The situation of Captain Asgill and his family afflicts me, but I do

not see what can be done by any one here to relieve them. It cannot be

supposed, that General Washington has the least desire of taking the

life of that gentleman. His aim is to obtain the punishment of a

deliberate murder, committed on a prisoner in cold blood, by Captain

Lippincott. If the English refuse to deliver up or punish this

murderer, it is saying, that they choose to preserve him rather than

Captain Asgill. It seems to me, therefore, that the application should

be made to the English Ministers for positive orders, directing

General Carleton to deliver up Lippincott, which orders being

obtained, should be despatched immediately by a swift sailing vessel.

I do not think any other means can produce the effect desired. The

cruel murders of this kind, committed by the English on our people,

since the commencement of the war, are innumerable. The Congress and

their Generals, to satisfy the people, have often threatened

retaliation, but have always hitherto forborne to execute it; and they

have been often insultingly told by their enemies, that this

forbearance did not proceed from humanity, but fear. General Greene,

though he solemnly and publicly promised it in a proclamation, never

made any retaliation for the murder of Colonel Haynes, and many others

in Carolina, and the people, who now think if he had fulfilled his

promise this crime would not have been committed, clamor so loudly,

that I doubt General Washington cannot well refuse what appears to

them so just and necessary for their common security. I am persuaded

that nothing I could say to him on the occasion would have the least

effect in changing his determination.

Excuse me, then, if I presume to advise the despatching a courier

immediately to London, proposing to the consideration of Ministers the

sending such orders to General Carleton directly. They would have an

excellent effect in other views. The post goes tomorrow morning at ten

o'clock, but as nine days have been spent in bringing the letters here

by that conveyance, an express is preferable.

With sincere esteem, I have the honor to be, &c.

B. FRANKLIN.

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TO COUNT DE VERGENNES.

Passy, August 8th, 1782.

Sir,

Yesterday Mr Oswald communicated to Mr Jay and me a paper he had just

received from his Court, being a copy of the King's order to the

Attorney or Solicitor-General, to prepare a commission to pass the

great seal, appointing him to treal with us, &c. and he showed us a

letter from Mr Secretary Townshend, which expresses his concern, that

the commission itself could not be sent by this courier, the officers

who were to expedite it being in the country, which would occasion a

delay of eight or ten days; but that its being then sent might be

depended on, and it was hoped the treaty might, in the mean time, be

proceeded on. Mr Oswald left with me a copy of the paper, which I

enclose for your Excellency's consideration, and am, with great

respect, Sir, your Excellency's, &c.

B. FRANKLIN.

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COUNT DE VERGENNES TO B. FRANKLIN.

Translation.

Versailles, August 8th, 1782.

I have received, Sir, the letter of this day, with which you have

honored me, and the copy of the power, which Mr Oswald has

communicated to you. The form in which it appears is not that which is

usual on similar occasions, but it has not prevented me from forming

my opinion in the first instance. I have bestowed the greatest

attention on it, and if you will be so good as to favor me with a

visit on Saturday morning, I shall confer with you and Mr Jay, if it

will be convenient for him to accompany you.

I have the honor to be, most sincerely, Sir, your most humble servant,

DE VERGENNES.

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ROBERT R. LIVINGSTON TO B. FRANKLIN.

Philadelphia, August 9th, 1782.

Dear Sir,

Having written to Mr Jay, who I presume is with you, I do not think it

necessary to repeat what I have mentioned to him. We have not heard

from you since March; a very long period, considering the interesting

events that have taken place between that time and this. Many vessels

have arrived without bringing us a line from you. I am apprehensive

that Mr Barclay does not communicate to you the frequent opportunities

that offer of writing. I shall write to him upon the subject.

Sir Guy Carleton and Admiral Digby have informed the General, that a

negotiation for a general peace is now on foot, and that the King, his

master, has agreed to yield the independence of America without making

it conditional. I shall enclose a copy of his letter at large, which

refers to another object; the exchange of prisoners. This great point

once yielded, I see nothing that will obstruct your negotiations,

except three points of discussion, which I have before written to you

about. I wish it had been possible to obtain the estimates I mention,

as they might have been rendered useful to you upon one of them. But

the negligence of the Governors, or Legislatures of the several

States, have rendered all my endeavors hitherto unsuccessful,

notwithstanding repeated promises to give this subject their earliest

attention. The restoration of confiscated property has become utterly

impossible, and the attempt would throw the country into the utmost

confusion.

The fisheries are too important an object for you to lose sight of,

and as to the back lands, I do not conceive that England can seriously

expect to derive any benefit from them, that will be equivalent to the

jealousy that the possession of them would awaken and keep alive

between her and this country. I transmit to you a bill for seventyone

thousand three hundred and eighty livres, being the amount of one

quarter's salary to yourself, and Messrs Jay, Adams, Carmichael, Dana,

and Dumas. No provision is made for the private Secretaries or

contingencies, not having been furnished with an account of them. I

also send bills for the first quarter, commencing in January, so that

you will, on the receipt of this, be enabled to pay one half year's

salary to our Ministers and their Secretaries.

I just now learn, that Carleton has published his and Digby's letter

to the General. The design of this must either be, to see whether the

people of this country will catch so eagerly at the proposition for a

peace, which yields them their independence, as to be careless about

the alliance, or to impress us with an idea, that we are more indebted

for our freedom to the generosity of Great Britain, than to tha

attention of France to our interests in the general treaty. It is not

to be doubted, that the good sense and the gratitude of this country

will defeat both these objects.

I have the honor to be, &c.

ROBERT R. LIVINGSTON.

_P. S._ If Mr Jay should not be at Paris, I must beg you to open and

decipher for him the letter of this month, and the resolution

contained therein, marked on the back, below the seal, _August_, and

send it to him by the earliest opportunity.

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TO ROBERT R. LIVINGSTON.

Passy, August 12th, 1782.

Sir,

I have lately been honored with your several letters, No. 10, March

9th; No. 11, May 22d; and No. 12, May 30th.

The paper, containing a state of the commerce in North America, and

explaining the necessity and utility of convoys for its protection, I

have laid before the Minister, accompanied by a letter, pressing that

it be taken into immediate consideration; and I hope it may be

attended with success.

The order of Congress, for liquidating the accounts between this Court

and the United States, was executed before it arrived. All the

accounts against us for money lent, and stores, arms, ammunition,

clothing, &c. furnished by government, were brought in and examined,

and a balance received, which made the debt amount to the even sum of

eighteen millions, exclusive of the Holland loan, for which the King

is guarantee. I send a copy of the instrument to Mr Morris. In reading

it, you will discover several fresh marks of the King's goodness

towards us, amounting to the value of near two millions. These, added

to the free gifts before made to us at different times, form an object

of at least twelve millions, for which no returns but that of

gratitude and friendship are expected. These, I hope, may be

everlasting. The constant good understanding between France and the

Swiss Cantons, and the steady benevolence of this Crown towards them,

afford us a well grounded hope that our alliance may be as durable and

as happy for both nations; there being strong reasons for our union,

and no crossing interests between us. I write fully to Mr Morris on

money affairs, who will doubtless communicate to you my letter, so

that I need say the less to you on that subject.

The letter to the King was well received; the accounts of your

rejoicings on the news of the dauphin's birth give pleasure here; as

do the firm conduct of Congress, in refusing to treat with General

Carleton, and the unanimous resolutions of the assemblies of different

States on the same subject. All ranks of this nation appear to be in

good humor with us, and our reputation rises throughout Europe. I

understand from the Swedish Ambassador, that their treaty with us will

go on as soon as ours with Holland is finished; our treaty with

France, with such improvements as that with Holland may suggest, being

intended as the basis.

There have been various misunderstandings and mismanagements among the

parties concerned in the expedition of the Bon Homme Richard, which

have occasioned delay in dividing the prize money. M. de Chaumont, who

was chosen by the captains of all the vessels in the expedition as

their agent, has long been in a state little short of bankruptcy, and

some of the delays have possibly been occasioned by the distress of

his affairs. He now informs me, that the money is in the hands of the

Minister of the Marine. I shall in a few days present the Memorial you

propose, with one relating to the prisoners, and will acquaint you

with the answer. Mr Barclay is still in Holland; when he returns he

may take into his hands what money can be obtained on that account.

I think your observations respecting the Danish complaints through the

Minister of France perfectly just. I will receive no more of them by

that channel, and will give your reasons to justify my refusal.

Your approbation of my idea of a medal to perpetuate the memory of

York and Saratoga victories gives me great pleasure, and encourages me

to have it struck. I wish you would acquaint me with what kind of a

monument at York the emblems required are to be fixed on; whether an

obelisk or a column; its dimensions; whether any part of it is to be

marble, and the emblems carved on it, and whether the work is to be

executed by the excellent artists in that way which Paris affords; and

if so, to what expense they are to be limited. This puts me in mind of

a monument I got made here and sent to America, by order of Congress,

five years since. I have heard of its arrival, and nothing more. It

was admired here for its elegant antique simplicity of design, and the

various beautiful marbles used in its composition. It was intended to

be fixed against a wall in the State House of Philadelphia. I know not

why it has been so long neglected; it would, methinks, be well to

inquire after it, and get it put up somewhere. Directions for fixing

it were sent with it. I enclose a print of it. The inscription in the

engraving is not on the monument; it was merely the fancy of the

engraver. There is a while plate of marble left smooth to receive such

inscription as the Congress should think proper.

Our countrymen, who have been prisoners in England, are sent home, a

few excepted, who were sick, and who will be forwarded as soon as

recovered. This eases us of a very considerable charge.

I communicated to the Marquis de Lafayette the paragraph of your

letter which related to him. He is still here, and as there seems not

much likelihood of an active campaign in America, he is probably more

useful where he is. His departure, however, though delayed, is not

absolutely laid aside.

The second changes in the Ministry of England have occasioned, or have

afforded, pretences for various delays in the negotiation for peace.

Mr Grenville had two successive imperfect commissions. He was at

length recalled, and Mr Fitzherbert is now arrived to replace him,

with a commission in due form to treat with France, Spain, and

Holland. Mr Oswald, who is here, is informed by a letter from the new

Secretary of State, that a commission, empowering him to treat with

the Commissioners of Congress, will pass the seals, and be sent him in

a few days; till he arrives, this Court will not proceed in its own

negotiation. I send the _Enabling Act_, as it is called. Mr Jay will

acquaint you with what passes between him and the Spanish Ambassador,

respecting the proposed treaty with Spain. I will only mention, that

my conjecture of that Court's design to coop us up within the Allegany

mountains is now manifested. I hope Congress will insist on the

Mississippi as the boundary, and the free navigation of the river from

which they could entirely exclude us.

An account of a terrible massacre of the Moravian Indians has been put

into my hands. I sent you the papers, that you may see how the fact is

represented in Europe. I hope measures will be taken to secure what is

left of those unfortunate people.

Mr Laurens is at Nantes, waiting for a passage with his family to

America. His state of health is unfortunately very bad. Perhaps the

sea air may recover him, and restore him well to his country. I

heartily wish it. He has suffered much by his confinement.

Be pleased, Sir, to present my duty to the Congress, and assure them

of my most faithful services.

With great esteem, I have the honor to be, &c.

B. FRANKLIN.

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TO ROBERT MORRIS.

Passy, August 12th, 1782.

Sir,

I have received (many of them at the same time) your sundry letters of

March the 23d, April 8th and 17th, May 17th, 18th, two of the 23d and

29th. It would be a satisfaction to me, if you would likewise mention

from time to time the dates of those you receive from me.

Most of your letters press my obtaining more money for the present

year. The late losses suffered in the West Indies, and the unforeseen

necessary expenses the reparation there and here must occasion, render

it more difficult, and I am told, impossible; though the good

disposition of the Court towards us continues perfect. All I can say

on the head of money, more than I have said in preceding letters is,

that I confide you will be careful not to bankrupt your banker by your

drafts; and I will do my utmost that those you draw shall be duly

honored.

The plan you intimate for discharging the bills in favor of

Beaumarchais, though well imagined, was impracticable. I had accepted

them, and he had discounted them, or paid them away, or divided them

amongst his creditors. They were, therefore, in different hands, with

whom I could not manage the transactions proposed. Besides, I had paid

them punctually when they became due, which was before the receipt of

your letter on that subject. That he was furnished with his funds by

the government here, is a supposition of which no foundation appears;

he says it was by a company he had formed; and when he solicited me to

give up a cargo in part of payment, he urged, with tears in his eyes,

the distress himself and associates were reduced to, by our delay of

remittances. I am glad to see that it is intended to appoint a

Commissioner to settle all our public accounts in Europe. I hope he

will have better success with M. Beaumarchais than I have had. He has

often promised solemnly to render an account in two or three days.

Years have since elapsed, and he has not yet done it. Indeed, I doubt

whether his books have been so well kept as to make it possible.

You direct me, in yours of May 17th, to pay over into the hands of Mr

Grand, on your account, such monies belonging to the United States as

may be in Europe, distinct from those to be advanced for the current

year. I would do it with pleasure if there were any such. There may

be, indeed, some in Holland, raised by the new loan, but that is not

in my disposition, though I have no doubt that Mr Adams will, on

occasion, apply it in support of your credit. As to all the aids given

by the crown, all the sums borrowed of it, and all the Dutch loans of

ten millions, though the orders to receive have been given to me, the

payments from the _Tresor Royal_ have all been made on my orders in

favor of Mr Grand, and the money again paid away by him on my drafts

for public services and expenses, as you will see by his accounts; so

that I never saw or touched a livre of it, except what I received from

him in discharge of my salary, and some disbursements. He has even

received the whole six millions of the current year, so that I have

nothing in any shape to pay over to him. On occasion of my lately

desiring to know the state of our funds, that I might judge whether I

could undertake to pay what you were directed to pay to Mr William

Lee, by vote of Congress, as soon as the state of public finances

would admit, Mr Grand wrote me a note, with a short sketch of their

then supposed situation, which I enclose. You will probably have from

him, as soon as possible, a more perfect account; but this will serve

to show, that I could not prudently comply with your wish, of making

that payment to Mr Lee, and I have accordingly declined it; the less

unwillingly as he is entitled by the vote to interest.

I send herewith the accounts of the supplies we have received in

goods, which I promised in my last.

The sum of their value is included in the settlement made with this

Court, mentioned in a former letter. Herewith I also send a copy of

the contract, which has been long in hand, and but lately completed.

The term of the first yearly payment we are to make was readily

changed at my request, from the first to the third year after the

peace; the other marks of the King's bounty towards us will be seen in

the instrument. The interest already due and forgiven amounts to more

than a million and a half. What might become due before the peace is

uncertain. The charges of exchange, commissions, brokerage, &c. of the

Dutch loan, amount to more than five hundred thousand livres, which is

also given, so that we have the whole sum net, and are to pay for it

but four per cent. This liquidation of our accounts with the Court

was completed before the vote of Congress directing it came to hand.

Mr Grand examined all the particulars, and I have no doubt of its

being approved.

Mr Grand, to whom I have communicated your letter of April 17th, will

soon write to you fully. We shall observe the general rule you give

respecting the 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th bills. The attention, care, and

pains necessary to prevent, (by exact accounts of those accepted, and

an examination of those offered,) impositions which are often

attempted by presenting at a distant time, the 2d, 3d, &c. are much

greater than I could have imagined. Much has been saved by that

attention, of which of late we keep an account; but the hazard of loss

by such attempts might be diminished, together with the trouble of

examination, by making fewer small bills.

Your conduct, activity, and address as a financier and provider for

the exigencies of the State, are much admired and praised here, their

good consequences being so evident, particularly with regard to the

rising credit of our country and the value of bills. No one but

yourself can enjoy your growing reputation more than I do.

Mr Grand has undertaken to pay any balance, that may be found due to

Messrs le Couteulx out of the money in his hands. Applying for so

small a sum as 5000 livres would be giving trouble for a trifle, as

all applications for money must be considered in Council.

Mr Grand having already received the whole six millions, either in

money or accepted bills, payable at different periods, I expect he

will deliver up to me the bills for that sum, which you have drawn

upon me, the rather as they express value received by you. I never

heard of any mention here of intended monthly payments, or that the

money could not be obtained but by your drafts. I enclose a letter, by

which the payment was ordered of the last three millions.

I observe what you mention of the order, that the Ministers' salaries

are to be hereafter paid in America. I hereby empower and desire you

to receive and remit mine. I do not doubt your doing it regularly and

timely; for a Minister without money, I perceive, makes a ridiculous

figure here, though secure from arrests. I have taken a quarter's

advance of salary from the 4th of last month, supposing it not

intended to _muzzle_ immediately _the mouth of the ox that treadeth

out the corn_.

With great esteem, I am, &c.

B. FRANKLIN.

_P. S._ Your boys are well, and Mr Ridley and Mr Barclay still in

Holland.

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DAVID HARTLEY TO B. FRANKLIN.

London, August 16th, 1782.

My Dear Friend,

Yours I received by Major Young, together with the work of your

_véritable philosophe_, which is full of humanity. I was not before

that at a loss where I should have looked for my _véritable

philosophe_, in the present actual scene of public politics. Your

honest, anxious, and unremitted endeavors towards the re-establishment

of peace, must endear you to your own country, and to all mankind.

Whatever may have been transacted in America, (if it can be possible,

that the suspicions which you mention should become true, viz. to

tamper with America for a breach of faith, of which some suspicions

seem to be thrown out by the Provinces of Maryland and Philadelphia,)

I can give the strongest testimonies of the constant honor and good

faith of your conduct and correspondencies; and my letters to you will

bear me equal testimony, that I have never thrown out any dishonorable

suggestions to you. When the proposed Congress of your _véritable

philosophe_ shall meet, neither of us need fear its censures, upon the

strictest examination of our correspondence. We will claim the poet's

character of the sincere statesman,

"Who knew no thought, but what the world might hear."

In times of suspicion, it must be some satisfaction to both of us to

know, that no line or word has ever passed between us, but what the

governments of Great Britain, France, and America, might freely peruse

as the words of good faith, peace, and _sweet reconciliation_.

The resolutions of Maryland and Philadelphia, together with the slow

proceedings of our _plenipotentiaries_, and even the doubt suggested,

whether they may not be waiting for events in America, give me much

concern. Not being informed to a certainty of the state of the

negotiation, I have declined any concern with the Ministry upon the

subject of the refugees, &c. My assistance cannot be indispensable

upon that topic, but I deem it indispensable to myself not to be

committed in unknown ground, which, from the points abovementioned,

must appear dubious to me. These are the reasons which I gave to the

Minister for declining. I must, at the same time, give him the justice

of the most absolute and unlimited professions of sincerity for

peace. Whatever divisions there may have been, as you say, suspected

in the Cabinet, there are some of his colleagues still remaining, in

whom I have the greatest confidence for sincerity and good intentions.

The public prints of this country have stated what are called _shades_

of difference as to the mode. Those opinions, which are imputed to Mr

Fox, are certainly most suitable to my opinions. I am free to confess

to you, that my wishes would have been to have taken the most decisive

ground relating to independence, &c. immediately from the 27th of

March last, viz. the accession of the change of Ministry. But I agree

with you in sentiment, viz. to concur with all the good that offers,

when we cannot obtain all the good that we might wish. The situation

of my sentiments at present is, an unbiassed neutrality of

expectation, as events may justify.

I shall be obliged to you for the earliest communications of any

public events in America, that may come to Europe with any public

resolutions of Congress or the Provinces, &c., and all memorials or

negotiations, which may pass between the parties in America. I am very

anxious to have the earliest information to form my opinions upon, and

to be prepared accordingly. My utmost endeavors will always be exerted

to the blessed work of peace.

I am ever, your affectionate

D. HARTLEY.

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