And she said then the security agent came and asked her to leave--and
she left.
So, she says that's all that it was--she said.
Mr. JENNER. All right.
Mr. VOSHININ. Because, you know, I wanted to make sure of what the
thing is about.
Mr. JENNER. You wanted to know?
Mr. VOSHININ. Yeah. I wanted to know from her--because if she would go,
you know, make some deals with Mikoyan, then I wouldn't like to talk
with her at all.
Mr. JENNER. Yes.
Mr. VOSHININ. But a joke--well De Mohrenschildt and his wife--they are
peculiar people, always doing something which nobody else does.
Mr. JENNER. Were they unconventional people?
Mr. VOSHININ. They are the most unconventional people I ever have seen.
Mr. JENNER. Are they unconventional in dress as well as in habits and
things they do?
Mr. VOSHININ. Oh, yes; oh, yes.
Mr. JENNER. Tell us a little about the unconventionality of dress.
Mr. VOSHININ. Well, for example, she always goes around in trousers,
a very tight trouser, with some kind of a tight bosom top, you know,
trying to imitate, you know, 15-year teenager girls, you know. And
he goes out very often without a tie or open breast--completely open
breast. And he may drop in somebody's party in this state--and without
shoes, you know. He may do things like that. Another time, you may see
him perfectly dressed.
Mr. JENNER. He's unpredictable?
Mr. VOSHININ. He is absolutely unpredictable--and I think even he knows
he's unpredictable, because I understand he even had a psychiatrist to
whom he went. My wife told me about that.
Mr. JENNER. From all this, do you have an impression of the De
Mohrenschildts--either one of them--as to their possible connection
with any Communist or agencies, Party, or what not? Or do you think
they are just extraordinarily unconventional? In other words, do you
think it's deeper than the lack of conventionality?
Mr. VOSHININ. It may be; it may not be. I'm not--you know, now all of
us are looking back and trying to talk it over and find one way or the
other. This is a thing which, you know, is discussed at all times.
Mr. JENNER. You're rationalizing at the moment?
Mr. VOSHININ. We are rationalizing--all of us--at that moment. Of
course, we do not have any proof whatever one way or the other.