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JOURNAL IN FRANCE IN 1845 AND 1848, WITH LETTERS FROM ITALY IN 1847,

Of Things and Persons Concerning the Church and Education.

by

THOMAS WILLIAM ALLIES, M.A.

Rector of Launton, Oxon.

London:

Longman, Brown, Green, and Longmans,

Paternoster-Row.

1849.

London:

Spottiswoodes and Shaw,

New-street-Square.

TO

OUR SPIRITUAL MOTHER, THE CHURCH IN ENGLAND,

IN THE HOPE

THAT ALL HOLY EXAMPLES MAY PROVOKE US TO LOVE AND TO GOOD WORKS.

CONTENTS.

INTRODUCTION.

PAGE

Introduction 1

Separation and its Evils 2

Mutual Misconceptions 3

Difference in Facts not Principles 4

Position of Church in France 5

General Infidelity 6

Missionary Congregations 7

Educational Establishments 8

Spirit of this Journal 9

JOURNAL IN 1845.

Petit Séminaire at Ivetot 10

Discipline of the House 11

Catechising 12

Refectory 13

Day's Employment 14

Churches of Rome and England 15

Caudebec 16

Church of Caudebec 17

Jumiêges; S. Georges de Boscherville 18

Rouen 19

Curé of the Cathedral 20

Frères des Ecoles Chrétiennes 21

High Mass at Cathedral 22

Notre Dame de bon Secours 23

Ex Voto Tablets 24

Cultus of Blessed Virgin 25

Schools in the Aitre de S. Maclou 26

Dames de l'Adoration du S. Sacrement 27

Mantes: Church of Notre Dame 28

Paris 28

Sœurs de la Charité 28

Séminaire de S. Sulpice 29

Employment of their Day 30

Studies 32

Rules of Life 32

Rule in "Retreats" 34

"Appels" passed through by Candidates 36

Fasts and Jours Maigres 36

Professors have no Salaries 37

Chapel of Garde-Malades 38

S. Denis Restored 38

Parish of S. Sulpice 39

Bishop Luscombe's Chapel 40

M. De Fresne: Number of Christians in Paris 41

Day of the Sisters of Charity 42

Distinction between Primacy and Supremacy of Rome 43

M. Théodore Ratisbonne 44

Cultus of the Blessed Virgin 44

Conversion of M. Alphonse Ratisbonne 45

M. Martin Noirlieu 48

Parish of S. Jacques 49

Dinner at Bishop Luscombe's 50

Mr. Parkes 50

Controversy on the Holy Eucharist 51

S. Sulpice: Grands et Petits Séminaires 52

Studies at S. Sulpice 53

Authorities as to the Dogma of the Roman Church 54

Jesuits: Dames de l'Assomption 55

Their Rules and Objects 56

Value of the Real Presence 57

M. Poileau's School 58

Conversation with M. Galais 59

S. Thomas: Suarez 60

M. D'Alzon: French Preaching 61

L'Abbé Migne's Establishment 61

Conférence de S. Vincent de Paul 62

Devotion to the Blessed Virgin 63

Chapelle Expiatoire 63

Scene at Church of S. Marguerite 64

Discussion on Miracles 64

Refutation of common Infidel Arguments 65

Miracles no certain Proof of the Truth 67

Why there may be none now 67

Anecdote 68

Sermon: giving of Prizes 69

Montmartre: its Calvaire 70

Unauthorised Inscription 70

Church 71

Views of Paris and London 71

M. Galais 71

Conversation with Supérieur of S. Sulpice 72

Le Père Lacordaire: conversation 72

Tiers Ordre of S. Dominic 73

University 73

The Anglican Movement 73

Invincible Ignorance alone excuses not joining the Church 74

Danger of Corruption in the Will 75

Dom Guéranger 77

Anglican Orders 77

Addresses to the Blessed Virgin in Eastern Liturgies 78

Carmelite Nuns 78

Frères des Ecoles Chrétiennes 79

Penitentiary: Contrasts of Paris 80

Notre Dame de Lorette: La Madeleine 81

L'Abbé Ratisbonne 82

Culte of the Blessed Virgin 82

Prayers for the Dead 83

Pantheon 85

Toulouse: Conversation 85

Hotel de Cluny 86

Séminaire d'Issy 87

Maison des Carmes 87

Assemblé Générale de S. Vincent de Paul 88

Sermon on his Fête 90

Position of Royal Family 91

Reims: Cathedral 92

Church of S. Remi 95

Séminaire 96

Practice of Confession 97

Laon: its Site and Cathedral the Type of that of Reims 98

S. Quentin: Church 100

Mass for the Dead 101

Peronne: Amiens 102

Cathedral 103

Grounds of its superior Beauty to other Churches 104

Comparative Proportions 106

General Impression of the Church in France 107

Journey to Abbeville 108

Conversation with Fellow-Traveller 109

British Chapel at Boulogne 110

Home 111

LETTERS FROM FRANCE AND ITALY, 1847.

Change of Religious Condition since Revolution of 1830 112

State of Workmen in Paris 113

Progress of the Church 114

Les Missions Etrangères 115

Sœurs de la Charité 116

Genoa: Père Jourdain 117

Barefooted Carmelites 118

Ospitaletto 118

Pammatone: Albergo dei Poveri 119

The Ascetic and Monastic Life 120

Dress of the Women: Churches 121

Milan: Visit to Manzoni 122

State of the Clergy and Church 123

Rosmini's Philosophy 123

Duomo 124

Perpetual religious Service 126

Visit to l'Addolorata and l'Estatica 127

Previous Account of Maria Domenica Lazzari 128

Cavalese: Approach to Capriana 130

Cottage of Domenica 130

Her State (Thursday) on entering it 131

Her altered Condition (Friday) 132

Conversation with her 133

Points of her Case 134

Neumarkt: Caldaro 136

History of Maria Mörl 136

Visit to her 137

Impression made by these Cases 139

Second Account of Visit to l'Addolorata and l'Estatica 140

Avignon; Genoa; Milan 141

The Duomo; S. Charles Borromeo 142

Desenzano; Riva; Trent 143

Capriana: History of Domenica 144

Her state at the Visit 145

Conversation 146

Points of her Case 147

View of her Case 148

Maria Mörl, l'Estatica 149

Position of Trent 150

Third Account of Visit to l'Addolorata and l'Estatica 150

Interview with Bishop of Trent 151

Road to Neumarkt 152

Cavalese and Capriana 152

State of l'Addolorata 153

Dates respecting her Case 154

Her State on Friday 155

Impression of her Case 156

Her apparent State of Mind 157

Visit to l'Estatica 158

Verona; Venice 159

The Pozzi and Piombi 160

Ducal Palace and S. Mark's 161

Catholic and Uncatholic Worship 162

Grand Canal 163

Impressions of Venice 164

Scene on Grand Canal 165

Skill of Gondoliers 167

S. Giovanni e Paolo: Religious Worship at Venice 168

Milan; Duomo: Feast of the Assumption 169

Early Communion 170

JOURNAL OF 1848.

Church of Graville 172

Ivetot: Addresses to Confirmans 173

Life of the Priests here 174

The Archbishop: Confirmation 175

Address of Archbishop 176

The Confirmation 176

Verses on a Tutor's Mishap 178

Fécamp: Abbey Church 179

Notre Dame de Salut 180

Rouen 180

Carmelite Nunnery 181

Archevêché 182

Labour of the Confessional 183

Notre Dame de bon Secours 184

Dinner with the Archbishop 185

High Mass in Cathedral 186

Roman Catholic Worship 187

The Incarnation applied to Daily Life 188

Seminary of M. L'Abbé Lambert 189

Value of Celibacy in conducting Education 190

Notre Dame de Mantes 192

Paris 193

L'Abbé Ratisbonne 193

Aspect of Paris 194

Bishop of Langres 195

Missionary Life in China 196

Père de Ravignan 197

Les Missions Etrangères: Salle des Martyrs 198

M. Voisin: Religion of the Chinese 199

M. Galais: View about the last Revolution 200

New Archbishop of Paris 201

Conversation with Père de Ravignan 202

Supérieur Général des Pères Lazaristes 203

Foundation and Objects of this Institution 204

Their Missions: Greek Church 205

Miraculous Cure of a Novice of the Sisters of Charity 206

Conversation with this Novice 208

Société de la Rue Picpus 210

Its Founder and Objects 211

Benediction at M. L'Abbé Ratisbonne's Chapel 214

Conversation: Story of an Apparition 215

Another Apparition, to M. Ratisbonne 217

Conversation with M. Gondon 218

Interview with Bishop of Amatha 219

Society of the Maristes 219

Missions in Oceania 220

Hôpital Necker 222

Institution des Aveugles 223

Les Enfans Trouvés 225

Conversation with le Père de Ravignan 227

Liberalism in the National Assembly 228

The Roman Primacy 228

Distribution of Prizes at petit Séminaire 229

Les Dames de Bon Secours 232

M. de Montalembert: his Reception 232

Opinion of the State of England 233

Anecdote of General Bédeau 234

S. Germain des Prés 234

Modern Martyrs in China 235

Gerente's Painted Glass 236

Mr. A. Coppinger: State of France 237

The last Revolution 238

M. Defresne: Conversation 238

Religion at Ecole Polytechnique 239

M. des Billiers: Prospects of France 240

Conversation with M. Gondon 241

Benediction at the House of the Sisters of Charity 242

Unpublished Letters of S. Vincent de Paul 243

M. des Billiers: Anecdote of a Legitimist 244

Sermon at S. Roch 245

Service of l'Archiconfrèrie du très Saint Cœur de Marie,

at Notre Dame des Victoires 248

Address of l'Abbé des Genettes 249

Père de Ravignan-- 250

M. des Billiers: the Claim of Universal Jurisdiction 251

M. Gabet: State of Thibet 251

Discovery of Grand Lama 254

Religiousness of the Eastern Mind 255

Cure of Blindness before the Shrine of S. Vincent de Paul 256

Mr. Coppinger: Conversation 257

Le Père Lacordaire: the Primacy 258

Government of the Papacy 259

Value of Oral Tradition 260

Una Fides: Unum Corpus 262

Separation inexcusable 264

M. Defresne 264

Cure of Blindness 265

M. Bonnetty 266

M. l'Abbé Pététot 266

Effects of last Revolution 266

His Visit to l'Addolorata and l'Estatica 267

Reception at Comte Montalembert's 270

M. Galais: Miracles in the Church 271

The Jesuits 272

Principles of the Representants 272

Infidelity of the Masses 273

The Law of Continence 274

Le Père Lacordaire in the Assembly 276

The National Assembly 277

Père de Ravignan: State of the Church in France and Italy 278

The Fewness of the Saved 279

The Papal Primacy 280

Bossuet's Gallicanism 281

La Madeleine: Address of M. Pététot 282

Dress of the Clergy 283

Dinner at M. de Noirlieu's 284

The late Archbishop 284

Catholicism and Protestantism in France 285

Oppression of the Church 286

Funeral Oration on the Archbishop 286

His Character and Sacrifice of Self 287

Couvent des Oiseaux 289

Value of the Vie de Communauté in the Work of Education 290

Les Dames du Sacré Cœur 292

Maison des Carmes 293

Reminiscences of this House 294

Its Connection with the late Archbishop 295

Prizes given to the Blind 296

Dames de la Visitation 296

Importance of _Vocation_ 298

Subject of the Blessed Virgin's Intercession 299

It is involved in the Communion of Saints 300

Œuvre de S. Nicolas 301

Its Object and Rules 302

Instruction given 304

Work of the Sisters of Charity in it 304

Superintendence of the Brethren 305

Rewards: Recreations 306

Its Founder, M. de Bervanger 307

Work of the Celibate 308

Anglican and Roman Catholic Education 309

Sœurs de la Charité 310

Their Superior's Pastoral Letter 311

Account of the Two Cures before the Shrine of S. Vincent 311

Surgeon's Attestation 312

Detailed Relation of the Cure of the Sister Marie Javelle 315

Detailed Relation of the Cure of Céleste l'Allemand 320

Observations on these Cures by the Superior General 324

Orleans: Bourges 326

Cathedral of S. Stephen 326

Seminaire: Conversation with Superior 328

Amiens 330

CONCLUSION.

Prominence and Power of the Doctrine of the Real Presence 331

Its Relation to the Priesthood and Monastic Orders 333

Its Connection with the Doctrine of the Intercession of

Saints 334

And with the System of Confession 336

Importance of this System 337

And of the Doctrine of the Forgiveness of Sins 338

The Church of Rome a Church in Action 339

The Want of Signs and Symbols among us a real practical

Deficiency 340

Use of the Latin Language in Services of the Church 342

Reservation of the Cup 344

Preaching without Book 345

Aspect of the French Church 346

Its Bishops and Priests 347

The Daily Sacrifice 348

The Cure of Souls 349

Theory and Fact 350

Education of the Priesthood by the S. Sulpiciens 350

Importance of an uniform Type and Discipline 351

Want of this and of a dogmatic Standard among Ourselves 352

Appointment of Bishops 353

Preparation of Missionaries 354

The whole Roman Communion 356

1. Its Extent 357

2. Its Doctrine, uniform and systematic 361

3. Its Internal Discipline 363

4. Its Vital Principle 364

5. Its Generative Power 365

Conclusion 366

APPENDIX.

Tableaux des Devoirs d'un Seminariste 368

INDEX. 383

INTRODUCTION.

Of the vast number of English men and English women who have travelled

on the Continent in late years, comparatively few, I imagine, have

deemed it worth their while to give much thought and attention to the

action of the Church in the countries they have visited. Doubtless all

have entered the material fabrics of Roman Catholic worship, but

generally it has been to treat them as public monuments, rather than

as "the house of prayer for all nations." But how many of those

travellers who enjoy leisure and independence have made it their study

to understand those manifold institutions for the education of the

clergy or the laity, for the consolation of the suffering, for the

instruction of the poor and outcast, or for the advancement of the

interior life, by which the Church christianises the world, and lays

hold of the heart of humanity? I am not now expressing an opinion

whether the whole Roman system be true or false, pure or corrupt; I am

looking at it simply as a _fact_. And in this view, perhaps, there is

no object on the face of the earth so worthy of contemplation by the

thoughtful mind as the Roman Church. As an English Churchman, I do not

think it truthful, honest, christian, or safe, to shut my eyes to such

a _fact_ existing in the world. It seems to me that one ought to

endeavour to understand it. Those who strive to rekindle ancient

animosities, those who take not the trouble to understand doctrines as

taught by their professors, but wilfully misconceive and mis-state

them; those even who rest contented in a state of separation, do they

not sin against Him, who in the days of His humiliation prayed to His

Father, "that they all may be one, as Thou, Father, art in Me, and I

in Thee, that they also may be one in Us; that the world may believe

that Thou hast sent Me." Do they in the least realise the fact that

the Church of England considers the Church of Rome to be quite as

truly a part of the Church Catholic as she is herself?

Thus it is that between the two communions there has grown up a

prodigious ignorance of each other's true state. I have found well

informed Roman Catholic ecclesiastics ignorant that we possess a

ritual, use fixed prayers, have a regular hierarchy; while scarcely

any one is aware that we have a form of absolution as categorical as

their own, and one which presupposes special confession. They

are in the habit of taking for granted that we have no succession,

besides asserting that our orders are invalid through defect of the

formularies. The present Pope, conversing lately with an English

clergyman, seriously inquired of him, whether we administered, what,

in condescension to the supposed feelings of his auditor, he termed

"la cena," once a year; and whether we passed the cup from hand to

hand? Two notions, I imagine, which must have given him the poorest

impression of the Anglican communion which a Roman Catholic could

have. And in conversing with theologians, they ordinarily direct

themselves against merely Protestant feelings and arguments, such as

touch the Lutherans and Calvinists abroad, or dissenters here, but

which have nothing to do with English Churchmen.

But Roman Catholic ignorance of us is, I think, almost exceeded by our

ignorance of them.

Would that I could be in any degree instrumental to the removal of a

prejudice, or the clearing up of a misconception. My means of

observation have not been large, my time very limited; but I have seen

enough to be convinced, that those who hate and denounce the Roman

Church most violently, do not hate and denounce her more than she

would that thing which they suppose to be the Roman Church.

If both sides knew each other well, if all had been done which

could be done for a reconciliation, and the present state of enmity

and opposition still subsisted, it would indeed be a grievous prospect

for the future; but when ignorance and misapprehensions make up so

much of the difference between the Churches, are we not to hope for

better things? Is not Providence teaching us, by what is taking place

on both sides, that the Church of God in all lands must unite against

the common foe? Is He not removing on both sides the impediments to

that union?

Moreover, an English Churchman conversing with a Roman Catholic will

find, in proportion as both are earnest-minded, that they have

generally the same friends and the same enemies, the same likings and

the same antipathies, which, if the great heathen philosopher be

correct, is a strong proof of an inward identity.[1] Very rarely

indeed will they differ in _principle_, though sometimes in _facts_;

the inward character will be the same in both.

The only merit of the following journal, if it have any, is the

attempt to see things as they are in the Roman Catholic system; to put

off all preconceived prejudices, not condemning that which is contrary

to what one is accustomed to meet, but endeavouring to understand the

principle on which it rests. It is nearly restricted to France,

but perhaps that country is for more than one reason the most

interesting part of the Roman Catholic communion at present. There the

divorce, which all the governments of Christendom are now enacting on

the Church, has been accomplished with the most harshness, contumely,

and tyranny. The ample estates surrendered by the French clergy, in

noble reliance on the generosity of their country, have been taken

possession of by the state, which, admitting that the vast majority of

its people are Catholic at least in profession, has recompensed this

surrender by a grant to the clergy, yearly repeated, not a dotation

once for all, and that in amount so unspeakably mean and inadequate,

that every Frenchman of honour and feeling must blush for his country

as he thinks upon it. The immense majority of curés throughout France

receive from the state a stipend of 32_l._ a year, in larger

populations this is extended to 48_l._, in the largest of all to

60_l._ Moreover, in France the state has done or is doing, what in

England it will also do if it can; it sets up in every parish a

schoolmaster without a creed, to teach children all kinds of useful

knowledge, from which only a definite creed is excluded, and to be an

antagonist to the clergyman in his proper sphere. Then the existing

generation of Frenchmen has been brought up since the tide of

infidelity swept over their land; in too many cases they are not

only infidels in present practice, but even their childish thoughts

and associations were not Christian. The full harvest of the terrible

convulsion of 1789 is being reaped--alas, it is far from being yet

gathered in! Infidelity not only stalks openly through the land, but

bears open sway in it. There is nothing on which all those with whom I

spoke were more agreed than that "le respect humain" was against the

Church and against religion. What a fact is this alone, whereby to

estimate the state of a country. If "hypocrisy be the homage which

vice pays to virtue," where stands that country whose public opinion

requires no hypocrisy in the open profession of unbelief? For these

and other reasons, then, I conceive that the Church of God is best

seen in France working by her own intrinsic powers, not only unaided

by the world, but most cruelly afflicted by it, and so externally

oppressed and degraded, that nothing but the irrepressible life of the

Gospel could penetrate and leaven society under such conditions. God

grant that such a state of things be not preparing in England--and if

it be, God grant likewise that the Church, in the day of her need, may

have servants and handmaidens, priests, teachers, and sisters of

charity, as disinterested, laborious, patient, and zealous, as He has

raised up for her in France. This further may be said, that, if France

as a nation be ever brought afresh under the yoke of her Saviour,

no condition of human society need be despaired of; nor the

capacity of the Church of Christ to overcome any amount of obstacles

doubted.

Of course the institutions mentioned in this journal are but samples

of a multitude. None will feel more than the writer its great

incompleteness. Still this is a field of observation which has been

little worked; so that the mere partial breaking of its surface may

produce fruit.

It may be as well to put together here the five congregations in

France mentioned in different places of the journal, which are engaged

in missionary work. They are "la Congregation des Prêtres de la Mission,"

or, "les Pères Lazaristes," Rue de Sèvres, 95.; the "Séminaire des

Missions Etrangères," Rue du Bac, 120.; the "Congrégation des Sacrés

Cœurs" (Séminaire de Picpus), Rue Picpus, 9.; the Jesuits, and the

Maristes. The "Congrégation du Saint Esprit," for forming priests for

the colonies, Rue des Postes, 26., I did not visit. These, with the

"Congrégation de la Miséricorde," form all the French missionary

establishments. I think no one can give even a transient look at the

course of life pursued by the St. Sulpiciens for the education of the

clergy, without admiration of the astonishing care of the interior

life taken by them, and the pains they are at to ascertain the due

vocation for so special a work.

The chief establishments of the Church for education are the grands

séminaires in each diocese, for preparation for holy orders; and the

petits séminaires, both under the direction of the bishops, the latter

receiving boys for all sorts of professions. In these two classes of

establishments alone, as a general rule, is strict attention paid to

the religious training of the pupils. The royal colleges, which extend

all over France, have been by all described to me as in the most

corrupt moral condition, and as suffering their professors to instil

systematic infidelity into their pupils. Of course the vast majority

of the youth of the country is educated in these colleges. The result

is seen in their lives. For the female sex, the chief congregations

devoted to education are "Les Dames du Sacré Cœur," in Paris, Rue

de Varennes; "Les Dames de Notre Dame" (couvent des Oiseaux, Rue de

Sèvres); "Les Dames de la Visitation." Each has a great number of

houses through France and elsewhere. For the poorer classes, "Les

Frères de la Doctrine Chrétienne," and the various sisters of charity,

are of incalculable benefit: they are very numerous, and widely

spread. Their disinterested and loving labours would be the greatest

of blessings to our parish priests, engaged in conflict with a hard

practical heathenism on the one side, and on the other, with various

forms of dissent, the essence of which may be said to consist in a

complete negation of the Church's office in the scheme of

redemption, and, generally, of all objective belief beyond the

sacrifice of our Lord for the sins of men, and the operation of the

Holy Spirit.

It will be seen throughout, that I do not consider non-appreciation of

the good in the Roman Catholic faith and practice a necessary

ingredient of the English Churchman's character. I am quite convinced

that the reunion of the English Church with the Church of Rome would

be an incalculable blessing to the whole Church of God, and to the

whole human race. Whoever made the separation, we need not despair of

such a reunion; the right accomplishment of which good persons, on

both sides, may earnestly hope and pray for.

[1] Arist. Rhet., lib. 2. 4.

JOURNAL.--1845.

_Tuesday, June 24._--Reached Southampton from Oxford in good time,

and left by the packet at 10 P.M. We passed the experimental fleet

off Portsmouth, had a very fair passage, and were at the mouth of

Havre about ten: but for two hours we could not enter; the swell was

considerable. At Havre, took our places to Ivetot, which we reached

about half-past-nine. The country rich but uninteresting.

_Ivetot, June 26. 1845. Thursday._--We called on M. Labbé a little

before ten, and were with him till half-past-three. His brother is

Supérieur of the Petit Séminaire, in which are 225 youths. The whole

payment, on an average, is 360 francs per annum for board and

instruction; some paying as little as 200 francs, some as much as 500,

but no difference whatever is made between them. The children are

evidently on the most affectionate terms with the masters. "There are

twelve priests, a deacon and sub-deacon, and three clerks in minor

orders."--_M._[2] They attend confession once a month, and it

is very rare that they fail in this: this is the rule of the house;

but should any avoid it much longer, his confessor would not speak to

him authoritatively at all, or send for him, but rather take an

opportunity of referring incidentally to his absence. This hardly ever

fails. "They generally thank him for doing so, the reason being

something about which they were unable to get themselves to break the

ice."--_M._ They live entirely with their pupils; sleeping, eating,

playing, teaching: in the centre of a large dormitory, with beds on

both sides, was a bed, nowise distinguished from the rest save that it

had a chair beside it; here the Supérieur sleeps. His salary is 1000

francs a year; that of the others about 600. They said, laughing, that

it was hardly what a servant in England would receive. The Supérieur

has a very pleasing and paternal aspect. We heard him catechise the

children in the chapel for some time; their answers were good. Several

were on the sacraments, and the reply to them definite and

precise:--'Which is the most indispensable sacrament?' 'Baptism.' 'How

many sorts of baptism are there?' 'The baptism of water, of blood, and

of desire.' 'Can any sacrament be administered by other than a

priest?' 'Yes, baptism in case of necessity.' 'Can any other?' 'None,

Sir.' 'What conditions are necessary to receive the sacrament of

Penance?' 'Five.' 'Are there any of those more indispensable than

others?' 'Yes, fervent sorrow for sin past, and a resolution not to

offend God by sinning any more.' 'If a priest conferred absolution on

a person who gave no outward sign of penitence, from his state of

sickness, would it benefit him?' 'If he was able to make interior

actions of the soul, it would; not otherwise.' ('The Church,' said M.

Labbé in explanation, 'would prefer bestowing a sacrament _often_

inutilement, to denying it once where it might benefit.') 'Which are

the three chief Christian graces?' 'Faith, Hope, and Charity.' 'Which

is the most perfect?' 'Charity.' 'Why?' 'Because it presupposes the

other two' (I think); and, again, 'because it will last for ever.'

'Will Faith last for ever?' 'Non, Monsieur.' 'Why?' 'Parceque, quand

nous verrons Dieu, nous n'aurons pas besoin de le croire.' 'Will you

see God?' 'Oui, avec nos propres yeux.' 'You have just received

confirmation; what does it make him who receives it?' 'Un parfait

Chrétien.' 'Etes-vous donc un parfait Chrétien?' With hesitation,

'Oui, Monsieur.' 'Etes-vous un Chrétien parfait?' 'Non, Monsieur.'

'Quelle est la différence?' 'Un parfait Chrétien est celui qui a tous

les moyens pour parvenir au salut--un Chrétien parfait est celui

qui est sans péché' 'En y-a-t'il?' 'Non, Monsieur' (with hesitation).

'Non, mon enfant, il n'y en a pas.'

"The chapel is a pretty and simple building of the early decorated

character, designed by Père Robert, who was formerly an engineer. The

windows and buttresses are in excellent taste; and the ceiling, though

of sham stone, is so well done that I doubted whether it were not

real, though a look at the buttresses, after seeing the interior,

would convince one of the contrary. There is a subterraneous chapel,

or rather a crypt which will be one, which I like particularly. Père

Robert showed us his design for ornamenting the east end of the

chapel, which is in excellent taste."--_M._

We dined with them at twelve "in the refectory. There was a crucifix

at one side, in the middle of the long room; and before it stood the

Supérieur while we said grace."--_M._; and we supped with them at

seven, in the midst of 180 boys. Absolute silence was kept, and a

youth at a tribune in the middle read first a verse or two of the

Gospels, and then some of 'Daniel's History of France.' Nothing could

be more simple than their dress; the masters were distributed at

intervals down the tables. The school was to educate laymen and

ecclesiastics together, and they showed with pride a young man who had

become priest out of their house, just twelve years after his

first communion. This is generally in the twelfth year, but earlier or

later according to the state of the individual. They take their first

communion after special confession, and _before_ confirmation; we

narrowly escaped seeing this sacrament conferred by the archbishop,

who had only left two days before. Confession begins at seven

according to _rule_, but generally before that age _in fact_.

At 5 a.m. They rise. Half an hour to get ready.

5½ to 6¼. In chapel; prayers and mass.

6¼ to 8. Study in silence, in school-room.

8 to 8¼. Breakfast, with reading Lives of Saints.

8¼ to 8½. Recreation.

8½ to 10½. Class. Vivâ voce lecture.

10½ to 12. Study.

12 to 12½. Dinner, with reading.

12½ to 1½. Recreation.

1½ to 3. Study.

3 to 4½. Class.

4½ to 5. Recreation.

5 to 7¼. Study.

7¼ to 7¾. Lecture Spirituelle, and Evening Prayers; the time at

which the Supérieur took notice of anything which

had occurred, gave advice, &c.

7¾ to 8¼. Supper.

8¼ to 8¾. Recreation. Then a minute or two of prayers in chapel,

and bed.

Study commences always with the hymn beginning "Veni Sancte Spiritus,"

the collect for Pentecost, and "Ave Maria." One half holiday,

Thursday. "Afterwards we walked in their little garden and play

ground. It being Thursday, the boys went out to walk with some of the

clerks. Some, however, remained about the premises, doing some

of the painting, &c. that was required. Much of the work has been done

by them. They carried all the bricks and mortar while the chapel was

building, &c. &c. They seem to be quite a family."--_M._

We talked on many subjects respecting the Churches of Rome and

England. In their opinion we are utterly heretical and dead. But M.

Pierre Labbé, who was chief spokesman, and a very clever talker,

admitted, that in case of invincible ignorance, that is, where the

person was, with all his endeavours, unable to see that the Church of

Rome was the only true Church, (supposing we had the succession, which

he more than doubted,) such person might receive the grace of the

sacraments. And this he also applied to the Eastern and Russian

Churches. He said, if things should ever come to a large, or anything

like a national, accession from England to the Roman Catholic faith,

the question of Anglican orders must be settled, and the Pope "se

gratterait la tête" what to do.

The point we remarked in this school was the intimate terms on which

the masters appeared to be with the boys; it was not only that their

presence during lesson time served to keep order, but that their

influence was everywhere at all times. Confession, doubtless, is the

root of this. Thus the Supérieur at catechism gave, as rewards, small

pictures, which each boy receiving kissed him on the cheek.

There was the greatest hilarity and cheerfulness, mingled with

respect, in presence of the master. We left these good people with

great admiration of their zeal, and appreciation of their kindness to

us.[3] M. Robert would take us on our way to Caudebec on Friday

morning. He conducted us in a cab belonging to the house, for the

homeliness of which he apologised. We passed a rich and occasionally

diversified corn country to Caudebec, over one of Henri Quatre's

battle-fields; there were no signs of it now. I asked him if Louis

Philippe had brought about a revolution, or only slipped in to prevent

a republic: he replied, "Quand on jette une pierre par la fénêtre, il

faut bien qu'elle tombe."

_Rouen, June 28. Saturday._--The church of Caudebec is of great

beauty, of the 15th century, covered in every part with rich

sculpture, especially the western façade, which the Calvinists greatly

injured. I went over every part of it with the curé, and up the tower,

which is terminated by a curious flêche, something like Strasburgh,

formed into crowns, marvellously rich. The height about 180 feet. The

view from the top is very striking. The great defect of the interior

is that the east end has two windows instead of three, or one,

at the apse; the nave is very narrow. There was over the jubé, now

removed, a rood with Adam at the bottom of it receiving the Blood in a

cup, representing the fallen humanity restored by our Lord. A north

and south aisle without transept. Caudebec is in a very pretty

situation, within the cleft of the hills, with the river flowing at

its feet; on each side rises the wooded amphitheatre formed by the

banks of the Seine: there is a plain on the other side of the river;

it might serve for the site of a great city. The church is equal to a

small cathedral.

The curé has a pleasant presbytère to the north; he treated us with

the greatest kindness. The government allows 1000 francs yearly to the

restoration of the church; so it goes on bit by bit. There is a

remarkable pendant in the Lady Chapel, said to be fourteen feet long:

the curé assured me that he had ascertained it was not supported by

anything. There is in the chapel to the south a sepulchre with

exceedingly rich canopy, and a gigantic figure of Christ, "by which a

woman seemed to be praying with great devotion. I can fancy it a great

help to meditation."--_M._

We set out in an indifferent cabriolet for Rouen by Jumiêges, and St.

Georges de Boscherville; a fine road in parts. Jumiêges is a mournful

ruin, the nave with its western towers and the arch to the east

standing still; the latter of gigantic proportions, the arch being at

least eighty feet high, is grievously cracked, and may fall any day.

To the east of this little remains; it has been almost entirely

carried away, being the most beautiful part of the church, of early or

decorated character. To the south are the walls of an elegant

decorated chapel of St. Peter; the ruins are covered with brushwood or

trees, the arches daily threatening to fall. The garden has a very

fine view of the high banks of the Seine; there is a pleasant

wilderness. M. Caumont has made himself a very picturesque residence

of the old gateway and adjoining buildings. The western façade, with

its two towers of equal height and nearly similar form, is very simple

but grand. I mounted rather more than 200 steps to the top of the

northern: unluckily it had been raining, and there was no sun. It

commands the high banks of the Seine for a considerable distance.

St. Georges de Boscherville is indeed a most stately and majestic

Norman church, bearing its burden of nearly 800 years as if it had

been built yesterday. Its west front, with two stories of three

windows, each over a fine recessed door, and turrets of singular

beauty and later style, is very imposing. There is a massive central

tower with a high spire of Norman, slated, I suppose near 200 feet

high. The interior offers all the simple and solemn grandeur of which

that style is capable; the one idea is perfectly carried out

from top to bottom, as in St. Ouen the Decorated, so here the Norman.

I should imagine it to be a perfect model of the style.

We got into Rouen not till after dark Friday night; went to the Hotel

de Normandie; not a nice house, dreadfully noisy, being in the street

where the two diligences, by the most wondrous evolutions, contrive to

worm themselves through the lanes of Rouen into their dens.

_Saturday, June 28._--After breakfast M. set off with our letter to

the curé of the cathedral, to whom M. Labbé had recommended us. He was

going away in the afternoon, but asked us to dine at twelve; this is

one of the few fast days in the year out of Lent, and we only agreed

to go on condition that he should change nothing of his usual fare. He

gave us potage maigre, fish, omelette. He was going to leave Rouen in

the afternoon for a few days, so we left very early; and we much

regretted this, for I have heard that he enjoys a very high reputation

as confessor and spiritual guide.

"It being a fasting vigil with them, they dine without meat at twelve,

and are allowed to take a snack in the evening, not a full meal. He

asked questions about the course of studies at Oxford, and whether

there was not in England an inclination 'to imitate their ceremonies.'

I told him I hoped the tendency was something more than that,

&c. &c. We asked him about philosophy in the French Church. He said

they used chiefly that of Aristotle, and that one could only find

particular branches well worked out. They were much occupied in

fighting Cousin. He and his four vicaires have a parish of 15,000

souls to look after. They have also many confessions to receive from

other parishes; but for the Easter communion every one is expected to

go to his own parish priest, or at least to communicate at his own

church. He says Rouen is rather a religious place. I did not ask him

the proportion of communicants, for fear I should seem to be inquiring

for criticism. He was obliged to leave us soon after dinner, but sent

us on to one of his vicaires, who took us to the house of the Frères

des Ecoles Chrétiennes, and introduced us to one of them, who showed

us the chapel, dormitory, &c. The founder of the order, the Père de la

Salle, is buried behind the altar. There are seats for the brethren,

and there is a room or gallery looking in at the west end for the

boys, who only enter the chapel on Sundays and saints days for the

Salut du St. Sacrement. They use this gallery for their morning and

evening prayers, which, I believe, are those at the end of the

Catechism. The brethren are laymen, but they have two aumoniers who

say mass in their chapel twice a day. They have not the breviary

services to say, being occupied all day with their schools, but

they hear mass, use the rosary, attend the salut, &c. There are

thirty-nine brethren, and they have a normal school, _i.e._ a

training school, of forty young men. They do not admit them under

seventeen. Their course is about three years. They prepare them for

'l'instruction primaire' of the superior kind, that is, extending to a

little history, chemistry, and the like, (and some of them learning

also modern languages,) but not comprising Latin or Greek.

Twenty-seven of the brethren, however, are occupied in schools about

the town, in which, if I understood right, there are as many as 2500

children. We could not see the cabinets of mineralogy, &c. or the

chemical laboratory. There were two or three little organs for music

lessons. The dormitories had separate cells, with a passage along the

line of them. One of the brethren sleeps in each dormitory, and stays

up till all are gone to bed, to be sure that good order is kept. They

are licensed by the university, and some of the scholars are supported

or helped by the government."--_M._

_Yesterday, June 29. Sunday, St. Peter's day._--We went to high mass

in the cathedral at ten, but though we had looked out the service as

well as we could, and were just on the outside of the higher gate of

the choir, we could not in general follow; only at the Gospel and the

Creed we regained our footing. Certainly the words of the

service, incomparably beautiful as they are, must be in the main lost.

We could not, even by observing the gestures, with the book before us,

follow them; the priest's voice is hardly ever heard. A poor woman

beside me chaunted through the Nicene Creed in Latin, and at vespers

at St. Ouen many female voices were doing the same with the Psalms.

The really edifying thing is the devotion of the people, who look upon

it as a sacrifice, and do not seem to require that perpetual

stimulating of the _understanding_ as among us. For there was no

sermon either at the cathedral or St. Ouen, save after the Gospel a

very short address, as it seemed, in the nave, but nobody moved from

the choir. This service lasted an hour and a half; then we had our own

service in private. We next went to the Musée d'Antiquités, where

there is a small series of stained glass windows, some very good. We

had a fine view of Rouen, north of the Boulevard. At 3 o'clock vespers

at St. Ouen, chanting of Psalms, followed by the exposition of the H.

Sacrament. A good many people, chiefly women. They took part

generally. Here again some Psalms we could find in the Paroissien, and

others not. This too lasted an hour and a half; the singing was very

good, and the organ came in with great effect. The whole tone of this

service, as simply devotional and thanksgiving, without instruction or

exhortation, struck us much. After this, dinner at five at the

table d'hôte. We have frequent occasion to think with approbation of

the Emperor of Russia's edict, "It is forbidden to wear a beard after

the manner of ourang outangs, Jews, and Frenchmen." After dinner we

walked to the top of St. Catherine's, and enjoyed the beautiful view

over Rouen, and also went on to Notre Dame de bon Secours. This is a

new church, of the style of the 13th century, of extraordinary purity

and grace; the eastern end already finished, and full of stained glass

windows. It has ten bays, and three windows in the apse. It quite

surpasses any modern church I have seen in beauty. All the vaulting,

both of nave and aisles, is in stone or brick. It has many

ex-votos,--plain slabs let into the wall: I copied some.

J'ai prié

la Sainte Vierge,

et elle a guéri ma fille.

1837.

Gage de ma reconnaissance.

J'ai prié la Sainte Vierge,

et elle m'a exaucée,

en protégeant ma fille.

Elbœuf le 3 Oct., 1838.

A. G.

A la T. S. Vierge,

le 7 Août, 1821,

Aux pieds de cet autel

J'ai obtenu la guérison

d'une maladie de 20 ans.

A. B.

Ex. voto.

Une maladie cruelle

menaçant des jours précieux,

nous avons prié Marie

dans ce temple,

et Dieu

a rendu M. Motte, Curé

de la Cathédrale de Rouen,

à ses élèves

et à ses nombreux amis.

8bre, 1824.

There is a very beautiful tower surmounted by a pretty spire. The

church stands on the edge of the hill, near 400 feet above the Seine.

_June 30. Monday._--M. and I went over St. Ouen inside and outside

to-day. The more I see of this church the more I am struck with its

singular grace and beauty, and the mode in which prodigious strength

is veiled. Within, it appears of unequalled lightness, while without,

the eye may discern the enormous counterbalancing weight of buttress

and flying arch, which enabled the architect to rear the centre,

pierced as it is with windows, to such a height. The disposition of

the whole choir and eastern end internally is especially graceful; for

instance, the view sitting behind the high altar facing the Lady

Chapel. We attended a low mass in the Lady Chapel. After dinner

M. P. Labbé unexpectedly came in, and talked a couple of hours. He

endeavoured to explain to us the idea with which the Roman Catholics

regard the Blessed Virgin, the occasion of which was my reading to him

the ex-votos cited above. The communion of saints, as a practical

doctrine, has had so little power among us, and assumes so very

important a place in Roman theology, that we seem to be unable to

understand each other on this point. And thus what is the most natural

feeling of his heart to a pious mind in the Roman Communion wears the

appearance of idolatry to a pious mind in the Anglican. "We talked

with him on the system of particular devotions. He said it was carried

to excess by some trying to exalt one practice, another another; but

that a good confessor would keep it very much in check, by recommending

people not to charge themselves with fresh observances."--_M._

_Tuesday, July 1._--I assisted at M. Labbé's mass in the Lady Chapel

of the cathedral, and was able to follow him pretty well; but almost

the whole Canon is pronounced secretly. At present, certainly, I

cannot help regretting that one cannot _hear_ and follow words so very

grand and touching. He breakfasted with us, and then took us to boys'

and girls' schools in the old _aitre_ (_atrium_) of S. Maclou, "round

which was a cloister ornamented with figures of the Dance of Death.

The rooms round it are now used for schools for the poor of S. Maclou.

One of the Frères des Ecoles Chrétiennes showed us his class, who

answered M. Labbé pretty well on the catechism. One of them then wrote

on a black board at his dictation: 'J'espère, mes chèrs enfans, que

vous vous montrerez, toute la vie, dignes des soins que les bons

frères ont pris de vous;' which sentence they were made to discuss

grammatically. Some of them were puzzled by the place held in the

sentence by 'toute la vie,' and it was some time before they made out

that it was governed by 'pendant' understood, and held the place of an

adverb. They showed us some maps they had drawn, which were neat

enough. Their manner to their teacher was very pleasing. We then went

on to the girls' school, which is very numerous, and kept in the same

set of buildings, chiefly up-stairs, by some réligieuses who are not

of any regularly established congregation, but are under a vow, and

are recognised and encouraged by the Church. Some of them were at

work, others reading. We could not judge of them further than that

they seemed to be in good order, and that it was pleasant to see them

taken care of by persons devoted to the work simply for charity. We

went on, through some narrow and dirty streets, to the Hôpital

Général, where they take in all manner of sick people. It is a

government institution, but is under the care of certain sisters, who

are devoted to that work. I believe they have not any very strict rule

besides. We saw the Supérieure, and a good many of the others; and the

sick people seemed to be kept very clean and comfortable. There is an

altar in each infirmary ward, but they have not the little marks of

religion at each bed's head, which one would find if the thing were

wholly in the hands of the Church."--_M._ He then took us to a convent

of Benedictine Ladies de l'Adoration du S. Sacrament. The peculiarity

of their rule is, that day and night there is always some one in

adoration of the Holy Sacrament. Their night office is from half-past

one to three. They eat maigre all the year. "They have only two hours

in the day when they are allowed to speak, except upon matters of

strict necessity."--_M._ The Supérieure spoke with us from behind a

double grating, which was besides veiled; at M. Labbé's request she

withdrew the veil, that we might see her costume; but her face was

entirely covered, though doubtless she could see us, herself unseen.

The whole dress was black. "She spoke very quietly and simply. The

congregation was instituted after a time when many altars had been

profaned, to make a kind of reparation for the insults that had been

committed against our Lord through His blessed sacrament."--_M._ In

the schools and the infirmary, I was struck by the prodigious

advantage of their being entrusted to professed religious persons. In

the evening we went round the cathedral: it is in every respect

_inside_ inferior to S. Ouen, and not particularly graceful; but

outside its northern and southern fronts are not to be surpassed for

beauty and elegance of design, while its western one will be of great

grandeur and exceeding richness when completed; walked once more round

S. Ouen with fresh admiration.

_Wednesday, July 2._--At twelve we started by railway for Paris;

stopped at Mantes four hours: went over Notre Dame; much delighted as

in 1843. The west front up to the gallery one of the most elegant I

know. They are building the last stage of the northern tower. Reached

Paris at 8 o'clock: got a "modeste appartement" at the Hôtel d'Espagne.

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