Now, you thought you found it, and he thought you did not?--Not that I

recollect.

Do not you know that Mr. Morley has been rather doubtful as to the

results of these experiments?--No. Mr. Morley stated differently in his

own examination.

In his examination here?--Yes; if you refer to it, except in one case,

and that is the explanation I give of it.

Re-examined by Mr. SERJEANT SHEE--The Attorney-General directed your

attention to your report on one of these cases that the hands were rigid

and the feet incurved. In reports of this kind do you state only

extraordinary appearances, or ordinary appearances as well?--Ordinary

appearances also. It is a statement of a fact without anything more.

* * * * *

[Sidenote: W. Herepath]

Mr. WILLIAM HEREPATH, examined by Mr. GROVE--I am Professor of Chemistry

and Toxicologist at the Bristol Medical School. I have been occupied in

chemistry forty years and in toxicology probably thirty. I have

experimented on the poison of strychnia. I have examined the contents of

the stomach of a patient who died from strychnia. I discovered the

strychnia in the contents of the stomach three days after death. I have

experimented upon eight, nine, or ten animals. In the case of a cat, to

which I gave one grain of strychnia in solid form, I could not get the

animal to take it voluntarily, and I left it in meat at night. I

found the animal dead next morning. The body was dreadfully

contorted--extremely rigid, the fore limbs extended, the head turned

round to the side, the eyes protruding and staring, the iris expanded so

as to be almost invisible. I found in the urine which had been ejected

strychnia, and also in the stomach. I gave the same quantity of

strychnia to another cat. It remained very quiet for fifteen or sixteen

minutes, with but few symptoms until thirty-five minutes. It merely

seemed a little restless with its eyes, the breathing a little

quickened, and at thirty-five minutes it had a terrible spasm, the four

extremities and the head being drawn together. I watched it for three

hours more. After this it had a second spasm. A frothing saliva was

dripping from its mouth, and it forcibly ejected its urine. It had

another spasm a few minutes after, when I thought the animal would die.

It soon recovered itself, and then remained quiet, with the exception of

a trembling all over. The slightest breath of air would affect it. It

continued in this state for some time longer. During this three hours

and a half, or nearly so, the animal was in a peculiar state. Touching

it appeared to electrify it all through, even blowing upon it produced

the same effect. Touching the basket, the slightest thing that could

affect the animal, produced a sort of electric jump. I left it then,

thinking it would recover, but in the morning I found it dead, in the

same indurated and contracted condition in which the former animal was

found. About thirty-six hours afterwards, by chemical examination, I

found strychnia in the urine, the stomach, and upper intestines, in the

liver, and in the blood of the heart. In my search for strychnia I took

extraordinary means to get rid of the organic matter.

In all cases which you have seen where strychnia has been taken has the

examination been successful?--Not only strychnia, but nux vomica, has

been extracted. In one case the animal had been buried two months. I

have detected strychnia in cases where it has been mixed purposely with

putrid remains.

Are you of opinion, as a chemist, that where strychnia has been taken in

a sufficient dose to poison, it can be detected, and ought to be

detected?--Yes, up to the time the body is decomposed completely. Even

where there is putrefaction--where the body has become a dry powder. I

am of opinion that strychnia ought to have been detected if it had

existed in the jar containing the stomach, even in the state it then

was.

Cross-examined by the ATTORNEY-GENERAL--Until lately my experiments for

the purpose of finding strychnia have been principally in the stomach.

In two cases I found it in the tissues of the animals. One was the

second cat, the other a dog to which I gave the large dose of one grain.

Judging from reports in newspapers, I have said in conversation that

strychnia had been given, and that “If it was there, Professor Taylor

ought to have found it.”

[Sidenote: W. Herepath]

Re-examined by Mr. GROVE--What is the smallest quantity you have

detected in the tissues of the stomach?--I am satisfied that you could

discover the fifty-thousandth part of a grain that is unmixed with

organic matter. I dissolved the tenth part of a grain in a gallon of

water, that is 1 in 70,000. I can take the tenth part of a drop of the

water and demonstrate the presence of strychnia.

What is the smallest portion of strychnia when mixed with organic matter

you can detect?--I took about an eighth part of the liver of a dog, and

from that I had enough to make four distinct experiments with the four

tests.

So that you experimented on a thirty-second part of the liver?--Yes.

* * * * *

[Sidenote: J. E. D. Rogers]

Mr. JULIAN EDWARD DISBROWE ROGERS, examined by Mr. GRAY--I have been

sixteen years Professor of Chemistry at St. George’s School of Medicine,

in London. I made an experiment with one dog with a view of extracting

strychnia from the body. I gave it two grains of pure strychnia between

two pieces of meat. Three days after it was dead I removed the stomach

and its contents, and took some of the blood. I analysed the blood ten

days after its removal from the body, when it was putrid, and found

strychnia by the colour tests. About a month or five weeks afterwards I

analysed the stomach and its contents, and strychnia was separated in a

large quantity. Having heard the evidence as to the stomach and its

contents in this case being put in a jar and sent to London, in my

judgment strychnia, if it had been administered, must have been found in

the contents of the stomach.

Cross-examined by the ATTORNEY-GENERAL--I have only made one experiment

with strychnia on this dog.

Do you think it would make any difference if the contents were lost?--If

there were no contents spread over the intestines, then that would make

a difference. If they had been spilt and shaken, then it would make no

difference.

But, supposing they were not there?--There would be the washings of the

stomach. If the stomach was sent me with no contents, I would wash the

stomach and proceed with that.

If you had tried on the tissues of the deceased’s body I suppose you

would have been able to ascertain whether there had been any

strychnia?--That is my opinion.

So that the time that has elapsed since Cook died would not matter. If

you had an opportunity to operate on it, you would have found the

strychnia?--If it had been there, I feel satisfied I should find it.

LORD CAMPBELL--Do you mean then or now?--I do not see that the time

would prevent it.

* * * * *

[Sidenote: H. Letheby]

Dr. HENRY LETHEBY, examined by Mr. KENEALY--I am a Bachelor of Chemistry

and Professor of Medicine in the London Hospital; also a medical officer

of health to the city of London. I have for a considerable time studied

poisons. I believe in every case of this kind tried in this Court during

the last fourteen years I have been engaged on behalf of the Crown. I

have been present during the examination of the medical witnesses at

this trial and heard them describe certain symptoms attending the death

of Mr. Cook. I have seen many deaths by strychnia in the lower animals.

I have seen several cases of nux vomica in the human subject, one of

which was fatal. The symptoms in the animals do not accord with the

symptoms in this case. In the first place, I have never known such a

long interval between the administration of the poison and the coming on

of the symptoms. The longest interval has been three-quarters of an

hour, and then the poison was given in a form not easy of solution, and

when the stomach was full. I have seen the symptoms begin in five

minutes after the poison was administered. A quarter of an hour would be

the average. Another reason is that in all the animals I have seen, and

the human subject also, when under strychnia, the system has been so

irritable that the very slightest excitement, as an effort to move, a

slight touch, a noise, or a breath of air, will set them off in

convulsions. I do not think it at all probable that a person to whom a

dose of strychnia had been given could rise out of bed and ring a bell

violently. Any movement at all would excite the nervous system, and

there would be spasms. It is not likely a person in that state of

nervous irritation could bear to have his neck rubbed. Where poisoning

by strychnia does not end fatally, the paroxysm is succeeded by other

paroxysms, which gradually shade themselves off. They generally become

less and less, over a period of some hours. My experience agrees with

Dr. Christison, that it would last over a period of sixteen or eighteen

hours before the man gets better. I do not hesitate to say that

strychnia is of all poisons the most easy of detection. I have detected

it in the stomach, in the blood, and in the tissues of animals in

numerous instances. The longest period after death that I have examined

a body has been one month. The animal was then in a state of

decomposition, and I succeeded in detecting very minute portions of the

strychnia. When the strychnia is pure it can be detected in a very small

portion of a part, at least the twentieth part of a grain. When mixed up

with other matter it is a little more difficult. I can detect the tenth

part of a grain in a pint of any liquid that you put before me, whether

the liquid was pure or putrefied.

You have succeeded in detecting it in animals which have been killed a

month, and were in a state of decomposition. What is the dose you have

given them?--I gave the animal, a rabbit, originally half a grain, which

killed it, and I have the strychnia here within a fraction of what I

gave. I lost about a tenth part of a grain in the course of the

investigation.

[Sidenote: H. Letheby]

Supposing a person had taken strychnia eight or ten days before, and

that he died of strychnia poison, should you be able positively to say

that you could detect it?--I do say so positively. I have never failed.

In the post-mortem examinations I have always found the right side of

the heart full of blood. The reason for that is that the death takes

place by the fixing of the muscles of the chest in spasm. In my opinion

this is invariably so. At that time the blood is unable to pass through

the lungs, and the heart cannot relieve itself of the blood that is

flowing into it. It therefore becomes gorged. I have also observed that

the lungs are congested, filled with blood.

Do you agree in the opinion of Dr. Taylor that where strychnia is

administered as a sort of pill or bolus it kills from about six to

eleven minutes?--It may do so. I do not say it would always. I agree

with him that the jaws are spasmodically closed, and also that the

slightest noise reproduces another convulsive paroxysm. I do not agree

with Dr. Taylor that the colouring tests for the discovery of strychnia

are fallacious. They always succeeded with me.

Dr. Taylor has given as a reason for the non-finding of the strychnia

that it is absorbed into the blood and becomes changed?--I agree with

its absorption, but I do not agree with its being changed.

Have you turned your attention to the theory that strychnia is

decomposed after the poisoning?--I have examined the tissues of the body

and I have found it; and my opinion is that it is not changed so as not

to be discoverable.

Supposing the contents were put into a jar and jumbled up with the

intestines and a portion of the stomach, would that prevent the

discovery of strychnia?--It would not.

Supposing that all the contents of the stomach were lost, ought the

mucous membrane, in the ordinary course of things, to exhibit traces of

strychnia?--I think so.

I have also studied the poison of antimony.

Supposing a quantity of antimony were placed in some brandy and water,

and it was drunk off at a sudden gulp, would the immediate effect of

that be to burn the throat, or anything of that kind?--No. Not in the

form of tartar emetic.

[Sidenote: H. Letheby]

Cross-examined by the ATTORNEY-GENERAL--I am neither a member of the

College of Physicians nor of the College of Surgeons. I do not now carry

on business in the medical line, but have done so in general practice

for not more than two or three years. I have destroyed about fifty

animals by strychnia, some within the last two months. I have never

given more than a grain. In recent cases I have always administered the

poison in a solid form--sometimes made into a pill with bread, and at

other times put on the tongue of the animal. In one case I gave it under

very disadvantageous circumstances; the dog had had a very hearty meal,

and it was kneaded up into a hard mass with some bread, and it took

three-quarters of an hour before the action came on. There was one other

case which took about half an hour, but the poison, half a grain, was

not given in sufficient quantity. We gave it another dose, which acted

in about ten minutes.

Dr. Nunneley describes the symptoms--first, a desire to be still, then a

difficulty in breathing, a slobbering of the mouth, twitching of the

ears, trembling of the muscles, and, after that, convulsions; did you

observe all these?--I cannot say all of them in that order. There is an

excitement manifested in the animal, an indisposition to touch, and

trembling on being touched.

I am speaking of the symptoms before the convulsions. The touching, did

that occasion a tremulous action of the muscles?--Yes, I have noticed

that.

Have they come on in regular order?--No, I think not. There are some

little variations.

After the convulsions have once commenced, is there an interval?--Yes. A

breath, a sound, or a touch will cause a recurrence of the convulsive

symptoms after they have been seized. This does not apply where the

animal dies in the first paroxysm, and I have known many cases where an

animal has so died.

You mentioned a distinctive feature in this case of Cook. You were

surprised at his manifesting so much power as to be able to sit up in

bed and ring the bell. Are you aware that that was at the commencement,

before any of the convulsive symptoms had set in?--Yes, I apprehend that

was at the onset or beginning of the paroxysm.

Do you know that he sat up in bed and rang the bell, and it was not till

Palmer had been and had gone back and brought the pills that the

convulsions came on?--Yes, I do; and I have noticed in animals that the

mere touch sends them into convulsions, and they show an indisposition

to move.

In the case of the lady who died near Romsey, did you hear what the maid

said, that she discovered, when her mistress’ bell rang violently, that

she had got out of bed and was sitting on the floor?--It struck me as

inconsistent with what I have seen. I have no doubt that was a death

from strychnia.

If that evidence be true, and it is a fact that she got up and rang her

bell, does not that shake your faith?--No, it does not. You must compare

it with what I have seen. Both are irreconcilable with what I have seen.

[Sidenote: H. Letheby]

Speaking of the Tuesday night, with the exception of the ringing of the

bell, and that in this case it was an hour or an hour and a half after

the supposed administration of the poison, can you point to anything to

distinguish the symptoms and death of Mr. Cook from death by tetanus of

strychnia?--No, I cannot. It is inconsistent with what I have seen, but

it is not inconsistent with what I have heard in the case of Mrs. Smyth.

Is not one of the symptoms hard breathing?--It is a panting respiration.

It is excitement of the breathing rather than difficulty. It is in the

convulsions that there is a difficulty of breathing. If a man were to

breathe hardly it is a position naturally assumed for him to sit up.

Until the convulsion of the muscles comes on there is nothing to prevent

the patient sitting up.

If I understand you, if I except the delay and the fact of his sitting

up in bed and crying for help on the Tuesday, is there anything to

distinguish the convulsions under which this man suffered and died from

the convulsions of tetanus of strychnia?--It is not perfectly consistent

with strychnia, because I say that the account which is given of Mrs.

Smyth is what I cannot reconcile with what I have before observed.

With regard to the abrupt termination instead of the gradual

subsidence?--I have observed the gradual subsidence in man as well as in

animals.

In the case of the man--what dose had he taken?--Nearly a grain and a

half.

This is a strongish dose?--Yes.

You might expect a recurrence of the paroxysm?--Certainly. The

subsidence will not depend on the strength of the dose; it will depend

on whether the individual is to recover or not. I have seen four or five

instances of recoveries.

Is it not generally known that the effect of strychnia is very varied in

different individuals?--No, I do not think so. There would be a little

variation in time, but in the main features of the case there is no

variation.

Do not you find this difference, that from the same dose in the same

species you get no paroxysm, or you get a series of paroxysms ending in

death?--Yes, that is true; but the attacks are the same for all that.

The symptoms are the same.

What do you say about the Sunday night fit?--I was disposed to think it

was a fit. I cannot tell you what it was; I have formed no opinion.

What do you ascribe Mr. Cook’s death to?--It is irreconcilable with

everything I am acquainted with.

By LORD CAMPBELL--Is it reconcilable with any known disease which you

have ever seen or heard of?--No, my lord.

[Sidenote: H. Letheby]

Re-examined by Mr. SERJEANT SHEE--Do you mean to say it could not be the

result of any variety of convulsions, however violent, though not

classed under a particular description of convulsion?--We are learning

new facts every day, and I do not conceive it to be impossible that some

peculiarity of the spinal cord, unrecognisable except the examination

be made immediately after death, may produce symptoms like these.

When you say it is irreconcilable with anything you have heard of, do

you include anything you have heard of strychnia poison as well as

anything else?--Certainly I do.

Is the vomiting of the pills just before death inconsistent with what

you have known and observed of strychnia poison?--It is not consistent

with anything I have observed.

Have you ascertained whether, if you touch an animal which is beginning

those minor premonitory symptoms, but which as yet has had no paroxysms,

this brings the paroxysms on?--Yes.

Was not the Romsey case exceptional from the manner in which the

strychnia was administered and the quantity of the dose?--Yes, it was.

It is quite consistent with all I am saying that the ringing of the bell

by the lady the moment she felt anything of uneasiness would produce the

paroxysm which ultimately was observed. In my judgment, it is not safe

to argue from the symptoms of a case in which the paroxysm took place

only a few moments after the ingestion of the poison, and it was in a

fluid state, to what may be the probabilities in another case.

* * * * *

[Sidenote: R. E. Gay]

Mr. ROBERT EDWARD GAY, examined by Mr. SERJEANT SHEE--I am a member of

the Royal College of Surgeons. In 1855 I attended a person named Foster

suffering under tetanus. He had an inflammatory sore throat, muscular

pains in the neck and the upper portion of the spinal vertebræ. He was

feverish, and had the usual symptoms attending catarrh. On about the

fourth day the muscular pains extended to the face. A difficulty of

swallowing came on, the pains in the muscles covering the spinal

vertebræ and in those of the lower jaw increased. In the evening of that

day the jaw became completely locked; the pain came on in the muscles of

the bowels, the same in the legs and the arms. He became very much

convulsed throughout the entire muscular system. He had frequent and

violent convulsions of the arms and hands, and afterwards of the legs.

The difficulty of swallowing increased up to the ninth or tenth day. Not

a particle of food, either solid or liquid, could be taken or introduced

to the mouth. An attempt to swallow the smallest portion brought on the

most violent convulsions. The convulsions were so strong throughout the

whole system that I could compare him to nothing more than a piece of

warped board in shape. The head was drawn back, the abdomen was forced

forward, and the legs were frequently drawn upwards and backwards. The

attempt of feeding with the spoon, the opening of the window, or placing

the fingers on the pulse frequently brought on violent convulsions. He

complained of great hunger. He was able to speak. He repeatedly cried

out he was very hungry, what would he do if he could not eat? and he was

kept alive till the fourteenth day by injections of a nutritive

character. He screamed during these convulsions, and the noises he made

were more like those of a dying man. About the twelfth day he became

insensible. The convulsions, although very weak, continued till the

fourteenth day, when he died. He was by business an omnibus conductor.

He had been ill some few days--it might be a week. He had no other hurt

or injury to his person of any kind which would account for these

symptoms. His body was not examined after death.

By LORD CAMPBELL--What do you call the disease?--I call it inflammatory

sore throat from cold and exposure to the weather. The symptoms became

tetanic in consequence of an extremely nervous and anxious disposition.

He had a very large family, and was a very hard-working man. I did not

hear the evidence of the witnesses who described the symptoms of Mr.

Cook.

Cross-examined by the ATTORNEY-GENERAL--That is what you call idiopathic

tetanus?--Yes, decidedly so. I have had a vast number of cases of

inflammatory sore throats and a great many anxious, nervous patients.

That is the only case I have ever seen of idiopathic tetanus.

If I rightly apprehend your history of the symptoms, the disease was

altogether progressive in its character, and, although there was an

occasional cessation of the more painful symptoms, there never was a

full cessation of the symptoms?--He was not suffering from tetanic

affection. There was a twitching of the muscles going on, but there was

not that violent convulsion. The lockjaw was the first of the more

aggravated symptoms that presented itself, the muscular spasms about the

trunk of the body progressing onwards to the extremities. He was

conscious till the tenth day, when insensibility supervened while the

convulsions were upon him. I consider the brain had been affected and

congestion had taken place, and that produced insensibility.

After that was there some diminution in the severity of the

convulsions?--Very great diminution, but they still continued.

Would that be likely to take place from the constant recurrence of the

convulsions?--From the constant recurrence of the convulsions the brain

would be congested.

You would expect to find a difference in that respect in a case where a

man died very early in such a disease, and where it was spread over a

longer period?--That would depend greatly on the violence of the

convulsions.

By LORD CAMPBELL--And the repetition?--And the repetition.

The Court then adjourned.

Ninth Day, Friday, 23rd May, 1856.

The Court met at ten o’clock.

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