrant; in consequence of which

it was recovered from the prisoner and lodged in the Justiciary Office.

This is the plain state of the fact, and, having laid it before your

Lordships, I do not consider it necessary to add one word more to the

subject.

The LORD ADVOCATE--My Lords, if it had been intended to charge the

prisoners with stealing the watch, or any of the other articles, a more

accurate description might have been necessary, but here there is no

such intention--the crime of which the prisoners are accused is breaking

into the Excise Office.

From the nature of the thing, my Lords, as well as from the tenor of the

indictment, it must be evident to every one that it is only meant to

produce these articles in evidence, to refer to them when the witnesses

are examined. It may be necessary, for example, to prove that certain

letters were found in the chest, and to whom the chest belonged; it is

no matter of what form the chest is, and not of the smallest consequence

whether it is identified or not; nay, more, my Lords, there was no

necessity for producing it at all. If every nail of a trunk or every

trinket of a watch, or other articles which it might be necessary to

found upon in trials of this kind, were to be so particularly described

as Mr. Wight has contended for, it would swell indictments to a very

inconvenient and unnecessary length.

The objection that the proper trunk was not produced in sufficient time

to give the prisoner an opportunity of examining it is certainly a very

uncommon one, when it is considered that it was allowed to remain in his

own possession until yesterday; and with regard to the watch, all the

use I mean to make of it is to identify some letters from Mr. Brodie,

which are sealed with the seal appended to it.

The DEAN OF FACULTY--My Lords, what may be the consequence to the

prisoners at the bar of your Lordships repelling the present objection I

do not know. The gentlemen on the other side of the table have taken

care to lay their indictment in such a manner as to leave the counsel

for the prisoners altogether in the dark as to the nature of the proof

they mean to lead and the manner in which these articles are to be used

in evidence; but, my Lords, sure I am of this, that the decision of the

present question is of the greatest importance to the law of this

country. I am not surprised that the Solicitor-General should say that

he will make no answer to the objection, because I am convinced that it

admits of none.

It is no light matter the framing of an indictment; the specification of

the proofs by which it is to be supported is of the utmost consequence.

I am persuaded, my Lords, that I would have no difficulty to satisfy

your Lordships, from the nature of the thing itself, that this objection

is well founded. But I resort to better evidence. I appeal to the Books

of Adjournal on your Lordships’ table, and I call upon the counsel for

the Crown to point out one single instance recorded in them where

articles have been founded on in an indictment and produced in evidence

without being specially described. Having so respectable an authority as

the uniform practice of your Lordships and your predecessors to support

the objection now stated, you will think well before you introduce an

innovation that may be attended with the most dangerous consequences.

We are told that some of the articles in question are of no consequence;

if so, why are they here? I will not enter into the question whether the

trunk was really produced in the Justiciary Office in proper time or

not, as all the indictment says is, that “it will be produced.”

My Lords, there are two kinds of articles produced in criminal trials,

first the _corpora delicti_, to prove that the crime was actually

committed; and, secondly, articles from which the leading circumstances

are to be inferred. The Lord Advocate admits that the first of these

must be particularly described, but denies the necessity of describing

the second. This is a distinction not known in the law of this country,

and directly contrary to the established forms of criminal procedure.

What would be the consequence were it recognised? Suppose, for instance,

that a person breaks into a house and leaves his hat behind him; nothing

could establish his guilt more clearly than to prove that this hat was

his. But although this is only a leading circumstance, would it be

enough to say that a hat was to be produced in evidence, without

specifying where it was found, or any circumstances attending it, so as

to give the accused an opportunity of proving that it belonged to

another, and not to him?

I will appeal, my Lords, to the practice of the public prosecutor

himself, to show that no such distinction exists. A declaration is an

article used in evidence as well as a gold watch, yet his Lordship does

not think it sufficient to say “a declaration,” without specifying any

other circumstances, such as before whom, and of what date, it was

emitted. On the contrary, there are several declarations referred to in

this indictment, and they are all particularly described. It is the duty

of the public prosecutor to specify every particular, and to say what is

meant to be proved by each article, or in what manner it has been used

in the commission of the crime charged. In the case of Gordon, the

sheep-stealer, a man for whom I was counsel at this bar several years

ago, and who still languishes in prison, notwithstanding his having

received His Majesty’s pardon[1]--your Lordships refused to allow an

article to be produced in evidence which had not been libelled on: and

the articles objected to might as well not have been libelled on at all,

as in the general and vague manner in which they are mentioned in the

indictment.

My Lords, there is another circumstance to which I beg to draw your

Lordships’ particular attention. It is our good fortune to live under a

mild Government; to live in days when there is no danger to be

apprehended from the conduct of the public prosecutor; but worse times

may arrive, and it is for your Lordships to reflect upon what use might

then be made of the present practice if your Lordships were to allow it

to be now introduced. The public prosecutor may, for example, libel upon

a watch, and the Clerk of Court may show one watch in the Justiciary

Office to the prisoner’s counsel or agent, and against the day of trial

may produce another in Court. The principal reason why articles such as

the present are mentioned in the indictment is that the prisoner may be

certain that these articles, and these articles alone, are to be used in

evidence against him; and it is clear that this certainty must be

withdrawn from the prisoner if a vague description is permitted to be

given of them, because, as I have already mentioned, others may be

substituted in their place. If an article of evidence be not

particularly described so as to prevent the possibility of doubt with

regard to the identity of it, the dearest rights of mankind might be

endangered and at the mercy of corrupt men, and no one could say how

fatal the consequences might be.

The LORD ADVOCATE--My Lords, I admit the justice of what the Dean of

Faculty has stated if such an objection as the present were made to the

description of the _corpora delicti_. If the prisoners were charged with

having stolen the watch or trunk mentioned in the indictment, the

description there given of them would not be sufficient; but, as they

are not the _corpora delicti_, and are only referred to as circumstances

of evidence, I contend that the description is sufficient; but, rather

than detain the Court longer with an objection of this kind, I will give

up the trunk altogether, as I do not suppose that I shall stand in need

of it; I, however, submit the matter to the Court.

The LORD JUSTICE-CLERK--Your Lordships have heard the objection and

answers on this point. What is your opinion?

Lord HAILES--My Lords, there is no objection made to the production of

the different papers founded on in the indictment, and I do not perceive

that there is any force in the objection as to the gold watch; because,

although the pannel’s counsel cannot know, from the manner in which it

is described in the indictment, what is meant to be proved by it,

neither do they know what is intended to be proved by the different

witnesses who are cited.

The objection with regard to the trunk appears to me to be much more

strong; and I confess that I never saw any article so vaguely stated in

an indictment as it is in the present case, viz., “a trunk containing

various articles.” It is no good answer to the objection that the proper

trunk was not timeously produced, that it was allowed to remain in

Brodie’s possession, because that article is founded on in the libel

against Smith as well as against him. I am therefore inclined to sustain

the objection as to the trunk, but no further.

Lord ESKGROVE--My Lords, I am not disposed to abridge in the smallest

degree the security of the subjects of this country, although the law is

here more attentive to the safety of persons accused than in any other

country whatever. Here the pannel must not only be furnished with the

names and designations of the witnesses, but he must also be made

acquainted with every document and article to be used in evidence

against him.

In the present case there are a number of writings, and likewise a

variety of articles, founded on in the indictment; there is no objection

to the production of the papers, but it is objected on the part of the

pannel that the other articles are not particularly described. I do not

think, my Lords, that this objection is much aided by the argument

founded on the declarations and other parts of the libel being more

particularly described than these articles.

The Dean of Faculty has referred your Lordships to the Books of

Adjournal, from which he says that it appears to have been the practice

to describe such articles more minutely; but I have no doubt that a

perusal of these books would furnish many instances where articles have

been described as loosely as they are said to be in the present libel;

and, my Lords, as the pannel’s counsel have neither produced, nor

offered to produce, any decision of this Court finding libels irrelevant

from the articles referred to in them being thus described, I am bound

to hold the objection to be of no force.

My Lords, I can see no injury that will be sustained by the prisoners by

the repelling of the present objection; all the articles were lodged in

the hands of the Clerk of Court, and their agent and counsel had an

opportunity of examining them. The trunk is no doubt vaguely described,

but that appears to me not to be material, because it will not be

sufficient for a witness to say that he found papers or other articles

in a trunk; he must say that he found them in the trunk shown to him in

Court, otherwise his evidence in that particular will be of no

consequence. If the pannels should say that this is a different trunk,

and that they never saw it before, I would listen to the objection; but

as they cannot, and as I can figure no injury to the prisoners in

repelling this objection, I am for over-ruling it.

Lord STONEFIELD--My Lords, I think the description in this case is

sufficiently full; therefore I am for repelling the objection.

Lord SWINTON--My Lords, the present objection is made in the wrong

place; and I cannot so well judge of it in this general shape as I

could have done had it been stated when the particular articles came to

be used in evidence; but I must judge of it in the form in which it has

been brought before the Court.

I think, my Lords, that it ought to be repelled for the reasons your

Lordships have already heard, and because no injury can be done to the

pannels from these articles not having been more particularly described,

as they will have an opportunity of traversing the evidence that may be

brought relating to them. There are many of the articles, such as two

iron wedges, an iron crow, &c., that would not admit of a more

particular description than has been given. Upon the whole, my Lords, I

am for repelling the objection.

The LORD JUSTICE-CLERK--My Lords, the present question is of great

importance to the law of this country. I am one of those who are always

for giving fair-play to pannels, and will never allow any advantage to

be taken of them; but I am likewise for giving fair-play to evidence. It

is frequently necessary, my Lords, that the testimony of witnesses

should be elucidated by articles referred to being produced; but if the

present objections were sustained, I am afraid it would strike against

the admissibility of this kind of evidence altogether; because, let a

public prosecutor describe such articles with the greatest attention, it

still may be contended that they admitted of a more accurate description

than the one given.

By the former state of our law the prosecutor was not allowed to prove

anything that was not particularly specified in the libel; but the Act

153, Parliament 11th, James VI., was introduced to obviate this defect

in our law, and by that Act the prosecutor is allowed to prove every

circumstance to substantiate the charge, or in general art and part of

the charge. It is very true, my Lords, that the humanity of public

prosecutors of late years has induced them to be more special than they

had any occasion to be, but surely they are not cut off from the

generality allowed them by law, although such generality may have been

deviated from through lenity in practice. Apply this to the present

case. It is true that the Lord Advocate, as public prosecutor, has been

induced to state particular circumstances, and to specify the articles

to be founded on; yet that does not alter the law, nor deprive him of

the generality which he is allowed by law. As the names of witnesses are

given, without specifying what they are to say, in the same way it is

only necessary to state that such articles are to be produced in

evidence, but not necessary to specify a description of them; and it is

the duty of the prisoner himself, or those who act for him, to survey

them when lodged in the Justiciary Office. As there is no precise time

against which articles to be founded on are required to be lodged in

the Justiciary Office, there appears to be no undue delay in lodging

this trunk. Had it been pled that it was not lodged _debito tempore_,

and that the pannel had been injured thereby, then a delay of the trial

must have taken place.

I remember it once happened on a circuit that the articles founded on in

the libel were only lodged the very morning of the trial in the Clerk’s

hands; but I then refused to allow them to be founded on, because the

pannel had not a reasonable time to prepare himself against evidence

that might arise from the production of these articles; but the present

case is very different, and therefore, upon the whole, I am for

repelling the objection.

Mr. JOHN CLERK--My Lord Justice-Clerk, before the interlocutor is

written out, I beg leave to make one objection in behalf of the pannel,

George Smith.

The LORD JUSTICE-CLERK--What! After the Court have delivered their

opinions, it is not decent in you to propose to say anything, and I

apprehend the prisoners are in no danger of suffering anything by your

not being allowed to supply the defects of the Dean of Faculty.

Mr. JOHN CLERK--My Lord, the Dean of Faculty has no authority to plead

for my client.

The DEAN OF FACULTY then moved the Court to allow the general objection

to be entered upon record, and proposed to repeat it and refer to it as

often as any of the particular articles came to be produced in evidence,

which was accordingly agreed to, and the following interlocutor was

pronounced repelling the objection:--

The Lord Justice-Clerk and Lords Commissioners of Justiciary having

considered the foregoing debate, they repel the objection stated to

producing and founding on the articles specified in the objection

and mentioned in the indictment, and allow them to be adduced in

the course of the trial.

ROBT. M‘QUEEN, I.P.D.

The prosecutor, for proof of the indictment, then proceeded to adduce

the following witnesses, who were all lawfully sworn, purged of malice

and partial counsel, and emitted their depositions _viva voce_ in

presence of the Court and jury, without being reduced in writing, in

terms of the late statute.

Evidence for Prosecution.

[Sidenote: William Scott]

1. WILLIAM SCOTT, Procurator-Fiscal of the county of Edinburgh, called

in and sworn.

Examined by Mr. MURRAY--Mr. Scott, you know the prisoners at the bar?

Were you present when they emitted certain declarations before the

Sheriff-depute of Edinburgh and his substitute?

WITNESS--I was.

Mr. MURRAY--Look at these declarations, and tell the Court and the

gentlemen of the jury if they were emitted in your presence by the

pannel, George Smith, freely and voluntarily.

WITNESS--They were; and the prisoner appeared to me at the time cool and

recollected.

Mr. MURRAY--Look at this declaration. Was it emitted in your presence by

the other pannel, William Brodie, freely and voluntarily, and he was

cool and recollected?

WITNESS--It was emitted in my presence freely and voluntarily, and he

was cool and recollected.

Mr. MURRAY--Do you know anything concerning a warrant that was applied

for against William Brodie in the month of March last? If you do, tell

the Court and the gentlemen of the jury what happened in consequence of

it?

WITNESS--Upon the afternoon of Monday, the 10th of March last, I, as

Procurator-Fiscal, gave in a petition in my own name to the Sheriff of

Edinburgh, charging Mr. Brodie with breaking into the Excise Office, and

praying for a warrant to apprehend him. A warrant was accordingly

granted, and search diligently made for him that night, but he was not

found, and I afterwards learned that he had gone off for London on the

day preceding.

Cross-examined by Mr. JOHN CLERK, for George Smith--Mr. Scott, you say

you were present when George Smith emitted the declarations which have

been shown you; did Smith, in the course of his different examinations,

say anything more than is contained in these declarations?

WITNESS--I do not think he did; everything material was taken down. No

compulsion or undue means was used to induce the prisoners to sign these

declarations.

[Sidenote: Joseph Mack]

2. JOSEPH MACK, writer in the Sheriff-Clerk’s Office of Edinburgh,

called in and sworn, and shown the declarations above mentioned.

WITNESS--These declarations were written by me, to the dictation of the

Sheriff, and were emitted by the pannels freely and voluntarily, and the

pannels appeared to me to be cool and recollected when emitting them.

Cross-examined by Mr. JOHN CLERK--Was everything which Smith declared

when examined taken down?

WITNESS--Everything that was material. With regard to the robbery of

Bruce’s shop--[Here the Court stopped the witness, as that was a matter

which was not before them.]

The LORD JUSTICE-CLERK--Did he desire anything to be taken down that was

not?

WITNESS--No.

[Sidenote: Thomas Longlands]

3. THOMAS LONGLANDS, solicitor-at-law in London, called in and sworn.

Examined by MR. WILLIAM TAIT--Mr. Longlands, did you hear of William

Brodie, the prisoner at the bar, having fled from this country in March

last, and of his having been brought back? Tell the Court and the

gentlemen of the jury what you know of the matter?

WITNESS--In the month of June or July last I was employed by the

officers of the Crown for Scotland to take such steps as appeared to me

to be proper for the discovery of Mr. Brodie. In consequence of this

employment I called frequently at the Secretary of State’s Office, and

had several conversations with Mr. Fraser, Under-Secretary in the office

of Lord Carmarthen, and gave them the information I had received from

Scotland. I likewise waited upon Sir Sampson Wright, of the Public

Office, Bow Street, whose assistance I judged necessary to call in as to

the proper measures to be pursued. As the information received gave

reason to suspect that Mr. Brodie was at Flushing, Ostend, or some place

in Holland, it was agreed upon to send a messenger immediately in search

of him. Sir Sampson Wright recommended to me a Mr. Groves from his

office as a proper person to send to the Continent in search of Mr.

Brodie, and I accordingly despatched him with proper instructions. Mr.

Groves traced Mr. Brodie to Ostend, and learned that he had been there

upon the 4th of June, His Majesty’s birthday, and he was afterwards

traced to Amsterdam, where he was apprehended, identified, and committed

to prison. Upon proper application, he was delivered up to Mr. Groves,

and was brought from thence to London by him. Immediately upon his

arrival at London he was examined before Sir Sampson Wright, and

committed to Tothilfields Bridewell; some time afterwards he was sent to

this country. I was present at the examination of the person brought

back from Amsterdam, and I know the prisoner at the bar to be him. There

was a trunk containing linens and a variety of other articles, belonging

to Mr. Brodie, brought with him from Amsterdam; and I received from Mr.

Cartmeal, one of the persons who came along with him, two watches,

twenty crowns, and some other articles, which he said were found upon

Mr. Brodie; and the watch now upon the table I know to be one of them,

having taken particular notice of the maker’s name and number. [The

counsel for the pannels here repeated the objection against adducing the

watch, as mentioned in the general objection and interlocutor before

taken down.] There was likewise another trunk belonging to Mr. Brodie,

which was sent over from Ostend by Sir John Potter, in consequence of a

letter written to him in my presence by Mr. Groves, after Brodie’s

return to London. This trunk, upon its being brought to London, was

opened by Sir Sampson Wright in my presence, and in the course of

examining the contents of it I discovered a wrapper with some papers,

which I opened, and some of the papers appearing to me to be important,

I transmitted them to the Lord Advocate. [Here the unsigned scrolls were

shown to the witness.] Both Sir Sampson Wright and I put our initials to

them, and I am sure that these are the same, as well from seeing my

initials as from the strength of some of the expressions, which made a

great impression upon me at the time. [The state of affairs and letters

of credit were likewise shown to the witness.] I have seen these before;

they came in a packet to Sir Sampson Wright from Mr. Rich, the English

resident at Amsterdam, and Sir Sampson Wright delivered to me the letter

in which they came with them inclosed.

Cross-examined by the DEAN OF FACULTY--Mr. Longlands, have you any other

cause of knowledge concerning the trunks and other articles being the

property of Mr. Brodie, and the same which were brought from Ostend and

Amsterdam, than the information of Sir Sampson Wright and Mr. Groves?

WITNESS--No other cause of knowledge than what I have already mentioned,

namely, the letters accompanying the same, which I saw, and my being

present when the trunks were opened.

[Sidenote: John Geddes]

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