SAUCKEL: Yes, I asked for that in the interests of my tasks.
M. HERZOG: And do you not remember that on other occasions, the
Defendant Speer likewise asked that his powers should be increased at
the expense of yours?
SAUCKEL: Yes, that might have happened also.
M. HERZOG: You declared in your interrogatory that the very close
relations between Speer and Goebbels after the fall of Stalingrad made
Speer want particularly to have you under his authority. Can you confirm
this?
SAUCKEL: Yes.
M. HERZOG: Is it true that your general program for recruiting labor
included the employment of prisoners of war?
SAUCKEL: The employment of prisoners of war as far as they should and
could be put to work under the care of the Wehrmacht.
M. HERZOG: Do you remember the decree which we mentioned this morning,
your Decree Number 10, which stipulated the order of priority of work
and gave priority to armament? Was this order applicable to prisoners of
war as well?
SAUCKEL: As I explained yesterday, this decree was applicable to
prisoners of war only by way of exchange, and to the extent as set forth
in the rules of work issued by the OKW and by me in a catalog of work.
M. HERZOG: But Article 8 of this decree stipulates only that it was
applicable to prisoners of war.
SAUCKEL: Yes, in accordance, of course, with the other decrees which
existed; that was a matter of course.
M. HERZOG: You spoke to us yesterday about inspectorates. Is it true
that in September 1943 you came to an agreement with Dr. Ley concerning
the setting up of a central inspectorate for foreign workers?
SAUCKEL: Yes, for the purposes of their welfare.
M. HERZOG: In consequence, you admit that you are responsible for the
measures concerning the treatment of foreign workers?
SAUCKEL: I am responsible for the directives which I issued; they are
all available.
M. HERZOG: Do you consider yourself responsible for the feeding of
foreign workers?
SAUCKEL: I consider myself responsible for the directives which I issued
regarding the feeding of foreign workers. The actual feeding of these
people was not the task and responsibility of the labor authorities.
That was the responsibility of the factories, or the camp leaders who
had been charged by the factories to look after this.
M. HERZOG: I am going to have submitted to you Document Number 025-PS.
This document was submitted to the Tribunal under Exhibit Number
USA-698. You already had it yesterday. It consists of the report of a
meeting in the office of the Plenipotentiary General for the Allocation
of Labor—that is to say, you yourself—on 3 September 1942. The
document is dated 4 September.
This document, Mr. President, is at the end of my document book, after
Document F-827, the last page of the French translation. I read:...
THE PRESIDENT: The last page is Document F-857, is it not? The document
called 857—the last page I have got. It is just in front of Document
2200-PS. Did you come across that? It is just after Document 1913-PS.