II.

My Interview with Belgian Ministers of State.

In order that the civilized world should be acquainted with the terrible

atrocities committed in Belgium, the King of the Belgians, who had

served in the trenches with his men, disguised as a private soldier,

appointed a Mission to proceed to the President of the United States and

lay the case before him. The members of the Mission were:--

=M. Carton de Wiart, Chief of the Mission, who is the Belgian

Minister of Justice;=

=M. de Sadeleer, Leader of the Conservative Party;=

=M. Pau Hemans, Leader of the Liberal Party;=

=M. Emile Van der Velde, Leader of the Socialist Party.=

=All these men are Belgian Ministers of State, and were accompanied by

Count de Lichtervelde, who acted as Secretary to the Mission.=

The members of this Mission first came to London to present an Address

to the King. On the evening of the day these gentlemen were received by

His Majesty, and later by Sir Edward Grey, I had the privilege of a

private interview with them.

I had a long talk with M. Carton de Wiart, during which he unfolded to

me many frightful details, and

“=These abominable crimes against humanity and civilization call for

condign reprobation in the face of the civilized world.... Let us

hear no more whining about German ‘culture.’ But let us make it

known that we will make the world ring with our sense of

horror.=”--_Frederic Harrison._

explained the reason for the appointment of a committee of inquiry. He

described to me scenes he himself had witnessed. He laid stress upon the

bombardment and destruction of open towns--that is, towns unprotected

and undefended by any military works--such as Malines and Louvain; while

Antwerp, being a fortified place, ought to have had twenty-four hours’

notice given to its inhabitants before it was attacked with bombs, yet

no such notice was given. On the contrary, attacks by Zeppelins had been

made without warning in the dead of night. He also described to me the

atrocities committed by the Germans in the bombardment and setting fire

to small villages without any military reason or necessity whatever. He

related harrowing details of the massacre of perfectly innocent people,

non-combatants, men, women, and children.

He showed me a letter from a person of repute in Belgium who had motored

from Brussels to Louvain by the Tervueren road, in which I read: “After

I got to a village named Veerde St. George I saw only burning villages;

peasants beside themselves with terror threw up their arms in sign of

submission on my approach. When I got to Louvain I found the whole town

in ruins, and soldiers were still piling straw against buildings which

had escaped the flames and igniting them.”

Authenticated Documents.

The mass of documents which the Mission were carrying to America, he

informed me, were all signed statements of persons who had been

eye-witnesses of the atrocities, as well as those of many who had

suffered.

In a chat I also had with M. Emile Van der Velde, another member of the

Delegation and the leader of the Belgian Socialists, he said: “I went to

Malines after the fighting, in order to investigate the state of

affairs. I found only eight Belgian people in the town, but even then

the Germans were bombarding the deserted houses, apparently with the

sole object of destroying them. The whole object of the Germans,” he

added, “had been to create such a reign of terror that the whole

population of Belgium should flee into Antwerp, and so render it

impossible for the people congregated there to be fed. I myself examined

the bodies of a peasant and his son which had been cut to pieces by

bayonet thrusts.”

Another member of the Delegation told me that he had learned from

several wounded persons how a druggist living near Tirlemont, on

refusing to act as guide to the Uhlans, was shot three times and then

bayoneted; and further, in the same hospital, wounded soldiers had told

him how that while lying upon the battlefield many had been bayoneted or

shot.

The Delegation had, earlier in the day on which I had this interview

with them, presented an Address to His Majesty at Buckingham Palace, the

text of which has been published. It ran:--

“SIRE,--Belgium, having had to choose between the sacrifice of her

honour and the peril of war, did not hesitate. She opposed the

brutal aggression committed by a Power which was one of the

guarantors of her neutrality.

“In this critical situation it was for our country an inestimable

tower of strength to see coming forth the resolute and immediate

intervention by great and powerful England.

“Commissioned by His Majesty the King of the Belgians with a

Mission to the President of the United States, we have considered

it to be our duty to make a stay in the capital of the British

Empire to convey to your Majesty the respectful and ardent

expression of gratitude of the Belgian nation....

“Our adversary, after invading our territory, has decimated the

civil population, massacred women and children, carried into

captivity inoffensive peasants, put to death wounded, destroyed

undefended towns, burned churches, historical monuments, and the

famous library of the University of Louvain. All these facts are

established by authenticated documents. Each we shall have the

honour of submitting to the Government of your Majesty.

“In spite of all this suffering in Belgium, which has been made the

personification of outraged right, the country is resolute in

fulfilling to the utmost her duties towards Europe. Whatever may

happen, she must defend her existence, her honour, and her

liberty.”

The King, in reply, said that he would support Belgium, and expressed

his horror at the shocking report of German brutality.

The Belgian Minister’s Statements.

The delegation was subsequently received by Sir Edward Grey at the

Foreign Office, where they outlined some of the violations of

international law and of humanity committed by Germany, viz.:--

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