Mr. CARRO. I have no independent record of any sort or had nothing to
refresh my recollection about.
Mr. LIEBELER. And you had not seen the court's papers or the petition
that was filed, or the memorandum----
Mr. CARRO. No; the only thing that I might have seen, and I don't--an
FBI agent come in and spoke to me a couple of months ago, and I don't
know if that was the original record he had with him, but he sat down,
as you are, and spoke to me, and there was little I could add to what
was in the record there.