CHAPTER XII

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PLATO, AND THE OTHER COMPANIONS OF SOKRATES.

PLATO,

AND THE

OTHER COMPANIONS OF SOKRATES.

BY

GEORGE GROTE,

AUTHOR OF THE 'HISTORY OF GREECE'.

_A NEW EDITION._

IN FOUR VOLUMES.

VOL. II.

LONDON:

JOHN MURRAY, ALBEMARLE STREET.

1888.

_The right of Translation is reserved._

CONTENTS.

CHAPTER XII.

ALKIBIADES I. AND II.

Situation supposed in the dialogue. Persons--Sokrates and

Alkibiades 1

Exorbitant hopes and political ambition of Alkibiades 2

Questions put by Sokrates, in reference to Alkibiades in

his intended function as adviser of the Athenians. What does he

intend to advise them upon? What has he learnt, and what does he

know? _ib._

Alkibiades intends to advise the Athenians on questions of

war and peace. Questions of Sokrates thereupon. We must fight those

whom it is better to fight--to what standard does better refer? To

just and unjust 3

How, or from whom, has Alkibiades learnt to discern or

distinguish Just and Unjust? He never learnt it from any one; he

always knew it, even as a boy 4

Answer amended. Alkibiades learnt it from the multitude, as

he learnt to speak Greek.--The multitude cannot teach just and

unjust, for they are at variance among themselves about it.

Alkibiades is going to advise the Athenians about what he does not

know himself 5

Answer farther amended. The Athenians do not generally

debate about just or unjust--which they consider plain to every

one--but about expedient and inexpedient, which are not coincident with

just and unjust. But neither does Alkibiades know the expedient. He

asks Sokrates to explain. Sokrates declines: he can do nothing but

question 6

Comment on the preceding--Sokratic method--the respondent

makes the discoveries for himself _ib._

Alkibiades is brought to admit that whatever is just, is

good, honourable, expedient: and that whoever acts honourably, both

does well, and procures for himself happiness thereby. Equivocal

reasoning of Sokrates 7

Humiliation of Alkibiades. Other Athenian statesmen are

equally ignorant. But the real opponents, against whom Alkibiades is

to measure himself, are, the kings of Sparta and Persia. Eulogistic

description of those kings. To match them, Alkibiades must make

himself as good as possible 8

But good--for what end, and under what circumstances?

Abundant illustrative examples 9

Alkibiades, puzzled and humiliated, confesses his

ignorance. Encouragement given by Sokrates. It is an advantage to

make such discovery in youth 10

Platonic Dialectic--its actual effect--its anticipated

effect--applicable to the season of youth 11

Know Thyself--Delphian maxim--its urgent importance--What

is myself? My mind is myself _ib._

I cannot know myself, except by looking into another

mind. Self-knowledge is temperance. Temperance and Justice are the

conditions both of happiness and of freedom 11

Alkibiades feels himself unworthy to be free, and declares

that he will never quit Sokrates 12

Second Alkibiades--situation supposed _ib._

Danger of mistake in praying to the Gods for gifts which

may prove mischievous. Most men are unwise. Unwise is the generic

word: madmen, a particular variety under it _ib._

Relation between a generic term, and the specific terms

comprehended under it, was not then familiar 13

Frequent cases, in which men pray for supposed benefits,

and find that when obtained, they are misfortunes. Every one fancies

that he knows what is beneficial: mischiefs of ignorance 14

Mistake in predications about ignorance generally. We must

discriminate. Ignorance of _what?_ Ignorance of good, is always

mischievous: ignorance of other things, not always _ib._

Wise public counsellors are few. Upon what ground do we

call these few wise? Not because they possess merely special arts or

accomplishments, but because they know besides, upon what occasions

and under what limits each of these accomplishments ought to be used 15

Special accomplishments, without the knowledge of the good

or profitable, are oftener hurtful than beneficial 16

It is unsafe for Alkibiades to proceed with his sacrifice,

until he has learnt what is the proper language to address to the

Gods. He renounces his sacrifice, and throws himself upon the counsel

of Sokrates _ib._

Different critical opinions respecting these two dialogues 17

Grounds for disallowing them--less strong against the

Second than against the First 18

The supposed grounds for disallowance are in reality only

marks of inferiority _ib._

The two dialogues may probably be among Plato's earlier

compositions 20

Analogy with various dialogues in the Xenophontic

Memorabilia--Purpose of Sokrates to humble presumptuous young men 21

Fitness of the name and character of Alkibiades for

idealising this feature in Sokrates _ib._

Plato's manner of replying to the accusers of Sokrates.

Magical influence ascribed to the conversation of Sokrates 22

The purpose proclaimed by Sokrates in the Apology is

followed out in Alkibiades I. Warfare against the false persuasion of

knowledge 24

Difficulties multiplied for the purpose of bringing

Alkibiades to a conviction of his own ignorance 25

Sokrates furnishes no means of solving these difficulties.

He exhorts to Justice and Virtue--but these are acknowledged

Incognita 26

Prolixity of Alkibiadês I.--Extreme multiplication of

illustrative examples--How explained _ib._

Alkibiadês II. leaves its problem avowedly undetermined 27

Sokrates commends the practice of praying to the Gods for

favours undefined--his views about the semi-regular, semi-irregular

agency of the Gods--he prays to them for premonitory warnings 28

Comparison of Alkibiadês II. with the Xenophontic

Memorabilia, especially the conversation of Sokrates with Euthydemus.

Sokrates not always consistent with himself 29

Remarkable doctrine of Alkibiadês II.--that knowledge is

not always Good. The knowledge of Good itself is indispensable:

without that, the knowledge of other things is more hurtful than

beneficial _ib._

Knowledge of Good--appears postulated and divined, in many

of the Platonic dialogues, under different titles 31

The Good--the Profitable--what is it?--How are we to know

it? Plato leaves this undetermined _ib._

CHAPTER XIII.

HIPPIAS MAJOR--HIPPIAS MINOR.

Hippias Major--situation supposed--character of the

dialogue. Sarcasm and mockery against Hippias 33

Real debate between the historical Sokrates and Hippias in

the Xenophontic Memorabilia--subject of that debate 34

Opening of the Hippias Major**--Hippias describes the

successful circuit which he had made through Greece, and the renown

as well as the gain acquired by his lectures 35

Hippias had met with no success at Sparta. Why the Spartans

did not admit his instructions--their law forbids _ib._

Question, What is law? The law-makers always aim at the

Profitable, but sometimes fail to attain it. When they fail, they

fail to attain law. The lawful is the Profitable: the Unprofitable is

also unlawful 36

Comparison of the argument of the Platonic Sokrates with

that of the Xenophontic Sokrates 37

The Just or Good is the beneficial or profitable. This is

the only explanation which Plato ever gives and to this he does not

always adhere 38

Lectures of Hippias at Sparta not upon geometry, or

astronomy, &c., but upon the question--What pursuits are

beautiful, fine, and honourable for youth? 39

Question put by Sokrates, in the name of a friend in the

background, who has just been puzzling him with it--What is the

Beautiful? _ib._

Hippias thinks the question easy to answer 40

Justice, Wisdom, Beauty must each be something. What is

Beauty, or the Beautiful? _ib._

Hippias does not understand the question. He answers by

indicating one particularly beautiful object _ib._

Cross-questioning by Sokrates--Other things also are

beautiful; but each thing is beautiful only by comparison, or under

some particular circumstances--it is sometimes beautiful, sometimes

not beautiful 41

Second answer of Hippias--_ Gold_, is that by the

presence of which all things become beautiful--scrutiny applied to

the answer. Complaint by Hippias about vulgar analogies _ib._

Third answer of Hippias--questions upon it--proof given

that it fails of universal application 42

Farther answers, suggested by Sokrates himself--1. The

Suitable or Becoming--objections thereunto--it is rejected 43

2. The useful or profitable--objections--it will not hold 44

3. The Beautiful is a variety of the Pleasurable--that

which is received through the eye and the ear 45

Objections to this last--What property is there common to

both sight and hearing, which confers upon the pleasures of these two

senses the exclusive privilege of being beautiful? _ib._

Answer--There is, belonging to each and to both in common,

the property of being innocuous and profitable pleasures--upon this

ground they are called beautiful 46

This will not hold--the Profitable is the cause of Good,

and is therefore different from Good--to say that the beautiful is

the Profitable, is to say that it is different from Good but this has

been already declared inadmissible _ib._

Remarks upon the Dialogue--the explanations ascribed to

Hippias are special conspicuous examples: those ascribed to Sokrates

are attempts to assign some general concept 47

Analogy between the explanations here ascribed to

Sokrates, and those given by the Xenophontic Sokrates in the

Memorabilia 49

Concluding thrust exchanged between Hippias and Sokrates 51

Rhetoric against Dialectic 52

Men who dealt with real life, contrasted with the

speculative and analytical philosophers _ib._

Concrete Aggregates--abstract or logical Aggregates.

Distinct aptitudes required by Aristotle for the Dialectician 53

Antithesis of Absolute and Relative, here brought into

debate by Plato, in regard to the Idea of Beauty 54

Hippias Minor--characters and situation supposed 55

Hippias has just delivered a lecture, in which he extols

Achilles as better than Odysseus--the veracious and straightforward

hero better than the mendacious and crafty 56

This is contested by Sokrates. The veracious man and the

mendacious man are one and the same--the only man who can answer

truly if he chooses, is he who can also answer falsely if he chooses,

_i. e._ the knowing man--the ignorant man cannot make sure of

doing either the one or the other 57

Analogy of special arts--it is only the arithmetician who

can speak falsely on a question of arithmetic when he chooses

_ib._

View of Sokrates respecting Achilles in the Iliad. He

thinks that Achilles speaks falsehood cleverly. Hippias maintains

that if Achilles ever speaks falsehood, it is with an innocent

purpose, whereas Odysseus does the like with fraudulent purpose 58

Issue here taken--Sokrates contends that those who hurt,

or cheat, or lie wilfully, are better than those who do the like

unwillingly--he entreats Hippias to enlighten him and answer his

questions _ib._

Questions of Sokrates--multiplied analogies of the special

arts. The unskilful artist, who runs, wrestles, or sings badly,

whether he will or not, is worse than the skilful, who can sing well

when he chooses, but can also sing badly when he chooses 59

It is better to have the mind of a bowman who misses his

mark only by design, than that of one who misses even when he intends

to hit 60

Dissent and repugnance of Hippias _ib._

Conclusion--That none but the good man can do evil

wilfully: the bad man does evil unwillingly. Hippias cannot resist

the reasoning, but will not accept the conclusion--Sokrates confesses

his perplexity 61

Remarks on the dialogue. If the parts had been inverted,

the dialogue would have been cited by critics as a specimen of the

sophistry and corruption of the Sophists 62

Polemical purpose of the dialogue--Hippias humiliated by

Sokrates 63

Philosophical purpose of the dialogue--theory of the

Dialogues of Search generally, and of Knowledge as understood by

Plato _ib._

The Hippias is an exemplification of this theory--Sokrates

sets forth a case of confusion, and avows his inability to clear it

up. Confusion shown up in the Lesser Hippias--Error in the Greater 64

The thesis maintained here by Sokrates, is also affirmed

by the historical Sokrates in the Xenophontic Memorabilia 66

Aristotle combats the thesis. Arguments against it 67

Mistake of Sokrates and Plato in dwelling too exclusively

on the intellectual conditions of human conduct _ib._

They rely too much on the analogy of the special arts--they

take no note of the tacit assumptions underlying the epithets of

praise and blame 68

Value of a Dialogue of Search, that it shall be

suggestive, and that it shall bring before us different aspects of

the question under review 69

Antithesis between Rhetoric and Dialectic 70

CHAPTER XIV.

HIPPARCHUS--MINOS.

Hipparchus--Question--What is the definition of Lover of

Gain? He is one who thinks it right to gain from things worth

nothing. Sokrates cross-examines upon this explanation. No man

expects to gain from things which he knows to be worth nothing:

in this sense, no man is a lover of gain 71

Gain is good. Every man loves good: therefore all men are

lovers of gain 72

Apparent contradiction. Sokrates accuses the companion of

trying to deceive him--accusation is retorted upon Sokrates 73

Precept inscribed formerly by Hipparchus the

Peisistratid--never deceive a friend. Eulogy of Hipparchus by

Sokrates _ib._

Sokrates allows the companion to retract some of his answers.

The companion affirms that some gain is good, other gain is evil 74

Questions by Sokrates--bad gain is _gain_, as much as

good gain. What is the common property, in virtue of which both are

called Gain? Every acquisition, made with no outlay, or with a

smaller outlay, is gain. Objections--the acquisition may be

evil--embarrassment confessed _ib._

It is essential to gain, that the acquisition made shall be

greater not merely in quantity, but also in value, than the outlay.

The valuable is the profitable--the profitable is the good.

Conclusion comes back. That Gain is Good 75

Recapitulation. The debate has shown that all gain is good,

and that there is no evil gain--all men are lovers of gain--no man

ought to be reproached for being so the companion is compelled to

admit this, though he declares that he is not persuaded _ib._

Minos. Question put by Sokrates to the companion. What is

Law, or The Law? All law is the same, _quatenus_ law: what is

the common constituent attribute? 76

Answer--Law is, 1. The consecrated and binding customs. 2.

The decree of the city. 3. Social or civic opinion _ib._

Cross-examination by Sokrates--just and lawfully-behaving

men are so through law; unjust and lawless men are so through the

absence of law. Law is highly honourable and useful: lawlessness is

ruinous. Accordingly, bad decrees of the city--or bad social

opinion--cannot be law 77

Suggestion by Sokrates--Law is the _good_ opinion of

the city--but good opinion is true opinion, or the finding out of

reality. Law therefore wishes (tends) to be the finding out of

reality, though it does not always succeed in doing so 77

Objection taken by the Companion--That there is great

discordance of laws in different places--he specifies several cases

of such discordance at some length. Sokrates reproves his prolixity,

and requests him to confine himself to question or answer 78

Farther questions by Sokrates--Things heavy and light, just and

unjust, honourable and dishonourable, &c., are so, and are accounted

so everywhere. Real things are always accounted real. Whoever

fails in attaining the real, fails in attaining the lawful _ib._

There are laws of health and of cure, composed by the few

physicians wise upon those subjects, and unanimously declared by

them. So also there are laws of farming, gardening, cookery, declared

by the few wise in those respective pursuits. In like manner, the

laws of a city are the judgments declared by the few wise men who

know how to rule 79

That which is right is the regal law, the only true and

real law--that which is not right, is not law, but only seems to be

law in the eyes of the ignorant 80

Minos, King of Krete--his laws were divine and excellent,

and have remained unchanged from time immemorial _ib._

Question about the character of Minos--Homer and Hesiod

declare him to have been admirable, the Attic tragedians defame him

as a tyrant, because he was an enemy of Athens 81

That Minos was really admirable--and that he has found out truth and

reality respecting the administration of the city--we may be sure

from the fact that his laws have remained so long unaltered _ib._

The question is made more determinate--What is it that the

good lawgiver prescribes and measures out for the health of the

mind, as the physician measures out food and exercise for the body?

Sokrates cannot tell. Close 81

The Hipparchus and Minos are analogous to each other, and

both of them inferior works of Plato, perhaps unfinished 82

Hipparchus--double meaning of [Greek: philokerdê\s] and

[Greek: ke/rdos] _ib._

State or mind of the agent, as to knowledge, frequent

inquiry in Plato. No tenable definition found 83

Admitting that there is bad gain, as well as good gain,

what is the meaning of the word _gain_**? None is found _ib._

Purpose of Plato in the dialogue--to lay bare the

confusion, and to force the mind of the respondent into efforts for

clearing it up 84

Historical narrative and comments given in the dialogue

respecting Hipparchus--afford no ground for declaring the dialogue to

be spurious _ib._

Minos. Question--What is the characteristic property

connoted by the word [Greek: No/mos] or law? 86

This question was discussed by the historical Sokrates,

Memorabilia of Xenophon _ib._

Definitions of law--suggested and refuted. Law includes,

as a portion of its meaning, justice, goodness, usefulness, &c.

Bad decrees are not laws 86

Sokrates affirms that law is everywhere the same--it is the declared

judgment and command of the Wise man upon the subject to which it

refers--it is truth and reality, found out and certified by him 87

Reasoning of Sokrates in the Minos is unsound, but

Platonic. The Good, True, and Real, coalesce in the mind of Plato--he

acknowledges nothing to be Law, except what he thinks ought to

_be_ Law 88

Plato worships the Ideal of his own mind--the work of

systematic constructive theory by the Wise Man 89

Different applications of this general Platonic view, in

the Minos, Politikus, Kratylus, &c. _Natural_ Rectitude of

Law, Government, Names, &c _ib._

Eulogy on Minos, as having established laws on this divine

type or natural rectitude 90

The Minos was arranged by Aristophanes at first in a

Trilogy along with the Leges 91

Explanations of the word Law--confusion in its meaning _ib._

CHAPTER XV.

THEAGES.

Theagês--has been declared spurious by some modern

critics--grounds for such opinion not sufficient 98

Persons of the dialogue--Sokrates, with Demodokus and

Theagês, father and son. Theagês (the son), eager to acquire

knowledge, desires to be placed under the teaching of a Sophist 99

Sokrates questions Theagês, inviting him to specify what he

wants _ib._

Theagês desires to acquire that wisdom by which he can

govern freemen with their own consent 100

Incompetence of the best practical statesmen to teach any one else.

Theagês requests that Sokrates will himself teach him _ib._

Sokrates declares that he is not competent to teach--that

he knows nothing except about matters of love. Theagês maintains that

many of his young friends have profited largely by the conversation

of Sokrates 101

Sokrates explains how this has sometimes happened--he

recites his experience of the divine sign or Dæmon _ib._

The Dæmon is favourable to some persons, adverse to others.

Upon this circumstance it depends how far any companion profits by

the society of Sokrates. Aristeides has not learnt anything from

Sokrates, yet has improved much by being near to him 102

Theagês expresses his anxiety to be received as the

companion of Sokrates 103

Remarks on the Theagês--analogy with the Lachês 104

Chief peculiarity of the Theagês--stress laid upon the

divine sign or Dæmon _ib._

Plato employs this divine sign here to render some

explanation of the singularity and eccentricity of Sokrates, and of

his unequal influence upon different companions _ib._

Sokrates, while continually finding fault with other

teachers, refused to teach himself--difficulty of finding an excuse

for his refusal. The Theagês furnishes an excuse 106

Plato does not always, nor in other dialogues, allude to

the divine sign in the same way. Its character and working

essentially impenetrable. Sokrates a privileged person _ib._

CHAPTER XVI.

ERASTÆ OR ANTERASTÆ--RIVALES.

Erastæ--subject and persons of the dialogue--dramatic

introduction--interesting youths in the palæstra 111

Two rival Erastæ--one of them literary, devoted to

philosophy--the other gymnastic, hating philosophy _ib._

Question put by Sokrates--What is philosophy? It is the

perpetual accumulation of knowledge, so as to make the largest sum

total 112

In the case of the body, it is not the maximum of exercise

which does good, but the proper, measured quantity. For the mind

also, it is not the maximum of knowledge, but the measured quantity

which is good. Who is the judge to determine this measure? _ib._

No answer given. What is the best conjecture? Answer of the

literary Erastes. A man must learn that which will yield to him the

greatest reputation as a philosopher--as much as will enable him to

talk like an intelligent critic, though not to practise 113

The philosopher is one who is second-best in several

different arts--a Pentathlus--who talks well upon each _ib._

On what occasions can such second-best men be useful? There

are always regular practitioners at hand, and no one will call in the

second-best man when he can have the regular practitioner 114

Philosophy cannot consist in multiplication of learned

acquirements _ib._

Sokrates changes his course of examination--questions put

to show that there is one special art, regal and political, of

administering and discriminating the bad from the good 115

In this art the philosopher must not only be second-best,

competent to talk--but he must be a fully qualified practitioner,

competent to act _ib._

Close of the dialogue--humiliation of the literary Erastes 116

Remarks--animated manner of the dialogue _ib._

Definition of philosophy--here sought for the first

time--Platonic conception of measure--referee not discovered 117

View taken of the second-best critical talking man, as

compared with the special proficient and practitioner 118

Plato's view--that the philosopher has a province special

to himself, distinct from other specialties--dimly indicated--regal

or political art 119

Philosopher--the supreme artist controlling other artists 120

CHAPTER XVII.

ION.

Ion. Persons of the dialogue. Difference of opinion among

modern critics as to its genuineness 124

Rhapsodes as a class in Greece. They competed for prizes at

the festivals. Ion has been triumphant 124

Functions of the Rhapsodes. Recitation--exposition of the

poets--arbitrary exposition of the poets was then frequent 125

The popularity of the Rhapsodes was chiefly derived from

their recitation--powerful effect which they produced _ib._

Ion both reciter and expositor--Homer was considered more

as an instructor than as a poet 126

Plato disregards and disapproves the poetic or emotional

working _ib._

Ion devoted himself to Homer exclusively. Questions of

Sokrates to him--How happens it that you cannot talk equally upon

other poets? The poetic art is one 127

Explanation given by Sokrates--both the Rhapsode and the

Poet work, not by art and system, but by divine inspiration--fine

poets are bereft of their reason, and possessed by inspiration from

some God _ib._

Analogy of the Magnet, which holds up by attraction

successive stages of iron rings. The Gods first inspire Homer, then

act through him and through Ion upon the auditors 128

This comparison forms the central point of the dialogue. It is an

expansion of a judgment delivered by Sokrates in the Apology 129

Platonic Antithesis: systematic procedure distinguished

from unsystematic: which latter was either blind routine, or madness

inspired by the Gods. Varieties of madness, good and bad 129

Special inspiration from the Gods was a familiar fact in

Grecian life--privileged communications from the Gods to

Sokrates--his firm belief in them 130

Condition of the inspired person--his reason is for the

time withdrawn 131

Ion does not admit himself to be inspired and out of his mind 132

Homer talks upon all subjects--Is Ion competent to explain

what Homer says upon all of them? Rhapsodic art. What is its

province? _ib._

The Rhapsode does not know special matters, such as the

craft of the pilot, physician, farmer, &c., but he knows the

business of the general, and is competent to command soldiers, having

learnt it from Homer 133

Conclusion. Ion expounds Homer, not with any knowledge of

what he says, but by divine inspiration 134

The generals in Greece usually possessed no professional

experience--Homer and the poets were talked of as the great

teachers--Plato's view of the poet, as pretending to know

everything, but really knowing nothing _ib._

Knowledge, opposed to divine inspiration without knowledge 136

Illustration of Plato's opinion respecting the uselessness

of written geometrical treatises _ib._

CHAPTER XVIII.

LACHES.

Lachês. Subject and persons of the dialogue--whether it is

useful that two young men should receive lessons from a master of

arms. Nikias and Lachês differ in opinion 138

Sokrates is invited to declare his opinion--he replies that the point

cannot be decided without a competent professional judge 139

Those who deliver an opinion must begin by proving their

competence to judge--Sokrates avows his own incompetence 140

Nikias and Lachês submit to be cross-examined by Sokrates 141

Both of them give opinions offhand, according to their

feelings on the special case--Sokrates requires that the question

shall be generalised, and examined as a branch of education 141

Appeal of Sokrates to the judgment of the One Wise Man--this

man is never seen or identified 142

We must know what virtue is, before we give an opinion on

education--virtue, as a whole, is too large a question--we will

enquire about one branch of virtue--courage _ib._

Question--what is courage? Laches answers by citing

one particularly manifest case of courage--mistake of not giving a

general explanation 143

Second answer. Courage is a sort of endurance of the

mind--Sokrates points out that the answer is vague and

incorrect--endurance is not always courage: even intelligent

endurance is not always courage _ib._

Confusion. New answer given by Nikias. Courage is a sort

of Intelligence--the intelligence of things terrible and not

terrible. Objections of Lachês 144

Questions of Sokrates to Nikias. It is only future events,

not past or present, which are terrible; but intelligence of future

events cannot be had without intelligence of past or present 145

Courage therefore must be intelligence of good and evil

generally. But this definition would include the whole of virtue, and

we declared that courage was only a part thereof--it will not hold

therefore as a definition of courage 146

Remarks. Warfare of Sokrates against the false persuasion

of knowledge. Brave generals deliver opinions confidently about

courage without knowing what it is _ib._

No solution given by Plato--apparent tendency of his mind,

in looking for a solution. Intelligence--cannot be understood without

reference to some object or end 147

Object--is supplied in the answer of Nikias. Intelligence--of

things terrible and not terrible. Such intelligence is not

possessed by professional artists 148

Postulate of a Science of Ends, or Teleology, dimly

indicated by Plato. The Unknown Wise Man--correlates with the

undiscovered Science of Ends _ib._

Perfect condition of the intelligence--is the one

sufficient condition of virtue 149

Dramatic contrast between Lachês and Sokrates, as cross-examiners 150

CHAPTER XIX.

CHARMIDES.

Scene and personages of the dialogue. Crowded palæstra.

Emotions of Sokrates 153

Question, What is Temperance? addressed by Sokrates to the temperate

Charmides. Answer, It is a kind of sedateness or slowness 154

But Temperance is a fine or honourable thing, and slowness

is, in many or most cases, not fine or honourable, but the contrary.

Temperance cannot be slowness _ib._

Second answer. Temperance is a variety of the feeling of

shame. Refuted by Sokrates _ib._

Third answer. Temperance consists in doing one's own

business. Defended by Kritias. Sokrates pronounces it a riddle, and

refutes it. Distinction between making and doing 155

Fourth answer, by Kritias. Temperance consists in self-knowledge. _ib._

Questions of Sokrates thereupon. What good does

self-knowledge procure for us? What is the object known, in this case?

Answer: There is no object of knowledge, distinct from the knowledge

itself 156

Sokrates doubts the possibility of any knowledge, without a

given _cognitum_ as its object. Analogies to prove that

knowledge of knowledge is impossible 156

All knowledge must be relative to some object 157

All properties are relative--every thing in nature has its

characteristic property with reference to something else _ib._

Even if cognition of cognition were possible, cognition of

non-cognition would be impossible. A man may know what he knows, but

he cannot know what he is ignorant of. He knows the fact _that_

he knows: but he does not know how much he knows, and how much he

does not know 158

Temperance, therefore, as thus defined, would be of

little or no value 159

But even granting the possibility of that which has just

been denied, still Temperance would be of little value. Suppose that

all separate work were well performed, by special practitioners, we

should not attain our end--Happiness _ib._

Which of the varieties of knowledge contributes most to

well-doing or happiness? That by which we know good and evil 160

Without the science of good and evil, the other special

science will be of little or of no service. Temperance is not the

science of good and evil, and is of little service 161

Sokrates confesses to entire failure in his research. He

cannot find out what temperance is: although several concessions have

been made which cannot be justified _ib._

Temperance is and must be a good thing: but Charmides

cannot tell whether he is temperate or not; since what temperance is

remains unknown 162

Expressions both from Charmides and Kritias of praise and

devotion to Sokrates, at the close of the dialogue. Dramatic ornament

throughout _ib._

The Charmides is an excellent specimen of Dialogues of

Search. Abundance of guesses and tentatives, all ultimately

disallowed 163

Trial and Error, the natural process of the human mind.

Plato stands alone in bringing to view and dramatising this part of

the mental process. Sokrates accepts for himself the condition of

conscious ignorance 164

Familiar words--constantly used, with much earnest

feeling, but never understood nor defined--ordinary phenomenon in

human society 165

Different ethical points of view in different Platonic

dialogues 167

Self-knowledge is here declared to be impossible _ib._

In other dialogues, Sokrates declares self-knowledge to be

essential and inestimable. Necessity for the student to have

presented to him dissentient points of view _ib._

Courage and Temperance are shown to have no distinct meaning,

except as founded on the general cognizance of good and evil 168

Distinction made between the special sciences and the

science of Good and Evil. Without this last, the special sciences are

of no use _ib._

Knowledge, always relative to some object known. Postulate

or divination of a Science of Teleology 169

Courage and Temperance, handled both by Plato and by

Aristotle. Comparison between the two 170

CHAPTER XX.

LYSIS.

Analogy between Lysis and Charmides. Richness of dramatic

incident in both. Youthful beauty 172

Scenery and personages of the Lysis _ib._

Origin of the conversation. Sokrates promises to give an example

of the proper way of talking to a youth, for his benefit 173

Conversation of Sokrates with Lysis _ib._

Lysis is humiliated. Distress of Hippothalês 177

Lysis entreats Sokrates to talk in the like strain to

Menexenus _ib._

Value of the first conversation between Sokrates and Lysis,

as an illustration of the Platonico-Sokratic manner 177

Sokrates begins to examine Menexenus respecting friendship.

Who is to be called a friend? Halt in the dialogue 178

Questions addressed to Lysis. Appeal to the maxims of the

poets. Like is the friend of like. Canvassed and rejected _ib._

Other poets declare that likeness is a cause of aversion;

unlikeness, of friendship. Reasons _pro_ and _con_.

Rejected 179

Confusion of Sokrates. He suggests, That the Indifferent

(neither good nor evil) is friend to the Good 180

Suggestion canvassed. If the Indifferent is friend to the

Good, it is determined to become so by the contact of felt evil, from

which it is anxious to escape 180

Principle illustrated by the philosopher. His intermediate

condition--not wise, yet painfully feeling his own ignorance 181

Sokrates dissatisfied. He originates a new suggestion. The

Primum Amabile, or object originally dear to us, _per se_: by

relation or resemblance to which other objects become dear _ib._

The cause of love is desire. We desire that which is akin

to us or our own 182

Good is of a nature akin to every one, evil is alien to every one.

Inconsistency with what has been previously laid down 183

Failure of the enquiry. Close of the dialogue 184

Remarks. No positive result. Sokratic purpose in analysing the familiar

words--to expose the false persuasion of knowledge _ib._

Subject of Lysis. Suited for a Dialogue of Search. Manner

of Sokrates, multiplying defective explanations, and showing reasons

why each is defective 185

The process of trial and error is better illustrated by a

search without result than with result. Usefulness of the dialogue

for self-working minds 186

Subject of friendship, handled both by the Xenophontic

Sokrates, and by Aristotle _ib._

Debate in the Lysis partly verbal, partly real.

Assumptions made by the Platonic Sokrates, questionable, such as the

real Sokrates would have found reason for challenging 188

Peculiar theory about friendship broached by Sokrates.

Persons neither good nor evil by nature, yet having a superficial

tinge of evil, and desiring good to escape from it 189

This general theory illustrated by the case of the

philosopher or lover of wisdom. Painful consciousness of ignorance

the attribute of the philosopher. Value set by Sokrates and Plato

upon this attribute 190

Another theory of Sokrates. The Primum Amabile, or

original and primary object of Love. Particular objects are loved

through association with this. The object is Good 191

Statement by Plato of the general law of mental association _ib._

Theory of the Primum Amabile, here introduced by Sokrates,

with numerous derivative objects of love. Platonic Idea. Generic

communion of Aristotle, distinguished by him from the feebler

analogical communion 192

Primum Amabile of Plato, compared with the Prima Amicitia

of Aristotle. Each of them is head of an analogical aggregate, not

member of a generic family 194

The Good and Beautiful, considered as objects of attachment _ib._

CHAPTER XXI.

EUTHYDEMUS.

Dramatic and comic exuberance of the Euthydêmus. Judgments

of various critics 195

Scenery and personages _ib._

The two Sophists, Euthydemus and Dionysodorus: manner in

which they are here presented 196

Conversation carried on with Kleinias, first by Sokrates,

next by the two Sophists _ib._

Contrast between the two different modes of interrogation 197

Wherein this contrast does not consist 198

Wherein it does consist 199

Abuse of fallacies by the Sophists--their bidding for the

applause of the by-standers _ibid._

Comparison of the Euthydêmus with the Parmenidês 200

Necessity of settling accounts with the negative, before

we venture upon the affirmative, is common to both: in the one the

process is solitary and serious; in the other, it is vulgarised and

ludicrous 201

Opinion of Stallbaum and other critics about the

Euthydêmus, that Euthydêmus and Dionysodorus represent the way in

which Protagoras and Gorgias talked to their auditors 202

That opinion is unfounded. Sokrates was much more Eristic

than Protagoras, who generally manifested himself by continuous

speech or lecture _ib._

Sokrates in the Euthydêmus is drawn suitably to the

purpose of that dialogue 203

The two Sophists in the Euthydêmus are not to be taken as

real persons, or representatives of real persons 204

Colloquy of Sokrates with Kleinias--possession of good things is

useless, unless we also have intelligence how to use them _ib._

But intelligence--of what? It must be such intelligence,

or such an art, as will include both the making of what we want, and

the right use of it when made 205

Where is such an art to be found? The regal or political

art looks like it; but what does this art do for us? No answer can be

found. Ends in puzzle 206

Review of the cross-examination just pursued by Sokrates.

It is very suggestive--puts the mind upon what to look for 207

Comparison with other dialogues--Republic, Philêbus, Protagoras.

The only distinct answer is found in the Protagoras 208

The talk of the two Sophists, though ironically admired

while it is going on, is shown at the end to produce no real

admiration, but the contrary _ib._

Mistaken representations about the Sophists--Aristotle's

definition--no distinguishable line can be drawn between the Sophist

and the Dialectician 210

Philosophical purpose of the Euthydêmus--exposure of

fallacies, in Plato's dramatic manner, by multiplication of

particular examples 211

Aristotle (Soph. Elench.) attempts a classification of

fallacies: Plato enumerates them without classification 212

Fallacies of equivocation propounded by the two Sophists

in the Euthydêmus _ib._

Fallacies--_à dicto secundum quid, ad dictum

simpliciter_--in the Euthydêmus 213

Obstinacy shown by the two Sophists in their

replies--determination not to contradict themselves 214

Farther verbal equivocations _ib._

Fallacies involving deeper logical principles--contradiction

is impossible.--To speak falsely is impossible 215

Plato's Euthydêmus is the earliest known attempt to set

out and expose fallacies--the only way of exposing fallacies is to

exemplify the fallacy by particular cases, in which the conclusion

proved is known _aliunde_ to be false and absurd 216

Mistake of supposing fallacies to have been invented and

propagated by Athenian Sophists--they are inherent inadvertencies and

liabilities to error, in the ordinary process of thinking. Formal

debate affords the best means of correcting them 217

Wide-spread prevalence of erroneous belief, misguided by

one or other of these fallacies, attested by Sokrates, Plato, Bacon,

&c.,--complete enumeration of heads of fallacies by Mill 218

Value of formal debate as a means for testing and

confuting fallacies 221

Without the habit of formal debate, Plato could not have

composed his Euthydêmus, nor Aristotle the treatise De Sophisticis

Elenchis _ib._

Probable popularity of the Euthydêmus at Athens--welcomed

by all the enemies of Dialectic 222

Epilogue of Plato to the Dialogue, trying to obviate this

inference by opponents--Conversation between Sokrates and Kriton 223

Altered tone in speaking of Euthydêmus--Disparagement of

persons half-philosophers, half-politicians 224

Kriton asks Sokrates for advice about the education of his

sons--Sokrates cannot recommend a teacher--tells him to search for

himself 225

Euthydêmus is here cited as representative of Dialectic

and philosophy 226

Who is the person here intended by Plato,

half-philosopher, half-politician? Is it Isokrates? 227

Variable feeling at different times, between Plato and

Isokrates 228

CHAPTER XXII.

MENON.

Persons of the Dialogue 232

Question put by Menon--Is virtue teachable? Sokrates confesses that

he does not know what virtue is. Surprise of Menon _ib._

Sokrates stands alone in this confession. Unpopularity

entailed by it 233

Answer of Menon--plurality of virtues, one belonging to

each different class and condition. Sokrates enquires for the

property common to all of them _ib._

Analogous cases cited--definitions of figure and colour 235

Importance at that time of bringing into conscious view,

logical subordination and distinctions--Neither logic nor grammar had

then been cast into system _ib._

Definition of virtue given by Menon: Sokrates pulls it to pieces 236

Menon complains that the conversation of Sokrates confounds

him like an electric shock--Sokrates replies that he is himself in

the same state of confusion and ignorance. He urges continuance of

search by both 237

But how is the process of search available to any purpose? No man

searches for what he already knows: and for what he does not know,

it is useless to search, for he cannot tell when he has found it _ib._

Theory of reminiscence propounded by Sokrates--anterior immortality

of the soul--what is called teaching is the revival and recognition

of knowledge acquired in a former life, but forgotten _ib._

Illustration of this theory--knowledge may be revived by

skilful questions in the mind of a man thoroughly untaught. Sokrates

questions the slave of Menon 238

Enquiry taken up--Whether virtue is teachable? without

determining what virtue is 239

Virtue is knowledge--no possessions, no attributes, either

of mind or body, are good or profitable, except under the guidance of

knowledge _ib._

Virtue, as being knowledge, must be teachable. Yet there

are opposing reasons, showing that it cannot be teachable. No

teachers of it can be found 239

Conversation of Sokrates with Anytus, who detests the

Sophists, and affirms that any one of the leading politicians can

teach virtue 240

Confused state of the discussion. No way of acquiring

virtue is shown _ib._

Sokrates modifies his premisses--knowledge is not the only thing

which guides to good results--right opinion will do the same _ib._

Right opinion cannot be relied on for staying in the mind,

and can never give rational explanations, nor teach others--good

practical statesmen receive right opinion by inspiration from the

Gods 241

All the real virtue that there is, is communicated by

special inspiration from the Gods 242

But what virtue itself is, remains unknown _ib._

Remarks on the dialogue. Proper order for examining the

different topics, is pointed out by Sokrates _ib._

Mischief of debating ulterior and secondary questions when

the fundamental notions and word are unsettled _ib._

Doctrine of Sokrates in the Menon--desire of good alleged

to be universally felt--in what sense this is true 243

Sokrates requires knowledge as the principal condition of

virtue, but does not determine knowledge, of what? 244

Subject of Menon; same as that of the Protagoras--diversity

of handling--Plato is not anxious to settle a question and

get rid of it 245

Anxiety of Plato to keep up and enforce the spirit of

research 246

Great question discussed among the Grecian

philosophers--criterion of truth--Wherein consists the process

of verification? _ib._

None of the philosophers were satisfied with the answer

here made by Plato--that verification consists in appeal to pre-natal

experience 247

Plato's view of the immortality of the soul--difference

between the Menon, Phædrus, and Phædon 249

Doctrine of Plato, that new truth may be elicited by skilful

examination out of the unlettered mind--how far correct? _ib._

Plato's doctrine about _à priori_ reasonings--different

from the modern doctrine 251

Plato's theory about pre-natal experience. He took no

pains to ascertain and measure the extent of post-natal experience 252

Little or nothing is said in the Menon about the Platonic

Ideas or Forms 253

What Plato meant by Causal Reasoning--his distinction

between knowledge and right opinion _ib._

This distinction compared with modern philosophical views 254

Manifestation of Anytus--intense antipathy to the Sophists

and to philosophy generally 255

The enemy of Sokrates is also the enemy of the

sophists--practical statesmen 256

The Menon brings forward the point of analogy between

Sokrates and the Sophists, in which both were disliked by the

practical statesmen 257

CHAPTER XXIII.

PROTAGORAS.

Scenic arrangement and personages of the dialogue 259

Introduction. Eagerness of the youthful Hippokrates to

become acquainted with Protagoras 260

Sokrates questions Hippokrates as to his purpose and

expectations from Protagoras _ib._

Danger of going to imbibe the instruction of a Sophist

without knowing beforehand what he is about to teach 262

Remarks on the Introduction. False persuasion of knowledge

brought to light 263

Sokrates and Hippokrates go to the house of Kallias.

Company therein. Respect shown to Protagoras 264

Questions of Sokrates to Protagoras. Answer of the latter,

declaring the antiquity of the sophistical profession, and his own

openness in avowing himself a sophist _ib._

Protagoras prefers to converse in presence of the assembled

company 266

Answers of Protagoras. He intends to train young men as

virtuous citizens _ib._

Sokrates doubts whether virtue is teachable. Reasons for

such doubt. Protagoras is asked to explain whether it is or not. _ib._

Explanation of Protagoras. He begins with a mythe 267

Mythe. First fabrication of men by the Gods. Prometheus and

Epimetheus. Bad distribution of endowments to man by the latter. It

is partly amended by Prometheus 267

Prometheus gave to mankind skill for the supply of

individual wants, but could not give them the social art--Mankind are

on the point of perishing, when Zeus sends to them the dispositions

essential for society 268

Protagoras follows up his mythe by a discourse. Justice and

the sense of shame are not professional attributes, but are possessed

by all citizens and taught by all to all 269

Constant teaching of virtue. Theory of punishment 270

Why eminent men cannot make their sons eminent 271

Teaching by parents, schoolmaster, harpist, laws,

dikastery, &c. _ib._

All learn virtue from the same teaching by all. Whether a

learner shall acquire more or less of it, depends upon his own

individual aptitude 272

Analogy of learning vernacular Greek. No special teacher

thereof. Protagoras teaches virtue somewhat better than others 273

The sons of great artists do not themselves become great

artists 274

Remarks upon the mythe and discourse. They explain the

manner in which the established sentiment of a community propagates

and perpetuates itself 274

Antithesis of Protagoras and Sokrates. Whether virtue is

to be assimilated to a special art 275

Procedure of Sokrates in regard to the discourse of

Protagoras--he compliments it as an exposition, and analyses some of

the fundamental assumptions 276

One purpose of the dialogue. To contrast continuous

discourse with short cross-examining question and answer 277

Questions by Sokrates--Whether virtue is one and

indivisible, or composed of different parts? Whether the parts are

homogeneous or heterogeneous? _ib._

Whether justice is just, and holiness holy? How far

justice is like to holiness? Sokrates protests against an answer, "If

you please" 278

Intelligence and moderation are identical, because they

have the same contrary 279

Insufficient reasons given by Sokrates. He seldom cares to

distinguish different meanings of the same term _ib._

Protagoras is puzzled, and becomes irritated 280

Sokrates presses Protagoras farther. His purpose is, to

test opinions and not persons. Protagoras answers with angry

prolixity _ib._

Remonstrance of Sokrates against long answers as

inconsistent with the laws of dialogue. Protagoras persists. Sokrates

rises to depart 281

Interference of Kallias to get the debate continued.

Promiscuous conversation. Alkibiades declares that Protagoras ought

to acknowledge superiority of Sokrates in dialogue 282

Claim of a special _locus standi_ and professorship

for Dialectic, apart from Rhetoric _ib._

Sokrates is prevailed upon to continue, and invites

Protagoras to question him _ib._

Protagoras extols the importance of knowing the works of

the poets, and questions about parts of a song of Simonides.

Dissenting opinions about the interpretation of the song 283

Long speech of Sokrates, expounding the purpose of the

song, and laying down an ironical theory about the numerous concealed

sophists at Krete and Sparta, masters of short speech 283

Character of this speech--its connection with the

dialogue, and its general purpose. Sokrates inferior to Protagoras in

continuous speech 284

Sokrates depreciates the value of debates on the poets.

Their meaning is always disputed, and you can never ask from

themselves what it is. Protagoras consents reluctantly to resume the

task of answering 285

Purpose of Sokrates to sift difficulties which he really

feels in his own mind. Importance of a colloquial companion for this

purpose 287

The interrupted debate is resumed. Protagoras says that

courage differs materially from the other branches of virtue 288

Sokrates argues to prove that courage consists in

knowledge or intelligence. Protagoras does not admit this. Sokrates

changes his attack _ib._

Identity of the pleasurable with the good--of the painful

with the evil. Sokrates maintains it. Protagoras denies. Debate 289

Enquiry about knowledge. Is it the dominant agency in the

mind? Or is it overcome frequently by other agencies, pleasure or

pain? Both agree that knowledge is dominant 290

Mistake of supposing that men act contrary to knowledge.

We never call pleasures evils, except when they entail a

preponderance of pain, or a disappointment of greater pleasures 291

Pleasure is the only good--pain the only evil. No man does

evil voluntarily, knowing it to be evil. Difference between pleasures

present and future--resolves itself into pleasure and pain 292

Necessary resort to the measuring art for choosing

pleasures rightly--all the security of our lives depend upon it 293

To do wrong, overcome by pleasure, is only a bad phrase

for describing what is really a case of grave ignorance 294

Reasoning of Sokrates assented to by all. Actions which

conduct to pleasures or freedom from pain, are honourable 295

Explanation of courage. It consists in a wise estimate of

things terrible and not terrible _ib._

Reluctance of Protagoras to continue answering. Close of

the discussion. Sokrates declares that the subject is still in

confusion, and that he wishes to debate it again with Protagoras.

Amicable reply of Protagoras 297

Remarks on the dialogue. It closes without the least

allusion to Hippokrates 298

Two distinct aspects of ethics and politics exhibited: one

under the name of Protagoras; the other, under that of Sokrates 299

Order of ethical problems, as conceived by Sokrates _ib._

Difference of method between him and Protagoras flows from

this difference of order. Protagoras assumes what virtue is, without

enquiry 300

Method of Protagoras. Continuous lectures addressed to

established public sentiments with which he is in harmony 301

Method of Sokrates. Dwells upon that part of the problem

which Protagoras had left out _ib._

Antithesis between the eloquent lecturer and the

analytical cross-examiner 303

Protagoras not intended to be always in the wrong, though

he is described as brought to a contradiction _ib._

Affirmation of Protagoras about courage is affirmed by

Plato himself elsewhere _ib._

The harsh epithets applied by critics to Protagoras are

not borne out by the dialogue. He stands on the same ground as the

common consciousness 304

Aversion of Protagoras for dialectic. Interlude about the

song of Simonides 305

Ethical view given by Sokrates worked out at length

clearly. Good and evil consist in right or wrong calculation of

pleasures and pains of the agent _ib._

Protagoras is at first opposed to this theory 306

Reasoning of Sokrates 307

Application of that reasoning to the case of courage _ib._

The theory which Plato here lays down is more distinct and

specific than any theory laid down in other dialogues 308

Remarks on the theory here laid down by Sokrates. It is

too narrow, and exclusively prudential 309

Comparison with the Republic 310

The discourse of Protagoras brings out an important part

of the whole case, which is omitted in the analysis by Sokrates 311

The Ethical End, as implied in the discourse of

Protagoras, involves a direct regard to the pleasures and pains of

other persons besides the agent himself 312

Plato's reasoning in the dialogue is not clear or

satisfactory, especially about courage 313

Doctrine of Stallbaum and other critics is not correct.

That the analysis here ascribed to Sokrates is not intended by Plato

as serious, but as a mockery of the sophists 314

Grounds of that doctrine. Their insufficiency 315

Subject is professedly still left unsettled at the close

of the dialogue 316

CHAPTER XXIV.

GORGIAS.

Persons who debate in the Gorgias. Celebrity of the

historical Gorgias 317

Introductory circumstances of the dialogue. Polus and

Kalliklês 318

Purpose of Sokrates in questioning. Conditions of a good

definition _ib._

Questions about the definition of Rhetoric. It is the

artisan of persuasion 319

The Rhetor produces belief without knowledge. Upon what

matters is he competent to advise? 319

The Rhetor can persuade the people upon any matter, even

against the opinion of the special expert. He appears to know, among

the ignorant 320

Gorgias is now made to contradict himself. Polus takes

up the debate with Sokrates 321

Polemical tone of Sokrates. At the instance of Polus he

gives his own definition of rhetoric. It is no art, but an empirical

knack of catering for the immediate pleasure of hearers, analogous to

cookery. It is a branch under the general head flattery _ib._

Distinction between the true arts which aim at the good of

the body and mind--and the counterfeit arts, which pretend to the

same, but in reality aim at immediate pleasure 322

Questions of Polus. Sokrates denies that the Rhetors have

any real power, because they do nothing which they really wish 323

All men wish for what is good for them. Despots and

Rhetors, when they kill any one, do so because they think it good for

them. If it be really not good, they do not do what they will, and

therefore have no real power 324

Comparison of Archelaus, usurping despot of Macedonia--Polus

affirms that Archelaus is happy, and that every one thinks

so--Sokrates admits that every one thinks so, but nevertheless

denies it 325

Sokrates maintains--1. That it is a greater evil to do

wrong, than to suffer wrong. 2. That if a man has done wrong, it is

better for him to be punished than to remain unpunished 326

Sokrates offers proof--Definition of Pulchrum and

Turpe--Proof of the first point 327

Proof of the second point _ib._

The criminal labours under a mental distemper, which

though not painful, is a capital evil. Punishment is the only cure

for him. To be punished is best for him 328

Misery of the Despot who is never punished. If our friend

has done wrong, we ought to get him punished: if our enemy, we ought

to keep him unpunished 329

Argument of Sokrates paradoxical--Doubt expressed by

Kalliklês whether he means it seriously 330

Principle laid down by Sokrates--That every one acts with

a view to the attainment of happiness and avoidance of misery _ib._

Peculiar view taken by Plato of Good--Evil--Happiness 331

Contrast of the usual meaning of these words, with the

Platonic meaning _ib._

Examination of the proof given by Sokrates--Inconsistency

between the general answer of Polus and his previous

declarations--Law and Nature 332

The definition of Pulchrum and Turpe, given by Sokrates,

will not hold 334

Worse or better--for whom? The argument of Sokrates does

not specify. If understood in the sense necessary for his inference,

the definition would be inadmissible _ib._

Plato applies to every one a standard of happiness and

misery peculiar to himself. His view about the conduct of Archelaus

is just, but he does not give the true reasons for it 335

If the reasoning of Plato were true, the point of view in

which punishment is considered would be reversed 336

Plato pushes too far the analogy between mental distemper

and bodily distemper--Material difference between the two--Distemper

must be felt by the distempered persons 337

Kalliklês begins to argue against Sokrates--he takes a

distinction between Just by Law and Just by nature--Reply of

Sokrates, that there is no variance between the two, properly

understood 338

What Kalliklês says is not to be taken as a sample of the

teachings of Athenian sophists. Kalliklês--rhetor and politician 339

Uncertainty of referring to Nature as an authority. It may

be pleaded in favour of opposite theories. The theory of Kalliklês is

made to appear repulsive by the language in which he expresses it 340

Sokrates maintains that self-command and moderation is

requisite for the strong man as well as for others. Kalliklês defends

the negative 343

Whether the largest measure of desires is good for a man,

provided he has the means of satisfying them? Whether all varieties

of desire are good? Whether the pleasurable and the good are

identical? 344

Kalliklês maintains that pleasurable and good are

identical. Sokrates refutes him. Some pleasures are good, others bad.

A scientific adviser is required to discriminate them 345

Contradiction between Sokrates in the Gorgias, and

Sokrates in the Protagoras _ib._

Views of critics about this contradiction 346

Comparison and appreciation of the reasoning of Sokrates

in both dialogues _ib._

Distinct statement in the Protagoras. What are good and

evil, and upon what principles the scientific adviser is to proceed

in discriminating them. No such distinct statement in the Gorgias 347

Modern ethical theories. Intuition. Moral sense--not

recognised by Plato in either of the dialogues 348

In both dialogues the doctrine of Sokrates is

self-regarding as respects the agent: not considering the

pleasures and pains of other persons, so far as affected by

the agent 349

Points wherein the doctrine of the two dialogues is in

substance the same, but differing in classification _ib._

Kalliklês, whom Sokrates refutes in the Gorgias, maintains

a different argument from that which Sokrates combats in the

Protagoras 350

The refutation of Kalliklês by Sokrates in the Gorgias, is

unsuccessful--it is only so far successful as he adopts

unintentionally the doctrine of Sokrates in the Protagoras 351

Permanent elements--and transient elements--of human

agency--how each of them is appreciated in the two dialogues 353

In the Protagoras _ib._

In the Gorgias 354

Character of the Gorgias generally--discrediting all the

actualities of life 355

Argument of Sokrates resumed--multifarious arts of

flattery, aiming at immediate pleasure 357

The Rhetors aim at only flattering the public--even the

best past Rhetors have done nothing else--citation of the four great

Rhetors by Kallikles 357

Necessity for temperance, regulation, order. This is the

condition of virtue and happiness 358

Impossible to succeed in public life, unless a man be

thoroughly akin to and in harmony with the ruling force 359

Danger of one who dissents from the public, either for

better or for worse _ib._

Sokrates resolves upon a scheme of life for himself--to

study permanent good, and not immediate satisfaction 360

Sokrates announces himself as almost the only man at Athens,

who follows out the true political art. Danger of doing this 361

Mythe respecting Hades, and the treatment of deceased

persons therein, according to their merits during life--the

philosopher who stood aloof from public affairs, will then be

rewarded _ib._

Peculiar ethical views of Sokrates--Rhetorical or

dogmatical character of the Gorgias 362

He merges politics in Ethics--he conceives the rulers as

spiritual teachers and trainers of the community _id._

_Idéal_ of Plato--a despotic lawgiver or man-trainer,

on scientific principles, fashioning all characters pursuant to

certain types of his own 363

Platonic analogy between mental goodness and bodily

health--incomplete analogy--circumstances of difference _ib._

Sokrates in the Gorgias speaks like a dissenter among a

community of fixed opinions and habits. Impossible that a dissenter,

on important points, should acquire any public influence 364

Sokrates feels his own isolation from his countrymen. He

is thrown upon individual speculation and dialectic 365

Antithesis between philosophy and rhetoric _ib._

Position of one who dissents, upon material points, from

the fixed opinions and creed of his countrymen 366

Probable feelings of Plato on this subject--Claim put

forward in the Gorgias of an independent _locus standi_ for

philosophy, but without the indiscriminate cross-examination

pursued by Sokrates 367

Importance of maintaining the utmost liberty of discussion.

Tendency of all ruling orthodoxy towards intolerance 368

Issue between philosophy and rhetoric--not satisfactorily

handled by Plato. Injustice done to rhetoric. Ignoble manner in which

it is presented by Polus and Kalliklês 369

Perikles would have accepted the defence of rhetoric, as

Plato has put it into the mouth of Gorgias 370

The Athenian people recognise a distinction between the

pleasurable and the good: but not the same as that which Plato

conceived 371

Rhetoric was employed at Athens in appealing to all the

various established sentiments and opinions. Erroneous inferences

raised by the Kalliklês of Plato 373

The Platonic Idéal exacts, as good, some order, system,

discipline. But order may be directed to bad ends as well as to good.

Divergent ideas about virtue 374

How to discriminate the right order from the wrong. Plato

does not advise us 375

The Gorgias upholds the independence and dignity of the

dissenting philosopher _ib._

CHAPTER XXV.

PHÆDON.

The Phædon is affirmative and expository 377

Situation and circumstances assumed in the Phædon. Pathetic

interest which they inspire _ib._

Simmias and Kebês, the two collocutors with Sokrates. Their

feelings and those of Sokrates 378

Emphasis of Sokrates in insisting on freedom of debate, active

exercise of reason, and independent judgment for each reasoner 379

Anxiety of Sokrates that his friends shall be on their

guard against being influenced by his authority--that they shall

follow only the convictions of their own reason 380

Remarkable manifestation of earnest interest for reasoned

truth and the liberty of individual dissent 381

Phædon and Symposion--points of analogy and contrast 382

Phædon--compared with Republic and Timæus. No recognition

of the triple or lower souls. Antithesis between soul and body 383

Different doctrines of Plato about the soul. Whether all

the three souls are immortal, or the rational soul alone 385

The life and character of a philosopher is a constant

struggle to emancipate his soul from his body. Death alone enables

him to do this completely 386

Souls of the ordinary or unphilosophical men pass after

death into the bodies of different animals. The philosopher alone is

relieved from all communion with body 387

Special privilege claimed for philosophers in the Phædon

apart from the virtuous men who are not philosophers 388

Simmias and Kebês do not admit readily the immortality of

the soul, but are unwilling to trouble Sokrates by asking for proof.

Unabated interest of Sokrates in rational debate 390

Simmias and Kebês believe fully in the pre-existence of

the soul, but not in its post-existence. Doctrine--That the soul is a

sort of harmony--refuted by Sokrates _ib._

Sokrates unfolds the intellectual changes or wanderings

through which his mind had passed 391

First doctrine of Sokrates as to cause. Reasons why he

rejected it _ib._

Second doctrine. Hopes raised by the treatise of

Anaxagoras 393

Disappointment because Anaxagoras did not follow out the

optimistic principle into detail. Distinction between causes

efficient and causes co-efficient 394

Sokrates could neither trace out the optimistic principle

for himself, nor find any teacher thereof. He renounced it, and

embraced a third doctrine about cause 395

He now assumes the separate existence of ideas. These

ideas are the causes why particular objects manifest certain

attributes 396

Procedure of Sokrates if his hypothesis were impugned. He

insists upon keeping apart the discussion of the hypothesis and the

discussion of its consequences 397

Exposition of Sokrates welcomed by the hearers. Remarks

upon it 398

The philosophical changes in Sokrates all turned upon

different views as to a true cause _ib._.

Problems and difficulties of which Sokrates first sought

solution 399

Expectations entertained by Sokrates from the treatise of

Anaxagoras. His disappointment. His distinction between causes and

co-efficients 400

Sokrates imputes to Anaxagoras the mistake of substituting

physical agencies in place of mental. This is the same which

Aristophanes and others imputed to Sokrates 401

The supposed theory of Anaxagoras cannot be carried out,

either by Sokrates himself or any one else. Sokrates turns to general

words, and adopts the theory of ideas 403

Vague and dissentient meanings attached to the word Cause.

That is a cause, to each man, which gives satisfaction to his

inquisitive feelings 404

Dissension and perplexity on the question.--What is a

cause? revealed by the picture of Sokrates--no intuition to guide him

407

Different notions of Plato and Aristotle about causation,

causes regular and irregular. Inductive theory of causation,

elaborated in modern times _ib._

Last transition of the mind of Sokrates from things to

words--to the adoption of the theory of ideas. Great multitude of

ideas assumed, each fitting a certain number of particulars 410

Ultimate appeal to hypothesis of extreme generality 411

Plato's demonstration of the immortality of the soul rests

upon the assumption of the Platonic ideas. Reasoning to prove this 412

The soul always brings life, and is essentially living. It

cannot receive death: in other words, it is immortal 413

The proof of immortality includes pre-existence as well as

post-existence--animals as well as man--also the metempsychosis or

translation of the soul from one body to another 414

After finishing his proof that the soul is immortal,

Sokrates enters into a description, what will become of it after the

death of the body. He describes a [Greek: Nekui/a] 415

Sokrates expects that his soul is going to the islands of

the blest. Reply to Kriton about burying his body 416

Preparations for administering the hemlock. Sympathy of

the gaoler. Equanimity of Sokrates _ib._

Sokrates swallows the poison. Conversation with the gaoler 417

Ungovernable sorrow of the friends present. Self-command

of Sokrates. Last words to Kriton, and death _ib._

Extreme pathos, and probable trustworthiness of these

personal details 419

Contrast between the Platonic Apology and the Phædon _ib._.

Abundant dogmatic and poetical invention of the Phædon

compared with the profession of ignorance which we read in the

Apology 421

Total renunciation and discredit of the body in the Phædon.

Different feeling about the body in other Platonic dialogues 422

Plato's argument does not prove the immortality of the

soul. Even if it did prove that, yet the mode of pre-existence and

the mode of post-existence, of the soul, would be quite undetermined 423

The philosopher will enjoy an existence of pure soul

unattached to any body 425

Plato's demonstration of the immortality of the soul did

not appear satisfactory to subsequent philosophers. The question

remained debated and problematical 426

PLATO.

CHAPTER XII

ALKIBIADES I. AND II.

ALKIBIADES I.--ON THE NATURE OF MAN.

[Side-note: Situation supposed in the dialogue.

Persons--Sokrates and Alkibiades.]

This dialogue is carried on between Sokrates and Alkibiades. It

introduces Alkibiades as about twenty years of age, having just

passed through the period of youth, and about to enter on the

privileges and duties of a citizen. The real dispositions and

circumstances of the historical Alkibiades (magnificent personal

beauty, stature, and strength, high family and connections, great

wealth already possessed, since his father had died when he was a

child,--a full measure of education and accomplishments--together

with exorbitant ambition and insolence, derived from such accumulated

advantages) are brought to view in the opening address of Sokrates.

Alkibiades, during the years of youth which he had just passed, had

been surrounded by admirers who tried to render themselves acceptable

to him, but whom he repelled with indifference, and even with scorn.

Sokrates had been among them, constantly present and near to

Alkibiades, but without ever addressing a word to him. The youthful

beauty being now exchanged for manhood, all these admirers had

retired, and Sokrates alone remains. His attachment is to Alkibiades

himself: to promise of mind rather than to attractions of person.

Sokrates has been always hitherto restrained, by his divine sign

or Dæmon, from speaking to Alkibiades. But this prohibition has now

been removed; and he accosts him for the first time, in the full

belief that he shall be able to give improving counsel, essential to

the success of that political career upon which the youth is about to

enter.[1]

[Footnote 1: Plato, Alkib. i. 103, 104, 105. Perikles is supposed to

be still alive and political leader of Athens--104 B.

I have briefly sketched the imaginary situation to which this

dialogue is made to apply. The circumstances of it belong to Athenian

manners of the Platonic age.

Some of the critics, considering that the relation supposed between

Sokrates and Alkibiades is absurd and unnatural, allege this among

their reasons for denying the authenticity of the dialogue. But if

any one reads the concluding part of the Symposion--the authenticity

of which has never yet been denied by any critic--he will find

something a great deal more abnormal in what is there recounted about

Sokrates and Alkibiades.

In a dialogue composed by Æschines Socraticus (cited by the rhetor

Aristeides--[Greek: Peri\ R(êtorikê=s], Or. xlv. p. 23-24),

expressions of intense love for Alkibiades are put into the mouth of

Sokrates. Æschines was [Greek: gnê/sios e(tai=ros Sôkra/tous], not

less than Plato. The different companions of Sokrates thus agreed in

their picture of the relation between him and Alkibiades.]

[Side-note: Exorbitant hopes and political ambition of

Alkibiades.]

You are about to enter on public life (says Sokrates to Alkibiades)

with the most inordinate aspirations for glory and aggrandisement.

You not only thirst for the acquisition of ascendancy such as

Perikles possesses at Athens, but your ambition will not be satisfied

unless you fill Asia with your renown, and put yourself upon a level

with Cyrus and Xerxes. Now such aspirations cannot be gratified

except through my assistance. I do not deal in long discourses such

as you have been accustomed to hear from others: I shall put to you

only some short interrogatories, requiring nothing more than answers

to my questions.[2]

[Footnote 2: Plato, Alkib. i. 106 B. [Greek: A)=ra e)rôtta=|s ei)/

tina e)/chô ei)pei=n lo/gon makro/n, oi(/ous dê\ a)kou/ein

ei)/thisai? ou) ga/r e)sti toiou=ton to\ e)mo/n.] I give here, as

elsewhere, not an exact translation, but an abstract.]

[Side-note: Questions put by Sokrates, in reference to

Alkibiades in his intended function as adviser of the Athenians. What

does he intend to advise them upon? What has he learnt, and what does

he know?]

_Sokr._--You are about to step forward as adviser of the public

assembly. Upon what points do you intend to advise them? Upon points

which you know better than they? _Alk._--Of course.

_Sokr._--All that you know, has been either learnt from others

or found out by yourself. _Alk._--Certainly. _Sokr._--But

you would neither have learnt any thing, nor found out any thing,

without the desire to learn or find out: and you would have felt no

such desire, in respect to that which you believed yourself to know

already. That which you now know, therefore, there was a time when

you believed yourself not to know? _Alk._--Necessarily so.

_Sokr._--Now all that you have learnt, as I am well aware,

consists of three things--letters, the harp, gymnastics. Do you

intend to advise the Athenians when they are debating about letters,

or about harp-playing, or about gymnastics? _Alk._--Neither of

the three. _Sokr._--Upon what occasions, then, do you propose to

give advice? Surely, not when the Athenians are debating about

architecture, or prophetic warnings, or the public health: for to

deliver opinions on each of these matters, belongs not to you but to

professional men--architects, prophets, physicians; whether they be

poor or rich, high-born or low-born? If not _then_, upon what

other occasions will you tender your counsel? _Alk._--When they

are debating about affairs of their own.

[Side-note: Alkibiades intends to advise the Athenians on

questions of war and peace. Questions of Sokrates thereupon. We must

fight those whom it is better to fight--to what standard does better

refer? To just and unjust.]

_Sokr._--But about what affairs of their own? Not about affairs

of shipbuilding: for of that you know nothing. _Alk._--When they

are discussing war and peace, or any other business concerning the

city. _Sokr._--You mean when they are discussing the question

with whom they shall make war or peace, and in what manner? But it is

certain that we must fight those whom it is best to fight--also

_when_ it is best--and _as long as_ it is best.

_Alk._--Certainly. _Sokr._--Now, if the Athenians wished

to know whom it was best to wrestle with, and when or how long it was

best which of the two would be most competent to advise them, you or

the professional trainer? _Alk._--The trainer, undoubtedly.

_Sokr._--So, too, about playing the harp or singing. But when

you talk about _better_, in wrestling or singing, what standard

do you refer to? Is it not to the gymnastic or musical art?

_Alk._--Yes. _Sokr._--Answer me in like manner about war or

peace, the subjects on which you are going to advise your countrymen,

whom, and at what periods, it is _better_ to fight, and

_better_ not to fight? What in this last case do you mean by

_better_? To what standard, or to what end, do you refer?[3]

_Alk._--I cannot say. _Sokr._--But is it not a disgrace,

since you profess to advise your countrymen when and against whom

it is better for them to war,--not to be able to say to what end your

_better_ refers? Do not you know what are the usual grounds and

complaints urged when war is undertaken? _Alk._--Yes:

complaints of having been cheated, or robbed, or injured.

_Sokr._--Under what circumstances? _Alk._--You mean,

whether justly or unjustly? That makes all the difference.

_Sokr._--Do you mean to advise the Athenians to fight those who

behave justly, or those who behave unjustly? _Alk._--The

question is monstrous. Certainly not those who behave justly. It

would be neither lawful nor honourable. _Sokr._--Then when you

spoke about _better_, in reference to war or peace, what you

meant was _juster_--you had in view justice and injustice?

_Alk._--It seems so.

[Footnote 3: Plato, Alkib. i. 108 E--109 A.

[Greek: i)/thi dê/, kai\ to\ en tô=| polemei=n be/ltion kai\ to\ en

tô=| ei)rê/nên a)/gein, tou=to to\ be/ltion ti/ o)noma/zeis? ô(/sper

e)kei= e)ph' e)ka/stô| e)/leges to\ a)/meinon, o(/ti mousikô/teron,

kai\ e)pi\ tô=| e(terô|, o(/ti gumnastikô/teron; peirô= dê\ kai\

e)ntau=tha le/gein to\ be/ltion . . . . . pro\s ti/ teinei to\ e)n

tô=| ei)rê/nên te a)/gein a)/meinon kai\ to\ e)n tô=| polemei=n oi(=s

dei=?] _Alkib._ [Greek: A)lla\ skopô=n ou) du/namai

e)nnoê=sai.]]

[Side-note: How, or from whom, has Alkibiades learnt to discern

or distinguish Just and Unjust? He never learnt it from any one; he

always knew it, even as a boy.]

_Sokr._--How is this? How do you know, or where have you learnt,

to distinguish just from unjust? Have you frequented some master,

without my knowledge, to teach you this? If you have, pray introduce

me to him, that I also may learn it from him. _Alk._--You are

jesting. _Sokr._--Not at all: I love you too well to jest.

_Alk._--But what if I had no master? Cannot I know about justice

and injustice, without a master? _Sokr._--Certainly: you might

find out for yourself, if you made search and investigated. But this

you would not do, unless you were under the persuasion that you did

not already know. _Alk._--Was there not a time when I really

believed myself not to know it? _Sokr._--Perhaps there may have

been: tell me _when_ that time was. Was it last year?

_Alk._--No: last year I thought that I knew. _Sokr._--Well,

then two years, three years, &c., ago? _Alk._--No: the case

was the same then, also, I thought that I knew. _Sokr._--But

before that, you were a mere boy; and during your boyhood you

certainly believed yourself to know what was just and unjust; for I

well recollect hearing you then complain confidently of other boys,

for acting unjustly towards you. _Alk._--Certainly: I was not

then ignorant on the point: I knew distinctly that they were acting

unjustly towards me. _Sokr._--You knew, then, even in your

boyhood, what was just and what was unjust? _Alk._--Certainly: I

knew even then. _Sokr._--At what moment did you first find it

out? Not when you already believed yourself to know: and what time

was there when you did not believe yourself to know?

_Alk._--Upon my word, I cannot say.

[Side-note: Answer amended. Alkibiades learnt it from the

multitude, as he learnt to speak Greek.--The multitude cannot teach

just and unjust, for they are at variance among themselves about it.

Alkibiades is going to advise the Athenians about what he does not

know himself.]

_Sokr._--Since, accordingly, you neither found it out for

yourself, nor learnt it from others, how come you to know justice or

injustice at all, or from what quarter? _Alk._--I was mistaken

in saying that I had not learnt it. I learnt it, as others do, from

the multitude.[4] _Sokr._--Your teachers are none of the best:

no one can learn from them even such small matters as playing at

draughts: much less, what is just and unjust. _Alk._--I learnt

it from them as I learnt to speak Greek, in which, too, I never had

any special teacher. _Sokr._--Of that the multitude are

competent teachers, for they are all of one mind. Ask which is a tree

or a stone,--a horse or a man,--you get the same answer from every

one. But when you ask not simply which are _horses_, but also

which horses are fit to run well in a race--when you ask not merely

about which are _men_, but which men are healthy or unhealthy--are

the multitude all of one mind, or all competent to answer?

_Alk._--Assuredly not. _Sokr._--When you see the multitude

differing among themselves, that is a clear proof that they are not

competent to teach others. _Alk._--It is so. _Sokr._--Now,

about the question, What is just and unjust--are the multitude all of

one mind, or do they differ among themselves? _Alk._--They

differ prodigiously: they not only dispute, but quarrel and destroy

each other, respecting justice and injustice, far more than about

health and sickness.[5] _Sokr._ How, then, can we say that the

multitude know what is just and unjust, when they thus fiercely

dispute about it among themselves? _Alk._--I now perceive that

we cannot say so. _Sokr._--How can we say, therefore, that

they are fit to teach others: and how can you pretend to know, who

have learnt from no other teachers? _Alk._--From what you say,

it is impossible.

[Footnote 4: Plato, Alkib. i. 110 D-E. [Greek: e)/mathon, oi)=mai,

kai\ e)gô\ ô(/sper kai\ oi( a)/lloi . . . . para\ tô=n pollô=n.]]

[Footnote 5: Plato, Alkib. i. 112 A. _Sokr._ [Greek: Ti/ de\

dê\? nu=n peri\ tô=n dikai/ôn kai\ a)di/kôn a)nthrô/pôn kai\

pragma/tôn, oi( polloi\ dokou=si/ soi o(mologei=n au)toi\ e(autoi=s

ê)\ a)llê/lois?] _Alkib._ [Greek: Ê(/kista, nê\ Di/', ô)=

Sô/krates.] _Sokr._ [Greek: Ti/ de/? ma/lista peri\ au)tô=n

diaphe/resthai?] _Alkib._ [Greek: polu/ ge.]]

_Sokr._--No: not from what _I_ say, but from what

_you_ say yourself. I merely ask questions: it is you who give

all the answers.[6] And what you have said amounts to this--that

Alkibiades knows nothing about what is just and unjust, but believes

himself to know, and is going to advise the Athenians about what he

does not know himself?

[Footnote 6: Plato, Alkib. i. 112-113.]

[Side-note: Answer farther amended. The Athenians do not

generally debate about just or unjust--which they consider plain to

every one--but about expedient and inexpedient, which are not

coincident with just and unjust. But neither does Alkibiades know the

expedient. He asks Sokrates to explain. Sokrates declines: he can do

nothing but question.]

_Alk._--But, Sokrates, the Athenians do not often debate about

what is just and unjust. They think that question self-evident; they

debate generally about what is expedient or not expedient. Justice

and expediency do not do not always coincide. Many persons commit

great crimes, and are great gainers by doing so: others again behave

justly, and suffer from it.[7] _Sokr_--Do you then profess to

know what is expedient or inexpedient? From whom have you learnt--or

when did you find out for yourself? I might ask you the same round of

questions, and you would be compelled to answer in the same manner.

But we will pass to a different point. You say that justice and

expediency are not coincident. Persuade _me_ of this, by

interrogating me as I interrogated you. _Alk._--That is beyond

my power. _Sokr._--But when you rise to address the assembly,

you will have to persuade _them_. If you can persuade them, you

can persuade me. Assume _me_ to be the assembly, and practise

upon me.[8] _Alk._--You are too hard upon me, Sokrates. It is

for you to speak and prove the point. _Sokr_--No: I can only

question: you must answer. You will be most surely persuaded when the

point is determined by your own answers.[9]

[Footnote 7: Plato, Alkib. i. 113 D. [Greek: Oi)=mai me\n o)liga/kis

A)thênai/ous bouleu/esthai po/tera dikaio/tera ê)\ a)dikôtera; ta\

me\n ga\r toiau=ta ê(gou=ntai dê=la ei)=nai], &c.]

[Footnote 8: Plato, Alkib. i. 114 B-C. This same argument is

addressed by Sokrates to Glaukon, in Xenoph. Memor. iii. 6, 14-15.]

[Footnote 9: Plato, Alkib. i. 114 E.

[Greek: Ou)kou=n ei) le/geis o(/ti tau=th' ou(/tôs e)/chei, ma/list'

a)\n ei)/ês pepeisme/nos?]]

[Side-note: Comment on the preceding--Sokratic method--the

respondent makes the discoveries for himself.]

Such is the commencing portion (abbreviated or abstracted) of

Plato's First Alkibiadês. It exhibits a very characteristic specimen

of the Sokratico-Platonic method: both in its negative and positive

aspect. By the negative, false persuasion of knowledge is exposed.

Alkibiades believes himself competent to advise about just and

unjust, which he has neither learnt from any teacher nor investigated

for himself--which he has picked up from the multitude, and supposes

to be clear to every one, but about which nevertheless there is so

much difference of appreciation among the multitude, that fierce and

perpetual quarrels are going on. On the positive side, Sokrates

restricts himself to the function of questioning: he neither affirms

nor denies any thing. It is Alkibiades who affirms or denies every

thing, and who makes all the discoveries for himself out of his own

mind, instigated indeed, but not taught, by the questions of his

companion.

[Side-note: Alkibiades is brought to admit that whatever is

just, is good, honourable, expedient: and that whoever acts

honourably, both does well, and procures for himself happiness

thereby. Equivocal reasoning of Sokrates.]

By a farther series of questions, Sokrates next brings Alkibiades to

the admission that what is just, is also honourable, good,

expedient--what is unjust, is dishonourable, evil, inexpedient: and

that whoever acts justly, and honourably, thereby acquires happiness.

Admitting, first, that an act which is good, honourable, just,

expedient, &c., considered in one aspect or in reference to some

of its conditions--may be at the same time bad, dishonourable,

unjust, considered in another aspect or in reference to other

conditions; Sokrates nevertheless brings his respondent to admit,

that every act, _in so far as it is just and honourable_, is

also good and expedient.[10] And he contends farther, that whoever

acts honourably, does well: now every man who does well, becomes

happy, or secures good things thereby: therefore the just, the

honourable, and the good or expedient, coincide.[11] The argument,

whereby this conclusion is here established, is pointed out by

Heindorf, Stallbaum, and Steinhart, as not merely inconclusive, but

as mere verbal equivocation and sophistry--the like of which,

however, we find elsewhere in Plato.[12]

[Footnote 10: Plato, Alkib. i. 115 B--116 A.

[Greek: Ou)kou=n tê\n toiau/tên boêthei/an kalê\n me\n le/geis kata\

tê\n e)pichei/rêsin tou= sô=sai ou(=s e)/dei; tou=to d' e)sti\n

a)ndri/a; . . . . kakê\n de/ ge kata\ tou\s thana/tous te kai\ ta\

e(/lkê. . . .

Ou)kou=n ô(=de di/kaion prosagoreu/ein e(ka/stên tô=n pra/xeôn;

ei)/per ê)=| kako\n a)perga/zetai kakê\n kalei=s, kai\ ê)=| a)gatho\n

a)gathê\n klête/on.

A)r' ou)=n kai\ ê)=| a)gatho\n kalo/n,--ê)=| de\ kako\n ai)schro/n?

Nai/.]

Compare Plato, Republic, v. p. 479, where he maintains that in every

particular case, what is just, honourable, virtuous, &c., is also

unjust, dishonourable, vicious, &c. Nothing remains unchanged,

nor excludes the contrary, except the pure, self-existent, Idea or

general Concept.--[Greek: au)to\-dikaiosu/nê], &c.]

[Footnote 11: Plato, Alkib. i. 116 E.]

[Footnote 12: The words [Greek: eu)= pra/ttein--eu)pragi/a] have a

double sense, like our "doing well". Stallbaum, Proleg. p. 175;

Steinhart, Einl. p. 149.

We have, p. 116 B, the equivocation between [Greek: kalô=s pra/ttein]

and [Greek: eu)= pra/ttein], also with [Greek: kakô=s pra/ttein], p.

134 A, 135 A; compare Heindorf ad Platon. Charmid. p. 172 A, p. 174

B; also Platon. Gorgias, p. 507 C, where similar equivocal meanings

occur.]

[Side-note: Humiliation of Alkibiades. Other Athenian statesmen

are equally ignorant. But the real opponents, against whom Alkibiades

is to measure himself, are, the kings of Sparta and Persia.

Eulogistic description of those kings. To match them, Alkibiades must

make himself as good as possible.]

Alkibiades is thus reduced to a state of humiliating embarrassment,

and stands convicted, by his own contradictions and confession, of

ignorance in its worst form: that is, of being ignorant, and yet

believing himself to know.[13] But other Athenian statesmen are no

wiser. Even Perikles is proved to be equally deficient--by the fact

that he has never been able to teach or improve any one else, not

even his own sons and those whom he loved best.[14] "At any rate"

(contends Alkibiades) "I am as good as my competitors, and can hold

my ground against them." But Sokrates reminds him that the real

competitors with whom he ought to compare himself, are foreigners,

liable to become the enemies of Athens, and against whom he, if he

pretends to lead Athens, must be able to contend. In an harangue of

unusual length, Sokrates shows that the kings of Sparta and Persia

are of nobler breed, as well as more highly and carefully trained,

than the Athenian statesmen.[15] Alkibiades must be rescued from his

present ignorance, and exalted, so as to be capable of competing with

these kings: which object cannot be attained except through the

auxiliary interposition of Sokrates. Not that Sokrates professes to

be himself already on this elevation, and to stand in need of no

farther improvement. But he can, nevertheless, help others to attain

it for themselves, through the discipline and stimulus of his

interrogatories.[16]

[Footnote 13: Plato, Alkib. i. p. 118.]

[Footnote 14: Plato, Alkib. i. p. 118-119.]

[Footnote 15: Plato, Alkib. i. p. 120-124.]

[Footnote 16: Plato, Alkib. i. p. 124.]

[Side-note: But good--for what end, and under what

circumstances? Abundant illustrative examples.]

The dialogue then continues. _Sokr._--We wish to become as good

as possible. But in what sort of virtue? _Alk._--In that virtue

which belongs to good men. _Sokr._--Yes, but _good_, in

what matters? _Alk._--Evidently, to men who are good in

transacting business. _Sokr._--Ay, but what kind of business?

business relating to horses, or to navigation? If that be meant, we

must go and consult horse-trainers or mariners? _Alk._--No, I

mean such business as is transacted by the most esteemed leaders in

Athens. _Sokr._--You mean the intelligent men. Every man is

good, in reference to that which he understands: every man is bad, in

reference to that which he does not understand. _Alk._--Of

course. _Sokr._--The cobbler understands shoemaking, and is

therefore good at _that_: he does not understand weaving, and is

therefore bad at that. The same man thus, in your view, will be both

good and bad?[17] _Alk._--No: that cannot be. _Sokr._--Whom

then do you mean, when you talk of _the good_? _Alk._--I mean

those who are competent to command in the city. _Sokr._--But

to command whom or what--horses or men? _Alk._--To command

men. _Sokr._--But what men, and under what circumstances? sick

men, or men on shipboard, or labourers engaged in harvesting, or in

what occupations? _Alk._--I mean, men living in social and

commercial relation with each other, as we live here; men who live in

common possession of the same laws and government. _Sokr._--When

men are in communion of a sea voyage and of the same ship, how do we

name the art of commanding them, and to what purpose does it tend?

_Alk._--It is the art of the pilot; and the purpose towards which

it tends, is, bringing them safely through the dangers of the sea.

_Sokr._--When men are in social and political communion, to what

purpose does the art of commanding them tend? _Alk._--Towards

the better preservation and administration of the city.[18]

_Sokr._--But what do you mean by _better_? What is that,

the presence or absence of which makes _better_ or _worse_?

If in regard to the management of the body, you put to me the

same question, I should reply, that it is the presence of health, and

the absence of disease. What reply will you make, in the case of the

city? _Alk._--I should say, when friendship and unanimity among

the citizens are present, and when discord and antipathy are absent.

_Sokr._--This unanimity, of what nature is it? Respecting what

subject? What is the art or science for realising it? If I ask you

what brings about unanimity respecting numbers and measures, you will

say the arithmetical and the metrêtic art. _Alk._--I mean that

friendship and unanimity which prevails between near relatives,

father and son, husband and wife. _Sokr._--But how can there be

unanimity between any two persons, respecting subjects which one of

them knows, and the other does not know? For example, about spinning

and weaving, which the husband does not know, or about military

duties, which the wife does not know, how can there be unanimity

between the two? _Alk._--No: there cannot be. _Sokr._--Nor

friendship, if unanimity and friendship go together?

_Alk._--Apparently there cannot. _Sokr._--Then when men and women

each perform their own special duties, there can be no friendship

between them. Nor can a city be well administered, when each citizen

performs his own special duties? or (which is the same thing) when

each citizen acts justly? _Alk._--Not so: I think there may be

friendship, when each person performs his or her own business.

_Sokr._--Just now you said the reverse. What is this friendship

or unanimity which we must understand and realise, in order to become

good men?

[Footnote 17: Plato, Alkib. i. p. 125 B.

[Greek: O( au)to\s a)/ra tou/tô| ge tô=| lo/gô| kako/s te kai\

a)gatho/s.]

Plato slides unconsciously here, as in other parts of his reasonings,

_à dicto secundum quid, ad dictum simpliciter_.]

[Footnote 18: Plato, Alkib. i. p. 126 A. [Greek: ti/ de/? ê)\n su\

kalei=s eu)bouli/an, ei)s ti/ e)stin?] _Alk._ [Greek: Ei)s to\

a)/meinon tê\n po/lin dioikei=n kai\ sô/zesthai.] _Sokr._

[Greek: A)meinon de\ dioikei=tai kai\ sô/zetai ti/nos paragignome/nou

ê)\ a)pogignomenou?]]

[Side-note: Alkibiades, puzzled and humiliated, confesses his

ignorance. Encouragement given by Sokrates. It is an advantage to

make such discovery in youth.]

_Alk._--In truth, I am puzzled myself to say. I find myself in a

state of disgraceful ignorance, of which I had no previous suspicion.

_Sokr._--Do not be discouraged. If you had made this discovery

when you were fifty years old, it would have been too late for taking

care of yourself and applying a remedy: but at your age, it is the

right time for making the discovery. _Alk._--What am I to do,

now that I have made it? _Sokr._--You must answer my questions.

If my auguries are just, we shall soon be both of us better for the

process.[19]

[Footnote 19: Plato, Alkib. i. 127 D-E. _Alk._ [Greek: A)lla\

ma\ tou\s theou/s, ou)d' au)to\s oi)=da o(/ ti le/gô, kinduneu/ô de\

kai\ pa/lai lelêthe/nai e)mauto\n ai)/schist' e)/chôn.]

_Sokr._ [Greek: A)lla\ chrê\ thar)r(ei=n; ei) me\n ga\r au)to\

ê)=|sthou peponthô\s pentêkontae/tês, chalepo\n a)\n ê)=n soi

e)pimelêthê=nai sautou=; nu=n de\ ê)\n e)/cheis ê(liki/an, au)/tê

e)sti/n, e)n ê(=| dei= au)to\ ai)sthe/sthai.]

_Alk._ [Greek: Ti/ ou)=n to\n ai(stho/menon chrê\ poiei=n?]

_Sokr._ [Greek: _A)pokri/nesthai ta\ e)rôtô/mena_, kai\

e)a\n tou=to poiê=|s, a)\n theo\s e)the/lê|, ei)/ ti dei= kai\ tê=|

e)mê=| mantei/a| pisteu/ein, su/ te ka)gô\ beltio/nôs schê/somen.]]

[Side-note: Platonic Dialectic--its actual effect--its

anticipated effect--applicable to the season of youth.]

Here we have again, brought into prominent relief, the dialectic

method of Plato, under two distinct aspects: 1. Its actual effects,

in exposing the false supposition of knowledge, in forcing upon the

respondent the humiliating conviction, that he does not know familiar

topics which he supposed to be clear both to himself and to others.

2. Its anticipated effects, if continued, in remedying such defect:

and in generating out of the mind of the respondent, real and living

knowledge. Lastly, it is plainly intimated that this shock of

humiliation and mistrust, painful but inevitable, must be undergone

in youth.

[Side-note: Know Thyself--Delphian maxim--its urgent

importance--What is myself? My mind is myself.]

The dialogue continues, in short questions and answers, of which the

following is an abstract. _Sokr._--What is meant by a man

_taking care of himself_? Before I can take care of myself, I

must know what myself is: I must _know myself_, according to the

Delphian motto. I cannot make myself better, without knowing what

_myself_ is.[20] That which belongs to me is not _myself_:

my body is not myself, but an instrument governed by myself.[21] My

mind or soul only, is myself. To take care of myself is, to take care

of my mind. At any rate, if this be not strictly true,[22] my mind is

the most important and dominant element within me. The physician who

knows his own body, does not for that reason know himself: much less

do the husbandman or the tradesman, who know their own properties or

crafts, know themselves, or perform what is truly their own business.

[Footnote 20: Plato, Alkib. i. 129 B. [Greek: ti/n' a)\n tro/pon

eu(rethei/ê _au)to\ to\ au)to/_?]]

[Footnote 21: Plato, Alkib. i. 128-130. All this is greatly expanded

in the dialogue--p. 128 D: [Greek: Ou)k a)/ra o)/tan tô=n sautou=

e)pimelê=|, sautou= e)pime/lei?] This same antithesis is employed by

Isokrates, De Permutatione, sect. 309, p. 492, Bekker. He recommends

[Greek: au)tou= pro/teron ê)\ tô=n au)tou= poiei=sthai tê\n

e)pime/leian].]

[Footnote 22: Plato considers this point to be not clearly made out.

Alkib. i. 130.]

[Side-note: I cannot know myself, except by looking into

another mind. Self-knowledge is temperance. Temperance and Justice

are the conditions both of happiness and of freedom.]

Since temperance consists in self-knowledge, neither of these

professional men, as such, is temperate: their professions are of a

vulgar cast, and do not belong to the virtuous life.[23] How are

we to know our own minds? We know it by looking into another mind,

and into the most rational and divine portion thereof: just as the

eye can only know itself by looking into another eye, and seeing

itself therein reflected.[24] It is only in this way that we can come

to know ourselves, or become temperate: and if we do not know

ourselves, we cannot even know what belongs to ourselves, or what

belongs to others: all these are branches of one and the same

cognition. We can have no knowledge of affairs, either public or

private: we shall go wrong, and shall be unable to secure happiness

either for ourselves or for others. It is not wealth or power which

are the conditions of happiness, but justice and temperance. Both for

ourselves individually, and for the public collectively, we ought to

aim at justice and temperance, not at wealth and power. The evil and

unjust man ought to have no power, but to be the slave of those who

are better than himself.[25] He is fit for nothing but to be a slave:

none deserve freedom except the virtuous.

[Footnote 23: Plato, Alkib. i. 131 B.]

[Footnote 24: Plato, Alkib. i. 133.]

[Footnote 25: Plato, Alkib. i. 134-135 B-C.

[Greek: Pri\n de/ ge a)retê\n e)/chein, to\ a)/rchesthai a)/meinon

u(po\ tou= belti/onos ê)\ to\ a)/rchein a)ndri\, ou) mo/non paidi/

. . . . Pre/pei a)/ra tô=| kakô=| douleu/ein; a)/meinon ga/r.]]

[Side-note: Alkibiades feels himself unworthy to be free, and

declares that he will never quit Sokrates.]

_Sokr._--How do you feel your own condition now, Alkibiades. Are

you worthy of freedom? _Alk._--I feel but too keenly that I am

not. I cannot emerge from this degradation except by your society and

help. From this time forward I shall never leave you.[26]

[Footnote 26: Plato, Alkib. i. 135.]

ALKIBIADES II.

[Side-note: Second Alkibiades--situation supposed.]

The other Platonic dialogue, termed the Second Alkibiades, introduces

Alkibiades as about to offer prayer and sacrifice to the Gods.

[Side-note: Danger of mistake in praying to the Gods for gifts

which may prove mischievous. Most men are unwise. Unwise is the

generic word: madmen, a particular variety under it.]

_Sokr._--You seem absorbed in thought, Alkibiades, and not

unreasonably. In supplicating the Gods, caution is required not to

pray for gifts which are really mischievous. The Gods sometimes grant

men's prayers, even when ruinously destructive; as they granted

the prayers of Oedipus, to the destruction of his own sons.

_Alk._--Oedipus was mad: what man in his senses would put up

such a prayer? _Sokr._--You think that madness is the opposite

of good sense or wisdom. You recognise men wise and unwise: and you

farther admit that every man must be one or other of the two,--just

as every man must be either healthy or sick: there is no third

alternative possible? _Alk._--I think so. _Sokr._--But each

thing can have but one opposite:[27] to be unwise, and to be mad, are

therefore identical? _Alk._--They are. _Sokr._--Wise men

are only few, the majority of our citizens are unwise: but do you

really think them mad? How could any of us live safely in the society

of so many mad-men? _Alk._--No: it cannot be so: I was mistaken.

_Sokr._--Here is the illustration of your mistake. All men who

have gout, or fever, or ophthalmia are sick; but all sick men have

not gout, or fever, or ophthalmia. So, too, all carpenters, or

shoemakers, or sculptors, are craftsmen; but all craftsmen are not

carpenters, or shoemakers, or sculptors. In like manner, all mad men

are unwise; but all unwise men are not mad. _Unwise_ comprises

many varieties and gradations of which the extreme is, being mad: but

these varieties are different among themselves, as one disease

differs from another, though all agree in being disease and one art

differs from another, though all agree in being art.[28]

[Footnote 27: Plato, Alkib. ii. p. 139 B.

[Greek: Kai\ mê\n du/o ge u(penanti/a e(ni\ pra/gmati pô=s a)\n

ei)/ê?]

That each thing has one opposite, and no more, is asserted in the

Protagoras also, p. 192-193.]

[Footnote 28: Plato, Alkib. ii. p. 139-140 A-B.

[Greek: Kai\ ga\r oi( pure/ttontes pa/ntes nosou=sin, ou) me/nntoioi(

nosou=ntes pa/ntes pure/ttousin ou)de\ podagrô=sin ou)de/ ge

o)phthalmiô=sin; a)lla\ no/sos me\n pa=n to\ toiou=to/n e)sti,

diaphe/rein de/ phasin ou(\s dê\ kalou=men i)atros tê\n a)pergasi/an

au)tô=n; ou) ga\r pa=sai ou)/te o(/moiai ou)/te o(moi/ôs

diapra/ttontai, a)lla\ kata\ tê\n au)tê=s du/namin e(ka/stê.]]

[Side-note: Relation between a generic term, and the specific

terms comprehended under it, was not then familiar.]

(We may remark that Plato here, as in the Euthyphron, brings under

especial notice one of the most important distinctions in formal

logic--that between a generic between a term and the various specific

terms comprehended under it. Possessing as yet no technical language

for characterising this distinction, he makes it understood by an

induction of several separate but analogous cases. Because the

distinction is familiar now to instructed men, we must not suppose

that it was familiar then.)

[Side-note: Frequent cases, in which men pray for supposed

benefits, and find that when obtained, they are misfortunes. Every

one fancies that he knows what is beneficial: mischiefs of

ignorance.]

_Sokr._--Whom do you call wise and unwise? Is not the wise man,

he who knows what it is proper to say and do--and the unwise man, he

who does not know? _Alk._--Yes. _Sokr._--The unwise man

will thus often unconsciously say or do what ought not to be said or

done? Though not mad like Oedipus, he will nevertheless pray to the

Gods for gifts, which will be hurtful to him if obtained. You, for

example, would be overjoyed if the Gods were to promise that you

should become despot not only over Athens, but also over Greece.

_Alk._--Doubtless I should: and every one else would feel as I

do. _Sokr._--But what if you were to purchase it with your life,

or to damage yourself by the employment of it? _Alk._--Not on

those conditions.[29] _Sokr._--But you are aware that many

ambitious aspirants, both at Athens and elsewhere (among them, the

man who just now killed the Macedonian King Archelaus, and usurped

his throne), have acquired power and aggrandisement, so as to be

envied by every one: yet have presently found themselves brought to

ruin and death by the acquisition. So, also, many persons pray that

they may become fathers; but discover presently that their children

are the source of so much grief to them, that they wish themselves

again childless. Nevertheless, though such reverses are perpetually

happening, every one is still not only eager to obtain these supposed

benefits, but importunate with the Gods in asking for them. You see

that it is not safe even to accept without reflection boons offered

to you, much less to pray for boons to be conferred.[30] _Alk._--I

see now how much mischief ignorance produces. Every one thinks

himself competent to pray for what is beneficial to himself; but

ignorance makes him unconsciously imprecate mischief on his own head.

[Footnote 29: Plato, Alkib. ii. p. 141.]

[Footnote 30: Plato, Alkib. ii. p. 141-142.]

[Side-note: Mistake in predications about ignorance generally.

We must discriminate. Ignorance of _what?_ Ignorance of good, is

always mischievous: ignorance of other things, not always.]

_Sokr._--You ought not to denounce ignorance in this unqualified

manner. You must distinguish and specify. Ignorance of what? and

under what modifications of persons and circumstances? _Alk._--How?

Are there _any_ matters or circumstances in which it is

better for a man to be ignorant, than to know? _Sokr._--You will

see that there are such. Ignorance of good, or ignorance of what is

best, is always mischievous: moreover, assuming that a man knows what

is best, then all other knowledge will be profitable to him. In his

special case, ignorance on any subject cannot be otherwise than

hurtful. But if a man be ignorant things of good, or of what is best,

in his case knowledge on other subjects will be more often hurtful

than profitable. To a man like Orestes, so misguided on the question,

"What is good?" as to resolve to kill his mother, it would be a real

benefit, if for the time he did not know his mother. Ignorance on

that point, in his state of mind, would be better for him than

knowledge.[31] _Alk._--It appears so.

[Footnote 31: Plato, Alkib. ii. p. 144.]

[Side-note: Wise public counsellors are few. Upon what ground

do we call these few wise? Not because they possess merely special

arts or accomplishments, but because they know besides, upon what

occasions and under what limits each of these accomplishments ought

to be used.]

_Sokr._--Follow the argument farther. When we come forward to

say or do any thing, we either know what we are about to say and do,

or at least believe ourselves to know it. Every statesman who gives

counsel to the public, does so in the faith of such knowledge. Most

citizens are unwise, and ignorant of good as well as of other things.

The wise are but few, and by their advice the city is conducted. Now

upon what ground do we call these few, wise and useful public

counsellors? If a statesman knows war, but does not know whether it

is best to go to war, or at what juncture it is best--should we call

him wise? If he knows how to kill men, or dispossess them, or drive

them into exile,--but does not know upon whom, or on what occasions,

it is good to inflict this treatment--is he a useful counsellor? If

he can ride, or shoot, or wrestle, well,--we give him an epithet

derived from this special accomplishment: we do not call him wise.

What would be the condition of a community composed of bowmen,

horsemen, wrestlers, rhetors, &c., accomplished and excellent

each in his own particular craft, yet none of them knowing what is

good, nor when, nor on what occasions, it is good to employ their

craft? When each man pushes forward his own art and speciality,

without any knowledge whether it is good on the whole either for

himself or for the city, will not affairs thus conducted be reckless

and disastrous?[32] _Alk._--They will be very bad indeed.

[Footnote 32: Plato, Alkib. ii. p. 145.]

[Side-note: Special accomplishments, without the knowledge of

the good or profitable, are oftener hurtful than beneficial.]

_Sokr._--If, then, a man has no knowledge of good or of the

better--if upon this cardinal point he obeys fancy without

reason--the possession of knowledge upon special subjects will be

oftener hurtful than profitable to him; because it will make him more

forward in action, without any good result. Possessing many arts and

accomplishments, and prosecuting one after another, but without the

knowledge of good,--he will only fall into greater trouble, like a

ship sailing without a pilot. Knowledge of good is, in other words,

knowledge of what is useful and profitable. In conjunction with this,

all other knowledge is valuable, and goes to increase a man's

competence as a counsellor: apart from this, all other knowledge will

not render a man competent as a counsellor, but will be more

frequently hurtful than beneficial.[33] Towards right living, what we

need is, the knowledge of good: just as the sick stand in need of a

physician, and the ship's crew of a pilot. _Alk._--I admit your

reasoning. My opinion is changed. I no longer believe myself

competent to determine what I ought to accept from the Gods, or what

I ought to pray for. I incur serious danger of erring, and of asking

for mischiefs, under the belief that they are benefits.

[Footnote 33: Plato, Alkib. ii. 145 C:

[Greek: O(/stis a)/ra ti tô=n toiou/tôn oi)=den, e)a\n me\n

pare/pêtai au)tô=| ê( _tou= belti/stou e)pistê/mê--au(/tê d' ê)=n

ê( au)tê\ dê/pou ê(/per kai\ ê( tou= ô)pheli/mou_--phro/nimo/n ge

au)to\n phê/somen kai\ a)pochrô=nta xu/mboulou kai\ tê=| po/lei kai\

au)to\n au(tô=|; to\n de\ mê\ toiou=ton, ta)nanti/a tou/tôn.]

([Greek: Touou=ton] is Schneider's emendation for [Greek:

poiou=nta].) Ibid. 146 C: [Greek: Ou)kou=n phame\n pa/lin tou\s

pollou\s diêmartêke/nai tou= belti/stou, ô(s ta\ polla/ ge, oi)=mai,

a)/neu nou= do/xê| pepisteuko/tas?] Ibid. 146 E: [Greek: O(ra=|s

ou)=n, o(/te g' e)/phên kinduneu/ein to/ ge tô=n a)/llôn e)pistêmô=n

ktê=ma, e)a/n tis a)/neu tê=s tou= belti/stou e)pistê/mês kektême/nos

ê)=|, o)liga/kis me\n ô)phelei=n bla/ptein de\ ta\ plei/ô ton

e)/chont' au)to/.] Ibid. 147 A: [Greek: O( de\ dê\ tê\n kaloume/nên

poluma/theia/n te kai\ polutechni/an kektême/nos, o)rphano\s de\ ô)\n

tau/tês tê=s e)pistê/mês, a)go/menos de\ u(po\ mia=s e(ka/stês tô=n

a)/llôn, a)=r' ou)chi\ tô=| o)/nti dikai/ôs pollô=| cheimô=ni

chrê/setai, a(/t', oi)=mai, a)/neu kubernê/tou diatelô=n e)n

pela/gei], &c.]

[Side-note: It is unsafe for Alkibiades to proceed with his

sacrifice, until he has learnt what is the proper language to address

to the Gods. He renounces his sacrifice, and throws himself upon the

counsel of Sokrates.]

_Sokr._--The Lacedæmonians, when they offer sacrifice, pray

simply that they may obtain what is honourable and good, without

farther specification. This language is acceptable to the Gods,

more acceptable than the costly festivals of Athens. It has procured

for the Spartans more continued prosperity than the Athenians have

enjoyed.[34] The Gods honour wise and just men, that is, men who know

what they ought to say and do both towards Gods and towards men--more

than numerous and splendid offerings.[35] You see, therefore, that it

is not safe for you to proceed with your sacrifice, until you have

learnt what is the proper language to be used, and what are the

really good gifts to be prayed for. Otherwise your sacrifice will not

prove acceptable, and you may even bring upon yourself positive

mischief.[36] _Alk._--When shall I be able to learn this, and

who is there to teach me? I shall be delighted to meet him.

_Sokr._--There is a person at hand most anxious for your

improvement. What he must do is, first to disperse the darkness from

your mind, next, to impart that which will teach you to discriminate

evil from good, which at present you are unable to do. _Alk._--I

shall shrink from no labour to accomplish this object. Until then, I

postpone my intended sacrifice: and I tender my sacrificial wreath to

you, in gratitude for your counsel.[37] _Sokr._--I accept the

wreath as a welcome augury of future friendship and conversation

between us, to help us out of the present embarrassment.

[Footnote 34: Plato, Alkib. ii. p. 148.]

[Footnote 35: Plato, Alkib. ii. p. 150.]

[Footnote 36: Plato, Alkib. ii. p. 150.]

[Footnote 37: Plato, Alkib. ii. p. 151.]

* * * * *

[Side-note: Different critical opinions respecting these two

dialogues.]

The two dialogues, called First and Second Alkibiadês, of which I

have just given some account, resemble each other more than most of

the Platonic dialogues, not merely in the personages introduced, but

in general spirit, in subject, and even in illustrations. The First

Alkibiadês was recognised as authentic by all critics without

exception, until the days of Schleiermacher. Nay, it was not only

recognised, but extolled as one of the most valuable and important of

all the Platonic compositions; proper to be studied first, as a key

to all the rest. Such was the view of Jamblichus and Proklus,

transmitted to modern times; until it received a harsh contradiction

from Schleiermacher, who declared the dialogue to be both worthless

and spurious. The Second Alkibiadês was also admitted both by

Thrasyllus, and by the general body of critics in ancient times: but

there were some persons (as we learn from Athenæus)[38] who

considered it to be a work of Xenophon; perceiving probably (what is

the fact) that it bears much analogy to several conversations which

Xenophon has set down. But those who held this opinion are not to be

considered as of one mind with critics who reject the dialogue as a

forgery or imitation of Plato. Compositions emanating from Xenophon

are just as much Sokratic, probably even more Sokratic, than the most

unquestioned Platonic dialogues, besides that they must of necessity

be contemporary also. Schleiermacher has gone much farther: declaring

the Second as well as the First to be an unworthy imitation of

Plato.[39]

[Footnote 38: Athenæus, xi. p. 506.]

[Footnote 39: See the Einleitung of Schleiermacher to Alkib. i. part

ii. vol. iii. p. 293 seq. Einleitung to Alkib. ii. part i. vol. ii.

p. 365 seq. His notes on the two dialogues contain various additional

reasons, besides what is urged in his Introduction.]

[Side-note: Grounds for disallowing them--less strong against

the Second than against the First.]

Here Ast agrees with Schleiermacher fully, including both the First

and Second Alkibiades in his large list of the spurious. Most of the

subsequent critics go with Schleiermacher only half-way: Socher,

Hermann, Stallbaum, Steinhart, Susemihl, recognise the First

Alkibiadês, but disallow the Second.[40] In my judgment,

Schleiermacher and Ast are more consistently right, or more

consistently wrong, in rejecting both, than the other critics who

find or make so capital a distinction between the two. The similarity

of tone and topics between the two is obvious, and is indeed admitted

by all. Moreover, if I were compelled to make a choice, I should say

that the grounds for suspicion are rather less strong against the

Second than against the First; and that Schleiermacher, reasoning

upon the objections admitted by his opponents as conclusive against

the Second, would have no difficulty in showing that his own

objections against the First were still more forcible. The long

speech assigned in the First Alkibiadês to Sokrates, about the

privileges of the Spartan and Persian kings,[41] including the

mention of Zoroaster, son of Oromazes, and the Magian religion,

appears to me more unusual with Plato than anything which I find in

the Second Alkibiadês. It is more Xenophontic[42] than Platonic.

[Footnote 40: Socher, Ueber Platon's Schriften, p. 112. Stallbaum,

Prolegg. to Alkib. i. and ii. vol. v. pp. 171-304. K. F. Hermann,

Gesch. und Syst. der Platon. Philos. p. 420-439. Steinhart,

Einleitungen to Alkib. i. and ii. in Hieronymus Müller's Uebersetzung

des Platon's Werke, vol. i. pp. 135-509.]

[Footnote 41: Plato, Alkib. i. p. 121-124.

Whoever reads the objections in Steinhart's Einleitung (p. 148-150)

against the First Alkibiadês, will see that they are quite as

forcible as what he urges against the Second; only, that in the case

of the First, he gives these objections their legitimate bearing,

allowing them to tell against the merit of the dialogue, but not

against its authenticity.]

[Footnote 42: See Xenoph. Oekonom. c. 4; Cyropæd. vii. 5, 58-64,

viii. 1, 5-8-45; Laced. Repub. c. 15.]

[Side-note: The supposed grounds for disallowance are in

reality only marks of inferiority.]

But I must here repeat, that because I find, in this or any other

dialogue, some peculiarities not usual with Plato, I do not feel

warranted thereby in declaring the dialogue spurious. In my judgment,

we must look for a large measure of diversity in the various

dialogues; and I think it an injudicious novelty, introduced by

Schleiermacher, to set up a canonical type of Platonism, all

deviations from which are to be rejected as forgeries. Both the First

and the Second Alkibiadês appear to me genuine, even upon the showing

of those very critics who disallow them. Schleiermacher, Stallbaum,

and Steinhart, all admit that there is in both the dialogues a

considerable proportion of Sokratic and Platonic ideas: but they

maintain that there are also other ideas which are not Sokratic or

Platonic, and that the texture, style, and prolixity of the Second

Alkibiadês (Schleiermacher maintains this about the First also) are

unworthy of Plato. But if we grant these premisses, the reasonable

inference would be, not to disallow it altogether, but to admit it as

a work by Plato, of inferior merit; perhaps of earlier days, before

his powers of composition had attained their maturity. To presume

that because Plato composed many excellent dialogues, therefore all

that he composed must have been excellent, is a pretension formally

disclaimed by many critics, and asserted by none.[42] Steinhart

himself allows that the Second Alkibiadês, though not composed by

Plato, is the work of some other author contemporary, an untrained

Sokratic disciple attempting to imitate Plato.[44] But we do not know

that there were any contemporaries who tried to imitate Plato:

though Theopompus accused him of imitating others, and called most of

his dialogues useless as well as false: while Plato himself, in his

inferior works, will naturally appear like an imitator of his better

self.

[Footnote 43: Stallbaum (Prolegg. ad Alcib. i. p. 186) makes this

general statement very justly, but he as well as other critics are

apt to forget it in particular cases.]

[Footnote 44: Steinhart, Einleitung, p. 516-519. Stallbaum and Boeckh

indeed assign the dialogue to a later period. Heindorf (ad Lysin, p.

211) thinks it the work "antiqui auctoris, sed non Platonis".

Steinhart and others who disallow the authenticity of the Second

Alkibiadês insist much (p. 518) upon the enormity of the

chronological blunder, whereby Sokrates and Alkibiadês are introduced

as talking about the death of Archelaus king of Macedonia, who was

killed in 399 B.C., in the same year as Sokrates, and four

years after Alkibiades. Such an anachronism (Steinhart urges) Plato

could never allow himself to commit. But when we read the Symposion,

we find Aristophanes in a company of which Sokrates, Alkibiades, and

Agathon form a part, alluding to the [Greek: dioi/kisis] of

Mantineia, which took place in 386 B.C. No one has ever made

this glaring anachronism a ground for disallowing the Symposion.

Steinhart says that the style of the Second Alkibiadês copies Plato

too closely (die ängstlich platonisirende Sprache des Dialogs, p.

515), yet he agrees with Stallbaum that in several places it departs

too widely from Plato.]

[Side-note: The two dialogues may probably be among Plato's

earlier compositions.]

I agree with Schleiermacher and the other recent critics in

considering the First and Second Alkibiadês to be inferior in merit

to Plato's best dialogues; and I contend that their own premisses

justify no more. They may probably be among his earlier productions,

though I do not believe that the First Alkibiadês was composed during

the lifetime of Sokrates, as Socher, Steinhart, and Stallbaum

endeavour to show.[45] I have already given my reasons, in a

previous chapter, for believing that Plato composed no dialogues at

all during the lifetime of Sokrates; still less in that of

Alkibiadês, who died four years earlier. There is certainly nothing

in either Alkibiadês I. or II. to shake this belief.

[Footnote 45: Stallbaum refers the composition of Alkib. i. to a time

not long before the accusation of Sokrates, when the enemies of

Sokrates were calumniating him in consequence of his past intimacy

with Alkibiades (who had before that time been killed in 404

B.C.) and when Plato was anxious to defend his master

(Prolegg. p. 186). Socher and Steinhart (p. 210) remark that such

writings would do little good to Sokrates under his accusation. They

place the composition of the dialogue earlier, in 406 B.C.

(Steinhart, p. 151-152), and they consider it the first exercise of

Plato in the strict dialectic method. Both Steinhart and Hermann

(Gesch. Plat. Phil. p. 440) think that the dialogue has not only a

speculative but a political purpose; to warn and amend Alkibiades,

and to prevent him from surrendering himself blindly to the

democracy.

I cannot admit the hypothesis that the dialogue was written in 406

B.C. (when Plato was twenty-one years of age, at most

twenty-two), nor that it had any intended bearing upon the real

historical Alkibiades, who left Athens in 415 B.C. at the

head of the armament against Syracuse, was banished three months

afterwards, and never came back to Athens until May 407 B.C.

(Xenoph. Hellen. i. 4, 13; i. 5, 17). He then enjoyed four months of

great ascendancy at Athens, left it at the head of the fleet to Asia

in Oct. 407 B.C., remained in command of the fleet for about

three months or so, then fell into disgrace and retired to

Chersonese, never revisiting Athens. In 406 B.C. Alkibiades

was again in banishment, out of the reach of all such warnings as

Hermann and Steinhart suppose that Plato intended to address to him

in Alkib. i.

Steinhart says (p. 152), "In dieser Zeit also, _wenige Jahre nach

seiner triumphirenden Rückkehr_, wo Alkibiades," &c. Now

Alkibiades left the Athenian service, irrevocably, within less

_than one year_ after his triumphant return.

Steinhart has not realised in his mind the historical and

chronological conditions of the period.]

[Side-note: Analogy with various dialogues in the Xenophontic

Memorabilia--Purpose of Sokrates to humble presumptuous young men.]

If we compare various colloquies of Sokrates in the Xenophontic

Memorabilia, we shall find Alkibiadês I. and II. very analogous to

them both in purpose and spirit. In Alkibiadês I. the situation

conceived is the same as that of Sokrates and Glaukon, in the third

book of the Memorabilia. Xenophon recounts how the presumptuous

Glaukon, hardly twenty years of age, fancied himself already fit to

play a conspicuous part in public affairs, and tried to force

himself, in spite of rebuffs and humiliations, upon the notice of the

assembly.[46] No remonstrances of friends could deter him, nor could

anything, except the ingenious dialectic of Sokrates, convince him of

his own impertinent forwardness and exaggerated self-estimation.

Probably Plato (Glaukon's elder brother) had heard of this

conversation, but whether the fact be so or not, we see the same

situation idealised by him in Alkibiadês I., and worked out in a way

of his own. Again, we find in the Xenophontic Memorabilia another

colloquy, wherein Sokrates cross-questions, perplexes, and

humiliates, the studious youth Euthydemus,[47] whom he regards as

over-confident in his persuasions and too well satisfied with

himself. It was among the specialties of Sokrates to humiliate

confident young men, with a view to their future improvement. He made

his conversation "an instrument of chastisement," in the language of

Xenophon: or (to use a phrase of Plato himself in the Lysis) he

conceived. "that the proper way of talking to youth whom you love,

was, not to exalt and puff them up, but to subdue and humiliate

them".[48]

[Footnote 46: Xenoph. Memor. iii. 6.]

[Footnote 47: Xenoph. Mem. iv. 2.]

[Footnote 48: Xenoph. Mem. i. 4, 1. [Greek: skepsa/menoi mê\ mo/non

a(\ e)kei=nos] (Sokrates) [Greek: _kolastêri/ou e(/neka _tou/s

pa/nt' oi)ome/nous ei)de/nai e)rôtô=n ê)/legchen, a)lla\ kai\ a(\

le/gôn sunême/reue toi=s sundiatri/bousin], &c. So in the

Platonic Lysis, the youthful Lysis says to Sokrates "Talk to

Menexenus, [Greek: i(/n' au)to\n kola/sê|s]" (Plat. Lysis, 211 B).

And Sokrates himself says, a few lines before (210 E), [Greek: Ou(/tô

chrê\ toi=s paidikoi=s diale/gesthai, tapeinou=nta kai\ suste/llonta,

kai\ mê\ ô(/sper su\ chaunou=nta kai\ diathru/ptonta.]]

[Side-note: Fitness of the name and character of Alkibiades for

idealising this feature in Sokrates.]

If Plato wished to idealise this feature in the character of

Sokrates, no name could be more suitable to his purpose than that of

Alkibiades: who, having possessed as a youth the greatest personal

beauty (to which Sokrates was exquisitely sensible) had become in his

mature life distinguished not less for unprincipled ambition and

insolence, than for energy and ability. We know the real Alkibiadês

both from Thucydides and Xenophon, and we also know that Alkibiades

had in his youth so far frequented the society of Sokrates as to

catch some of that dialectic ingenuity, which the latter was expected

and believed to impart.[49] The contrast, as well as the

companionship, between Sokrates and Alkibiades was eminently

suggestive to the writers of Sokratic dialogues, and nearly all of

them made use of it, composing dialogues in which Alkibiades was the

principal name and figure.[50] It would be surprising indeed if Plato

had never done the same: which is what we must suppose, if we adopt

Schleiermacher's view, that both Alkibiadês I. and II. are spurious.

In the Protagoras as well as in the Symposion, Alkibiades figures;

but in neither of them is he the principal person, or titular hero,

of the piece. In Alkibiadês I. and II., he is introduced as the

solitary respondent to the questions of Sokrates--[Greek: kolastêri/ou

e(/neka]: to receive from Sokrates a lesson of humiliation such as

the Xenophontic Sokrates administers to Glaukon and Euthydemus,

taking care to address the latter when alone.[51]

[Footnote 49: The sensibility of Sokrates to youthful beauty is as

strongly declared in the Xenophontic Memorabilia (i. 3, 8-14), as in

the Platonic Lysis, Charmidês, or Symposion.

The conversation reported by Xenophon between Alkibiades, when not

yet twenty years of age, and his guardian Perikles, the first man in

Athens--wherein Alkibiades puzzles Perikles by a Sokratic

cross-examination--is likely enough to be real, and was probably the

fruit of his sustained society with Sokrates (Xen. Memor. i. 2, 40).]

[Footnote 50: Stallbaum observes (Prolegg. ad Alcib. i. p. 215, 2nd

ed.), "Ceterum etiam Æschines, Euclides, Phædon, et Antisthenes,

dialogos _Alcibiadis_ nomine inscriptos composuisse narrantur".

Respecting the dialogues composed by Æschines, see the first note to

this chapter.]

[Footnote 51: Xenoph. Mem. iv. 2, 8.]

[Side-note: Plato's manner of replying to the accusers of

Sokrates. Magical influence ascribed to the conversation of

Sokrates.]

I conceive Alkibiadês I. and II. as composed by Plato among his

earlier writings (perhaps between 399-390 B.C.)[52] giving

an imaginary picture of the way in which "Sokrates handled every

respondent just as he chose" (to use the literal phrase of

Xenophon[53]): taming even that most overbearing youth, whom

Aristophanes characterises as the lion's whelp.[54] In selecting

Alkibiades as the sufferer under such a chastising process, Plato

rebuts in his own ideal style that charge which Xenophon answers with

prosaic directness--the charge made against Sokrates by his enemies,

that he taught political craft without teaching ethical sobriety; and

that he had encouraged by his training the lawless propensities of

Alkibiades.[55] When Schleiermacher, and others who disallow the

dialogue, argue that the inordinate insolence ascribed to Alkibiades,

and the submissive deference towards Sokrates also ascribed to him,

are incongruous and incompatible attributes,--I reply that such a

conjunction is very improbable in any real character. But this does

not hinder Plato from combining them in one and the same ideal

character, as we shall farther see when we come to the manifestation

of Alkibiades in the Symposion: in which dialogue we find a

combination of the same elements, still more extravagant and

high-coloured. Both here and there we are made to see that Sokrates,

far from encouraging Alkibiades, is the only person who ever succeeded

in humbling him. Plato attributes to the personality and conversation

of Sokrates an influence magical and almost superhuman: which Cicero

and Plutarch, proceeding probably upon the evidence of the Platonic

dialogues, describe as if it were historical fact. They represent

Alkibiades as shedding tears of sorrow and shame, and entreating

Sokrates to rescue him from a sense of degradation insupportably

painful.[56] Now Xenophon mentions Euthydemus and other young men as

having really experienced these profound and distressing

emotions.[56] But he does not at all certify the same about

Alkibiades, whose historical career is altogether adverse to the

hypothesis. The Platonic picture is an _idéal_, drawn from what

may have been actually true about other interlocutors of Sokrates,

and calculated to reply to Melêtus and his allies.

[Footnote 52: The date which I here suppose for the composition of

Alkib. i. (_i.e._ after the death of Sokrates, but early in the

literary career of Plato), is farther sustained (against those

critics who place it in 406 B.C. or 402 B.C. before

the death of Sokrates) by the long discourse (p. 121-124) of Sokrates

about the Persian and Spartan kings. In reference to the Persian

monarchy Sokrates says (p. 123 B), [Greek: e)pei/ pot' e)gô\ ê(/kousa

a)ndro\s a)xiopi/stou tô=n a)nabebêko/tôn para\ basile/a, o(\s e)/phê

parelthei=n chô/ran pa/nu pollê\n kai\ a)gathê/n--ê(\n kalei=n tou\s

e)pichôri/ous zô/nên tê=s basile/ôs gunaiko/s], &c. Olympiodorus

and the Scholiast both suppose that Plato here refers to Xenophon and

the Anabasis, in which a statement very like this is found (i. 4, 9).

It is plain, therefore, that _they_ did not consider the

dialogue to have been composed before the death of Sokrates. I think

it very probable that Plato had in his mind Xenophon (either his

Anabasis, or personal communications with him); but at any rate

visits of Greeks to the Persian court became very numerous between

399-390 B.C., whereas Plato can hardly have seen any such

visitors at Athens in 406 B.C. (before the close of the

war), nor probably in 402 B.C., when Athens, though relieved

from the oligarchy, was still in a state of great public prostration.

Between 399 B.C. and the peace of Antalkidas (387

B.C.), visitors from Greece to the interior of Persia became

more and more frequent, the Persian kings interfering very actively

in Grecian politics. Plato may easily have seen during these years

intelligent Greeks who had been up to the Persian court on military

or political business. Both the Persian kings and the Spartan kings

were then in the maximum of power and ascendancy--it is no wonder

therefore that Sokrates should here be made to dwell upon their

prodigious dignity in his discourse with Alkibiades. Steinhart (Einl.

p. 150) feels the difficulty of reconciling this part of the dialogue

with his hypothesis that it was composed in 406 B.C.: yet he

and Stallbaum both insist that it must have been composed before the

death of Sokrates, for which they really produce no grounds at all.]

[Footnote 53: Xen. Mem. i. 2, 14. [Greek: toi=s de\ dialegome/nois

au)tô=| pa=si chrô/menon e)n toi=s lo/gois o(/pôs bou/loito.]]

[Footnote 54: Aristoph. Ran. 1431. [Greek: ou) chrê\ le/ontos

sku/mnon e)n po/lei tre/phein.] Thucyd. vi. 15. [Greek: phobêthe/ntes

ga\r au)tou=] (Alkib.) [Greek: oi( polloi\ to\ me/gethos tê=s te

kata\ to\ e(autou= sô=ma paranomi/as e)s tê\n di/aitan, kai\ tê=s

dianoi/as ô(=n kath' e(\n e(/kaston, e)n o(/tô| gi/gnoito,

e)/prassen, ô(s turanni/dos e)pithumou=nti pole/mioi kathe/stasan],

&c.]

[Footnote 55: Xenoph. Memorab. i. 2, 17.]

[Footnote 56: Cicero, Tusc. Disp. iii. 32, 77; Plutarch, Alkib. c.

4-6. Compare Plato, Alkib. i. p. 127 D, 135 C; Symposion, p. 215-216.]

[Footnote 57: Xenoph. Memor. iv. 2, 39-40.]

[Side-note: The purpose proclaimed by Sokrates in the Apology

is followed out in Alkib. I. Warfare against the false persuasion of

knowledge.]

Looking at Alkibiadês I. and II. in this point of view, we shall find

them perfectly Sokratic both in topics proclaimed and in

manner--whatever may be said about unnecessary prolixity and common-place

here and there. The leading ideas of Alkibiadês I. may be found,

nearly all, in the Platonic Apology. That warfare, which Sokrates

proclaims in the Apology as having been the mission of his life,

against the false persuasion of knowledge, or against beliefs ethical

and æsthetical, firmly entertained without having been preceded by

conscious study or subjected to serious examination--is exemplified

in Alkibiadês I. and II. as emphatically as in any Platonic

composition. In both these dialogues, indeed (especially in the

first), we find an excessive repetition of specialising

illustrations, often needless and sometimes tiresome: a defect easily

intelligible if we assume them to have been written when Plato was

still a novice in the art of dialogic composition. But both dialogues

are fully impregnated with the spirit of the Sokratic process,

exposing, though with exuberant prolixity, the firm and universal

belief, held and affirmed by every one even at the age of boyhood,

without any assignable grounds or modes of acquisition, and amidst

angry discordance between the affirmation of one man and another. The

emphasis too with which Sokrates insists upon his own single function

of merely questioning, and upon the fact that Alkibiades gives all

the answers and pronounces all the self-condemnation with his own

mouth[58]--is remarkable in this dialogue: as well as the confidence

with which he proclaims the dialogue as affording the only, but

effective, cure.[59] The ignorance of which Alkibiades stands

unexpectedly convicted, is expressly declared to be common to him

with the other Athenian politicians: an exception being half allowed

to pass in favour of the semi-philosophical Perikles, whom Plato

judges here with less severity than elsewhere[60]--and a decided

superiority being claimed for the Spartan and Persian kings, who are

extolled as systematically trained from childhood.

[Footnote 58: Plato, Alkib. i. p. 112-113.]

[Footnote 59: Plato, Alkib. i. p. 127 E.]

[Footnote 60: Plato, Alkib. i. p. 118-120.]

[Side-note: Difficulties multiplied for the purpose of

bringing Alkibiades to a conviction of his own ignorance.]

The main purpose of Sokrates is to drive Alkibiades into

self-contradictions, and to force upon him a painful consciousness of

ignorance and mental defect, upon grave and important subjects, while

he is yet young enough to amend it. Towards this purpose he is made

to lay claim to a divine mission similar to that which the real

Sokrates announces in the Apology[61] A number of perplexing

questions and difficulties are accumulated: it is not meant that

these difficulties are insoluble, but that they cannot be solved by

one who has never seriously reflected on them--by one who (as the

Xenophontic Sokrates says to Euthydemus),[62] is so confident of

knowing the subject that he has never meditated upon it at all. The

disheartened Alkibiades feels the necessity of improving himself and

supplicates the assistance of Sokrates:[63] who reminds him that he

must first determine what "Himself" is. Here again we find ourselves

upon the track of Sokrates in the Platonic Apology, and under the

influence of the memorable inscription at Delphi--_Nosce

teipsum_. Your mind is yourself; your body is a mere instrument of

your mind: your wealth and power are simple appurtenances or

adjuncts. To know yourself, which is genuine Sophrosynê or

temperance, is to know your mind: but this can only be done by

looking into another mind, and into its most intelligent compartment:

just as the eye can only see itself by looking into the centre of

vision of another eye.[64]

[Footnote 61: Plato, Alkib. i. p. 124 C-127 E.]

[Footnote 62: Xenoph. Mem. iv. 2, 36. [Greek: A)lla\ tau=ta me/n,

e)/phê o( Sôkra/tês, i)/sôs, dia\ to\ spho/dra posteu/ein ei)de/nai,

ou)d' e)/skepsai.]]

[Footnote 63: Plato, Alkib. i. p. 128-132 A.]

[Footnote 64: Plato, Alkib. i. p. 133.

A Platonic metaphor, illustrating the necessity for two separate

minds co-operating in dialectic colloquy.]

[Side-note: Sokrates furnishes no means of solving these

difficulties. He exhorts to Justice and Virtue--but these are

acknowledged Incognita.]

At the same time, when, after having convicted Alkibiades of

deplorable ignorance, Sokrates is called upon to prescribe

remedies--all distinctness of indication disappears. It is exacted only

when the purpose is to bring difficulties and contradictions to view:

it is dispensed with, when the purpose is to solve them. The conclusion

is, that assuming happiness as the acknowledged ultimate end,[65]

Alkibiades cannot secure this either for himself or for his city, by

striving for wealth and power, private or public: he can only secure

it by acquiring for himself, and implanting in his country-men,

justice, temperance, and virtue. This is perfectly Sokratic, and

conformable to what is said by the real Sokrates in the Platonic

Apology. But coming at the close of Alkibiadês I., it presents no

meaning and imparts no instruction: because Sokrates had shown in the

earlier part of the dialogue, that neither he himself, nor

Alkibiades, nor the general public, knew what justice and virtue

were. The positive solution which Sokrates professes to give, is

therefore illusory. He throws us back upon those old, familiar,

emotional, associations, unconscious products and unexamined

transmissions from mind to mind--which he had already shown to

represent the fancy of knowledge without the reality--deep-seated

belief without any assignable intellectual basis, or outward standard

of rectitude.

[Footnote 65: Plat. Alkibiad. i. p. 134.]

[Side-note: Prolixity of Alkibiadês I.--Extreme multiplication

of illustrative examples--How explained.]

Throughout the various Platonic dialogues, we find alternately two

distinct and opposite methods of handling--the generalising of the

special, and the specialising of the general. In Alkibiadês I, the

specialising of the general preponderates--as it does in most of the

conversations of the Xenophontic Memorabilia: the number of

exemplifying particulars is unusually great. Sokrates does not accept

as an answer a general term, without illustrating it by several of

the specific terms comprehended under it: and this several times on

occasions when an instructed reader thinks it superfluous and

tiresome: hence, partly, the inclination of some modern critics to

disallow the dialogue. But we must recollect that though a modern

reader practised in the use of general terms may seize the meaning at

once, an Athenian youth of the Platonic age would not be sure of

doing the same. No conscious analysis had yet been applied to general

terms: no grammar or logic then entered into education. Confident

affirmation, without fully knowing the meaning of what is affirmed,

is the besetting sin against which Plato here makes war: and his

precautions for exposing it are pushed to extreme minuteness. So,

too, in the Sophistês and Politikus, when he wishes to illustrate the

process of logical division and subdivision, he applies it to cases

so trifling and so multiplied, that Socher is revolted and rejects

the dialogues altogether. But Plato himself foresees and replies to

the objection; declaring expressly that his main purpose is, not to

expound the particular subject chosen, but to make manifest and

familiar the steps and conditions of the general classifying

process--and that prolixity cannot be avoided.[66] We must reckon upon

a similar purpose in Alkibiadês I. The dialogue is a specimen of that

which Aristotle calls Inductive Dialectic, as distinguished from

Syllogistic: the Inductive he considers to be plainer and easier,

suitable when you have an ordinary collocutor--the Syllogistic is the

more cogent, when you are dealing with a practised disputant.[67]

[Footnote 66: Plato, Politikus, 285-286.]

[Footnote 67: Aristotel. Topic. i. 104, a. 16. [Greek: Po/sa tô=n

lo/gôn ei)/dê tô=n dialektikô=n--e)/sti de\ to\ me\n e)pagôgê/, to\

de\ sullogismo/s . . . . e)/sti d' ê( me\n e)pagôgê\ pithanô/teron

kai\ saphe/steron kai\ kata\ tê\n ai)/sthêsin gnôrimô/teron kai\

toi=s polloi=s koino/n; o( de\ sullogismo\s biastikô/teron kai\ pro\s

tou\s a)ntilogikou\s e)nerge/steron.]]

[Side-note: Alkibiadês II. leaves its problem avowedly

undetermined.]

It has been seen that Alkibiadês I, though professing to give

something like a solution, gives what is really no solution at all.

Alkibiadês II., similar in many respects, is here different, inasmuch

as it does not even profess to solve the difficulty which had been

raised. The general mental defect--false persuasion of knowledge

without the reality--is presented in its application to a particular

case. Alkibiades is obliged to admit that he does not know what he

ought to pray to the Gods for: neither what is _good_, to be

granted, nor what is _evil_, to be averted. He relies upon

Sokrates for dispelling this mist from his mind: which Sokrates

promises to do, but adjourns for another occasion.

[Side-note: Sokrates commends the practice of praying to the

Gods for favours undefined--his views about the semi-regular,

semi-irregular agency of the Gods--he prays to them for premonitory

warnings.]

Sokrates here ascribes to the Spartans, and to various philosophers,

the practice of putting up prayers in undefined language, for good

and honourable things generally. He commends that practice. Xenophon

tells us that the historical Sokrates observed it:[68] but he tells

us also that the historical Sokrates, though not praying for any

special presents from the Gods, yet prayed for and believed himself

to receive special irregular revelations and advice as to what was

good to be done or avoided in particular cases. He held that these

special revelations were essential to any tolerable life: that the

dispensations of the Gods, though administered upon regular

principles on certain subjects and up to a certain point, were kept

by them designedly inscrutable beyond that point: but that the Gods

would, if properly solicited, afford premonitory warnings to any

favoured person, such as would enable him to keep out of the way of

evil, and put himself in the way of good. He declared that to consult

and obey oracles and prophets was not less a maxim of prudence than a

duty of piety: for himself, he was farther privileged through his

divine sign or monitor, which he implicitly followed.[69] Such

premonitory warnings were the only special favour which he thought it

suitable to pray for--besides good things generally. For special

presents he did not pray, because he professed not to know whether

any of the ordinary objects of desire were good or bad. He proves in

his conversation with Euthydêmus, that all those acquisitions which

are usually accounted means of happiness--beauty, strength, wealth,

reputation, nay, even good health and wisdom--are sometimes good

or causes of happiness, sometimes evil or causes of misery; and

therefore cannot be considered either as absolutely the one or

absolutely the other.[70]

[Footnote 68: Xenoph. Mem. i. 3, 2; Plat. Alk. ii. p. 143-148.]

[Footnote 69: These opinions of Sokrates are announced in various

passages of the Xenophontic Memorabilia, i. 1, 1-10--[Greek: e)/phê

de\ dei=n, a(\ me\n matho/ntas poiei=n e)/dôkan oi( theoi/,

mantha/nein; a(\ de\ mê\ dê=la toi=s a)nthrô/pois e)sti/, peira=sthai

dia\ mantikê=s para\ tô=n theô=n puntha/nesthai; tou\s theou\s ga/r,

oi(=s a)\n ô)=sin i(/leô|, sêmai/nein]--i. 3, 4; i. 4, 2-15; iv. 3,

12; iv. 7, 10; iv. 8, 5-11.]

[Footnote 70: Xenoph. Memor. iv. 2, 31-32-36.[Greek: Tau=ta ou)=n

pote\ me\n ô)phelou=nta pote\ de\ bla/ptonta, ti/ ma=llon a)gatha\

ê)\ kaka/ e)stin?]]

[Side-note: Comparison of Alkibiadês II. with the Xenophontic

Memorabilia, especially the conversation of Sokrates with Euthydemus.

Sokrates not always consistent with himself.]

This impossibility of determining what is good and what is evil, in

consequence of the uncertainty in the dispensations of the Gods and

in human affairs--is a doctrine forcibly insisted on by the

Xenophontic Sokrates in his discourse with Euthydêmus, and much akin

to the Platonic Alkibiadês II., being applied to the special case of

prayer. But we must not suppose that Sokrates adheres to this

doctrine throughout all the colloquies of the Xenophontic

Memorabilia: on the contrary, we find him, in other places, reasoning

upon such matters, as health, strength, and wisdom, as if they were

decidedly good.[71] The fact is, that the arguments of Sokrates, in

the Xenophontic Memorabilia, vary materially according to the

occasion and the person with whom he is discoursing: and the case is

similar with the Platonic dialogues: illustrating farther the

questionable evidence on which Schleiermacher and other critics

proceed, when they declare one dialogue to be spurious, because it

contains reasoning inconsistent with another.

[Footnote 71: For example, Xen. Mem. iv. 5, 6--[Greek: sophi/an to\

me/giston a)gatho/n], &c.]

We find in Alkibiadês II. another doctrine which is also proclaimed

by Sokrates in the Xenophontic Memorabilia: that the Gods are not

moved by costly sacrifice more than by humble sacrifice, according to

the circumstances of the offerer:[72] they attend only to the mind of

the offerer, whether he be just and wise: that is, "whether he knows

what ought to be done both towards Gods and towards men".[73]

[Footnote 72: Plato, Alkib. ii. p. 149-150; Xen. Mem. i. 3. Compare

Plato, Legg. x. p. 885; Isokrat. ad Nikok.]

[Footnote 73: Plato, Alkib. ii. p. 149 E, 150 B.]

[Side-note: Remarkable doctrine of Alkibiadês II.--that

knowledge is not always Good. The knowledge of Good itself is

indispensable: without that, the knowledge of other things is more

hurtful than beneficial.]

But we find also in Alkibiadês II. another doctrine, more remarkable.

Sokrates will not proclaim absolutely that knowledge is good, and

that ignorance is evil. In some cases, he contends, ignorance is

good; and he discriminates which the cases are. That which we

are principally interested in knowing, is _Good_, or The

_Best_--The _Profitable_:[74] phrases used as equivalent.

The knowledge of this is good, and the ignorance of it mischievous,

under all supposable circumstances. And if a man knows good, the more

he knows of everything else, the better; since he will sure to make a

good use of his knowledge. But if he does not know good, the

knowledge of other things will be hurtful rather than beneficial to

him. To be skilful in particular arts and accomplishments, under the

capital mental deficiency supposed, will render him an instrument of

evil and not of good. The more he knows--and the more he believes

himself to know--the more forward will he be in acting, and therefore

the greater amount of harm will he do. It is better that he should

act as little as possible. Such a man is not fit to direct his own

conduct, like a freeman: he must be directed and controlled by

others, like a slave. The greater number of mankind are fools of this

description--ignorant of good: the wise men who know good, and are

fit to direct, are very few. The wise man alone, knowing good,

follows reason: the rest trust to opinion, without reason.[75] He

alone is competent to direct both his own conduct and that of the

society.

[Footnote 74: Plato, Alkib. ii. p. 145 C. [Greek: O(/stis a)/ra ti

tô=n toiou/tôn oi)=den, e)a\n me\n pare/pêtai au)tô=| ê( tou=

belti/stou e)pistê/mê--au)tê\ d' ê)=n ê( au)tê\ dê/pou ê(per kai\ ê(

tou= ô)pheli/mou]--also 146 B.]

[Footnote 75: Plato, Alkib. ii. p. 146 A-D. [Greek: a)/neu nou=

do/xê| pepisteuko/tas.]]

The stress which is laid here upon the knowledge of good, as

distinguished from all other varieties of knowledge--the

identification of the good with the profitable, and of the knowledge

of good with reason ([Greek: nou=s]), while other varieties of

knowledge are ranked with opinion ([Greek: do/xa])--these are points

which, under one phraseology or another, pervade many of the Platonic

dialogues. The old phrase of Herakleitus--[Greek: Polumathi/ê no/on

ou) dida/skei]--"much learning does not teach reason"--seems to have

been present to the mind of Plato in composing this dialogue. The man

of much learning and art, without the knowledge of good, and

surrendering himself to the guidance of one or other among his

accomplishments, is like a vessel tossed about at sea without a

pilot.[76]

[Footnote 76: Plato, Alkib. ii. p. 147 A. [Greek: o( de\ dê\ tê\n

kaloume/nên poluma/theia/n te kai\ polutechni/an kektême/nos,

o)rphano\s de\ ô)\n tau/tês tê=s e)pistê/mês, a)go/menos de\ u(po\

mia=s e(ka/stês tô=n a)/llôn], &c.]

[Side-note: Knowledge of Good--appears postulated and divined,

in many of the Platonic dialogues, under different titles.]

What Plato here calls the knowledge of Good, or Reason--the just

discrimination and comparative appreciation of Ends and

Means--appears in the Politikus and Euthydêmus, under the title of the

Regal or Political Art, of employing or directing[77] the results of all

other arts, which are considered as subordinate: in the Protagoras,

under the title of art of calculation or mensuration: in the

Philêbus, as measure and proportion: in the Phædrus (in regard to

rhetoric) as the art of turning to account, for the main purpose of

persuasion, all the special processes, stratagems, decorations,

&c., imparted by professional masters. In the Republic, it is

personified in the few venerable Elders who constitute the Reason of

the society, and whose directions all the rest (Guardians and

Producers) are bound implicitly to follow: the virtue of the

subordinates consisting in this implicit obedience. In the Leges, it

is defined as the complete subjection in the mind, of pleasures and

pains to right Reason,[78] without which, no special aptitudes are

worth having. In the Xenophontic Memorabilia, it stands as a Sokratic

authority under the title of Sophrosynê or Temperance:[79] and the

Profitable is declared identical with the Good, as the directing and

limiting principle for all human pursuits and proceedings.[80]

[Footnote 77: Plato, Politikus, 292 B, 304 B, 305 A; Euthydêmus, 291

B, 292 B. Compare Xenophon, Oekonomicus, i. 8, 13.]

[Footnote 78: Leges, iii. 689 A-D, 691 A.]

[Footnote 79: Xenoph. Memor. i. 2. 17; iv. 3. 1.]

[Footnote 80: Xenoph. Memor. iv. 6, 8; iv. 7, 7.]

[Side-note: The Good--the Profitable--what is it?--How are we

to know it? Plato leaves this undetermined.]

But what are we to understand by the _Good_, about which there

are so many disputes, according to the acknowledgment of Plato as

well as of Sokrates? And what are we to understand by the Profitable?

In what relation does it stand to the Pleasurable and the Painful?

These are points which Plato here leaves undetermined. We shall find

him again touching them, and trying different ways of determining

them, in the Protagoras, the Gorgias, the Republic, and

elsewhere. We have here the title and the postulate, but nothing

more, of a comprehensive Teleology, or right comparative estimate of

ends and means one against another, so as to decide when, how far,

under what circumstances, &c., each ought to be pursued. We shall

see what Plato does in other dialogues to connect this title and

postulate with a more definite meaning.

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