Mr. DAVIS. Bay of Pigs.
Mr. JENNER. Yes; the Bay of Pigs.
Mrs. VOSHININ. Yes; I do remember that.
Mr. JENNER. Now, when was this walking trip with respect to that
event--at the same time, a little bit before, a little after?
Mrs. VOSHININ. You know, I couldn't say absolutely. I'm very bad on
dates--and I don't remember even the date of the Bay of Pigs. When was
that?
Mr. JENNER. Now, you've put me in a bad spot.
Mr. DAVIS. Well, it was in--shortly after 1960. It would be about March
of 1960.
Mrs. VOSHININ. Right.
Mr. JENNER. The President was elected in November 1960.
Mr. DAVIS. It was very shortly after that.
Mr. JENNER. Well, the invasion of the Bay of Pigs occurred after the
President's election, and my recollection is that it was in December,
December of 1960, or January of 1961.
Mr. DAVIS. I think it was probably about that time--or in February.
Mr. JENNER. It was sometime very shortly after he took office. During
the first 2 or 3 months of 1961. It wasn't long after he had been
inaugurated and he was inaugurated January 9, I think it was, 1961.
Mr. DAVIS. The 20th is inauguration.
Mr. JENNER. Twentieth of January?
Mr. DAVIS. Yes. I think it was in late February or early March.
Mr. JENNER. Well, that's reasonably accurate.
Mrs. VOSHININ. Uh-huh. Maybe they were in Haiti at that time. I don't
know really. Really, I'm afraid to say.
Mr. JENNER. They might have been in Haiti?
Mrs. VOSHININ. In Haiti. Because I know that they told us that on
the way back, they stopped for about a month in Haiti to get their
breath--to rest a little.
Mr. JENNER. On the way back from the Mexican walking trip?
Mrs. VOSHININ. From the Mexican walking trip; yes. They walked through
Panama, from there they took airplane to Haiti and stayed there a
month--and then came back.
Mr. JENNER. Did they ever say anything or did you ever have the
impression that they had visited Cuba?
Mrs. VOSHININ. No. No. But something--I think he did not visit Cuba. I
believe he mentioned that his plane had to stop in Cuba, something like
that, on the airport. But I'm not sure about that at all. I believe he
said.
Mr. JENNER. Was there a time when he visited Ghana?
Mrs. VOSHININ. There was; yes.
Mr. JENNER. Well, tell us about that.
Mrs. VOSHININ. Well, that was after he came back from Yugoslavia. I
don't remember before or after he went second time to Yugoslavia.
I think it was before he went second time to Yugoslavia. And I am
pretty sure that he was in Ghana because he brought a newspaper--Ghana
newspaper--and there was a picture, small picture. I didn't read
the article, but I noticed there a line which said, "A well-known
philatelist, George De Mohrenschildt"--which caught my eye. So, I
thought, my God! That's one of George's antics again! [Laughter.]
Mr. DAVIS. Was he a stamp collector?
Mrs. VOSHININ. No.
Mr. DAVIS. And this article said he was?
Mrs. VOSHININ. That's what the article said; yes. But I just glanced
through it, I mean. That's what caught my eye. That's all.
And then he also brought some photographs from Ghana--so I'm pretty
sure he was there.
Mr. JENNER. You saw some photographs from Ghana?
Mrs. VOSHININ. Yes; from Ghana.
Mr. JENNER. And you saw this newspaper?
Mrs. VOSHININ. Yes; and I saw the newspaper--and I believe this
newspaper was in English. The French newspaper was from Haiti--right.
And the English one was from Ghana; yes.
Mr. JENNER. It was a Ghana newspaper published in English?
Mrs. VOSHININ. Yes; in English language--written in English language.
And that's what it said there.
Mr. JENNER. Did you ever talk to him about that?
Mrs. VOSHININ. I believe so. I believe I asked him, and he said that he
went there on account of some Swedish, I believe, businessmen to look
for some oil leases, and he had to sort of conceal his profession, you
know--that this is a competitive business and you don't advertise you
are geologists looking for oil, you know.
But then, again, we, both of us, refrained from asking any questions of
George's trip because George repeatedly hinted that he was doing some
services for the State Department, you know.
Mr. JENNER. Of the United States?
Mrs. VOSHININ. Of the United States; yes. And under those
circumstances, you just don't feel like asking him any questions, you
know. And maybe I assumed that, but he definitely hinted--made certain
hints. He never said that he is an employee, though, you know. For
example, about his trip to Yugoslavia, he would say, "I made it with
the knowledge of the State Department." You know. And then when he came
back, he told us how he submitted a written report there. And then on
few other foreign trips, he also said that--sort of, you know, hinted
that that was what.
Mr. JENNER. What foreign trip?
Mrs. VOSHININ. He was traveling to Europe several times, I forget which.
Mr. JENNER. Yugoslavia, Ghana?
Mrs. VOSHININ. Well, let me have--I have it on piece of paper.
Mr. JENNER. Oh, you have?
Mrs. VOSHININ. [Referring to paper which she took from her bag.] Prior
to 1955, he told me, he was in Cuba. He was drilling there. That was
before--long before Castro. Right?
Mr. JENNER. Uh-huh.
Mrs. VOSHININ. He was drilling some well--made some very good oil
discovery in Cuba.
Then he worked in Mexico. That's what he said. Prior to 1955 sometime.
Then he went to Yugoslavia from 1957 to 1958, I believe. That's what it
says here. Then he visited Europe back on his way from Yugoslavia. And
he brought some pictures from Poland, Sweden, and from France. Those
three countries.
Mr. JENNER. Did you recognize any of them?
Mrs. VOSHININ. No, sir; I haven't been in either of this countries.
And I believe he went to Poland, he said, because, you know, he lived
formerly in Poland and he said he wanted to go there to just have a
look at it. And then he said that he went to France to meet his first
wife and child. I believe she is--I believe Alex was at that time in
France. And he went to Sweden for business matters. I understood that
some Swedish people arranged the Ghana trip of his.
Then, also, on the way to Ghana, he went to Europe. I believe he said
to Sweden again and then to Ghana. And then--I'm not sure whether he
was twice in Ghana or only once. I'm quite sure once he was there.
Then, he went to Haiti several times.
Mr. JENNER. You were aware that he was making these trips. Now, whether
he actually made them or not, you don't know----
Mrs. VOSHININ. No; I don't know.
Mr. JENNER. Other than that he told you that?
Mrs. VOSHININ. Yes; and then he disappeared, you know. And he would
tell us and then, of course, go away. But, for example, Ghana is quite
certain, I think, because of this newspaper--so, that's why. And, then,
we saw him off on the airport, of course, it didn't say "Ghana" on the
airplane, I mean, but----[Laughter.]
And then I noticed he visited--he mentioned that he visited--I don't
know--he mentioned that he visited Guatemala and Dominican Republic
sometime in between.
Mr. JENNER. Sometime in between what?
Mrs. VOSHININ. In between his walking trip and 1955.
Mr. JENNER. That was in between 1955 and his walking trip that he had
visited Guatemala and the Dominican Republic?
Mrs. VOSHININ. Yes; he mentioned, at least, visiting them--but I'm not
sure.
Mr. JENNER. But you were aware of his absences from Dallas?
Mrs. VOSHININ. Yes; definitely.
Mr. JENNER. And the general conversation in the community in which you
moved that he was making trips to the places that he purported to be
making?
Mrs. VOSHININ. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. And, upon his return, would he, in turn, recount his
experiences in these various places and countries?
Mrs. VOSHININ. Sometimes he would, yes; but he would never tell us what
his business there was. Nobody was interested in that anyway.
Mr. JENNER. Yes.
Mrs. VOSHININ. He wouldn't tell anything about it. But he would tell,
yes; about--he would sometimes bring photographs like he brought from
Europe, from Ghana, you know.
Mr. JENNER. Well, photographs that he had purportedly taken, or picture
postcards or things he had purchased?
Mrs. VOSHININ. No; there were taken photographs.
Mr. JENNER. Ones that he took?
Mrs. VOSHININ. Yes.
And also, of course, he sent us a card once in awhile, Now, I don't
remember--from Yugoslavia we definitely got a card. Yes; we got a card
from Sweden from him; and from Haiti we got a card.