The sentence will be executed.

Berlin, .... November 1943

(Expert on the case: Chief Public Prosecutor Dr. Franke)

Initials] R [Rothenberger]

V [Vollmer]

PARTIAL TRANSLATION OF DOCUMENT NG-674

PROSECUTION EXHIBIT 100

CIRCULAR LETTER FROM THE REICH MINISTRY OF JUSTICE TO LEADING JUDGES

AND PROSECUTORS, 19 FEBRUARY 1944, TRANSMITTING EXCERPTS FROM REPORTS

OF A CONFERENCE OF JUSTICE OFFICIALS ON CASES OF “UNDERMINING” AND

“MALICIOUS POLITICAL ACTS”[511]

The Reich Minister of Justice

3131 E--I p 2 43

Berlin W 8, 19 February 1944

Wilhelmstrasse 65

Telephone: 110044

Long distance: 116516

_Confidential_

To: 1. The Presidents of the Reich Supreme Court and of the

People’s Court

2. The Reich Chief Prosecutors at the Reich Supreme Court and at

the People’s Court

3. The Presidents of the District Courts of Appeal

4. The Attorneys General at the District Court of Appeal

Subject: Meeting on 3 and 4 February 1944

Enclosures: Additional copies for the presidents of the district

courts and the chief public prosecutors

Enclosed please find a copy of excerpts from some of the reports in the

field of criminal justice of the Reich Ministry of Justice made at the

session on 3 and 4 February 1944. Point No. 7 was not discussed at the

session, I beg you to discuss this point, too, at the meeting planned

with the judges and prosecutors of your district and to see that they

observe the instructions given in the copy.

[Stamp]

Reich Minister of Justice

Ministerial Chancellery

BY ORDER:

[Typed] DR. VOLLMER

Certified: [Signed] BLUENKE

Clerk

313 E--3 a 3376

To: The Chief Public Prosecutors, for information

Munich, 7 March 1944

The Attorney General

BY ORDER:

[Typed] signed: KEIDEL

Chief Public Prosecutor

1. _Definition of cases of “Undermining” [Military Efficiency] and

cases of “Malicious Political Acts”_[512]

The relations between the law on malicious acts against State and

Party, article 2, paragraph 1, and the decree concerning special

penal law in wartime, has changed during the fourth and fifth year of

the war. The development was speeded up by the events at Stalingrad

and in Italy. This found its outward expression in the following

measures: setting up a special committee for cases of undermining the

morale--for serious and acute attempts at undermining morale--in the

Reich Ministry of Justice, a corresponding agreement with the Reich

Security Main Office, by taking steps concerning the distribution of

work at the People’s Court and by a press campaign. A number of Special

Court districts and also certain criminal divisions with the district

courts of appeal have not yet followed the new practice. The severity

of their sentences does not agree with the penalties of the sentences

at the People’s Court. Conditions are to be made clear by this report

and by a Judges’ Letter.[513] The temporary defensive attitude at the

front means a burden for the home front. The enemy is looking for weak

spots, and thinks he has found them in the will for self-assertion of

the inner front, as it was 1914–1918. Since the Italian events he has

been intensifying this attack. The not very numerous cases of defeatism

resulting from it have led to a new line in the administration of

justice in cases of undermining of military efficiency, which is to be

organically followed in the treatment of cases concerning malicious

political acts. The following cases dealt with by the Reich Ministry of

Justice, are intended to illustrate this line.

Clear cases of serious undermining of the military efficiency

_Case Dr. Geiger_--a 52-year-old physician, Party member, no prior

convictions.

_Offense_--In summer 1943, the condemned man made a remark during

the treatment of the pregnant wife of a Hitler Youth Leader who was

at the front at that time that she had courage in having a child now.

For if things went wrong, we would be in a bad way. After the events

in Italy the war was lost for us, a victory of the Russians meant our

physical death, a defeat by the English and Americans was still the

smaller evil. She--the patient--was too much under the influence of

Nazi propaganda. To the scared question of the pregnant woman, what was

going to happen to all of them, the condemned man answered that persons

living such an “exposed” position (as her husband) naturally would be

dealt with in the first place. Then there would be a mass Katyn.[514]

Sentence of the People’s Court--8 September 1943--death sentence.

Request of the public prosecutor--death sentence. Plea for clemency was

refused.

_Case Weber_--a 60-year-old dentist, Party member, no previous

convictions.

_Offense_--In August 1943 the condemned man made the remark to a

patient--hardly anybody still believed in victory. Medieval methods of

torture were applied in our concentration camps; especially homosexuals

were being too harshly dealt with; we had murdered a million Jews and

therefore had incurred a grave burden of guilt. Rudolf Hess was the

right man but not the Fuehrer. The condemned man went on literally:

“Moreover, in 4 weeks’ time, the Fuehrer will no longer be alive. You

will hear about it.”

Sentence of the People’s Court of 15 September 1943--death sentence.

Request of the public prosecutor--death sentence. Plea for clemency was

refused.

In cases of undermining the morale the consideration of the actual

nature of the facts must not be excessive. In the fifth year of the

war every German has to think about the effect of his remarks to other

people. The same applies to foreigners, who are working here and enjoy

German hospitality. Critical, for instance, authorized discussions of

the political and the war situation are not punishable only as long as

they are not calculated to shake the convictions of others.

Up until now, no need has been observed to give the prerequisite

“publicly” in article 5 of Extraordinary War Penal Ordinance a more

rigid interpretation than is done in cases of malicious political acts.

As such to be considered are remarks falling under article 2 of the

law against insidious attacks on State and Party, which do not result

in influencing other people. Two examples are the cases of Krejci and

Kochzius.

_Case of Krejci_--41-year-old home worker, no previous convictions.

_Offense_--In spring 1943 the condemned woman told the following

joke:

“Who is the biggest farmer in Germany”?

“Adolf Hitler, he owns a lame dog, a fat pig, and many million

sheep.”

(With the lame dog and the fat pig she meant Goebbels and

Goering.)

Sentence of the Special Court II Berlin of 5 October 1943--6 months

imprisonment.

_Case of Kochzius_--a 57-year-old printer.

_Offense_--At the beginning of 1942, the condemned man answered

the greeting, “Heil Hitler,” with, “Shit.”

In December 1942 when Fuehrer parcels were distributed in the plant, he

made the remark that he did not want the Fuehrer and these parcels, he

was no beggar.

In January 1943 the condemned man declared, that the Fuehrer was a

tramp; a vagabond without a Fatherland who came from abroad where only

beggars lived; he intended to make the Germans into beggars too; he was

making the people ridiculous in the eyes of foreigners by the street

collections. The entire government as well as the Party consisted of

tramps and rascals.

To a Party member he remarked, that he had better hurry up and get out,

otherwise he would be hanged from a tree later on. Sentence of the

Special Court II Berlin of 28 September 1943--1 year imprisonment.

Border line cases are the cases of Graf, Kessel, Eckert, and Heinitz.

_Case of Graf_--a 65-year-old farmer, no previous convictions.

_Offense_--In spring 1943 the accused declared, “Hitler must

abdicate, then the war will stop.”

In autumn 1943 he made the remark, “The war will not stop until Hitler

abdicates.”

In October 1943 he remarked, “The Germans bled to death in the advance,

and now they bleed to death in the street. In summer, one runs to save

every little berry, and now one has to watch how everything perishes.

It only depends on a few gentlemen. With the war it is just the same

thing. All their throats should be cut.”

In agreement with the general public prosecutor, the Chief Public

Prosecutor proposes not to order prosecution under article 2 of the

statute against malicious political acts but to warn the defendant

by imposing a fine. The defendant had a good reputation and was a

participant of World War I, had several sons at the front, and had

already backed the NSDAP before it had taken over.

The opinion of the field offices that this case was one of malicious

political acts cannot be agreed to. It rather represents a case of

undermining the morale, which has already been submitted to the Chief

Public Prosecutor for examination.

* * * * *

_Case Eckert_--domestic servant, 50 years of age, single, no

previous convictions.

_Offense_--In the afternoon of 14 September 1943, the accused,

in a shop, said to the female proprietor in front of partly unknown

persons, “By Christmas, the war will long be over. Germany has long

since been divided up.” Obviously she alluded to a defeat in the very

near future. When asked by an employee of the local health insurance

office, how she thought it would be if the war were lost and we would

all have to go to Russia, the accused replied, “Very well, let them

send those 5 million SS men there. During the last air raid on Mannheim

the SS, those bloody swines, chased the people out of the shelters with

rubber truncheons for fire-fighting and clean-up work.”

The Chief Public Prosecutor with the approval of the General

Public Prosecutor wants to base the charge on article 2 of the law

against malicious political acts or insults to the State or Party

(Heimtueckegesetz)[515] and to propose a prison term of 9 months. This

is a border line case. Certainly the statements made by the accused in

their second part fulfill the conditions of malicious political acts

or insults to the State or Party. Regarded as a whole, however, the

accused obviously had in mind to injure the listeners’ will to pull

through, as can be seen from the first part of her statements. When

she met with resistance in doing so, she tried to support her opinion

by abusive language and by telling atrocity stories. The trend of her

statements therefore was directed toward undermining [the military

efficiency].[516] Therefore, the accused will, in the first place, have

to be prosecuted under this provision.

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PARTIAL TRANSLATION OF DOCUMENT NG-671

PROSECUTION EXHIBIT 220

EXTRACTS FROM THE SITUATION REPORT OF DEFENDANT LAUTZ, CHIEF PUBLIC

PROSECUTOR AT THE PEOPLE’S COURT, TO THIERACK, 19 FEBRUARY 1944,

CONCERNING THE UNDERMINING OF MILITARY EFFICIENCY

Copy

Berlin W 9, 19 February 1944

Bellevuestrasse 15

The Chief Public Prosecutor of the People’s Court

4206 E--2.36

[Initials] KL [Klemm]

[Stamp]

SECRET

To the Reich Minister of Justice

Berlin W 6

Wilhelmstrasse 65

Decrees of 25 October 1933--IIIa 19570/35 and 29 October

1942--3130-Ia _9_ 1746-.

Enclosures: 2 copies of the report.

[Handwritten illegible marginal notes]

[Handwritten note] M.D. IV Mr. B.S.S. request to be informed in

regard to p. 9.

[Signed] MARTIUS 28 February

_Situation Report_

A. _High treason and undermining of military efficiency within the

Reich territory (except for the Protectorate)_

I. _General._

* * * * * * *

In accordance with the expectation expressed already in my previous

report of 8 October 1943, the number of incoming reports on

investigations concerning undermining of military efficiency has again

increased considerably. At present the daily average amounts to about

25 cases. Since, in addition, numerous investigations which are not

handled by special proceedings and which could not yet be concluded are

pending, I am forced at present due to the pressure of business in my

office and the further difficulties caused by the effects of the terror

raids to make more extensive use of my right to turn matters over to

another office. However, in the interest of a uniform jurisdiction the

indictments will principally be served before the People’s Court in all

cases where--

_a._ The undermining activity involves members of the Wehrmacht.

_b._ Greater significance is ascribed to the statements of the

accused because of his position in public life or in the economy.

_c._ The accused has become known as an enemy of the State

on principle or a systematic instigator either according to his

personality or because of the nature of his offense.

_d._ The personality of the accused in connection with the nature

of his offense or the effect he strived for seems to point to special

treatment.

_e._ The offender belongs to the clergy.

In view of the necessity of turning over proceedings, even in which the

offense can be called a serious one without question, I have generally

informed the chief public prosecutors concerned in advance of the

altered way in which I am going to handle my right to turn matters over

to another authority. In addition to this they will in each single

case be especially informed about my conception of the case and will

be requested within the limits of my right of turning cases over to

them, not to consider taking on less serious cases but to strive for

the highest possible penalty if the state of the investigations at

the moment the case is handed over gives a sufficiently clear picture

of the case in this respect. In comparison with the previous report,

no essential new experiences were gained regarding the nature of the

offenses and the personality of the offenders. Especially could it

not be determined that the number of punishable offenses increased,

particularly in those territories subject to a special air terror of

the enemy. It is rather characteristic that the manifold rumors about

alleged riots among the population in the cities damaged by air raids

often arose in regions not at all or only slightly affected by the

air terror. This leads, on the one hand, to certain conclusions as to

the intentions of the propagators of these rumors. On the other hand,

however, it can be taken as a pleasing sign for the truly disciplined

attitude of the population that suffers most from the enemy’s air

terror.

II. _Special Proceedings._

* * * * * * *

[Typed] signed: LAUTZ

EXTRACT FROM THE TESTIMONY OF DEFENDANT SCHLEGELBERGER[517]

_DIRECT EXAMINATION_

* * * * * * *

DR. KUBUSCHOK (counsel for defendant Schlegelberger):

According to the document I have before me, Document NG-412,

Prosecution Exhibit 77,[518] the Ministry of Justice made a suggestion

to increase the severity of penal provisions concerning the preparation

of treason. Would you explain this?

DEFENDANT SCHLEGELBERGER: The situation with regard to the law

was the following: Preparation for treason [Landesverrat] could not be

punished by death. Treason, that is to say the betrayal of the native

country in my opinion, is the most severe and most serious political

crime, and the danger inherent in that crime reveals itself already

in its preparation. As can be seen from the document, the question

had come before the public and had been discussed in public on the

occasion of the Sklarek case, and had become the subject of a heated

discussion. It was known to me that Hitler once before in a cabinet

meeting had taken the position that preparation for treason should be

punished by death. It was quite obvious for me that as a consequence

of the Sklarek case and, on that, Hitler’s point of view was also

known to other people, a new storm would come up; in fact it was the

expressed purpose to force matters upon the administration of justice

so that afterward one could make use of these matters, by saying that

the administration of justice itself was not strong enough to find

the right position, or in order to institute and justify proceedings

outside the administration of justice. I considered it appropriate,

therefore, to bring this question into the stage of a legal regulation

as quickly as possible. In the draft the death penalty was provided

for very serious cases, cases of aggravating circumstances, and that

provided the guaranty at least for the fact that in ordinary court

proceedings it would have to be examined whether that really was a

severe case. The danger was quite acute that unless in time such a law

would be promulgated, other elements, namely, the police, would have

seen to it and would have taken care of it wholesale without examining

individual cases. Since the cases in question were cases of the past,

retroactive measures had to be permitted. That is well within all legal

guaranties.

* * * * * * *

EXTRACTS FROM THE TESTIMONY OF DEFENDANT LAUTZ[519]

_DIRECT EXAMINATION_

* * * * * * *

DR. GRUBE (counsel for defendant Lautz): Mr. Lautz, is it

correct that in 1938 you received an offer to become senate president

in the Reich Military Court?

DEFENDANT LAUTZ: That is correct. I was well known to the

Ministerial Director at the High Command of the Wehrmacht, Lehmann, who

appeared as a witness before this Tribunal and who offered me in 1918

to become senate president at the Reich Military Court.

Q. Just a moment, I believe you made a mistake, you meant to say 1938?

A. Yes, 1938.

Q. At that time, would you have improved your financial situation if

you had accepted?

A. Yes. The position was much better paid.

Q. Why did you not accept that position?

A. I did not accept it only for the one and decisive reason that I did

not want to leave the beautiful district of Karlsruhe for the time

being.

Q. For how long were you general public prosecutor in Karlsruhe?

A. Unfortunately, only until 1939.

Q. May I now ask you, who was Parey?

A. Parey was Reich Public Prosecutor since 1936, later chief Reich

prosecutor [Oberreichsanwalt] at the People’s Court in Berlin.

Q. And for what reason did Parey leave his office as Chief Reich

Prosecutor at the People’s Court?

A. At the beginning of November 1938. He had an automobile accident.

Q. When did you find out for the first time that you were being

considered as Parey’s successor?

A. At the beginning of December 1938. The then Under Secretary

Freisler, on order of Minister Guertner, informed me that Guertner had

chosen me as his--that is, Parey’s--successor.

Q. Did you make any efforts to obtain that position?

A. Not at all.

Q. Did you do anything against your appointment as chief Reich

prosecutor at the People’s Court?

A. I was very much interested in getting out of being appointed to that

position, and because of that I consulted with the personnel division

of the Ministry as to how I could prevent my appointment. However, I

was told that Minister Guertner attached importance to my taking that

position, and therefore, being a civil servant I complied.

Q. May I ask you why you had an aversion to that office?

A. First of all, because of the exclusive occupation with political

penal cases and in connection with that the absolute dependence upon

the Ministry which was my superior was not an inducement for me; even

though, at that time, I could not have the remotest idea that war would

shortly break out, that Minister Guertner would die, and that through

all these events a course would be followed in politics which, in any

case, was not in accordance with the one that I imagined.

That was my main reason. My second reason was that I wanted to remain

in Karlsruhe.

Q. When were you appointed Chief Reich Prosecutor?

A. I was appointed on 1 July 1939.

Q. At that time, did you still count upon becoming Chief Reich

Prosecutor, since Parey had already left the office some time before?

A. Since it took such a long time I had the hope, quietly, that perhaps

another person would be found.

Q. Did you ever find out whether any office of the Party or any other

organization of the Party was in favor of your appointment as Chief

Reich Prosecutor?

A. I never heard anything about that.

Q. When, in effect, did you assume your office as Chief Reich

Prosecutor at the People’s Court?

A. Due to illness, I only assumed office on 20 September 1939, in

Berlin.

Q. However, you had already been appointed on 1 July?

A. Yes.

Q. Mr. Lautz, may I ask you this? Before 1933, did you belong to a

political party?

A. From 1924 to 1930, I was a member of the German People’s Party. That

was the party of Minister Etresemann, who became well known through

the policy of understanding which he followed toward the victorious

countries of 1918, and whose efforts, in particular to reach an

understanding with France in order to bring about peace in Europe, I

welcomed very warmly and supported.

Q. When did you become a member of the National Socialist Party?

A. On 1 May 1933.

Q. Will you please tell the Tribunal for what reasons you joined the

Party?

A. Before the spring of 1933, I belonged to the Prussian Judges’

Association, in which organization I worked on press matters as a

member of the board of directors. The Prussian Judges’ Association

decided to urge its members to join the Party. I joined because,

according to the situation prevailing at the time, I considered it to

be the correct and proper thing to do.

Q. Mr. Lautz, at that time in 1933, did the joining of a party have the

significance of 100 percent approval of the Party platform? Was it not

rather like this, that since the Weimar era joining a party by no means

implied that one approved of its ideology?

A. In the case of many persons who joined the Party at that time, that

was so.

* * * * * * *

Q. Through my documents in Lautz document book 1, I have already shown

that the competence of the People’s Court to sentence defeatist cases

was introduced only beginning in February 1943. Witness, for how long

did the special penal regulations for wartime exist on which these

trials against undermining of military efficiency were based?

A. This special wartime penal order is from 1938[520] which was put

into effect only on 26 August 1939.

Q. Originally the Reich military court was competent for those cases

of undermining of fighting force or the other military courts, is that

correct?

A. Yes. That is correct, not only for members of the Wehrmacht but also

for civilians.

Q. In 1940 the competency in regard to civilians was transferred to the

general courts?

A. Yes. That is correct.

Q. Who became competent at that time for the cases of the so-called

public undermining of military efficiency?

A. Public undermining of military efficiency was prosecuted by the

senior public prosecutors at the special courts and/or was to be tried

by the Special Courts.

Q. When in 1943 the cases of so-called public undermining of military

efficiency were transferred to the People’s Court, had the law, in

effect, been applied for 4 years?

A. Yes.

Q. Is it correct, Witness, that the decision as to whether a public

undermining of military efficiency was proved depended upon the

following two points: first, what does the legislator mean by an

attempt to undermine; and second, when was this attempt to undermine

committed in public? Is it correct that those were the two nuclei in

this question?

A. Yes.

Q. Is it furthermore correct that, when in 1943 the People’s Court

became competent, these two basic questions of undermining of fighting

efficiency were based on a general jurisdiction originating first from

the Reich Military Court, then the Reich Supreme Court, and then of the

Special Court--that these decisions existed already?

A. The Reich Military Court had in several very basic decisions decided

these questions without any doubt.

Q. In regard to these points from which it is especially evident that

the definition of “public attempt of undermining” had already been

laid down definitely in 1943, I shall prove by some further documents.

Witness, how did the individual cases of undermining come to your

office?

A. That differed. In part, the senior public prosecutor at the Special

Court who considered the case as leaving room for no doubt submitted

the files to me. If, on the other hand--and that occurred in the

majority of cases--he harbored doubts whether this was not merely a

malicious act, then, as was his duty, he reported it to the Minister

of Justice, and the Minister of Justice decided whether a case was

to be regarded as undermining of fighting efficiency and should be

transferred to the chief Reich public prosecutor.

This is evident from the affidavit by the witness Franke, which the

prosecution submitted.

Q. May I refer to the fact that this is Exhibit 515[521] submitted by

the prosecution. Furthermore, I am referring to Exhibit 97[522] of the

prosecution. Witness, did it continue the way you described it just

now, later on too?

A. Later on, two more basic changes occurred. A very severe decree

of 13 August 1943 was introduced. Minister Thierack required a more

expeditious and more emphatic trying of certain especially serious

cases of undermining of fighting strength. For this purpose, it

had been ordered that the RSHA submitted those cases which were not

very numerous, either through the hands of the Minister of Justice

or directly to me. I submitted them to a special division because

the division which treated other cases of undermining of military

efficiency was no longer in a position, merely due to the large number

of cases, to take over this new work also. These cases in the main

are those in which the so-called quick trials [schnell termine] took

place which have frequently been discussed here already. Due to the

importance of the cases, Freisler also did not let anybody deprive

him of trying these cases basically in his senate. Moreover, due to a

later decree by the Minister of Justice, it was laid down that in the

preliminary investigation of the cases which were to be submitted to

the chief Reich Public Prosecutor, that the presidents of the district

courts of appeal should be included in order to avoid too many of these

files being submitted to the office of the Reich Public Prosecutor.

The final decree which concerns these cases, and which I am citing

because perhaps it is important in the von Braun case, is the

following instruction by the minister. If an indictment is filed

before the Special Court in a malicious acts case, and during the

trial the Special Court decides however that possibly this might be an

undermining of military efficiency in which case the Special Court was

not competent to sentence, then the Special Court should not through an

uncontested decision refer this to the People’s Court, but the Chief

Reich Public Prosecutor should ask for an adjournment so that the chief

Reich public prosecutor could examine the case in every individual

case. If he considered it not suitable, he was to return it to the

Special Court. In this way, it was intended to prevent that through

such decisions against which it could do nothing, the People’s Court

was burdened with cases which did not concern it.

Q. Witness, how were pending cases treated? How were the cases

which came to it treated by the office of the Reich prosecutor, and

especially how was the conduct of the members?

A. When the order came into effect--the order of 29 August 1943--at

which time the People’s Court became competent, at that time I was on

an official trip outside of Berlin. When I returned, I found out that

the defendant Barnickel, who at that time was my deputy, had handed

over the handling of the cases which came to his division. At that

time, he was of the opinion--at least, that is what he told me--that

his division was less burdened and therefore was in the best position

to be able to handle the new influx of cases. I let matters stand as

they were.

First, we introduced the following treatment of the cases and we also

maintained this for several weeks and months. At certain intervals of

2 or 3 days, every case that was handled by the expert or the Referent

in the presence of the division chief was reported to me, and then we

made a decision as to whether we wanted to file an indictment before

the People’s Court and for what reasons this was necessary. Varying

reasons governed this. In part, the cases were so serious that there

was no doubt about this. In part, we considered it necessary in order

to bring about certain basic decisions on principle--to bring about

the sentencing by the senate of the People’s Court. During that time,

the number of prison sentences that were pronounced was without doubt

larger than the number of death sentences. The enormous incidence of

new cases, however, brought it about, and this is also apparent from

the situation report which the prosecution submitted, in the beginning

of 1944--

Q. I may interpolate here that the defendant is speaking of Prosecution

Exhibit 220.[523]

A. That at the end of the year 1943, quite a considerable number of

cases were in arrears. Therefore, I decided that in regard to the

cases of undermining of fighting strength to gather them in a special

division which would have the task--especially in regard to the backlog

cases--to clean it up as quickly as possible. Among these, there were

a number of cases of arrest whose expeditious handling was necessary

especially because in a large number of these cases the transfer to

a subordinate court was necessary. Therefore, I could not act in

any other way. No division chief was anxious to be given this new

division. Therefore, I decided that the defendant Rothaug should take

it over.[524] First of all, he was the youngest division chief, and

up to then he had been in charge of a division which was so small and

insignificant that it was easiest to replace him by a senior public

prosecutor.

From the situation report which I mentioned, it is also evident what

the number of cases was which came to us at the time. They amounted to

about seven to eight hundred a month. This figure shows me that when I

was interrogated preliminary to this trial, I made a wrong estimate. At

that time I thought it was twice as high as it actually was.

Q. Witness, you have just said that the number of cases in the

undermining of military efficiency increased to about seven to eight

hundred cases a month. I would like to put another question to you

on that subject. Did that mean that before the People’s Court seven

hundred to eight hundred cases of undermining of military efficiency

were tried every month?

A. No. That figure refers to the number of cases which were submitted

to the Reich prosecution for examination. As I will mention later, only

a small percentage of those cases--I estimate about 10 percent--were

kept back. All other cases were returned to subordinate courts. In my

situation report, if I may repeat that, I only gave the number which I

did mention there because only at the trial here I saw that situation

report again. I ascertained that the figures which I had given in

Exhibit 126,[525] from memory were evidently incorrect.

Q. By that you mean to say that the figures in Exhibit 126, the figures

which you gave from memory, are too high?

A. That is what I did mean to say.

Q. How did you, in general, treat these questions of undermining

military efficiency?

A. To a large extent the treatment of such cases depended on the clear

instructions from the Minister of Justice. It also depended on the

basic importance of these cases. To mention one example, I would like

to revert once again to the situation report of 9 February 1944, that

is Exhibit 220. In that report it says that the undermining of military

efficiency when committed by clergymen would have to be tried before

the People’s Court. That was due to a decree by the Reich Minister

of Justice. Generally speaking, however, in treating these cases I

attached the greatest importance to having every single file examined

carefully by the head of the department so that those points would not

be left unobserved which would justify treating that case in a more

lenient manner. For in particular the transfer of these cases as being

cases of lesser importance to the district courts of appeal or to the

Special Courts, to that I attached the greatest importance, as far as

it was at all possible. That is proved not only by the testimony of the

witness Gruenwald[526] before this Tribunal but it is also evident from

Prosecution Exhibits 178, 474, and 100.[527] For the numbers of cases

where criticism was exercised by the ministry on sentences passed by

lower courts, and in particular at the Weimar conference [_NG-674,

Pros. Ex. 100_] would remain incomprehensible unless many cases

which were more serious had been transferred to the lower courts by the

Reich prosecution.

In the last analysis, perhaps the percentage of cases which we kept

back, as I mentioned before, and of the cases where an indictment was

filed, at the People’s Court, I estimate those cases at 10 percent.

* * * * * * *

Q. Witness, do you still remember what information you received in

regard to the question whether recruiting offices for the Polish Legion

existed in Switzerland?

A. I said that already. From the answer of the head office of the

border police in Stuttgart, it was apparent without doubt that

according to the information which they had from Switzerland that

there was an illegal recruiting and transport service which helped

Poles to get to Switzerland and to Africa; to that extent, Switzerland

apparently did everything that it was possible to do, and as far as it

could; and from the files it is occasionally apparent that the Swiss

border officials returned the Poles who had crossed the border from

Germany; but in all cases they probably did not succeed.

Q. Had the Ministry of Justice also informed you to what extent

recruiting offices for the Polish Legion existed in Switzerland?

A. If I remember correctly, the same information had also reached us

from the Foreign Office via the Ministry of Justice.

Q. Thank you. The prosecution seems to assume that the indictments

were not the results of attempts to join the Polish Legion, but were a

means to prosecute Poles because of their flight from Germany and their

places of work. Please comment on this.

A. For us, that certainly was not the motive for the filing of an

indictment, because we were convinced that the suspicion was justified.

Moreover, against such allegations the fact probably speaks which can

be gathered from Exhibit 259[528] of the prosecution. From that it can

be gathered that particularly at the time in question here, hundreds

perhaps thousands of Poles left their places of work in the Reich; and

if only a very small number of these were tried before a court because

they wanted to join the legion, this makes it apparent that they

were not tried only because they left their place of work. The other

participating offices, that is the police and the counterintelligence

of the OKW, were probably also of the opinion that here we were faced

not only with flight from the place of work, but flight for a special

purpose.

The general situation was just as I described it. During the war the

German Reich, as any warring power, had closed its borders and this had

been done for reasons of the security of the State and was therefore

necessary because everybody who crossed the border and reached neutral

country or an enemy country took along with him important experiences

and knowledge which he had gained in the warring country. Poles knew

that too.

Q. Witness, you have already stated before that a Pole, only for the

reason that he had left his place of work on his own, could not be

tried and sentenced by the People’s Court. Now, according to your

determinations in the individual cases in which Poles were indicted

because of attempts to reach the Polish Legion, did other reasons for

suspicion also play a role which supported the suspicion on the basis

of which then in accordance with the law you were obliged to raise an

indictment?

A. I just wanted to talk about that.

Q. Will you please state what reasons for suspicion have regularly

played a role also?

A. If somebody crosses the border with a certain purpose in mind and

he is caught in the act, then, in the most infrequent of cases will he

be inclined to say and be ready to say what intentions he had in mind,

for in so doing he would damage his own case. Criminal cases which were

conducted under this point of view--and this is probably not the case

only in Germany--therefore are based to a large extent on the justified

conclusions one can draw from the facts available.

Now, it was here known generally what I have already stated, that this

way led to the Polish Legion if one started out on it. Secondly, it

was known that among the Polish workers in south-western Germany these

conditions and knowledge thereof were widespread. Furthermore, it was

generally known to those workers too that favorable conditions for work

could not be expected in Switzerland; and finally, it was in accordance

with the experiences which had been gathered in other trials that a

large number of these people who crossed the border after their arrest

did not even deny this intention. These general considerations alone

would have, in my opinion, justified such a strong suspicion that in

accordance with German Code of Criminal Procedure sufficient suspicion

for the filing of an indictment existed, and that thus the indictment

had to be filed in accordance with the law.

The two indictments which bear my signature are the Bratek and

Stefanowitsch cases. The following element, however, is added. Bratek

had referred to the fact that he only wanted to cross the border in

order to avoid work.

DR. GRUBE: In the Bratek case here we are concerned with

Prosecution Exhibit 136.[529]

DEFENDANT LAUTZ: As I said, he claimed it was only for the

reason to attempt to seek work that he did want to cross the border.

By means of the additional investigations which the division chief

instituted, however, it had been found that he did not like to work;

he had already left other places of work, so that his statement that

he wanted to seek new work in another country in which there were

difficult conditions of work did not seem very credible. So for that

reason his statement had to be accepted with reservations.

* * * * * * *

_CROSS-EXAMINATION_

* * * * * * *

MR. KING: I ask you if it were possible to commit treason

against an individual who was not of German citizenship in the period

which we are discussing.

DR. GRUBE: I object to this question. This is a question which

is asking only for the personal opinion of the witness.

PRESIDING JUDGE BRAND: The objection is overruled.

DEFENDANT LAUTZ: If I understand you correctly, Mr.

Prosecutor, you want to know whether the act of treason was punishable

only when it, the act, was directed against the State as such, or also

when it was directed against an individual person.

MR. KING: Yes. My following question was going to refer to

the differences which you raised. But actually you have stated it very

well. I want to know whether at this time the period which we are

concerned with at the moment, if during that period treason could be

committed against an individual who was not a German citizen, and I

take it that your answer on that is no, is that correct?

DEFENDANT LAUTZ: That had been different ever since the law of

1934.

Q. Yes. I know but I am speaking of the law prior to 1944.

A. No, what I said was 1934. I said the law before 1934. I am referring

to the law 1934 with article 91 [of the Reich Criminal (Penal) Code]

which then became a law.[530]

That article says that the act of treason can be directed against

a German national as an individual, and it was a question of

interpretation whether “German” should here be interpreted as being

of German blood or being a German citizen, and the famous document

in which I made a report to the Reich Ministry of Justice deals with

that question.[531] It is that report which concerns itself with that

question. The courts in the Reich interpreted article 91 to the effect

that it was not the nationality which was decisive but the race, the

blood.

Q. Yes. Well, it is that letter to which I want eventually to refer. I

wanted, however, to get your understanding of the earlier laws before

we get around to discuss the question of that letter. What you have

just said was that article 91 which was adopted in 1934 expanded the

concept of treason to the extent that there could be treason against an

individual who was a Reich national; is that correct?

A. Against a German. And who is a German? That was a question of

interpretation. I believe I can best make myself clear if I come back

to the example which is mentioned in this report. After the occupation

of the eastern territories, that is Poland, that is to say after the

occupation of those territories, which formerly had been German, the

following case came to our knowledge. An ethnic German, a person who

was a German by blood, had had the following experiences. Behind his

back a Polish agent had hidden espionage material in his home without

the German knowing that that material had been hidden there. The

Polish agent then chased the Polish police after him, and his home was

searched by the Polish police. The material was found and the German

who was completely innocent but who could not prove his innocence was

tried in Poland before 1939 and he got a very heavy prison sentence. I

don’t think you would approve of that, would you? When we occupied the

eastern territories that case came to our knowledge--

Q. Excuse me, Dr. Lautz. Is this the Krippner case to which you refer,

or is this the Moses case? There are two of them which you mentioned in

this report.

A. No, no. I cannot remember the--

Q. Would you like to see that exhibit?

A. I cannot remember the name unless you would show me the document.

The name doesn’t matter. It is the facts of the case that matter here.

Q. I think you will find this report referred to in document book 5-B,

beginning on page 73 of the German text.

PRESIDING JUDGE BRAND: Dr. Lautz, will you finish what you

were saying when counsel interrupted you?

DEFENDANT LAUTZ: Yes. I will. After the occupation of Poland

that shameful case, to use a mild expression, came to the knowledge of

the German authorities; and we were now concerned with the question as

to what could be done; and the application of article 91 of the German

Criminal (Penal) Code was interpreted so that in this case treason had

been committed against a German. Treason had been committed against a

man of German blood, treason which could be prosecuted.

Q. It was treason against one of German blood who was not then a German

citizen.

A. He was not a German citizen, but he was of German blood.

Q. The date of that again? When that happened, when it came before this

department?

A. Your Honor, may I just have a look at the report? May I have a look

at the report to make sure of the date?

Q. Yes.

A. That is the case Goleck, which is mentioned in the report. The false

accusation against the person of German blood was made in the year

1938, that is to say, it happened before the war.

Q. And it came up to the Ministry of Justice after the war to decide?

A. That happened during the war when Polish files were confiscated.

MR. KING: Dr. Lautz, you have the letter before you now?

DEFENDANT LAUTZ: Yes.

* * * * * * *

Q. May I ask you to refer to the top of page 75 in the German text, I

believe it is? It is the middle of page 68 in the English.

PRESIDING JUDGE BRAND: What exhibit are you referring to?

MR. KING: I am referring to Document NG-548, Prosecution

Exhibit 347, Your Honor.

Now, could we look at that separate opinion of yours at the end of the

letter?

DEFENDANT LAUTZ: Yes.

Q. Go ahead, please.

A. It begins with the words, “With the Reich Leader SS and the

President of the People’s Court I agree with this.”

Q. Dr. Lautz, see if you can find this portion in the document which

you have. I am sorry you don’t have the document book as it was

originally distributed. I had it paginated for that. Can you find this

statement? You say, “Therefore”--and I believe this is part of your

letter--“Therefore, I find it necessary, on principle, to protect by

means of the German Criminal (Penal) Code those racial Germans who have

seriously suffered through action such as mentioned in article 91,

paragraph 2 of the Penal Code, provided that action deserves punishment

in accordance with sound German sentiment but where such punishment,

considering the elements of wrongdoing of that particular case, cannot

be brought home on the strength of any other directly applicable penal

regulation.”

Those are your words, are they not?

A. Yes.

Q. And then you say in the final paragraph of the letter, “In the

majority of the cases it will be offenses which have been committed by

foreign nationals abroad against racial Germans.” Is that correct?

A. Yes, it is.

Q. That is correct, and those are your words?

PRESIDING JUDGE BRAND: Will you answer audibly so that

reporters may get it?

DEFENDANT LAUTZ: What the prosecutor stated just now is what I

reported.

MR. KING: And then you asked for approval of your

interpretation; is that correct? That is the very last sentence in the

letter?

DEFENDANT LAUTZ: Yes. I had to ask for that because the

decision lay with the Minister of Justice.

Q. Yes. Now, in subsequent cases that came before the People’s Court in

which you were required to file the indictment, you based the charges

on the interpretation which was subsequently approved by the Reich

Ministry of Justice, the interpretation which you ask here? Is that

right?

A. From case to case the Minister of Justice afterward decided as to

whether that procedure was to be adopted or not. He did not issue a

general instruction or directive.

Q. Do I understand you correctly? Let me restate it. Did you mean to

say that even after you asked for this interpretation it was necessary

in the future when cases came up involving these facts that the

Minister of Justice give his approval before you filed your indictment?

Is that correct?

A. The indictment was drafted, and the draft was submitted to the

Minister of Justice, and he approved it or did not approve it.

Q. But the draft of the indictment was based on the law which you

suggested be interpreted as we have discussed it. Then having drafted

the indictment based on this interpretation you got approval or

disapproval, as the case might be, from the Minister of Justice. Is

that right?

A. Yes.

PRESIDING JUDGE BRAND: What was the answer?

MR. KING: The answer was yes, Your Honor.

* * * * * * *

EXTRACTS FROM THE TESTIMONY OF DEFENDANT BARNICKEL[532]

_DIRECT EXAMINATION_

* * * * * * *

DR. TIPP (counsel for defendant Barnickel): Witness, please

describe further events.

DEFENDANT BARNICKEL: About the end of 1937--beginning of

1938, I was in Berlin again. I told the personnel Referent, who was a

different official then, about my wishes for the position in Munich,

but the case was not that far yet. To my great surprise, on 30 November

1938, I received the communication that, on 1 December 1938, I was to

be appointed Reich prosecutor with the People’s Court.

* * * * * * *

Q. When and how did you assume your new position?

A. As I have already explained, I received the formal appointment on 30

November 1938. The Minister granted me a few days to straighten out my

affairs in Munich, and thus, I assumed office on 6 December 1938.

Q. What position did you hold in the beginning?

A. On 3 November 1938, the chief Reich prosecutor of the People’s

Court, Parey, had had a fatal accident. His permanent deputy, at

that time the only Reich prosecutor, Parisius, was in the hospital

seriously injured. On 1 December 1938, three new Reich prosecutors

had been approved for that office. Of those, two were from the office

proper, and I was the third one. Upon instruction by the minister, I

was to be in charge of the office as a deputy because according to my

age I was the oldest of the three Reich prosecutors there.

Q. Witness, in this connection, I should like to discuss a document

submitted by the prosecution. It is Prosecution Exhibit 347, Document

NG-548. The letter has the heading “Chief Reich Prosecutor with the

People’s Court” and is of 23 April 1942, and is directed to the Reich

Minister of Justice. In this letter, another letter by the Reich Leader

SS and Chief of the German Police of 13 December 1941 is quoted. The

latter letter is directed to, and I quote, “The Chief Reich Prosecutor

with the People’s Court, attention: Senior Reich Prosecutor Dr.

Barnickel, or deputy.” You are therefore addressed as Chief Reich

Prosecutor with the People’s Court, Witness. Can you please explain how

it may have come to that designation?

A. I cannot answer that question with absolute certainty because I do

not happen to know why the office which sent that letter did it. It

is, however, certain that I was never Chief Reich Prosecutor with the

People’s Court. I was only Reich prosecutor at all times, although,

during the first 2 months, I deputized for the Chief Reich Prosecutor,

but during the first few years of my activity I frequently received

similar letters. The first few times, I actually opened them. Later, I

sent them to the office for incoming mail unopened. I assumed at that

time that some office of the Gestapo, by mistake, had entered my name

as Chief Reich Prosecutor on their records because, in the beginning,

I was in charge of the office as a deputy. But the main point seems to

be the following. I can see from the letter which is addressed to me,

that it is quite clear that I never had anything to do with the answer

to that letter. I see that with absolute certainty from the contents of

the letter.

Q. For how long after you assumed the office were you in charge of the

affairs of the Chief Reich Prosecutor?

A. Until 1 February 1939.

Q. Did it happen frequently later that you had to deputize for the

chief?

A. Yes, but not very frequently. The Chief Reich Prosecutor and his

permanent deputy appointed by the Minister, Reich Prosecutor Parisius,

of course, tried to arrange not to be absent at the same time. Only

if that did happen, I, as the oldest Reich prosecutor, had to take

care of affairs. I have to correct myself, that is to say, after Reich

Prosecutor Parisius, I was the oldest. Since the end of 1943, I was

no longer used to deputize. I was evacuated to Potsdam at that time

and Reich Prosecutor Weyersberg was the deputy of the Chief Reich

Prosecutor.

* * * * * * *

Q. * * * May I ask you now to direct your attention to Prosecution

Exhibit 159, which we have already mentioned? That is the Prosecution

Document NG-381.[533] It appears in document book 3-G, on page 22

of the German and page 19 of the English text. The subject of these

proceedings is the trial of Oscar Beck, for undermining the military

efficiency.

PRESIDING JUDGE BRAND: A correction, for the purposes of the

record. Exhibit 159 is in document book 3-D, at page 17 of the English.

DR. TIPP: Thank you.

The indictment appears on page 2 of the document, and following pages.

On page 4 there is the signature, “As deputy, Dr. Barnickel.” That is

to say, you signed that indictment. Apparently you did so when you were

deputizing for the chief who was away. At any rate, the document does

bear your signature. Would you please tell us why that indictment was

filed with the People’s Court?

DEFENDANT BARNICKEL: Because of the fact that I was so

overburdened with work at the time, I cannot remember any details of

the case. However, I can say for certain that the reason for filing the

indictment with the People’s Court was not--I am referring to the fact

which has been mentioned here before--that Beck was of mixed descent,

first degree. I think I have explained sufficiently my attitude to that

question in general, but I shall revert to that subject later. That

attitude of mine had remained the same for 10 years, and I did not

change it in 1943. The fact that it was a Vienna Ortsgruppenleiter who

denounced the man--that fact, too, is of no importance. I believe it is

hardly necessary for me to mention this, but for my department, too,

which submitted that case to me, it was of no importance either.

As I look at that indictment now, I am inclined to assume that we

wanted to arrive at a basic decision. The novel element in the

proceedings against Beck was the fact that he had criticized the

employment of women. That was a measure which only started in the first

weeks of 1943. It was designed to keep up production, and it had been

ordered by the Reich and not by the Party. I believe that all the

belligerent countries had introduced measures of that kind.

According to the date when the indictment was filed, it is possible

that this indictment of Beck was the first one of its kind. Not only

the legal questions decide what the basic element of such a case is,

but novel facts of a case also can constitute a basic element.

For the rest, ever since I had been acquainted with the Reich

prosecutor’s office, occasionally less significant cases, where one

was not expecting a very serious sentence and certainly not the death

sentence were indicted with the People’s Court if they were of a

certain importance for the whole country.

Q. Witness, you say, then, that you believe the indictment was filed

with the People’s Court because the case was important for the whole

country and because it contained a novel element?

A. Yes, that is possible.

Q. Does the form of the indictment show that it was the intention to

ask for the death sentence?

A. No, on no account. When the indictment was phrased, and in

particular because of the legal provisions which were cited, in all

that there is nothing to indicate that it was intended to ask for

the death sentence. On the contrary, and I should like to refer to

the enclosure, the letter which was sent with the indictment. It was

written on 30 July 1943, to the presiding judge of the People’s Court.

In the second paragraph of that letter, which is also signed by me, it

is expressly pointed out that under article 2 of the law of 20 December

1934, prosecution under that law had been ordered. That law was the

Insidious Acts Law, which has been mentioned here a great many times.

I should think that is a proof for the fact that we considered the

application of that law also possible, for otherwise it would have been

stupid to make reference to it. The maximum penalty for violation of

the Insidious Acts Law would have been a 5-year sentence. I think it is

possible that not only the question of the employment of women was the

cause for taking this case to the People’s Court, but also the question

of the application of the law in general.

Q. Witness, what was the senate with which your department cooperated

in the field of undermining military efficiency?

A. It was the fourth senate, and the presiding judge was Dr. Koehler,

whose name has been mentioned in a favorable context repeatedly here.

May I state that in 1944 Dr. Koehler was transferred from the People’s

Court to Stettin, because Freisler did not approve of him. The fourth

senate dealt mainly with high treason cases. Later on it also had to

deal with the undermining of military efficiency. However, when the

distribution of work was changed again, it had to return those cases

because there was dissatisfaction with the sentences that that senate

had passed.

* * * * * * *

PRESIDING JUDGE BRAND: I wonder if you could tell me what

was meant by the last phrase in that letter, where you say, “The

prosecution under article II of the law of 20 December 1934 has been

ordered as a precaution.” The part, “the prosecution has been ordered

as a precaution,” what did you mean by that?[534]

DEFENDANT BARNICKEL: Your Honor, by that I want to say that

that passage points out that if sentence was not to be passed on

the basis of undermining military efficiency, prosecution under the

Insidious Acts Law would be made.

Well, that was a case of a measure which might be taken, Your Honor.

Q. I understand. Was it the practice to appoint defense counsel even in

cases where the death penalty was not expected, in your court, in the

People’s Court?

A. Your Honor, at my time--I don’t know what happened later--but at my

time, every defendant who appeared before the People’s Court had to

have a defense counsel without exception. That had nothing to do with

the death penalty.

PRESIDING JUDGE BRAND: Thank you.

DR. TIPP: Witness, may I repeat my question. I may ask you to

tell us what were these general prerequisites for filing an indictment?

DEFENDANT BARNICKEL: Well, that question has been touched

upon repeatedly here. There had to be sufficient suspicion that

the defendant had committed the offense, that is to say, a certain

probability was sufficient.

Q. In connection with the undermining of military efficiency

particularly in this case, I think a further question is important. The

question, what did one mean when one said the undermining of military

efficiency in public?

A. According to the jurisdiction of the Supreme Reich Court and the

Supreme Military Court, military efficiency was undermined in public

even if statements had been made in front of only one person, if the

offender had to expect that that person would pass on his statements to

an indefinite number of other persons.

Q. These two prerequisites, therefore in your opinion in the Beck case,

did exist?

A. Yes.

Q. Now, one more question concerning the undermining of military

efficiency cases in general. Were all those cases dealt with by your

department?

A. To start with, yes; from the summer of 1943, however, certain

categories of cases were transferred to Department I, which

collaborated with Freisler’s senate. According to the distribution plan

of the People’s Court, Freisler could also deal with certain cases from

my department, at his senate.

Q. How long was it that your department dealt with those undermining of

military efficiency cases?

A. Until 31 December 1943. Then they were transferred to another

department.

* * * * * * *

EXTRACTS FROM THE TESTIMONY OF DEFENDANT ROTHAUG

ON THE LOPATA CASE[535]

_DIRECT EXAMINATION_

* * * * * * *

DR. KOESSL (counsel for defendant Rothaug): The Lopata case

was first tried by another court and not by the Special Court in

Nuernberg.[536] Please tell us what was the first court that tried his

case and whether that court was a Special Court.

DEFENDANT ROTHAUG: The case was tried for the first time on 28

April 1942, before the local court at Neumarkt in the Upper Palatinate.

The local court was not a Special Court.

Q. What were the facts which were the subject of the proceedings

against Lopata during the trial at Neumarkt?

A. The defendant had been charged only with having approached a woman

in a way which was sexually offensive, although that woman again and

again tried to get rid of him. He was also charged with irregular

behavior, which, however, in the course of developments played no

important part and that charge was dropped.

Q. Please tell us what was the personal description of the defendant

which was given by the local court at Neumarkt?

A. In the judgment, it is pointed out that the defendant looked well

groomed, but he was insolent, lazy, and he had been guilty of the

offense with which he was charged in a way, and I quote, “Which showed

an unheard of extent of shamelessness and insolence of which only a

member of the Polish nation would be capable.” However, that is a

statement made by the local court at Neumarkt.

Q. Did the local court at Neumarkt have anything to do with the Special

Court at Nuernberg?

A. Nothing. No.

Q. Was the judgment by the local court at Nuernberg upheld?

A. The judgment by the local court at Neumarkt was by decision of the

Reich Supreme Court of 14 July 1942 annulled by way of a nullity plea,

and the trial was transferred to the Special Court at Nuernberg.

Q. What was the criticism of the Supreme Reich Court in the judgment

passed by the Neumarkt local court?

A. The Reich Supreme Court criticized the fact that the local court

at Neumarkt, concerning certain generally known conditions which were

connected with wartime conditions, although that had been obvious in

the case in question, had not taken such conditions into consideration,

and therefore apparently had ignored the fact that the offense with

which the defendant had been charged also violated article IV of the

law against public enemies. For that reason, it was necessary to refer

the case to another court so that the case be examined from that point

of view, and if that should be found right, so that article IV of

the law against public enemies could be applied, if that were found

applicable. Further reasons for the decision which are given are that

the application of article IV of the law against public enemies would

mean that a considerably higher penalty could be pronounced, and that

for that reason the case would have to be tried again.

* * * * * * *

Q. In its opening statement the prosecution quoted the following

sentence from the judgment: “The inferiority of the defendant lies in

his character, and the reason for it evidently is that he belongs to

the subhuman race of the Poles.” Is that quotation correct?

A. Well, there is a typing error here which rather distorts matters

because actually it says in the judgment--it doesn’t say “the subhuman

race,” but it means the subhumanity of [Polnisches Untermenschentum],

and that is something essentially different. We have subhumanity in

Germany and we have developed our own laws against that and when we

speak of Polish subhumanity we do not mean the Polish people as such;

that is what we would have meant if we had spoken of the subhuman

Polish race, and for that idea and opinion there is a concrete reason.

In many cases we had found that among the Poles who had been brought to

Germany there was a considerable number of highly criminal types from

Poland. The agencies which dealt with getting labor from Poland did

not select properly and thereby created a great danger. We discovered

people who had been previously convicted for murder and had been

sentenced to penitentiary for life, but who on account of the outbreak

of war had been set free, and who had now come to Germany. That point

of view played a part in considering all these questions. That is to

say, we did not speak of the subhuman Polish race but we spoke of the

subhumanity in Poland.

PRESIDING JUDGE BRAND: May I interrupt, please? The question

of translation has arisen. The Tribunal would be glad to have a check

made by the prosecution as to the original document and the proper

translation of it. That will dispose of this entire matter.

MR. WOOLEYHAN: Yes, Your Honor.

DR. KOESSL: The originals of the files here--I don’t

know--probably the prosecution has the copy, and perhaps that copy also

has the mistake.

PRESIDING JUDGE BRAND: It is a question of what the document

says and it should be able to be ascertained with definiteness. The

suggestion that the document may have used the wrong word is not

satisfactory to us. We want to know what word was used in the original

document.[537] Go ahead to something else and straighten that out

afterward.

DR. KOESSL: Witness, at the trial before the Special Court at

Nuernberg, were any facts brought to light which were not mentioned by

the judgment passed at Neumarkt?

DEFENDANT ROTHAUG: That is clearly evident from the judgment.

In addition to the facts which had originally been established, a

further fact had been established according to which the defendant had

attacked the old people who were living on a lonely farm with a dung

fork and had exerted so much pressure on them that the only way for

them to save themselves was to unleash the dog.

When evaluating the character as a whole of the defendant, as the

judgment shows, that fact was taken into account. That fact in the last

analysis was decisive.

Q. Can you show that that point in particular was very decisive? Can

you show us that by quoting a passage from the original file?

A. That is shown by our attitude to the clemency question. In our

opinion on the clemency question we, without exception, repeated those

facts which had been decisive for us in deciding on the sentence. We

did not state other general points of view concerning the clemency

plea because we didn’t know them, and secondly, because we were of the

view that they didn’t affect us in any way. That brief opinion on the

clemency question says--

“The character of the defendant has been clearly described at

the trial, in particular also the fact that the defendant, apart

from the offense which in its execution was very grave, has also

made himself guilty of violent behavior toward his employer.”

In other words, it is made perfectly clear here that the last point of

view was decisive for us.

PRESIDING JUDGE BRAND: May I ask you a question to which the

answer, I think, could be brief? My notes show that the defendant was

sentenced to death for violation of articles 2, 3, and 4 of the law or

decree concerning Poles and Jews. Is there such a provision in your

judgment? You needn’t read it. Just tell me if that is in there.

DEFENDANT ROTHAUG: Yes.

PRESIDING JUDGE BRAND: Thank you.

DR. KOESSL: The witness Doebig said that the offense in his

view was not designed to prove that the offender was a public enemy.

Would you, therefore, please briefly summarize the points which led

you to assume that a very serious offense had been committed?

DEFENDANT ROTHAUG: The justification for our sentence can

be seen from the opinion given by the court, and that is before this

Tribunal. I cannot say any more. All I can add is, that specifically

for this case that is to say for the original case that had to be dealt

with, that is to say, for molesting the woman in a sexual way, there

was a decision from the Reich Supreme Court which stated an opinion

specifically in regard to this question and discussed it from its basic

angles, and that decision evidently was the cause for considering the

death sentence at all.

With us a further point of view was added and it was that decision that

was made available to the court.

* * * * * * *

PRESIDING JUDGE BRAND: I should like your professional

opinion. Was the nullity plea[538] involved in the Lopata case? I don’t

remember at the moment.

MR. WOOLEYHAN: Yes, Your Honor.

PRESIDING JUDGE BRAND: What is your best, honest judgment as

to whether or not if Lopata had been a racial German there would have

been a nullity plea and a direction from the Reich supreme court to

retry the case? What is your honest opinion about that?

DEFENDANT ROTHAUG: Mr. President, these two cases cannot be

compared with each other because the Reich Supreme Court in this case

stated its opinion on the basis that he was a Pole.

Q. Now, I am asking if Lopata had been a racial German, all other facts

being the same as they were in the Lopata case, is it your judgment

that the nullity plea would have been invoked and that the Reich

Supreme Court would have ordered the case sent back to you for another

trial? I should like your opinion on that.

A. Mr. President, this question is very interesting, but I cannot even

imagine that possibility, even theoretically, because the very elements

which are of the greatest importance could not be applied to a German.

PRESIDING JUDGE BRAND: That’s all I wanted to know.

* * * * * * *

F. Handling of Religious Matters

TRANSLATION OF DOCUMENT NG-630

PROSECUTION EXHIBIT 428

LETTER FROM DEFENDANT SCHLEGELBERGER TO CHIEF PUBLIC PROSECUTORS AND

SENIOR PUBLIC PROSECUTORS, 20 JULY 1935, CONCERNING THE “STRUGGLE

AGAINST POLITICAL CATHOLICISM”

The Reich Minister of Justice

V a 25 399

Berlin W8, 20 July 1935

Wilhelmstrasse 65

[Illegible Stamp]

[Handwritten] 2 copies sent to [illegible]

To: Messrs. Chief Public Prosecutors and Senior Public

Prosecutors

Subject: Struggle against political Catholicism

For your confidential information and notice, I enclose a copy of the

Prussian Ministerpraesident’s decree of 16 July 1935--St.M.I. 7905--to

the Oberpraesidenten and Regierungspraesidenten, etc.

I decree it to be the duty of all prosecuting authorities to cooperate

closely with the competent State Police and administrative authorities

in taking action--with the deliberation necessary to avoid mistakes but

also with the severity necessitated by the dangerous nature against all

manifestations of the efforts of political Catholicism to undermine the

unity of the State and create discord among the people, wherever they

appear without regard for the person or rank of the perpetrator.

[Handwritten remarks on left margin illegible; illegible signature.]

For this purpose, the application of the following laws will be found

particularly useful: Articles 130a, 131, 134a, 134b (as of 1 September

1935) Reich Criminal (Penal) Law; further, articles 1 and 2 of the law

against insidious attacks on the State and Party and for the protection

of Party uniforms of 20 December 1934[539] (Law Gazette I, p. 1269);

the decree of the Reichspraesident for the Protection of People and

State of 28 February 1933[540] (Law Gazette I, p. 83); the law against

the founding of new parties of 14 July 1933 (Law Gazette I, p. 479);

and the law against public collections of 5 January 1934 (Law Gazette

I, p. 1086).

The cases must be investigated with the utmost rapidity, so that

the punishment will follow the crime as quickly as possible. The

penalties called for at the trials shall be such as the national

sense of justice deems appropriate to the dangerous nature of these

intrigues against the State and people and the unscrupulousness of the

perpetrators.

A report must be made to me in quintuplicate in all cases where

proceedings of this type are initiated. At the close of the

investigation a concluding report on the incidents indicating the

measures to be taken will be submitted to me. In case of an indictment,

the bill of indictment, and later the sentence, will be submitted,

each in quintuplicate. If the sentence imposed is made the subject of

an appeal, a report must be made to me immediately, indicating the

probable result.

This circular decree will be published in the next number of “Deutsche

Justiz,” together with an extract from the decree communicated below,

issued by the Prussian Ministerpraesident Goering on 16 July 1935.

As deputy:

[Signed] DR. SCHLEGELBERGER

PARTIAL TRANSLATION OF DOCUMENT NG-1808

PROSECUTION EXHIBIT 557

EXTRACTS FROM THE OFFICIAL FILES IN THE CASE AGAINST LUITPOLD SCHOSSER,

A CATHOLIC PRIEST, SENTENCED ON 19 DECEMBER 1942, UNDER THE LAW AGAINST

INSIDIOUS ATTACKS ON STATE AND PARTY, BY A SPECIAL COURT HEADED BY

DEFENDANT ROTHAUG

National Socialist German Workers Party

Kreisleitung Amberg-Sulzbach (Gau Bayrische Ostmark)

Bayreuth

Daily newspaper of the

district: Amberg-Sulzbacher

Zeitung

Office and Editor’s Office Amberg

Regierungsstrasse 1

Phone No. 6

Amberg, 12 June 1942

Kreis Office

Amberg, Kaiser Wilhelmring 9

Telephones: 346 and 325

Banking accounts:

County Savings Bank Amberg, Account No. 1501

Municipal Savings Bank Amberg, Account No. 150

The Kreisleiter Dr. K./St.

Journal No. 1156/42

(to be quoted in replies)

To the Public Prosecutor at the Special Court, Nuernberg-Fuerth

[Stamp]

Received: 13 June 1942

Prosecutor’s Office

Nuernberg-Fuerth 1c

Subject: Charge against the priest Luitpold Schosser, born at

Burghausen/Lower Bavaria, 28 April 1909, at Vilseck since

27 March 1939

On 17 May 1942 the Polish farm laborer, Martin Strysow, died in

hospital at Vilseck. The priest Schosser announced in church after

the usual Sunday evening May devotion that the transportation to the

cemetery and Last Sacrament of the Pole would take place immediately

afterward. Induced by this announcement, about 50 people, mainly women

and children, participated in the funeral procession and praying

loudly, as usual, rendered last honors to the Pole. A large number of

the population took offense at this incident.

By this action the priest Schosser has malevolently criticised

the national political demands of the National Socialist State.

Furthermore, he has debased the dignity of the German people in an

incredible way and has caused a great number of fellow Germans to

behave in an undignified manner.

Judging from the usual attitude of the priest Schosser it may be

expected that after having been informed of the charges made against

him, he will try to influence possible witnesses. Therefore, I request

his immediate arrest.

Heil Hitler!

[Signed] DR. KOLB

Oberbereichsleiter

[Rank in Nazi Party Leadership Corps]

[Stamp]

National Socialist Workers Party

Kreis Amberg-Sulzbach

[Handwritten]

To the President of the Special Court with the request to issue a

warrant of arrest for an offense against the law against insidious

attacks on State and Party.

Nuernberg, 15 June 1942

[Signed] SCHROEDER

Chief Public Prosecutor

Secret State Police

State Police Office Regensburg

Regensburg, 18 June 1942

[Stamp]

Received: 19 June 1942

Public Prosecutor’s Office

Nuernberg-Fuerth

B. No. 1854/42 II B 1.

With 1 file returned

To the Chief Public Prosecutor

as Chief of the Prosecuting

Authority at the Special Court,

Nuernberg

As I request you to gather from the enclosed reports, the case has

already been dealt with here. The offense committed by Schosser was

handled here in such a way that he was under police arrest from 1–15

June 1942. For that reason I have desisted from carrying out the

warrant of arrest against Schosser for the time being. In case the

warrant of arrest should nevertheless be executed, I request further

information.

BY ORDER:

[handwritten]

[Signed] Alt

[Stamp]

I. Make note of dispatch.

II. With file.

Secret State Police

State Police Office

Regensburg

Received: 24 June 1942

No. 1854/42 B 1

[Handwritten] To the Secret State Police, State Police Office

Regensburg, repeating my request of 15 June 1942.

Local Court

2 July 1942

Weiden (Oberpfalz)

[Stamp]

Nuernberg, 20 June 1942

Chief Public Prosecutor

[Signed] SCHROEDER

Arrest! Very urgent

Copy

1 c Sg 948/42.

Received: 21 August 1942

District Court Nuernberg-Fuerth

Criminal Cases

St.

To the President of the Special Court,

Nuernberg,

With the request to return the files, and to suspend the warrant of

arrest, and order the release of the accused.

Nuernberg, 21 August 1942

The Chief Public Prosecutor

as Chief of the Prosecuting Authority

at the Special Court

BY ORDER:

[Signed] HOFMANN

I. At the request of the Chief Public Prosecutor the warrant of arrest

of the President of the Special Court of 15 June 1942 has been revoked,

article 126 Criminal Procedure.

II. Order for release!

To the office of the Special Court--give order by telephone to

release the prisoner.

III. To the Chief Public Prosecutor--time of release from arrest--13.15

hours.

Nuernberg, 21 August 1942

The President of the Special Court

[Signed] DR. FERBER

Acting President

To II

Telephone conversation: Court Jail Weiden;

Telephone Charges: 3 Reichsmark

21 August 1942

Wi.

Received: 21 August 1942

Public Prosecutor’s Office

Nuernberg-Fuerth

Certified.

Nuernberg, 27 August 1942

Public Prosecution Nuernberg-Fuerth

[Signed] HUEMMER, Chief Clerk

The Registrar

[Stamp]

Chief Public Prosecutor

Nuernberg-Fuerth

Files for cases concerning insidious attacks on State and Party

Sg No. /194

_Verdict_

In the name of the German People

The Special Court for the district of the Nuernberg Court of Appeal

at the Nuernberg-Fuerth District Court rules in the criminal case,

against--on account of--in public session as follows:

[Handwritten]

Schosser, Luitpold, born in Burghausen, 28 April 1909, single, Catholic

priest at Vilseck, at present in detention pending trial is to be

punished by imprisonment of 1 year and 3 months and costs on account

of two compound offenses, namely misusing the pulpit, as well as

[violation of] article 2, paragraph 1 of the law against insidious

attacks on State and Party,[541] committed by attacks against the

National Socialist Reich in the religious-political sphere.

The 3 months of police arrest and of detention pending trial will be

taken into consideration.

[Signed] ROTHAUG

DR. GROS

GROBEN

TRANSLATION OF DOCUMENT NG-770

PROSECUTION EXHIBIT 291

CIRCULAR OF THE REICH MINISTER OF JUSTICE, SIGNED BY DEFENDANT ENGERT,

TO THE ATTORNEYS GENERAL, 12 DECEMBER 1944, REDEFINING LIMITATIONS ON

DIVINE SERVICES FOR PRISONERS[542]

The Reich Minister for Justice

Berlin W 8, 12 December 1944

Wilhelmstrasse 65

To the Attorneys General (except Prague)

Subject: Adjustments in the application of the execution of

sentences and detention custody (administrative ordinance)

of 29 September 1944 “Deutsche Justiz” [German Justice]

page 270.

Copies to the independent institutions, the district court prisons and

other court prisons for early distribution.

There is reason to believe that the regulation under No. 4 of the

Administrative Ordinance of 29 September 1944--“Deutsche Justiz”,

page 270--concerning adjustments due to the war in the application

of penalties and detention custody, is being misinterpreted. The

regulation that divine services for prisoners and persons in custody

will no longer be held is to be interpreted from the context. As the

title already indicates, the measures of the ordinance are due to the

war. The preamble to the ordinance already defines the purpose of the

adjustment of the application of the ordinance due to total war. This

purpose also restricts the application of the regulation under No. 4.

Divine services are only temporarily canceled and only then where they

are incompatible with the demands of total war.

Divine services at the present time are incompatible with the demands

of total war where and insofar as they necessitate time which is

essential to work for the waging of total war. Nor are they compatible

when and where the crowding of prisoners or detainees during divine

service constitutes a danger in itself or mixing the congregation of

the institution’s church or in view of the small number and the age

of the supervisory staff, it represents a danger to the institution’s

security and thereby continuous production.

Insofar, however, as the time needed for the requirements of total

war is not interfered with by the hours of divine services and the

maintenance of the institution’s safety can be guaranteed, divine

services may also be held in future especially at Christmas and other

sacred holidays.

BY ORDER:

[Typed] ENGERT

Certified: [Signed] LORENZ

Clerk

[Stamp] Reich Ministry of Justice

EXTRACTS FROM THE TESTIMONY OF PROSECUTION WITNESS

FATHER LUITPOLD SCHOSSER[543] CONCERNING HIS

ARRESTS AND TRIAL

_DIRECT EXAMINATION_

MR. WOOLEYHAN: Witness, would you please state your full name

and your profession?

WITNESS SCHOSSER: My name is Luitpold Schosser; I am a

Catholic priest.

Q. Father, where is your parish?

A. My present parish is at Wolfseck near Regensburg.

Q. Has that been your parish for some time in the past?

A. That has been my parish for 3 years and 3 months.

Q. Where was your parish before that?

A. Before my trial, my parish was at Vilseck.

Q. Father, where were you born and when?

A. I was born on 28 April 1909 at Bernhausen, in the Holledau [Central

Bavaria].

Q. What education did you have, and where was it?

A. For 4 years I attended grammar school in my own home village

Hadersbach. Then, for 9 years I went to the high school at Straubing.

Then, for 5 years I attended the university at Innsbruck, and for 1

year the Theological Seminary at Regensburg. In 1934 I was consecrated

priest. Then, I was assistant vicar in several places. At the end,

I was at Vilseck. Then my trial started, and after my trial from 1

February 1944 I have been a priest at Wolfseck.

Q. Father, while you were a priest at Vilseck, were you ever arrested

and imprisoned?

A. At Vilseck, I was arrested twice, and at Regensburg, I was arrested

once, because after my arrest I was not allowed to go back to Vilseck.

Q. Would you please state the dates, so far as you remember, of each

time that you were arrested and imprisoned?

A. Yes. For the first time I was arrested on 1 June 1942, and I was

kept in prison for 14 days by the police. That warrant was filled in by

the Gestapo. After I had been imprisoned for 2 weeks, I was released.

In the meantime, a second warrant for my arrest was issued by the

Special Court of Nuernberg, and on 1 July I was arrested again. Then,

until 21 August--that is for 7 weeks, I was in custody pending trial

at Weiden in the district court prison of Weiden. Then, again, I was

released and a few days later another warrant for my arrest was issued

again by the Special Court of Nuernberg. Then, I had been in prison

until 18 December 1943. For the third time I was arrested, that was at

Regensburg--and my arrest was made by the Gestapo.

So, altogether, I was arrested three times; twice at Vilseck and once

at Regensburg.

Q. Father, at any time during any of these three arrests, did the

police ever tell you who had signed the warrant for your arrest?

A. Yes, when I was arrested the second time, the police commissioner of

Vilseck told me that the warrant was issued by Rothaug from the Special

Court of Nuernberg.

Q. After you had been arrested, Father, and imprisoned those three

times that you describe, you also mentioned a trial. Were you ever

indicted and tried before a court?

A. My trial took place on 18 December, that is on 19 December 1942, and

the trial took place before the Special Court of Nuernberg at Amberg.

The trial took place because of a [Heimtuecke] insidious attack, during

a sermon which I had made 15 months before at Vilseck.

Q. Father, you state that you were tried on 19 December 1942, by the

Special Court of Nuernberg, but that the trial took place in Amberg. Is

that correct?

A. Yes, that is correct; it took place at Amberg, at the town hall.

Q. Would you please repeat again, so far as you know, the violation of

law for which you were indicted and tried?

A. Well, the first arrest originated from the burial of a dead Pole

who died at Vilseck and was sent over to the morgue from the hospital

as was customary there with the dead. The dead Pole, as every other

Catholic, was transported from the hospital to the morgue, therefore,

the church had given him the sacrament in the morning. In the morning

of this day he asked for a priest, and he was prepared for death.

During the afternoon, then, he died. In the evening before we had our

evening vespers--that was on a Sunday--the attendant of the morgue came

to see me, and he informed me that I had to order the transport of this

dead Pole from the hospital to the morgue and would have to take over

the arrangements. I asked him whether it was permissible for me to do

that, and he said, “Yes; the Magistrate has ordered that you do it.”

Therefore, I had no further doubts, and I went to the morgue, that is,

to the hospital, and I ordered the transport which was sponsored by the

church.

Before I made my sermon at the evening vespers, as is customary at

every transport of the dead, I communicated to my parish people that

later on a dead Pole would be transported from the hospital to the

morgue, because the people want to know who is the dead, who is in the

coffin in order to be able to know whether they have any obligation

to attend the funeral or not. Of course, as it was a Sunday, there

were quite a number of people in the church, comparatively, and quite

a number of them attended the funeral, because thus they had an

opportunity to go to the cemetery, which was situated outside of our

village.

Now, because of this communicating the fact to the people, I was

charged mainly by the Special Court. They considered it an invitation,

that is to say, that I intentionally invited the population to attend

the transport of the dead Pole. That was the main charge made against

me by the Special Court of Nuernberg.

They said that at this occasion, as the president said during the

trial, I was said to have expressed religious feelings and used them

intentionally in order to sabotage the directives of the State.

Q. Father, may I interrupt, please? You state that at the trial, the

main charges, so far as you know, were this conducting of a funeral

for the Pole and a sermon that you preached the previous year. Is that

correct?

A. Well, the main charge in my trial was the sermon. That was the real

reason for the trial, during the trial, the sermon was not so much

dealt with but rather this whole matter with the Pole was dragged into

the trial. In each detail it was talked about--just about this matter

of having had the Pole transported. I was considered an insidious

priest, and this was told to the public.

* * * * * * *

Q. Now, Father, the sermon that you delivered on the occasion in 1941,

to which the indictment referred, what text was that sermon?

A. Well, the text was the sermon of the seventh Sunday after Pentecost.

It is read every year. It is in Chapter VII of Matthew. “Beware of

false prophets who walk around in the cloak of lambs but who in their

interior are roaring wolves. You will recognize them from their

cloaks.” That was the beginning of my sermon.

Q. Father, was this verse from Matthew the text of the sermon on that

day every year?

A. Every year we use the same text.

Q. Now, Father, of the witnesses that were called against you--I

believe you said there were four or five, which was it?

A. There were four witnesses from Vilseck and the Gestapo official Alt,

but during the trial he didn’t talk at all.

Q. Well, of those four witnesses that did speak at the trial for the

prosecution, how many of them heard your sermon of the preceding year,

on the seventh Sunday after Whitsuntide?

A. Two witnesses had heard my sermon. It was the wife of the

Ortsgruppenleiter and the newspaper distributor Meyer Johann.

Q. What did the newspaper distributor say or testify about your sermon?

A. During the interrogation by the Gestapo official, he declared

that my preaching had been aggressive; he said that my sermon was an

incitement.

Q. Father, you said that during the Gestapo investigation, he said that

your sermon was aggressive and inciting, but that during the trial he

denied that. Is that true?

A. Yes, during the trial he denied that he had said that the sermon

had been an inciting sermon. This expression “Hetzpredigt,” [inciting

sermon] he did not use. That is what he said during the trial.

Q. Describe, Father, the testimony of the other witness that had heard

your sermon; namely, the wife of the mayor and Ortsgruppenleiter.

A. Well, the wife of the Ortsgruppenleiter had only referred, during

the trial, to what she had told the Gestapo official, and the other

witness, Kuffer, brought forward merely personal matters in order to

paint me as an insidious priest.

Q. But this last witness that you speak of, Kuffer, had not heard your

sermon, had he?

A. No, he had not heard my sermon.

Q. But the mayor’s wife had, is that correct?

A. Yes, the wife of the Ortsgruppenleiter attended the sermon and heard

it.

Q. Well, Father, at your trial did the mayor’s wife testify or was the

statement she had given the Gestapo only introduced?

A. No, the wife of the mayor only answered questions put to her by the

presiding judge. She, herself didn’t say much.

Q. During the trial, Father, so far as you remember having observed it,

will you please describe Rothaug’s conduct and words and statements

from the bench.

A. Right after my trial, in the cell of my prison, I took some

stenographic notes concerning the remarks made by the presiding judge,

Dr. Rothaug, and on the strength of those stenographic notes which I

have here on my table, I can make the following statement concerning

the trial. First of all, the presiding judge referred to my education

and there he became very personal right away and charged me with the

fact that my whole theological education was rather backward, and

that it would have been much better if I had studied something other

than theology. He said that I only observed the whole development of

national socialism as a bystander looking from the window. During my

trial, the Hitler Youth passed the town hall, and at that occasion

the presiding judge made the remark, “those down there, the Hitler

Youth, that is the real life.” Later on, in the course of the trial,

the presiding judge very often made ridiculing remarks concerning the

Catholic religion, and made insidious remarks concerning the profession

of priest. Some of these remarks, I can tell you literally, and they

were the following: “You Catholics allege that only Catholics will

reach heaven, all others will be in hell.” That is an assumption which

no Catholic will ever make. Then, he said, and this remark was repeated

again and again, “Not water gives value to man, but rather the blood.”

And, of course, the water he referred to was the Catholic sacrificial

water, or the water on the head--sanctifying water. For the National

Socialist ideology has to be given to the child already with the milk

of his mother; and there it appears my parents had failed to educate me

in this direction. Those were merely personal remarks.

Q. Father, may I interrupt a moment. Are you saying that the presiding

judge, Rothaug, made the remarks, such as you have just described, to

you from the bench, during the trial?

A. Yes, from the bench, during the trial. These remarks, I may say that

after all they were not only meant for me, myself, but for the whole

profession of priesthood.

Q. Father, you have said that in your indictment, the main charge was

one of malicious statements made during that sermon in 1941, but you

also said that during your trial Rothaug said much more about the

business of your giving a funeral service to the Pole. Can you give any

facts to explain why you say that?

A. Yes. Special Court Judge Rothaug dragged two things mainly into

this trial. First of all, the removal of crosses from the schools in

the district of Vilseck, and then this transporting of the dead Pole

from the hospital to the morgue. If I may add something concerning this

matter of transferring the dead Pole; there again I can give you some

more details.

Q. Yes, Father, I would be very interested in what Rothaug said about

your transporting the dead Pole.

A. The whole courtroom was fully occupied. I, as well as the people

attending the trial, was quite astonished especially by Rothaug going

into the details concerning this Pole matter. He came back again and

again on this matter in order to prove to me that I really had made

insidious statements; and that I had had insidious and bad intentions,

and on this occasion Rothaug showed a terrible hatred against the

Polish people.

* * * * * * *

Q. Father, after your trial was concluded, what sentence did you

receive?

A. I was sentenced, on the grounds of insidious attacks, to 15 months

of prison, and 3 months of custody pending trial were counted.

Q. Father, after the ceremony and sermon which you preached on the

seventh Sunday after Whitsunday 1941, how long was it from then until

your trial, approximately?

A. About 15 months.

Q. Then, for 15 months after you preached the sermon for which you were

tried as having made insidious utterances, nothing was done to you by

the way of trial; is that correct?

A. No, during these 15 months nothing happened.

Q. One moment, Father, please. Fifteen months after your sermon, during

which nothing was done, you were tried, and part of the case was the

funeral sermon you conducted for a Pole, is that correct?

A. May I ask you to repeat the question, please?

Q. Father, 15 months after your sermon, during your trial, your conduct

of a funeral for a Pole was a part of the trial, wasn’t it?

A. Yes, during the trial.

Q. Now, Father, when was this funeral for the Pole that you conducted?

A. That was on the third Sunday in the month of May. I think it must be

about 17 May 1942.

Q. In other words, Father, the sermon that you preached, on which the

main count of your indictment was based, was 15 months before your

trial, and the Polish funeral was 2 or 3 months before your trial? Is

that correct?

A. Well, the funeral of the Pole was in May 1942, and the trial took

place in December 1942. That would be about 6 months.

MR. WOOLEYHAN: There is no further direct examination, Your

Honor.

PRESIDING JUDGE MARSHALL: Does any defense counsel desire to

cross-examine this witness?

DR. KOESSL (counsel for defendant Rothaug): I ask to examine

the witness.

THE PRESIDENT: You may proceed.

_CROSS-EXAMINATION_

DR. KOESSL: Witness, for the first time you were arrested on 1

June 1942, is that correct?

A. Yes.

Q. You said before that you made the church sponsored transfer [to the

cemetery] of the Pole, and that you were arrested because of that. Was

this church sponsored transfer of Poles prohibited?

A. It was not prohibited for Poles, but I was charged with only the

publicizing of this fact.

Q. I could not quite get that, unfortunately. May I ask you to repeat

what you were charged with?

A. I was charged with the fact of having publicized this church

sponsored transfer which is usual at Vilseck, and that I made it

public. That was explained as if I had invited and even asked the

population to attend the funeral.

Q. In other words, you were not charged with having transferred this

Pole and sponsored it by the church, but rather, it was the fact that

you had violated the State directives, is that correct?

A. Yes.

Q. The first point was dealt with only by the Gestapo?

A. Yes.

Q. In other words, Rothaug had nothing to do with that?

A. No, he had nothing to do with that.

Q. However, you were charged with other violations of State directives,

were you not? Is that correct?

A. No, that is not correct. The Ortsgruppenleiter Stubenvoll had

informed the Kreisleiter, Dr. Kolb, and he raised the point again

because this sentence of 2 weeks was not enough for him, and that is

the way this matter came to the Special Court in Nuernberg, and then it

went on.

Q. Well, did this matter lead to a trial then?

A. No. As far as I know--

Q. Please go on.

A. As far as I know from my lawyer, this matter was diverted by Berlin,

and that is why the second time, on 21 August, I was released again.

Q. But then there were other denunciations against you?

A. Yes, later on. After I had been released for the first time and when

I was in custody pending trial for the second time, only then was this

sermon brought to the knowledge of the [Nuernberg] Special Court.

Q. It seems that you were also denounced by the Ortsgruppenleiter for

other activities.

A. Well, no, I was not denounced. I was only charged with them and

reprimanded, but they had nothing to do with the court.

Q. Just a little bit slower, please.

A. At Vilseck, I only discharged my general duties as a priest.

Q. But your activities at school were talked about and other activities

which were not compatible with State directives at that time?

A. Well, I have to object to that. That was only the opinion of

Stubenvoll. Only in his opinion were those activities against the

State. I never violated any State directives in that matter. I only

stuck to my church directives.

Q. However, your youth organization and your school activity, what did

they object to in those matters?

A. Well, for instance, as far as the pupils of the vocational school

were concerned, I gathered them for education after the lessons.

The Ortsgruppenleiter Stubenvoll didn’t like that, and then he made

quite bad and mean difficulties for me. He threatened that I would be

charged. Furthermore, I gathered the adult youth every 3 or 4 weeks in

order to have discussions and a little lecture. There again, Stubenvoll

sent informers, in spite of the fact that he had no right whatsoever to

intervene in church matters.

Q. You speak of intervening in church matters. Can you confirm that

as a result of the centuries-old tension between church and state in

Germany, there were penalties for the misuse of the priest’s profession

which were as old and which had been issued centuries ago?

A. I know only the “Pulpit Article,” and that had existed for quite

some time.[544] Otherwise, I don’t know anything.

Q. Well do you know for instance, the Protizio of common law? You don’t

know that?

A. No.

Q. The Protizio.

A. No, I don’t know that.

Q. But, you know that the “Pulpit Article” was issued during Bismarck’s

rule; that is 1871, is that correct?

A. Yes. Even during the trial, Rothaug made a remark about it to me.

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Q. Now, on the strength of that sermon at that time, you gave as a

basis, chapter 7 of the Matthew’s Evangelical?

A. Yes.

Q. Was it the fact that this text was made the basis for this sermon

which was objected to?

A. Well, that could not be objected to because I had no power over

that. I had to take that text.

Q. Is it correct if I assume that, of course, the words which you

joined to that chapter were objected to?

A. Well, yes. The whole sermon, as I said, was explained by the witness

in a way as if I meant by the false prophets the leading personalities

of Germany of that day.

Q. Did you mean them at that time?

A. I spoke in quite a general way, and I left to the people what they

wanted to understand from my sermon.

Q. Well, did you mean the leading personalities? I would like to know

that.

A. I spoke in a quite general way on these matters of ideology, and I

left it to everybody. If I meant somebody then, of course, I meant,

first of all, Rosenberg who actually was the man who was involved with

the National Socialist ideology versus religion, by his book.

Q. In other words, the assumption of the public prosecutor was correct?

A. It was an assumption and they couldn’t prove it.

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Q. Now, witness, you have admitted that the newspaper distributor

Geyer expressly stated that your sermon was very aggressive.

A. Yes, the witness Geyer in the minutes taken by the Gestapo had

testified that, and they had written it down.

Q. Also, the wife of the Ortsgruppenleiter, according to your own

testimony, had testified that in church she had objected to what you

said?

A. Yes.

Q. Was the wife of the Ortsgruppenleiter a woman who went to church

very often?

A. Yes, relatively she went rather often to church. But one gained the

impression--and also the other people who went to church confirmed

this--that she went to church because she wanted to hear everything

that was said in church.

Q. This woman, did she go to church before the time her husband became

an Ortsgruppenleiter?

A. Yes, also during that period already, Frau Stubenvoll went to church

regularly.

Q. And now you assume that this woman suddenly went to church only as

an informer?

A. That was the general opinion in the village; it was not only my

opinion.

Q. You have admitted that when Rothaug questioned this woman he

generally stuck to what she had testified before the Gestapo, that is,

as a line for his questioning.

A. Yes.

Q. Furthermore, you said that he asked leading questions?

A. He submitted it to her in a way that she could only answer yes or

no in a very easy way. That was the impression the public gained. My

family was there partly.

Q. However, this woman had already told all that. How can you say that

Rothaug put leading questions to that woman and told her what she was

to say?

A. Because in her testimony she was rather uncertain.

Q. Why did she suddenly get uncertain in her answers if she had already

told the Gestapo the very same things?

A. Between the questioning by the Gestapo in August and the questioning

during the trial in December there was quite a period of time, and Frau

Stubenvoll didn’t have a good memory of what she had stated at that

time. This impression my defense counsel gained, also.

Q. In other words, the first statements of this woman were apparently

under the impression of your sermons, weren’t they?

A. Well, only what she may have stated to the Gestapo. During the

trial, from her own knowledge, she didn’t speak too much. She only

answered.

Q. Did you ever see a witness who does anything else than answer

questions?

A. Well, the first witness, Stubenvoll--he just spoke and he told

and reported everything he knew against me though he didn’t get any

questions to that effect at all.

Q. But this man probably, on the strength of the Code of Criminal

Procedure was summoned to explain what he knew. Can you remember that?

A. I cannot remember well whether he was summoned to do just that. He

started to speak against me.

Q. Now, you mentioned the fact that Rothaug had alleged that in your

tender youth your parents had forgotten to give you the education of a

National Socialist.

A. At that time I was much older, but indirectly this came as a hint

concerning my parents, and my brother confirmed that to me and the

young lady who attended the trial, that he even hinted at my parents

just when he spoke of education, of education from the tender youth

onward.

* * * * * * *

Q. Witness, the entire question of the burial of the Pole was mentioned

only because, apparently, it was contained in the files, and there it

was used as further evidence of your attitude of opposition to the

State?

A. These files, however, had nothing to do with the actual matter

charged in the trial.

Q. However, it was further evidence of your entire attitude toward the

State at that time?

A. Yes, that is how the presiding judge interpreted it and also

expressed it.

Q. How long did the whole trial take?

A. From about 8 o’clock until 1:30 in the afternoon.

DR. KOESSL: I have no further questions. Thank you.

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EXAMINATION BY THE TRIBUNAL

PRESIDING JUDGE MARSHALL: I understand that your testimony now

is that the sermon referred to in your testimony was preached on the

third Sunday in July of the year 1941. Is that correct?

WITNESS SCHOSSER: I can now tell you the exact date. It was 20

July 1941.

Q. I understand you to say that from the time of the preaching of that

sermon a period of 15 months elapsed during which nothing happened. Is

that correct?

A. Fifteen months passed until the trial. About a year later there was

the denunciation because of this transfer of the Pole.

Q. About a year elapsed, then, before you were arrested, and then 3 or

4 months after that until the trial took place, is that correct?

A. Yes, that is how it was.

PRESIDING JUDGE MARSHALL: Very well.

MR. WOOLEYHAN: May the witness be excused, Your Honor?

PRESIDING JUDGE MARSHALL: The witness may be excused.

EXTRACTS FROM THE TESTIMONY OF DEFENDANT ROTHAUG

CONCERNING THE CASE OF FATHER LUITPOLD

SCHOSSER[545]

_DIRECT EXAMINATION_

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DR. KOESSL (counsel for defendant Rothaug): I want to talk

to you about the Schosser case, S-c-h-o-s-s-e-r. The Schosser case

is mentioned in the English transcript on page 1743 by the witness

Ferber;[546] and in the English transcript on page 3021 through 3066

by the witness Schosser. Witness, in this case the main charge against

you is that you displayed special initiative. In addition to that the

charge is made repeatedly that Schosser was prosecuted because he

buried a Pole. Between what proceedings does one have to distinguish

when the name Schosser is mentioned?

DEFENDANT ROTHAUG: This is a case of two proceedings, in fact.

The first case had to do with the funeral of a Pole, but I want to

state right now that naturally the funeral itself was not considered

a punishable offense. That is the more recent case. Then, another

proceeding is of importance here which has to do with the sermon on a

Sunday in church. That case, the first case, in connection with the

funeral of a Pole did not lead to a main trial or a sentence, but this

sermon on the Sunday did. Those are the first things between which one

has to distinguish, because in this connection the charge is made that

I had started or initiated the second case after I had failed with

the first one; and my aim is now to prove to the Court by submitting

evidence, submitting documents, that I was not the initiator in this

case, and in general, I object against that charge.

Q. Did you also deal with the first case that you find in the file

before you? Look at page 6 of the file attached to the main file. It is

the case SG-948, from 1942.

A. There are two cases, and it would probably be helpful to mention

the file designations to avoid confusion. The first case--the case of

the funeral of the Pole, if you want to call it that--has the file

designation 1-C SG 948, from the year 1942.

Q. What was the cause for that case?

A. That case was initiated on the basis of a denunciation which the

Kreisleiter of Amberg on 12 June 1942 sent to the public prosecutor

at the Special Court Nuernberg-Fuerth. In this report it is set forth

that, by the behavior of the accused Schosser in church, particularly

by making an announcement about the funeral, and by guiding people to

the cemetery, the German population to a far-reaching extent was caused

to attend the funeral; and that that behavior was considered an offense

against the measures which were prevailing at the time concerning the

separation between Germans and Polish people.

Q. What did the senior public prosecutor do?

A. In this connection it may be necessary to point out that there was

a definite regulation which I find in the official gazette for the

diocese at Regensburg, published by the bishop’s office, Regensburg.

In this publication, periodical, is a reprint of a decree, an official

decree, concerning the spiritual care of civilian workers of Polish

nationality employed in Germany. The bishop’s office reprints that

decree by the Reich Defense Commissioner in the defense districts 7

and 13. Our area was in that district and this was published for the

information of the priests. The decree deals in detail with everything

that had to be done. Figure 5 is of importance. It says that the

interment of Polish civilian workers, male or female, can be taken care

of by German priests. Participation of the German population has to be

reduced to the absolutely necessary minimum. No sermon may be held.

That decree contains eight sections. I do not know if the remainder

is interesting to the Tribunal. I could just refer to them if it is

desired.

Q. If the Court is interested, will you please refer to them.

PRESIDING JUDGE BRAND: You may.

DEFENDANT ROTHAUG: First, on figure 1, it is stated that

participation of civilian workers of Polish nationality in the church

services of the German population is prohibited. Then it is stipulated

that church services for Polish workers, male or female, have to

be conducted separately. Where there aren’t enough Poles living,

individual spiritual care is permitted, but under all circumstances it

should be avoided that Poles and Germans should be together in the same

room for that purpose. Services should only be conducted in the German

or the Latin language. Publication of newspapers, periodicals, or

Sunday magazines in the Polish language is prohibited. The priests had

to restrict themselves just to the spiritual care of the Polish people.

It ends with the words as follows: It is expected that the German

priests should always be conscious of being Germans and of the duties

arising from that fact and that offenses will be punishable.

DR. KOESSL: Was it made clear whether Schosser knew anything

about that regulation?

DEFENDANT ROTHAUG: That, at first, could not be seen from the

report received, but after he was interrogated, he referred to the fact

that he had not known anything about all these circumstances and that

that was what had got him into this trouble.

Q. Now, we want to find out what happened after that report was made.

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