I congratulate you upon the capture of St Eustatia and St Martin's.

The enterprise does the highest honor to the abilities and spirit of

the Marquis de Bouillé; and his disinterested generosity is finely

contrasted with the sordid avarice of the British commanders.

Order and economy have taken place in our finances. The troops are

regularly clothed and fed at West Point, and most of the other posts,

at the moderate rate of ninepence a ration when issued, so that the

innumerable band of purchasing and issuing commissaries is discharged.

The hospitals are well supplied in the same way, and small advances of

pay are made to the officers and men. Upon the whole, they were never

in so comfortable a situation as they are at present. Our civil list

formed upon plans of the strictest economy, after having been many

years in arrear, is now regularly paid off; and the departments, in

consequence of it, filled with men of integrity and abilities.

Embargoes and other restrictions being removed, our commerce begins to

revive, and with it the spirit of industry and enterprise; and what

will astonish you still more is, that public credit has again reared

its head. Our bank paper is in equal estimation with specie. Nothing

can be more agreeable than to see the satisfaction with which people

bring their money to the bank, and take out paper; or the joy mixed

with surprise with which some, who have hesitatingly taken bank bills

for the first time, see that they can turn them into specie at their

option.

Whether Spain wishes for peace or war, it is certainly her interest to

push the enemy where they are most vulnerable, and where she can do it

with the smallest expense to herself, and the greatest to her enemy.

Every additional man she enables us to maintain here, forces Britain

to lay out four times as much in procuring, transporting, and feeding

another to oppose him. It has been acknowledged in the British House

of Commons, that every man in America costs the nation annually one

hundred pounds sterling. Though this may appear exorbitant, yet

whoever reflects on the first expense of raising and transporting a

regiment, and the additional charge of sending over recruits to make

up deficiencies, and that of sending provisions to an army and its

innumerable dependants three thousand miles, will think it deserves

some degree of credit. It is obvious then as nations are only strong

in proportion to the money they can command, that every thousand men

we oblige the British to maintain here must make a diminution of their

strength in some other quarter, equal to three times that number.

Enclosed you have copies of two original letters from Mr Deane, in

which he acknowledges others that Rivington has published, which speak

a still more dangerous language. No doubt is entertained here of his

apostacy, or of his endeavor to weaken the efforts of the United

States, and to traduce the character of the people and their rulers,

both in Europe and America. You will doubtless use every means in your

power to destroy the ill effects, which his calumnies may have had

upon the minds of people with you. I enclose you the gazettes, and

again entreat you to let us hear from you more frequently, and to

leave letters at all times at Cadiz, and in the hands of our Consul in

France, so that no vessel may sail without bringing us some

intelligence. The last letter we had from you is dated in September,

near five months ago. I dare say this has been owing to some

accidental cause, and I only mention it, that you may guard against it

by writing more frequently in future, as the silence of our Ministers

excites more uneasiness here than you can conceive. Pray send me, when

no other subject presents itself, and you have leisure, a sketch of

the government of Spain, and the present state of its trade, marine,

military establishments, commerce, revenues, and agriculture.

I could also wish to have the Madrid Gazette, and Mercury, and the

Court Kalendar of this year. I have the pleasure of informing you,

that your friends here are well, and as numerous as ever.

I am, my dear Sir, with those sentiments of esteem and friendship,

which I shall always feel for you, your most obedient humble servant,

ROBERT R. LIVINGSTON.

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TO ROBERT R. LIVINGSTON, SECRETARY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS.

Madrid, February 6th, 1782.

Dear Sir,

The Secretary of the Minister of State sent me yesterday morning your

favor of the 13th of December last, accompanied by various papers.

These are the first letters or papers of any kind, that I have as yet

had the pleasure of receiving from you since your appointment; and

they must for the present remain unintelligible for the want of your

cypher. The one mentioned to have been enclosed with these papers is

missing, and the other never came to hand.

On the 29th of November last, I received a packet, in which I found

enclosed a set of cyphers endorsed by Mr Secretary Thomson, and

nothing else. Mr Barclay had sent it by the post, under cover to a

banker here. It had evident marks of inspection, but I acquit the

banker of any hand in it.

A letter of the 18th ult. from Mr Joshua Johnson, at Nantes, mentions

the arrival there of the brig Betsey, from Philadelphia, and that she

brought letters for me, which were put into the post-office by the

captain. I have not yet seen them.

There are letters in town, brought by the Marquis de Lafayette to

France; but I have not yet received a line by or from him.

We must do like other nations; manage our correspondences in important

cases by couriers, and not by the post.

I have not written you a single official letter, not having been

ascertained of your having entered on the execution of your office. I

have, indeed, sent you by more than one opportunity my congratulations

on your appointment.

You may rely on my writing you many letters, private as well as

official, and as I still have confidence in Mr R. Morris's cypher, I

shall sometimes use it to you.

A duplicate of my letter of the 3d of October to Congress, which goes

with this, renders it unnecessary for me to go into particulars at

present. Nothing having since happened but a repetition of delays,

and, of consequence, additional dangers to the credit of our bills.

I am, dear Sir, &c.

JOHN JAY.

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TO THE PRESIDENT OF CONGRESS.

Madrid, February 6th, 1782.

Sir,

My last particular letter to your Excellency was dated the 3d of

October last, by Major Franks. I now transmit a duplicate of it by Mr

Stephen Codman, a young gentleman of Boston, who is passing through

this city to Cadiz, from whence he will either be the bearer of it

himself to America, or forward it by some person of confidence.

From the date of that letter to this day, the Minister has found it

convenient to continue the system of delay mentioned in it. I have not

been able to obtain anything more than excuses for procrastination,

and these excuses are uniformly want of health, or want of time.

There is little prospect of our receiving speedy aids from this Court,

and Dr Franklin gives me reason to fear, that a great number of the

bills drawn upon me must, after all our exertions to save them, be

finally protested for non-payment. I have, from time to time, given

the Doctor a great deal of trouble on this subject, and I ought to

acknowledge, that I am under many and great obligations to him for his

constant attention to our affairs here.

As soon as I get a little better of the rheumatism, with which I am

now, and have for sometime past been much afflicted, I shall write

your Excellency another long and particular letter.

I have just received, through the hands of the Minister's Secretary, a

letter from Mr Livingston, dated the 13th of December, marked No. 3.

It is in cypher, but I cannot read it, nor a duplicate of No. 2,

enclosed in it, for want of a key, which, though mentioned to have

been enclosed, is missing. None of his other letters have reached me.

A duplicate of Mr Thomson's cypher, brought by Mr Barclay, came to me

through the post-office with such evident marks of inspection, that it

would be imprudent to use it hereafter.

Notwithstanding all our difficulties here, I think we should continue

to oppose obstacles by perseverance and patience, and my recall should

rather be the result of cool policy than of resentment. I am somewhat

inclined to think, that it may become politic to suspend it on the

reply of the Court to a demand of a categorical answer. Unless the

Minister's system should change, (for they still give me hopes) it

might perhaps also be proper for me to consult with Dr Franklin and Mr

Adams on the subject, and send Congress the result. For this purpose,

I submit to Congress the propriety of giving me permission to go to

France or Holland.

Advantages are certainly to be derived from preserving the appearance

of being well here; and such is the general opinion at present. But I

am still much inclined to think it advisable to push this Court by a

demand of a categorical answer. I doubt their venturing to break with

us. The French Ambassador thinks it would be rash, and opposes it.

Hence principally arises my suspense.

I have the honor to be, &c.

JOHN JAY.

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TO ROBERT R. LIVINGSTON.

Madrid, February 16th, 1782.

Dear Sir,

No letters by the Marquis de Lafayette have as yet reached me. I had

the honor of writing to you on the 6th and 13th instant.

We were yesterday informed, and so the fact is, that the Castle of St

Philip surrendered by capitulation to the Duc de Crillon, on the 4th

instant. There was no breach made, nor any of the out-works taken. The

garrison are to go to England and remain prisoners of war till

exchanged.

I am to go to the Pardo this evening. There I shall learn some further

details from the Minister. If I return sufficiently early for the

post, they shall be subjoined.

Things look better just at present; but my sky has hitherto been so

like an April one, that I dare not as yet flatter you or myself with

settled fair weather.

I am, Dear Sir, with great esteem and regard, &c.

JOHN JAY.

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TO ROBERT R. LIVINGSTON.

Madrid, February 18th, 1782.

Dear Sir,

I wrote to you a short letter on the 16th instant. I have procured a

copy of the gazette to be published tomorrow, and I send enclosed as

much of it as contains the articles of capitulation for Fort St

Philip. This event takes place very opportunely, and will have a fine

effect in England. Things begin to look more promising; but I avoid

particulars for a week or two, that I may have a better opportunity

of judging what reliance may be placed in present appearances.

With great esteem and regard, I am, Dear Sir, &c.

JOHN JAY.

_P. S._ Not a letter yet by the Marquis de Lafayette.

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ROBERT R. LIVINGSTON TO JOHN JAY.

Philadelphia, March 8th, 1782.

Dear Sir,

I shall leave town tomorrow, and be absent a few weeks. I do not care

to do it without letting you know, that we have nothing worth telling

you. For want of positive, you must be content with negative

information, which sometimes has its use, and failing of any other at

least serves to provoke an answer, and makes those to whom it is

addressed ashamed of their silence, when they can collect anything to

communicate. I just now learn that General Greene has moved to the

Quarter House, five miles from Charleston, and detached a part of his

army to Georgia. The enemy have evacuated all the outposts they held

in that State, and retired into Savannah. It is imagined that they

will shortly evacuate and concentre their forces at New York. Empty

transports have sailed from the latter place, but whether to bring

away the troops from Charleston I cannot say. We are extremely anxious

to hear the event of a battle, which has been fought in the West

Indies between the fleets, but of which we know nothing certain.

Enclosed you have a copy of a letter from Mr Pollock, who is well

acquainted with the country about the Mississippi; it contains some

information which may be of use to you. I also enclose you sundry

resolutions of Congress, organizing the office of Foreign Affairs,

from which you will learn the extent of my powers, and not be misled

by supposing them greater than they are.

I am, Dear Sir, with great esteem and affection,

ROBERT R. LIVINGSTON.

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ROBERT R. LIVINGSTON TO JOHN JAY.

Philadelphia, April 27th, 1782.

Dear Sir,

I informed you in my letter of the 16th instant,[1] that yours of the

3d of October had been received and submitted to Congress in my

absence, and, as I had then reason to think, that it would be answered

by them. This I wished because I was persuaded it would express their

approbation of your conduct, and afford you that intimate knowledge of

their sentiments, which the delicacy of your situation renders

particularly important. They have, however, judged it proper to refer

the letter to me. I shall endeavor to preserve the advantages I have

mentioned to you, by reporting this answer.

Acquainted with the expectations of Congress, and the grounds on which

they formed them, you will easily believe, that they are equally

surprised and concerned at the little attention hitherto shown by

Spain to their respectful solicitations. They had learned from every

quarter that his Catholic Majesty, among the princely virtues he

possesses, was particularly distinguished for his candor, and that

open dignity of character, which is the result of having no views

that he found any reluctance in disclosing; and that the Ministers in

whom he confided, breathing the spirit of the Prince, were above those

artifices, which form the politics of inferior powers. They knew the

insults which Spain had received from Great Britain, and they could

conceive no reason why she should conceal or refuse to return them by

supporting openly the people, whom Britain unjustly endeavored to

oppress. These principles, confirmed by the frequent recommendations

of those whom they believed to be acquainted with the sentiment of the

Court of Madrid, induced them to send a Minister to solicit the

favorable attention of his Catholic Majesty to a people who were

struggling with oppression, and whose success or miscarriage could not

but be important to a sovereign, who held extensive dominions in their

vicinity. Give me leave to add, Sir, that in the choice of the person,

they were not inattentive to the dignity of the Court; or to the

candor and integrity by which they were supposed to be influenced. I

would not have you infer from what I have said, that the favorable

sentiments, which the United States have hitherto entertained of the

Court of Madrid, have undergone the least alteration. They are

satisfied that nothing would be more injurious to both nations, than

to permit the seeds of distrust or jealousy to be sown among them.

But though those who are well informed feel no abatement of respect or

esteem for the virtue and magnanimity of his Majesty, and do full

justice to the integrity and abilities of his Ministers, accepting the

apologies you mention, and attributing to their true causes the delays

and neglects you have unhappily experienced, yet they are in the

utmost pain, lest they should work some change in the sentiments of

the people at large, in whom with us the sovereignty resides, and

from thence diffuse themselves into the government, and be productive

of measures ruinous to that friendly intercourse, that spirit of

amity, which it is the wish of those who are acquainted with the true

interests of both countries to promote.

After the war was declared by Spain, those among us who had formed the

highest ideas of her magnanimity, persuaded themselves that she would

act advisedly for us when she found us in distress. They grounded

their belief upon the avowed spirit of the nation, and the policy of

adopting measures to re-animate us and damp the ardor of the enemy,

and to make such impressions upon our hearts, as to give them in

future a considerable influence on our councils. Our disappointment in

this expectation, though perhaps to be accounted for upon very natural

principles, has been greatly aggravated by the sedulous endeavors of

the enemies of both countries to create distrust and jealousies. They

artfully insinuate, that Spain seeks only to draw advantages from our

wants, without so far interfering in our affairs as to involve

herself, if we should be unsuccessful. These insinuations are gaining

ground, and it becomes daily more necessary for Congress to be

furnished with reasons to justify to their constituents the

concessions they have proposed to make, or to withdraw those

concessions when they are found ineffectual. Yet they find much

reluctance in discovering the least want of confidence in the Court of

Madrid; and though their present situation might fully justify them in

not parting with the important rights you are empowered to concede,

without stipulating some very valuable equivalent, yet they cannot be

induced to make any alteration in your instructions on this subject,

till you shall have reason to conclude, that nothing can be done

towards forming the alliance they have so much at heart; not only

because of the influence it will immediately have in accelerating the

peace, but because of the advantages, which Spain and America may

reciprocally promise each other in future, from the lasting connexion

which will be erected thereon.

Though the delays you have met with afford room to suspect, that Spain

wishes to defer a particular treaty with us till a general peace, yet

I see so many political reasons against such a measure, that I can

hardly presume they will adopt it.

At the close of a successful war, a great and powerful nation, to whom

a character for justice and moderation is of the last importance, can

in no case demand more than a compensation for the injuries received.

This compensation will, indeed, be measured in part by their success.

But still it has bounds, beyond which a nation cannot go with dignity.

Spain has insisted upon the cession of Gibraltar as a preliminary to a

peace. This is, of itself, a considerable compensation for any damage

she may have sustained. Should she carry her demands further, and

agreeably to the ideas of the Spanish Ministers, expect to have any

exclusive right to the Gulf of Mexico, and the river Mississippi, she

must not only demand East and West Florida of the British, but she

must support the claims of Great Britain against those of America, the

claims of an enemy against the rights of a friend, in order that she

may make still further demands.

Will it consist with the dignity of his Catholic Majesty to ask, for

the short space in which he has been engaged in the war, not only

Gibraltar, but the two Floridas, the Mississippi, the exclusion of

Great Britain from the trade to the Bay of Honduras; while the other

branch of the House of Bourbon, who engaged early in the controversy,

confines her demands to the narrowest limits? Will he expose himself

to the imputation of despoiling an ally, (for such we are in fact,

though we want the name) at the instant that he is obtaining the

greatest advantages from the distress, which that ally has, at least

in part, contributed to bring upon his enemy? And this too, without

the least necessity, when he may, by accepting and purchasing our

title, appear to have contended for the rights of the United States.

This will then make no part of the satisfaction to which he is

entitled from Great Britain; he may justly extend his demands to other

objects; or exalt his character for moderation, by limiting them to

narrower bounds. This mode of reasoning will come with more weight,

when we display our rights before impartial mediators, and show that

recent conquests have been added to our ancient title, for it cannot

be doubted, that we shall at the close of the war make the most of

those rights, which we obtain no equivalent for, while it continues.

I persuade myself, therefore, that Spain will not risk the loss of so

important an object as the exclusive navigation of the Mississippi, by

postponing the treaty to a general peace, more particularly as a

treaty with us will secure our concurrence in their views at a general

Congress, as well as save them the necessity of making demands

inconsistent with that character for moderation, which their great

power renders important to them.

Congress flatter themselves, that the surmises on this subject are

groundless, and that before this reaches you, the treaty will be far

advanced. Should they be mistaken, you will take measures to know from

Spain, whether she accepts your concession as the price of our

alliance, and upon what terms. If they are such as you cannot close

with, and the treaty must break off, be persuaded, that any steps you

have taken or shall take, not inconsistent with the respect due to his

Catholic Majesty, to prevent the cessions you are empowered to make

from militating against our rights, will be approved by Congress.

Congress presume you will find no difficulty in knowing the intentions

of his Majesty on this subject, since they wish you to treat his

Ministers with that unreserved confidence, which becomes the

representative of a nation, which has no views that it does not avow,

and which asks no favor which it does not hope to return, and, as in

the present happy state of his Majesty's affairs, they can conceive no

reason for disguising his designs, they are satisfied, that your

frankness will meet from his Ministers with the confidence it merits.

I make no observations on the hint the Count de Florida Blanca gave

you, with respect to the restitution of such sums as Spain might be

pleased to advance to us; because, whatever claims we might set up to

a subsidy from the share we take in the burthen of the war, and the

utility of our exertions in the common cause, we are far from wishing

to lay ourselves under any pecuniary obligations for a longer time

than is absolutely necessary. A few years of peace will enable us to

repay with interest any sums, which our present necessities compel us

to borrow.

I cannot close this letter without expressing the grateful sense, that

Congress entertain of the disinterested conduct of Spain, in rejecting

the proffers of Great Britain, which must undoubtedly have been

considerable, if they bore that proportion to the importance of his

Catholic Majesty in the great system of politics, which those that

have been frequently thrown out to lead the United States to a

violation of their engagements, have done to their comparatively small

weight in the general scale. But as America never found the least

inclination to close with the insidious proposals of Great Britain, so

she finds no difficulty in believing, that the wisdom and magnanimity

of his Catholic Majesty will effectually guard him against every

attempt of his natural enemy, to detach him from those, who are daily

shedding their blood to avenge his injuries in common with their own.

I have the honor to be, &c.

ROBERT R. LIVINGSTON.

FOOTNOTES:

[1] This letter is in cypher, and the key has been lost.

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ROBERT R. LIVINGSTON TO JOHN JAY.

Philadelphia, April 28th, 1782.

Dear Sir,

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