M. HERZOG: I put the question again and read:

“My dear fellow countrymen, our magnificent SA and SS,

persecuted and insulted during a whole decade as the scum of the

German people, have carried through, supported, and sustained

this revolution with an unshakable discipline....”

Do you confirm this declaration?

SAUCKEL: Yes, but I request that I be shown the document in

cross-examination so that I can define my attitude in detail.

M. HERZOG: This document is taken from your own document book, which you

yourself submitted.

SAUCKEL: Yes, I remember it well.

M. HERZOG: Were the Nuremberg Laws concerning Jews in accordance with

your convictions?

SAUCKEL: I had no influence on legislation such as culminated in the

Nuremberg Laws. My conviction is that every nation and every race has

the right to exist and to demand respect and protection through itself.

What I demand and have demanded for my own people is exactly the same.

M. HERZOG: Did you see to it that the Nuremberg Laws were strictly

applied in the Gau of Thuringia?

SAUCKEL: The Nuremberg Laws could apply to Thuringia only insofar as my

authority to appoint or dismiss employees was involved; and, of course,

according to German law, it was my duty to carry out the law. The

carrying out of this law by me entailed neither ill-usage nor any other

inhuman treatment.

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