Discussion

A discussion must first take place to address issues like the naming

of the group, where in the group tree it should go (e.g.

rec.sports.koosh vs rec.games.koosh?), and whether or not it should

be created in the first place. The formal Request For Discussion

(RFD) should be posted to news.announce.newgroups, along with any

other groups or mailing lists at all related to the proposed topic.

news.announce.newgroups is moderated. You should place it first in

the Newsgroups: header, so that it will get mailed to the moderator

only. The article won't be immediately posted to the other

newsgroups listed; rather, it will give you the opportunity to have

the moderator correct any inconsistencies or mistakes in your RFD.

He or she will take care of posting it to the newsgroups you

indicated. Also the Followup-To: header will be set so that the

actual discussion takes place only in news.groups. If a user has

difficulty posting to a moderated group, he or she may mail

submissions intended for news.announce.newgroups to the address

announce-newgroups@rpi.edu.

The final name and charter of the group, and whether it will be

moderated or unmoderated, will be determined during the discussion

period. If it's to be moderated, the discussion will also decide who

the moderator will be. If there's no general agreement on these

points among those in favor of a new group at the end of 30 days,

the discussion will be taken into mail rather than continued posting

to news.groups; that way, the proponents of the group can iron out

their differences and come back with a proper proposal, and make

a new Request For Discussion.

Voting

After the discussion period (which is mandatory), if it's been

determined that a new group really is desired, a name and charter are

agreed upon, and it's been determined whether the group will be

moderated (and by whom), a Call For Votes (CFV) should be posted

to news.announce.newgroups, along with any other groups that

the original Request For Discussion was posted to. The CFV should be

posted (or mailed to the news.announce.newgroups moderator) as

soon as possible after the discussion ends (to keep it fresh in

everyone's mind).

The Call for Votes should include clear instructions on how to cast a

vote. It's important that it be clearly explained how to both vote

for and against a group (and be of equivalent difficulty or

ease). If it's easier for you or your administrator, two separate

addresses can be used to mail yes and no votes to, providing that

they're on the same machine. Regardless of the method, everyone

must have a very specific idea of how to get his/her vote counted.

The voting period can last between 21 and 31 days, no matter what the

preliminary results of the vote are. A vote can't be called off

simply because 400 "no" votes have come in and only two "yes"

votes. The Call for Votes should include the exact date that the

voting period will end---only those votes arriving on the vote-taker's

machine before this date can be counted.

To keep awareness high, the CFV can be repeated during the vote,

provided that it gives the same clear, unbiased instructions for

casting a vote as the original; it also has to be the same proposal as

was first posted. The charter can't change in mid-vote. Also, votes

that're posted don't count---only those that were mailed to the

vote-taker can be tallied.

Partial results should never be included; only a statement of

the specific proposal, that a vote is in progress on it, and how to

cast a vote. A mass acknowledgement ("Mass ACK" or "Vote ACK") is

permitted; however, it must be presented in a way that gives no

indication of which way a person voted. One way to avoid this is to

create one large list of everyone who's voted, and sort it in

alphabetical order. It should not be two sorted lists (of the yes and

no votes, respectively).

Every vote is autonomous. The votes for or against one group can't be

transferred to another, similar proposal. A vote can only count for

the exact proposal that it was a response to. In particular, a vote

for or against a newsgroup under one name can't be counted as a vote

for or against another group with a different name or charter, a

different moderated/unmoderated status, or, if it's moderated, a

different moderator or set of moderators. Whew!

Finally, the vote has to be explicit; they should be of the form I

vote for the group foo.bar as proposed or I vote against the group

foo.bar as proposed. The wording doesn't have to be exact, your

intention just has to be clear.

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