Mrs. VOSHININ. Exactly.
Mr. JENNER. He would walk into your home without invitation?
Mrs. VOSHININ. Right. He was that way.
Mr. DAVIS. Sort of a beatnik?
Mrs. VOSHININ. Well, no; not beatnik--but he was definitely
nonconformist. He would just love to do exactly what people would, you
know, object to.
Mr. JENNER. He was not sensitive to the feelings of others?
Mrs. VOSHININ. Not at all. I believe that sometimes he definitely
enjoyed in teasing people in his own way. He used to--in any way.
For example, if people are not politically inclined, he would shock
them with some statement about a free marriage, you know. If they
are politically inclined, it would depend on who they are. The
conservative, he would shock with communism, you know; the Jewish
people, he would shock by praising nazism, you know.
He was that type of person, you know, really, they were like children
in that respect--honestly. And what the trouble is with George and
Jeanne, both of them, I think, their main trouble is their extreme
bitterness--extreme bitterness, I believe which goes back to their
former life.
Mr. JENNER. Bitterness?
Mrs. VOSHININ. Toward life, toward people, toward--you know, they
thought, for example, that almost everybody's a bigot. For example,
Igor and I were bigots because we went to church. You know, that sort
of thing. And so and so on.
Mr. JENNER. They were unreligious people?
Mrs. VOSHININ. Yes, sir; they were actually fighting atheists.
Mr. JENNER. They were aggressive atheists?
Mrs. VOSHININ. Aggressive, definitely. And they would just state it in,
sometimes, quite rude form. One definitely would object against the
form, mainly--because, after all, everybody should have his own belief.
There is nothing criminal to be an atheist either, but the form in
which they did it, you know, the impoliteness.
Mr. DAVIS. Did you ever notice that they tended to want to help people?
Mrs. VOSHININ. To help people?
Mr. DAVIS. Were they the type persons that were always trying to help
someone that needed help?
Mrs. VOSHININ. No; not always; uh-uh. But, I think that by nature,
they are very, very good natured--definitely. They're for the
underdog, you know--always. And--well, compared to George Bouhe, whose
whole life is dedicated to helping people whether people wanted it
or not, you know--they would be nonhelpful. You know, they would not
bother so much about people as George Bouhe did.
Mr. JENNER. They weren't aggressive about it as George Bouhe was?
Mrs. VOSHININ. Right. But they were very--are very good natured.
Mr. JENNER. And generous people?
Mrs. VOSHININ. Not George--no. Jeanne, yes; but not George.
For example, their relation to Oswald. They definitely pitied him very,
very much. They were very sorry for him. And they tried to help him in
any way they could.
Mr. JENNER. Now, that you have mentioned the Oswalds, did you ever meet
either one of the Oswalds?
Mrs. VOSHININ. No, sir; uh-uh.
Mr. JENNER. Did you hear about the Oswalds?
Mrs. VOSHININ. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. In what connection did you first hear or read or learn
about their existence? Fix the time, first.
Mrs. VOSHININ. My husband read it in the newspaper.
Mr. JENNER. That would be in June of 1962?
Mrs. VOSHININ. I really can't say.