I answer:

1. There may be such, and we not able to perceive them, because of the

weaknesse of our eye, and the distance of those places from us, they are

the words of _Fienus_, as they are quoted by _Fromondus_ in the above

cited place,

_Possunt maximae permutationes in coelo fieri, etiamsi a nobis non

conspiciantur, hoc visus nostri debilitas & immensa coeli distantia

faciunt._

And unto him assents _Fromondus_ himselfe, when a little after hee

saies,

_Si in sphaeris planetarum degeremus, plurima forsan coelestium

nebularum vellere toto aethere passim dispersa videremus, quorum

species jam evanescit nimia spatii intercapedine._

"If we did live in the spheares of the Planets, wee might there,

perhaps, discerne many great clouds dispersed through the whole

Heavens, which are not now visible by reason of this great distance."

2. _Maeslin_ and _Keplar_ affirme, that they have seene some of these

alterations. The words of _Maeslin_ are these (as I finde them cited.)[1]

_In eclipsi Lunari vespere Dominicae Palmarum Anni 1605, in corpore

Lunae versus Boream, nigricans quaedam macula conspecta fuit, obscurior

caetero toto corpore, quod candentis ferri figuram repraesentabat;

dixisses nubila in multam regionem extensa pluviis & tempestuosis

imbribus gravida, cujusmodi ab excelsorum montium jugis in humiliora

convallium loca videre non raro contingit._

"In that lunary eclipse which happened in the even of Palme-sunday,

in the yeere 1605, there was a certaine blackish spot discerned in

the Northerly part of the Moone, being darker than any other part of

her body, and representing the colour of red hot yron; you might

conjecture that it was some dilated cloud, being pregnant with

showers, for thus doe such lower clouds appeare from the tops of

high mountaines."

[Sidenote 1: _Disser. 2. cum nunc. Galil._]

Unto this I may adde another testimony of _Bapt. Cisatus_, as he is

quoted by _Nierembergius_,[1] grounded upon an observation taken 23.

yeeres after this of _Maeslin_, and writ to this _Euseb. Nieremberg._ in

a letter by that diligent and judicious Astronomer. The words of it

runne thus:

_Et quidem in eclipsi nupra solari quae fuit ipso die natali Christi,

observavi clare in luna soli supposita, quidpiam quod valde probat

id ipsum quod Cometae quoque & maculae solares urgent, nempe coelum non

esse a tenuitate & variationibus aeris exemptum, nam circa Lunam

adverti esse sphaeram seu orbem quendam vaporosum, non secus atque

circum terram, adeoque sicut ex terra in aliquam usque sphaeram

vapores & exhalationes expirant, ita quoque ex luna._

"In that late solary eclipse which happened on Christmas day, when

the Moone was just under the Sunne, I plainly discerned that in her

which may clearely confirme what the Comets and Sunne spots doe seeme

to prove, _viz._ that the heavens are not solid, nor freed from those

changes which our aire is liable unto, for about the Moone I perceived

such an orbe of vaporous aire, as that is which doth encompasse our

earth, and as vapours and exhalations, are raised from our earth into

this aire, so are they also from the Moone."

[Sidenote 1: _Hist. Nat. l. 2. c. 11._]

You see what probable grounds and plaine testimonies have brought for

the confirmation of this Proposition: many other things in this behalfe

might be spoken, which for brevity sake I now omit, and passe unto the

next.

Proposition 13.

_That tis probable there may be inhabitants in this other World, but

of what kinde they are is uncertaine._

I have already handled the Seasons and Meteors belonging to this new

World: 'tis requisite that in the next place I should come unto the

third thing which I promised, and to say somewhat of the inhabitants,

concerning whom there might be many difficult questions raised, as

whether that place be more inconvenient for habitation then our World

(as _Keplar_ thinkes) whether they are the seed of _Adam_, whether they

are there in a blessed estate, or else what meanes there may be for

their salvation, with many other such uncertaine enquiries, which I

shall willingly omit, leaving it to their examination, who have more

leisure and learning for the search of such particulars.

Being for mine own part content only to set downe such notes belonging

unto these which have observed in other Writers.

_Cum tota illa regio nobis ignota sit, remanent inhabitores illi

ignoti penitus_,

(saith _Cusanus_)[1] since we know not the regions of that place, wee

must be altogether ignorant of the inhabitants. There hath not yet beene

any such discovery concerning these, upon which wee may build a

certainty, or good probability: well may wee guesse at them, and that

too very doubtfully, but we can know nothing, for if we doe hardly

guesse aright at things which be upon earth, if with labour wee doe

finde the things that are at hand, [2]how then can wee search out those

things that are in Heaven? What a little is that which wee know? in

respect of those many matters contained within this great Universe, this

whole globe of earth and water? though it seeme to us to be of a large

extent, yet it beares not so great a proportion unto the whole frame of

Nature, as a small sand doth unto it; and what can such little creatures

as wee discerne, who are tied to this point of earth? or what can they

in the Moone know of us? If wee understand any thing (saith _Esdras_[3])

'tis nothing but that which is upon the earth, and hee that dwelleth

above in the Heavens, may onely understand the things that are above in

the heighth of the heavens.

[Sidenote 1: _De doct. ign. l. 2. c. 12._]

[Sidenote 2: Wisd. 9. 16.]

[Sidenote 3: 2 Esd. 4. 22.]

So that 'twere a very needelesse thing for us, to search after any

particulars, however, wee may guesse in the generall, that there are

some inhabitans in that Planet: for why else did Providence furnish that

place with all such conveniences of habitation as have beene above

declared?

But you will say, perhaps, is there not too great and intollerable a

heate, since the Sunne is in their Zinith every moneth, and doth tarry

their so long before hee leaves it?

I answer, 1. This may, perhaps, be remedied (as it is under the line) by

the frequencie of mid-day showers, which may cloud their Sunne, and

coole their earth: 2. The equality of their nights doth much temper the

scorching of the day, and the extreme cold that comes from the one,

require some space before it can be dispelled by the other, so that the

heate spending a great while before it can have the victory, hath not

afterwards much time to rage in. Wherfore notwithstanding this, yet that

place may remaine habitable. And this was the opinion of the _Cardinal

de Cusa_, when speaking of this Planet, he saies,[1]

_Hic locus Mundi est habitatio hominum & animalium atque

vegetabilium_.

"This part of the world is inhabited by men and beasts, and Plantes."

To him assented _Campanella_, but hee cannot determine whether there

were men, or rather some other kinde of creatures. If they were men,

then he thinkes they could not be infected with _Adams_ sinne; yet,

perhaps, they had some of their owne, which might make them liable to

the same misery with us, out of which, perhaps, they were delivered by

the same means as we, the death of Christ, and thus he thinkes that

place of the _Ephesians_ may be interpreted, where the Apostle saies,[2]

_God gathered all things together in Christ, both which are in earth,

and which are in the heavens_: So also that of the same Apostle to the

_Colossians_, where hee saies,[3] that _it pleased the Father to

reconcile all things unto himselfe by Christ, whether they be things in

earth, or things in heaven_.

[Sidenote 1: _De doct. ign. l. 2. c. 12._]

[Sidenote 2: Eph. 1. 10.]

[Sidenote 3: Col. 1. 20.]

But I dare not jest with Divine truthes, or apply these places according

as fancy directs. As I thinke this opinion doth not any where contradict

Scripture, so I thinke likewise, that it cannot be proved from it,

wherefore _Campanella's_ second conjecture may be more probable, that

the inhabitants of that world, are not men as wee are, but some other

kinde of creatures which beare some proportion and likenesse to our

natures, and _Cusanus_ too thinkes they differ from us in many respects;

I will set downe his words as they may bee found in the abovecited

place,

_Suspicamus in regione solis magis esse solares, claros & illuminatos

intellectuares habitatores, spiritu aliores etiam quam in luna, ubi

magis lunatici, & in terra, magis materiales, & grossi, ut illi

intellectualis naturae solares sint multum in actu & parum in

potentia; terreni vero magis in potentia, & parum in actu, lunares

in medio fluctuantes. Hoc quidem opinamur ex influentia ignili

solis aquatica simul & aeria lunae, & gravedine materiali terrae,

& consimiliter de aliis stellarum regionibus suspicantes, nullam

habitatoribus carere, quasi tot sint partes particulares mundiales

omnius universi, quot sunt stellae quarum non est numerus, nisi apud

eum qui omnia in numero creavit._

"Wee may conjecture (saith he) the inhabiters of the Sunne are

like to the nature of that Planet, more cleare and bright, more

intellectuall and spirituall than those in the Moone where they

are neerer to the nature of that duller Planet, and those of the

earth being more grosse and materiall than either, so that these

intellectuall natures in the Sun, are more forme than matter, those

in the earth more matter than forme, and those in the Moone betwixt

both. This wee may guesse from the fiery influence of the Sunne, the

watery and aereous influence of the Moone, as also the matereall

heavinesse of the earth. In some such manner likewise is it with the

regions of the other Starres, for wee conjecture that none of them

are without inhabitants, but that there are so many particular

worlds and parts of this one universe, as there are Stars which are

innumerable, unlesse it bee to him who created all things in number."

For he held that the stars were not all in one equall Orbe as we

commonly suppose, but that some were farre higher than others which made

them appeare lesse and that many others were so farre above any of

these, that they were altogether invisible unto us. An opinion (which as

I conceive) hath not any great probability for it, nor certainty against

it.

The Priest of _Saturne_ relating to _Plutarch_ (as he faignes it) the

nature of the Selenites, told him they were of divers dispositions, some

desiring to live in the lower parts of the Moone, where they might looke

downewards upon us, while others were more surely mounted aloft, all of

them shining like the rayes of the Sun, and as being victorious are

crowned with garlands made with the wings of _Eustathia_ or

_Constancie_.

It hath beene the opinion amongst some of the Ancients, that their

Heavens and Elysian fields were in the Moone where the aire is most

quiet and pure. Thus _Socrates_, thus _Plato_,[1] with his followers,

did esteeme this to bee the place where those purer soules inhabit, who

are freed from the Sepulchre, and contagion of the body. And by the

Fable of _Ceres_, continually wandring in search of her daughter

_Proserpina_, is meant nothing else but the longing desire of men, who

live upon _Ceres_ earth, to attaine a place in _Proserpina_, the Moone

or Heaven.

[Sidenote 1: _Nat. Com. lib. 3. c. 19._]

_Plutarch_ also seemes to assent unto this, but hee thinkes moreover,

that there are two places of happinesse answerable to those two parts

which hee fancies to remaine of a man when hee is dead, the soule and

the understanding; the soule he thinkes is made of the Moone, and as our

bodies doe so proceede from the dust of this earth, that they shall

returne to it hereafter, so our soules were generated out of that

Planet, and shall bee resolved into it againe, whereas the understanding

shall ascend unto the Sunne, out of which it was made where it shall

possesse an eternity of well being, and farre greater happinesse than

that which is enjoyed in the Moone. So that when a man dies, if his

soule bee much polluted, then must it wander up and downe in the middle

regions of the aire where hell is, and there suffer unspeakable torments

for those sinnes whereof it is guilty. Whereas the soules of better men,

when they have in some space of time beene purged from that impurity

which they did derive from the body, then doe they returne into the

Moone, where they are possest with such a joy, as those men feele who

professe holy misteries, from which place (saith he) some are sent downe

to have the superintendance of Oracles, being diligent either in the

preservation of the good, either from or in all perils, and the

prevention or punishment of all wicked actions, but if in these

imployments they mis-behave themselves, then are they againe to be

imprisoned in a body, otherwise they remaine in the Moone till their

body be resolved into it, & the understanding being cleared from all

impediments, ascends to the Sunne which is its proper place. But this

requires a diverse space of time according to the diverse affections of

the soule. As for those who have beene retired and honest, addicting

themselves to a studious and quiet life, these are quickly preferred to

a higher happinesse. But as for such who have busied themselves in many

broyles, or have beene vehement in the prosecution of any lust, as the

ambitious, the amorous, the wrathfull man, these still retaine the

glimpses and dreames of such things as they have performed in their

bodies, which makes them either altogether unfit to remaine there where

they are, or else keepes them long ere they can put off their soules.

Thus you see _Plutarchs_ opinion concerning the inhabitants and

neighbours of the Moone, which (according to the manner of the

Academickes) hee delivers in a third person; you see he makes that

Planet an inferiour kind of heaven, and though hee differ in many

circumstances, yet doth hee describe it to be some such place, as wee

suppose Paradise to be. You see likewise his opinion concerning the

place of damned spirits, that it is in the middle region of the aire,

and in neither of these is hee singular, but some more late and Orthodox

Writers have agreed with him. As for the place of hell, many thinke it

may be in the aire as well as any where else.

True indeed, Saint _Austin_ affirmes that this place cannot bee

discovered;[1] But others there are who can shew the situation of it out

of Scripture; Some holding it to bee in some other world without this,

because our Saviour calls it +skotos exoteron+, outward darkenesse.[2]

But the most will have it placed towards the Center of our earth,

because 'tis said,[3] Christ descended into the lower parts of the

earth, and some of these are so confident, that this is its situation,

that they can describe you its bignes also, and of what capacity it is.

_Francis Ribera_ in his Comment on the _Revelations_, speaking of those

words, where 'tis said,[4] that the blood went out of the Wine-presse,

even unto the horses bridles by the space of one thousand and sixe

hundred furlongs, interprets them to bee meant of Hell, and that that

number expresses the diameter of its concavity, which is 200 _Italian_

miles; but _Lessius_ thinkes that this opinion gives them too much roome

in hell,[5] and therefore hee guesses that 'tis not so wide; for (saith

hee) the diameter of one league being cubically multiplied, will make a

spheare capable of 800000 millions of damned bodies, allowing to each

sixe foote in the square, whereas (saies hee) 'tis certaine that there

shall not be one hundred thousand millions in all that shall bee damned.

You see the bold _Iesuit_ was carefull that every one should have but

roome enough in hell, and by the strangenesse of the conjecture, you may

guesse that he had rather bee absurd, than seeme either uncharitable or

ignorant. I remember there is a relation in _Pliny_, how that

_Dionisiodorus_ a Mathematician, being dead, did send a letter from his

place to some of his friends upon earth, to certifie them what distance

there was betwixt the center and superficies: hee might have done well

to have prevented this controversie, and enformed them the utmost

capacity of that place. However, certaine it is, that that number cannot

bee knowne, and probable it is, that the place is not yet determined,

but that hell is there where there is any tormented soule, which may bee

in the regions of the aire as well as in the center; but of this onely

occasionally, and by reason of _Plutarchs_ opinion concerning those that

are round about the Moone; as for the Moone it selfe, hee esteemes it to

bee a lower kinde of Heaven, and therefore in another place hee cals it

a terrestriall starre,[6] and an Olympian or celestiall earth

answerable, as I conceive, to the paradise of the Schoolemen, and that

Paradise was either in or neere the Moone, is the opinion of some later

Writers, who derived it (in all likelihood) from the assertion of

_Plato_, and perhaps, this of _Plutarch_. _Tostatus_[7] laies this

opinion upon _Isioder. Hispalensis_, and the venerable _Bede_; and

_Pererius_[8] fathers it upon _Strabus_ and _Rabanus_ his Master. Some

would have it to bee situated in such a place as could not be

discovered, which causes the penman of _Esdras_ to make it a harder

matter to know the outgoings of Paradise, then to weigh the weight of

the fire, or measure the blasts of wind, or call againe a day that is

past.[9] But notwithstanding this, there bee some others who thinke that

it is on the top of some high mountaine under the line, and these

interpreted the torrid Zone to be the flaming Sword whereby Paradise was

guarded. 'Tis the consent of divers others, who agree in this, that

Paradise is situated in some high and eminent place.[10] So _Tostatus_:

_Est etiam Paradisus situ altissima, supra omnem terrae altitudinem_,

"Paradise is situated in some high place above the earth":

and therefore in his Coment upon the 49. of _Genesis_, hee understands

the blessing of _Iacob_ concerning the everlasting hills to bee meant of

Paradise, and the blessing it selfe to bee nothing else but a promise of

Christs comming, by whose passion the gates of Paradise should bee

opened. Unto him assented _Rupertus_, _Scotus_, and most of the other

Schoolemen, as I find them cited by _Pererius_,[11] and out of him in

Sr. _W. Rawleigh_. Their reason was this: because in probability this

place was not overflowed by the flood, since there were no sinners there

which might draw that curse upon it. Nay _Tostatus_ thinkes that the

body of _Enoch_ was kept there, and some of the Fathers, as _Tertullian_

and _Austin_ have affirmed, that the blessed soules were reserved in

that place till the day of judgement, and therefore 'tis likely that it

was not overflowed by the flood; and besides, since all men should have

went naked if _Adam_ had not fell, 'tis requisite therefore that it

should be situated in some such place where it might bee priviledged

from the extremities of heat and cold. But now this could not bee (they

thought) so conveniently in any lower, as it might in some higher aire.

For these and such like considerations have so many affirmed that

Paradise was in a high elevated place, which some have conceived could

bee no where but in the Moone: For it could not be in the top of any

mountaine, nor can we thinke of any other body separated from this earth

which can bee a more convenient place for habitation than this Planet,

therefore they concluded that it was there.

[Sidenote 1: _De civit. Dei. lib. 22. ca. 16._]

[Sidenote 2: Mat. 25. 30]

[Sidenote 3: Eph. 4. 9.]

[Sidenote 4: Rev. 14. 20.]

[Sidenote 5: _De Morib. div. l. 13. c. 24._]

[Sidenote 6: _Cur silent oracula._]

[Sidenote 7: _S. W. Raw. lib. 1. cap. 3. Sec. 7._]

[Sidenote 8: _in Gen._]

[Sidenote 9: 2 Esd. 4. 7.]

[Sidenote 10: _In_ Genes.]

[Sidenote 11: _Comment. in 2. Gen. v. 8. lib 1. cap. 3. Sec. 6 7._]

It could not bee on the top of any mountaine.

1. Because wee have expresse Scripture, that the highest of them was

overflowed.[1]

[Sidenote 1: Gen. 7. 19.]

2. Because it must bee of a greater extension, and not some small patch

of ground, since 'tis likely all men should have lived there, if _Adam_

had not fell. But for a satisfaction of these arguments, together with a

farther discourse of Paradise, I shall referre you to those who have

written purposely upon this subject. Being content for my owne part to

have spoken so much of it, as may conduce to shew the opinion of others

concerning the inhabitants of the Moone, I dare not my selfe affirme any

thing of these Selenites, because I know not any ground whereon to build

any probable opinion. But I thinke that future ages will discover more;

and our posterity, perhaps, may invent some meanes for our better

acquaintance with these inhabitants. 'Tis the method of providence not

presently to shew us all, but to lead us along from the knowledge of one

thing to another. 'Twas a great while ere the Planets were distinguished

from the fixed Stars, and sometime after that ere the morning and

evening starre were found to bee the same, and in greater space I doubt

not but this also, and farre greater mysteries will bee discovered. In

the first ages of the world the Islanders either thought themselves to

be the onely dwellers upon the earth, or else if there were any other,

yet they could not possibly conceive how they might have any commerce

with them, being severed by the deepe and broad Sea, but the after-times

found out the invention of ships, in which notwithstanding none but some

bold daring men durst venture, there being few so resolute as to commit

themselves unto the vaste Ocean, and yet now how easie a thing is this,

even to a timorous & cowardly nature? So, perhaps, there may be some

other meanes invented for a conveyance to the Moone, and though it may

seeme a terrible and impossible thing ever to passe through the vaste

spaces of the aire, yet no question there would bee some men who durst

venture this as well as the other. True indeed, I cannot conceive any

possible meanes for the like discovery of this conjecture, since there

can bee no sailing to the Moone, unlesse that were true which the Poets

doe but feigne, that shee made her bed in the Sea. We have not now any

_Drake_ or _Columbus_ to undertake this voyage, or any _Daedalus_ to

invent a conveyance through the aire. However, I doubt not but that time

who is still the father of new truths, and hath revealed unto us many

things which our Ancestours were ignorant of, will also manifest to our

posterity, that which wee now desire, but cannot know. _Veniet tempus_

(saith _Seneca_[1])

_quo ista quae nunc latent, in lucem, dies extrahet, & longioris aevi

diligentia._

Time will come when the indeavours of after-ages shall bring such things

to light, as now lie hid in obscurity. Arts are not yet come to their

Solstice, but the industry of future times assisted with the labours of

their forefathers, may reach unto that height which wee could not

attaine to.

_Ueniet tempus quo posteri nostri nos tam aperta nescisse mirentur._

As wee now wonder at the blindnesse of our Ancestors, who were not able

to discerne such things as seeme plaine and obvious unto us. So will our

posterity admire our ignorance in as perspicuous matters. _Keplar_

doubts not, but that as soone as the art of flying is found out, some of

their Nation will make one of the first colonies that shall inhabite

that other world. But I leave this and the like conjectures to the

fancie of the reader; Desiring now to finish this Discourse, wherein I

have in some measure proved what at the first I promised, a world in the

Moone. However, I am not so resolute in this, that I thinke tis

necessary there must be one, but my opinion is that 'tis possible there

may be, and tis probable there is another habitable world in that

Planet. And this was that I undertooke to prove. In the pursuit whereof,

if I have shewed much weaknesse or indiscretion; I shall willingly

submit my selfe to the reason and censure of the more judicious.

[Sidenote 1: _Nat. Quaest. l. 7. c. 25._]

[Decoration]

The Propositions that are proved in this Discourse.

Proposition 1.

_That the strangenesse of this opinion is no sufficient reason why it

should be rejected, because other certaine truths have beene formerly

esteemed ridiculous, and great absurdities entertayned by common

consent._

By way of Preface.

Prop. 2.

_That a plurality of worlds doth not contradict any principle of

reason or faith._

Prop. 3.

_That the heavens doe not consist of any such pure matter which can

priviledge them from the like change and corruption, as these

inferiour bodies are liable unto._

Prop. 4.

_That the Moone is a solid, compacted opacous body._

Prop. 5.

_That the Moone hath not any light of her owne._

Prop. 6.

_That there is a world in the Moone, hath beene the direct opinion of

many ancient, with some moderne Mathematicians, and may probably be

deduced from the tenents of others._

Prop. 7.

_That those spots and brighter parts which by our sight may be

distinguished in the Moone, doe shew the difference betwixt the

Sea and Land in that other world._

Prop. 8.

_That the spots represent the Sea, and the brighter parts the Land._

Prop. 9.

_That there are high Mountaines, deepe vallies, and spacious plaines

in the body of the Moone._

Prop. 10.

_That there is an Atmo-sphaera, or an orbe of grosse vaporous aire,

immediately encompassing the body of the Moone._

Prop. 11.

_That as their world is our Moone, so our world is their Moone._

Prop. 12.

_That tis probable there may bee such Meteors belonging to that world

in the Moone, as there are with us._

Prop. 13.

_That tis probable there may be inhabitants in this other World, but

of what kinde they are is uncertaine._

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