What is it to exclude? Why, it is to drive it out. It is in some way to

put it out of the Territory. It is to force it across the line, or change

its character so that, as property, it is out of existence. But what is

the controlling of it "as other property"? Is controlling it as other

property the same thing as destroying it, or driving it away? I should

think not. I should think the controlling of it as other property would be

just about what you in Kentucky should want. I understand the controlling

of property means the controlling of it for the benefit of the owner of

it. While I have no doubt the Supreme Court of the United States would

say "God speed" to any of the Territorial Legislatures that should thus

control slave property, they would sing quite a different tune if, by

the pretence of controlling it, they were to undertake to pass laws which

virtually excluded it,--and that upon a very well known principle to

all lawyers, that what a Legislature cannot directly do, it cannot do by

indirection; that as the Legislature has not the power to drive slaves

out, they have no power, by indirection, by tax, or by imposing burdens in

any way on that property, to effect the same end, and that any attempt to

do so would be held by the Dred Scott court unconstitutional.

Douglas is not willing to stand by his first proposition that they can

exclude it, because we have seen that that proposition amounts to nothing

more nor less than the naked absurdity that you may lawfully drive out

that which has a lawful right to remain. He admitted at first that the

slave might be lawfully taken into the Territories under the Constitution

of the United States, and yet asserted that he might be lawfully driven

out. That being the proposition, it is the absurdity I have stated. He

is not willing to stand in the face of that direct, naked, and impudent

absurdity; he has, therefore, modified his language into that of being

"controlled as other property."

The Kentuckians don't like this in Douglas! I will tell you where it will

go. He now swears by the court. He was once a leading man in Illinois to

break down a court, because it had made a decision he did not like. But

he now not only swears by the court, the courts having got to working

for you, but he denounces all men that do not swear by the courts,

as unpatriotic, as bad citizens. When one of these acts of unfriendly

legislation shall impose such heavy burdens as to, in effect, destroy

property in slaves in a Territory, and show plainly enough that there

can be no mistake in the purpose of the Legislature to make them

so burdensome, this same Supreme Court will decide that law to be

unconstitutional, and he will be ready to say for your benefit "I swear by

the court; I give it up"; and while that is going on he has been getting

all his men to swear by the courts, and to give it up with him. In this

again he serves you faithfully, and, as I say, more wisely than you serve

yourselves.

Again: I have alluded in the beginning of these remarks to the fact that

Judge Douglas has made great complaint of my having expressed the opinion

that this government "cannot endure permanently, half slave and half

free." He has complained of Seward for using different language, and

declaring that there is an "irrepressible conflict" between the principles

of free and slave labor. [A voice: "He says it is not original with

Seward. That it is original with Lincoln."] I will attend to that

immediately, sir. Since that time, Hickman of Pennsylvania expressed the

same sentiment. He has never denounced Mr. Hickman: why? There is a little

chance, notwithstanding that opinion in the mouth of Hickman, that he may

yet be a Douglas man. That is the difference! It is not unpatriotic to

hold that opinion if a man is a Douglas man.

But neither I, nor Seward, nor Hickman is entitled to the enviable or

unenviable distinction of having first expressed that idea. That same idea

was expressed by the Richmond Enquirer, in Virginia, in 1856,--quite two

years before it was expressed by the first of us. And while Douglas was

pluming himself that in his conflict with my humble self, last year, he

had "squelched out" that fatal heresy, as he delighted to call it, and

had suggested that if he only had had a chance to be in New York and meet

Seward he would have "squelched" it there also, it never occurred to him

to breathe a word against Pryor. I don't think that you can discover that

Douglas ever talked of going to Virginia to "squelch" out that idea there.

No. More than that. That same Roger A. Pryor was brought to Washington

City and made the editor of the par excellence Douglas paper, after making

use of that expression, which, in us, is so unpatriotic and heretical.

From all this, my Kentucky friends may see that this opinion is heretical

in his view only when it is expressed by men suspected of a desire that

the country shall all become free, and not when expressed by those fairly

known to entertain the desire that the whole country shall become slave.

When expressed by that class of men, it is in nowise offensive to him. In

this again, my friends of Kentucky, you have Judge Douglas with you.

There is another reason why you Southern people ought to nominate Douglas

at your convention at Charleston. That reason is the wonderful capacity of

the man,--the power he has of doing what would seem to be impossible. Let

me call your attention to one of these apparently impossible things:

Douglas had three or four very distinguished men of the most extreme

anti-slavery views of any men in the Republican party expressing their

desire for his re-election to the Senate last year. That would, of itself,

have seemed to be a little wonderful; but that wonder is heightened when

we see that Wise of Virginia, a man exactly opposed to them, a man who

believes in the divine right of slavery, was also expressing his desire

that Douglas should be reelected; that another man that may be said to

be kindred to Wise, Mr. Breckinridge, the Vice-President, and of your

own State, was also agreeing with the anti-slavery men in the North that

Douglas ought to be re-elected. Still to heighten the wonder, a senator

from Kentucky, whom I have always loved with an affection as tender

and endearing as I have ever loved any man, who was opposed to the

anti-slavery men for reasons which seemed sufficient to him, and equally

opposed to Wise and Breckinridge, was writing letters into Illinois to

secure the reelection of Douglas. Now, that all these conflicting elements

should be brought, while at daggers' points with one another, to support

him, is a feat that is worthy for you to note and consider. It is quite

probable that each of these classes of men thought, by the re-election of

Douglas, their peculiar views would gain something: it is probable that

the anti-slavery men thought their views would gain something; that Wise

and Breckinridge thought so too, as regards their opinions; that Mr.

Crittenden thought that his views would gain something, although he was

opposed to both these other men. It is probable that each and all of them

thought that they were using Douglas; and it is yet an unsolved problem

whether he was not using them all. If he was, then it is for you to

consider whether that power to perform wonders is one for you lightly to

throw away.

There is one other thing that I will say to you, in this relation. It is

but my opinion, I give it to you without a fee. It is my opinion that it

is for you to take him or be defeated; and that if you do take him you

may be beaten. You will surely be beaten if you do not take him. We, the

Republicans and others forming the opposition of the country, intend to

"stand by our guns," to be patient and firm, and in the long run to beat

you, whether you take him or not. We know that before we fairly beat

you we have to beat you both together. We know that you are "all of a

feather," and that we have to beat you all together, and we expect to

do it. We don't intend to be very impatient about it. We mean to be as

deliberate and calm about it as it is possible to be, but as firm and

resolved as it is possible for men to be. When we do as we say,--beat

you,--you perhaps want to know what we will do with you.

I will tell you, so far as I am authorized to speak for the opposition,

what we mean to do with you. We mean to treat you, as near as we possibly

can, as Washington, Jefferson, and Madison treated you. We mean to leave

you alone, and in no way interfere with your institution; to abide by all

and every compromise of the Constitution, and, in a word, coming back to

the original proposition, to treat you, so far as degenerated men (if we

have degenerated) may, according to the examples of those noble fathers,

Washington, Jefferson, and Madison. We mean to remember that you are

as good as we; that there is no difference between us other than the

difference of circumstances. We mean to recognize and bear in mind always

that you have as good hearts in your bosoms as other people, or as we

claim to have, and treat you accordingly. We mean to marry your girls when

we have a chance, the white ones I mean; and I have the honor to inform

you that I once did have a chance in that way.

I have told you what we mean to do. I want to know, now, when that thing

takes place, what do you mean to do? I often hear it intimated that you

mean to divide the Union whenever a Republican, or anything like it, is

elected President of the United States. [A voice: "That is so."] "That is

so," one of them says; I wonder if he is a Kentuckian? [A voice: "He is

a Douglas man."] Well, then, I want to know what you are going to do with

your half of it? Are you going to split the Ohio down through, and push

your half off a piece? Or are you going to keep it right alongside of us

outrageous fellows? Or are you going to build up a wall some way between

your country and ours, by which that movable property of yours can't come

over here any more, to the danger of your losing it? Do you think you can

better yourselves, on that subject, by leaving us here under no obligation

whatever to return those specimens of your movable property that come

hither? You have divided the Union because we would not do right with you,

as you think, upon that subject; when we cease to be under obligations to

do anything for you, how much better off do you think you will be? Will

you make war upon us and kill us all? Why, gentlemen, I think you are as

gallant and as brave men as live; that you can fight as bravely in a

good cause, man for man, as any other people living; that you have shown

yourselves capable of this upon various occasions: but, man for man, you

are not better than we are, and there are not so many of you as there are

of us. You will never make much of a hand at whipping us. If we were fewer

in numbers than you, I think that you could whip us; if we were equal, it

would likely be a drawn battle; but being inferior in numbers, you will

make nothing by attempting to master us.

But perhaps I have addressed myself as long, or longer, to the Kentuckians

than I ought to have done, inasmuch as I have said that whatever course

you take we intend in the end to beat you. I propose to address a few

remarks to our friends, by way of discussing with them the best means of

keeping that promise that I have in good faith made.

It may appear a little episodical for me to mention the topic of which

I will speak now. It is a favorite position of Douglas's that the

interference of the General Government, through the Ordinance of '87, or

through any other act of the General Government never has made or ever can

make a free State; the Ordinance of '87 did not make free States of

Ohio, Indiana, or Illinois; that these States are free upon his "great

principle" of popular sovereignty, because the people of those several

States have chosen to make them so. At Columbus, and probably here, he

undertook to compliment the people that they themselves have made the

State of Ohio free, and that the Ordinance of '87 was not entitled in any

degree to divide the honor with them. I have no doubt that the people

of the State of Ohio did make her free according to their own will and

judgment, but let the facts be remembered.

In 1802, I believe, it was you who made your first constitution, with

the clause prohibiting slavery, and you did it, I suppose, very nearly

unanimously; but you should bear in mind that you--speaking of you as

one people--that you did so unembarrassed by the actual presence of

the institution amongst you; that you made it a free State not with the

embarrassment upon you of already having among you many slaves, which if

they had been here, and you had sought to make a free State, you would

not know what to do with. If they had been among you, embarrassing

difficulties, most probably, would have induced you to tolerate a slave

constitution instead of a free one, as indeed these very difficulties have

constrained every people on this continent who have adopted slavery.

Pray what was it that made you free? What kept you free? Did you not

find your country free when you came to decide that Ohio should be a free

State? It is important to inquire by what reason you found it so. Let us

take an illustration between the States of Ohio and Kentucky. Kentucky is

separated by this River Ohio, not a mile wide. A portion of Kentucky, by

reason of the course of the Ohio, is farther north than this portion of

Ohio, in which we now stand. Kentucky is entirely covered with slavery;

Ohio is entirely free from it: What made that difference? Was it climate?

No. A portion of Kentucky was farther north than this portion of Ohio.

Was it soil? No. There is nothing in the soil of the one more favorable

to slave than the other. It was not climate or soil that mused one side of

the line to be entirely covered with slavery, and the other side free of

it. What was it? Study over it. Tell us, if you can, in all the range

of conjecture, if there be anything you can conceive of that made that

difference, other than that there was no law of any sort keeping it out of

Kentucky, while the Ordinance of '87 kept it out of Ohio. If there is any

other reason than this, I confess that it is wholly beyond my power to

conceive of it. This, then, I offer to combat the idea that that Ordinance

has never made any State free.

I don't stop at this illustration. I come to the State of Indiana; and

what I have said as between Kentucky and Ohio, I repeat as between

Indiana and Kentucky: it is equally applicable. One additional argument

is applicable also to Indiana. In her Territorial condition she more than

once petitioned Congress to abrogate the Ordinance entirely, or at least

so far as to suspend its operation for a time, in order that they should

exercise the "popular sovereignty" of having slaves if they wanted them.

The men then controlling the General Government, imitating the men of the

Revolution, refused Indiana that privilege. And so we have the evidence

that Indiana supposed she could have slaves, if it were not for that

Ordinance; that she besought Congress to put that barrier out of the way;

that Congress refused to do so; and it all ended at last in Indiana being

a free State. Tell me not then that the Ordinance of '87 had nothing to do

with making Indiana a free State, when we find some men chafing against,

and only restrained by, that barrier.

Come down again to our State of Illinois. The great Northwest Territory,

including Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, and Wisconsin, was acquired

first, I believe, by the British Government, in part at least, from the

French. Before the establishment of our independence it became a part

of Virginia, enabling Virginia afterward to transfer it to the General

Government. There were French settlements in what is now Illinois, and at

the same time there were French settlements in what is now Missouri, in

the tract of country that was not purchased till about 1803. In these

French settlements negro slavery had existed for many years, perhaps more

than a hundred; if not as much as two hundred years,--at Kaskaskia, in

Illinois, and at St. Genevieve, or Cape Girardeau, perhaps, in Missouri.

The number of slaves was not very great, but there was about the same

number in each place. They were there when we acquired the Territory.

There was no effort made to break up the relation of master and slave, and

even the Ordinance of 1787 was not so enforced as to destroy that slavery

in Illinois; nor did the Ordinance apply to Missouri at all.

What I want to ask your attention to; at this point, is that Illinois and

Missouri came into the Union about the same time, Illinois in the latter

part of 1818, and Missouri, after a struggle, I believe sometime in 1820.

They had been filling up with American people about the same period of

time; their progress enabling them to come into the Union about the same

time. At the end of that ten years, in which they had been so preparing

(for it was about that period of time), the number of slaves in Illinois

had actually decreased; while in Missouri, beginning with very few, at the

end of that ten years there were about ten thousand. This being so, and it

being remembered that Missouri and Illinois are, to a certain extent, in

the same parallel of latitude, that the northern half of Missouri and the

southern half of Illinois are in the same parallel of latitude, so that

climate would have the same effect upon one as upon the other, and that in

the soil there is no material difference so far as bears upon the question

of slavery being settled upon one or the other,--there being none of those

natural causes to produce a difference in filling them, and yet there

being a broad difference to their filling up, we are led again to inquire

what was the cause of that difference.

It is most natural to say that in Missouri there was no law to keep that

country from filling up with slaves, while in Illinois there was the

Ordinance of The Ordinance being there, slavery decreased during that ten

years; the Ordinance not being in the other, it increased from a few to

ten thousand. Can anybody doubt the reason of the difference?

I think all these facts most abundantly prove that my friend Judge

Douglas's proposition, that the Ordinance of '87, or the national

restriction of slavery, never had a tendency to make a free State, is a

fallacy,--a proposition without the shadow or substance of truth about it.

Douglas sometimes says that all the States (and it is part of this same

proposition I have been discussing) that have become free have become so

upon his "great principle"; that the State of Illinois itself came

into the Union as a slave State, and that the people, upon the "great

principle" of popular sovereignty, have since made it a free State. Allow

me but a little while to state to you what facts there are to justify him

in saying that Illinois came into the Union as a slave State.

I have mentioned to you that there were a few old French slaves there.

They numbered, I think, one or two hundred. Besides that, there had been

a Territorial law for indenturing black persons. Under that law, in

violation of the Ordinance of '87, but without any enforcement of the

Ordinance to overthrow the system, there had been a small number of

slaves introduced as indentured persons. Owing to this, the clause for

the prohibition of slavery was slightly modified. Instead of running like

yours, that neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except for crime,

of which the party shall have been duly convicted, should exist in the

State, they said that neither slavery nor involuntary servitude should

thereafter be introduced; and that the children of indentured servants

should be born free; and nothing was said about the few old French slaves.

Out of this fact, that the clause for prohibiting slavery was modified

because of the actual presence of it, Douglas asserts again and again that

Illinois came into the Union as a slave State. How far the facts sustain

the conclusion that he draws, it is for intelligent and impartial men

to decide. I leave it with you, with these remarks, worthy of being

remembered, that that little thing, those few indentured servants being

there, was of itself sufficient to modify a constitution made by a people

ardently desiring to have a free constitution; showing the power of the

actual presence of the institution of slavery to prevent any people,

however anxious to make a free State, from making it perfectly so.

I have been detaining you longer, perhaps, than I ought to do.

I am in some doubt whether to introduce another topic upon which I could

talk a while. [Cries of "Go on," and "Give us it."] It is this, then:

Douglas's Popular sovereignty, as a principle, is simply this: If one man

chooses to make a slave of another man, neither that man nor anybody else

has a right to object. Apply it to government, as he seeks to apply

it, and it is this: If, in a new Territory into which a few people are

beginning to enter for the purpose of making their homes, they choose

to either exclude slavery from their limits, or to establish it there,

however one or the other may affect the persons to be enslaved, or the

infinitely greater number of persons who are afterward to inhabit that

Territory, or the other members of the family of communities of which they

are but an incipient member, or the general head of the family of States

as parent of all, however their action may affect one or the other of

these, there is no power or right to interfere. That is Douglas's popular

sovereignty applied. Now, I think that there is a real popular sovereignty

in the world. I think the definition of popular sovereignty, in the

abstract, would be about this: that each man shall do precisely as he

pleases with himself, and with all those things which exclusively concern

him. Applied in government, this principle would be that a general

government shall do all those things which pertain to it, and all the

local governments shall do precisely as they please in respect to those

matters which exclusively concern them.

Douglas looks upon slavery as so insignificant that the people must decide

that question for themselves; and yet they are not fit to decide who

shall be their governor, judge, or secretary, or who shall be any of

their officers. These are vast national matters in his estimation; but the

little matter in his estimation is that of planting slavery there. That

is purely of local interest, which nobody should be allowed to say a word

about.

Labor is the great source from which nearly all, if not all, human

comforts and necessities are drawn. There is a difference in opinion about

the elements of labor in society. Some men assume that there is necessary

connection between capital and labor, and that connection draws within

it the whole of the labor of the community. They assume that nobody works

unless capital excites them to work. They begin next to consider what is

the best way. They say there are but two ways: one is to hire men, and to

allure them to labor by their consent; the other is to buy the men, and

drive them, to it, and that is slavery. Having assumed that, they proceed

to discuss the question of whether the laborers themselves are better off

in the condition of slaves or of hired laborers, and they usually decide

that they are better off in the condition of slaves.

In the first place, I say that the whole thing is a mistake. That there is

a certain relation between capital and labor, I admit. That it does exist,

and rightfully exists, I think is true. That men who are industrious, and

sober, and honest in the pursuit of their own interests should after a

while accumulate capital, and after that should be allowed to enjoy it in

peace, and also, if they should choose, when they have accumulated it,

to use it to save themselves from actual labor, and hire other people

to labor for them, is right. In doing so they do not wrong the man they

employ, for they find men who have not of their own land to work upon,

or shops to work in, and who are benefited by working for others, hired

laborers, receiving their capital for it. Thus a few men, that own

capital, hire a few others, and these establish the relation of capital

and labor rightfully, a relation of which I make no complaint. But I

insist that that relation, after all, does not embrace more than one

eighth of the labor of the country.

[The speaker proceeded to argue that the hired laborer, with his ability

to become an employer, must have every precedence over him who labors

under the inducement of force. He continued:]

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