Mrs. BATES. He just said "the party."

Mr. JENNER. The Party? Those are the words he used--the expression,

rather?

Mrs. BATES. Uh-huh.

And he said you couldn't talk, you couldn't express anything because

there was always a party person around and he'd report you.

Mr. JENNER. Uh-huh.

Mrs. BATES. He didn't talk very much. Just helped me with the

translation and the notes--to read them.

Mr. JENNER. Did he say anything to you about any effort on his part to

become a citizen of Russia?

Mrs. BATES. Didn't know anything about it. Oh, another thing he said

that he was very bitter about--he went over there on a 2-year visa and,

of course, he married Marina. At the end of the 2 years when he wanted

to leave, they wouldn't let him bring her back. They said, "You go

ahead and we'll send her to you."

"Well, of course," he said, "I knew I'd never see her again."

So, he stayed 11 months longer until he could get her and he raised so

much cain until they finally let him.

Mr. JENNER. Raised cain with whom?

Mrs. BATES. The Russians.

Mr. JENNER. Uh-huh.

Mrs. BATES. He wouldn't leave--his visa was out but he wouldn't leave

until they let her go.

Mr. JENNER. Uh-huh.

Did he express orally to you any views or opinions respecting the

Government of the United States?

Mrs. BATES. Never.

Mr. JENNER. Did you gather anything with respect to his attitude toward

the United States?

Mrs. BATES. No; I've thought and thought--and, of course, I've been

asked questions all along. And he didn't discuss anything. If you got

10 words out of him at a time, you were doing good. He just didn't

talk--except explaining those notes and, at times, he would go into

detail on them. Conversations--he had actual conversations that he had

had with different people over there.

Mr. JENNER. Oh, he had?

Mrs. BATES. If you could find those notes, I tell you--they were

fascinating to read. "Inside Russia"--was what it was. And they were

coherent and they were well written. And he had them all in sequence.

I mean, they weren't just haphazard. He had them all in sequence

according to city and dates and things like that.

Mr. JENNER. How was his spelling?

Mrs. BATES. Well, the English was fair.

Mr. JENNER. The spelling?

Mrs. BATES. Yeah.

Mr. JENNER. He was an accurate speller?

Mrs. BATES. Fair.

Mr. JENNER. He had misspelled words, though, occasionally?

Mrs. BATES. Oh, yeah. Mostly, I'd say, I don't know whether it was

misspelled or just that he got in a hurry and left letters out. But

there's very few men that are good spellers. I shouldn't say that but

it's----

Mr. JENNER. I am--when I have my secretary.

Mrs. BATES. Yeah [laughter].

College students are notoriously bad spellers.

Mr. JENNER. Particularly law students.

Mrs. BATES. Well--no--particularly psychology majors. They're terrible!

Mr. JENNER. Did you type all of his notes?

Mrs. BATES. No; not even a third of them.

Mr. JENNER. Tell me that circumstance.

Mrs. BATES. Well, on the 20th, he came up and he was--uh--quite

nervous. Uh--the other 2 days, he'd sit right there at my desk

and--uh--if I needed to ask him anything, why I would. But this day,

he was walking up and down and looking over my shoulder and wanting

to know where I was--and, finally, I finished the 10th page. He said,

"Now, Pauline, you told me what your charges were." He said, "This is 8

hours you've worked and 10 pages. I have $10, and no more money. And I

can't let you go on."

And that's when I asked him if I couldn't go on and type the rest of

them. I told him I'd do it for nothing, or if he got the money, why he

could pay me.

And he said, "No, I don't work that way. I've got $10." And he pulled a

$10 bill out of his pocket and walked out.

Mr. JENNER. Were you in possession of these notes from day to day or

did he take them back with him at night?

Mrs. BATES. Oh, he took them with him. He never left anything. And he

never left the office until he had picked up what I had typed--even the

carbon paper.

Mr. JENNER. Even the carbon paper?

Mrs. BATES. Oh yeah. He took the carbon paper.

He did tell me that--I think it was the second day--that there was

a man in Fort Worth--and he's an engineer. I can't remember. I've

scratched my brain on that, too, trying to remember--I just saw the

letterhead for a minute--that was interested in having these notes put

into book form--manuscript form.

Mr. JENNER. Does the name George De Mohrenschildt refresh your

recollection?

Mrs. BATES. No. Uh--I just got a glimpse of the letterhead, and it

didn't register with me.

Mr. JENNER. But it sounded like a man who is an engineer?

Mrs. BATES. He said he was an engineer--he told me that. But there's

lots of engineers in----

Mr. JENNER. Oh, yes.

Mrs. BATES. And that he was interested in helping Lee get these notes

published. And he said, of course, he would have to change names and

things like that. He had actual Russian names of people he talked to.

And in order to protect people, he'd have to change the names. But the

man was willing to--uh--wanted to go ahead. He had read all the notes.

I never did read all of them. Now, this is what Lee told me.

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