Mr. JENNER. Her first husband was the----

Mr. VOSHININ. Bogoiavlensky.

Mr. JENNER. Yes. Who is now in a mental institution in California?

Mr. VOSHININ. That's right.

Mr. JENNER. And that he was a Communist?

Mr. VOSHININ. Yes; in his young days.

Mr. JENNER. Well, when you say "Communist"--an active member of the

Communist Party?

Mr. VOSHININ. I think of the Communist Youth Organization. Because it

was not in Soviet Russia; it was in China.

Mr. JENNER. Yes.

Mr. VOSHININ. But of some kind--I don't know what the official name

of the organization may be--but it was some kind of Communist Youth

Organization.

So she said when she married him that the situation what it was and

they did not want to stay in China and they debated the question of

whether to go to Soviet Russia or to go to United States. And she said

that it's her influence was to break up--that he break up all his ties

with the Communists. And come to the United States.

Mr. JENNER. That was her desire?

Mr. VOSHININ. She said that was her desire. And she said that's what

her first husband did--that they broke off with the Communists and

come over to the United States. And she said, "Since then, neither my

husband or me have anything to do with the Communist Party."

That's her story.

Mr. JENNER. Yes.

Mr. VOSHININ. On the other hand, she was always praising the Chinese

Communist regime--because she was saying that they do a lot of good

developing her beloved native country.

Mr. JENNER. China?

Mr. VOSHININ. China.

When she said--mentioned that in my presence, I said, "This is pure

Communist propaganda. You should know better than tell that."

On this she repeated very, you know angrily, she say, "You should

not tell me that I spread Communist propaganda--because they shot my

father."

That's what she said.

But that argument of whether the Communists do anything positive for

China or not was, you know, coming back and back.

Mr. JENNER. Repeated?

Mr. VOSHININ. Repeatedly when we met. And sometimes, especially my wife

and her were so angry with each other that we wouldn't talk with them,

you know, for several months. But somehow you meet these people again

somewhere in the same social circle, then you talk to them again.

Mr. JENNER. There was a violent difference of opinion between your wife

and Mrs. De Mohrenschildt on this subject?

Mr. VOSHININ. On this subject.

But where the Russian Communists are concerned, she always said that

they are too nationalistic for her. She doesn't like--she didn't like

that.

Mr. JENNER. Mrs. De Mohrenschildt?

Mr. VOSHININ. Mrs. De Mohrenschildt didn't like that.

She said, "I don't like anything about Russia." She didn't like Russian

music, she wouldn't stand a record in Russian language, or even

anybody, you know, whistling a Russian tune. She would get so angry I

don't know what.

And she would say, "I am against nationalism of any kind. I am for the

world government." She was very much for the world government, you

know, and things like that--international institutions and--uh; but,

on the other hand, when you start, you know, pressing her against the

wall, you say, "Well, stop that. That's kind of communistic talk,"--she

would immediately bring into the thing that "They killed my poor

father. I just want to be objective, you know, and say what's bad,

what's good." And she said, "you are all one-sided reactionaries,"

and so on, and "what do you think?" "I would praise the killers of my

father?" And so on. "I just want to be objective."

Well, you know, I don't like to argue with, you know, too much with

women; so I just stay away from that argument. But my wife will

probably tell you.

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