Mr. LIEBELER. And it finally concludes with your statement----

Mr. CARRO. Yes; concluding with the last statement of the court

action of March 11, 1954, before Justice Delaney, where there was no

appearance by the people; it was just the attendance officer, myself,

the probation officer, before the court, and that Mrs. Barnes reported

that she had contacted New Orleans and received no information as to

the whereabouts of the family, and there was a question that a former

associate thought that the family may have been living in California.

Justice Delaney discharged the case and Lee was no longer in our

jurisdiction, which goes along with the fact that we had no idea;

we attempted to find out; we wrote to Louisiana and New Orleans but

couldn't get back any positive reports.

Mr. LIEBELER. Would this particular document, which I will mark as

"Exhibit 1" on the deposition of Mr. John Carro, April 16, 1964, at New

York--would that have been attached to the petition or just a part of

the record as a special report?

Mr. CARRO. No; this would be part of the court record, and actually

the petition is just one petition where the judges make their own

small notations when the probation officer appears. And that is the

docket. That is kept up in the courtroom in their files. These are

the records--this is the actual record that is kept by the probation

department, and the only thing that is sent to the other agencies is

just this initial report. You don't send in the day-to-day or the

month-to-month, other subsequent actions. So that this is a separate

report.

Mr. LIEBELER. Would this record in the ordinary course reflect all of

the action taken?

Mr. CARRO. Yes; this is the record.

Mr. LIEBELER. In connection with the case?

Mr. CARRO. This is the record that the probation officer maintains

while the case is under his supervision until the case is closed and

reflects the contacts with the child, periodic or--all the contacts and

any work that the probation officer does he is supposed to report here

and make a small notation.

Mr. LIEBELER. Mr. Carro, I have initialed Exhibit 1 on your deposition

for purposes of identification, and I ask you if you would also initial

it near my initials so that we won't have any difficulty in identifying

it. I am correct in my understanding, am I not, that you prepared this

report?

Mr. CARRO. Yes; this is my report and the entries herein, except for

one or two that may have been made by Mr. Dunn--and I refer to the

entry of 1-5-54, while I was on vacation--those bearing the name John

Carro, bearing my name, are my entries, and this is my report.

Mr. LIEBELER. Let the record show that the exhibit that we have marked

is a somewhat illegible copy.

Mr. LIEBELER. As you have indicated to me, the original was on yellow

paper, which does not reproduce well. I will obtain the original and

make it a part of the record. Can you think of anything else, Mr.

Carro, about Oswald or your contacts with Oswald that you think would

be of help to the Commission?

Mr. CARRO. Well, I think that there has been so much written on it that

you have probably a much more comprehensive report, since you have been

able to get the actual records of these statements that I made at the

time I wrote this. I doubt that I could really say anything at this

point, 12 years later or so, that would be of any help to you.

Whatever I might say would just be an independent opinion on my own and

I don't think that would be that valid. I think you have the original

psychiatric report here, the social agency report, and whatever it

is, and they are amply--I don't think that I could add anything

independently that would be of help to the Commission.

Mr. LIEBELER. In view of that, Mr. Carro, I don't have any more

questions. I want to thank you very much on behalf of the Commission

for coming here and for giving the testimony that you have. It is

another example of the way the city of New York and the people who are

associated with it have cooperated with the work of the Commission. The

Commission appreciates it very much. We thank you sincerely.

Mr. CARRO. I appreciate very much your having me over here. I would

like to offer whatever help I can, and I hope I have been of some help

in making whatever decision you have to make on this matter.

Mr. LIEBELER. You have been very helpful, Mr. Carro.

Mr. CARRO. Thank you.

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