Mr. JENNER. If he were alive, he would be approaching 25 years of
age--this would be his 24th year and he would be 25 years old next
October.
Mr. CONWAY. Well, I have discussed it with the Masseys, they live
across the street.
Mr. JENNER. Give me their full name and address and telephone number,
if you will?
Mr. CONWAY. And they don't remember it. It is H. R. Massey. What I was
fixing to say, I was trying to eliminate the neighborhood house by
house. The Masseys don't remember--I don't believe Barbara Anne does,
Barbara Anne would be their daughter and she is approximately his age,
but I heard her say that she didn't remember him at all.
Mr. JENNER. Is Barbara Anne living with her folks?
Mr. CONWAY. No, sir; she's married now. I don't know what her last name
is.
Mr. JENNER. Well, maybe I could find out from her mother, Mr. and Mrs.
H. R. Massey.
Mr. CONWAY. [Spelling] M-a-s-s-e-y.
Mr. JENNER. And they live across the street from you?
Mr. CONWAY. That's right--they live at 7425 Ewing.
Mr. JENNER. Do I have your permission to talk with Mrs. Conway?
Mr. CONWAY. Oh, yes; I suggested that she come with me and save a trip.
Mr. JENNER. Yes, that would have been nice.
Mr. CONWAY. I don't know why she wouldn't but she knows what she wants
to do.
Mr. JENNER. I probably would like to have her come down tomorrow, if
she is free, tomorrow afternoon.
Mr. CONWAY. Well, my wife's brother passed away last week, and it has
been a considerable shock to her and she is on tranquilizers and her
memory isn't as good as it would be if she wasn't in such a strain.
Mr. JENNER. Well, you mention it to her when you get home and I'll call
out home sometime tonight?
Mr. CONWAY. All right.
Mr. JENNER. And we will leave it up to her?
Mr. CONWAY. I'm sure she would be glad to do all she could.
Mr. JENNER. Can you think of any others?
Mr. CONWAY. The Turners, they just live--oh, Bill Bridges would be
the age of John Pic. He was just another one of the kids in the
neighborhood that I taught to play chess at the same time, but he was
older and there was no other children in that range, and John is as old
as my daughter.
Mr. JENNER. Well, I might talk with him on the telephone.
Mr. CONWAY. I don't know where he lives. He is with Halliburton, I
believe, and when he is in town he comes by to see me, too.
Mr. JENNER. Is that Halliburton, Tex.?
Mr. CONWAY. No; that's Halliburton Oil Co. I don't know where the home
office is.
Mr. JENNER. Have you seen him around Fort Worth?
Mr. CONWAY. Bill?
Mr. JENNER. Yes.
Mr. CONWAY. The last time I saw him he came to my house and brought his
family and it's been quite a little while ago.
Mr. JENNER. His first name is William and his last name is what?
Mr. CONWAY. Bridges (spelling) B-r-i-d-g-e-s.
Mr. JENNER. Well, we will look in the telephone book and maybe we can
find him that way.
Mr. CONWAY. He is with Halliburton, I remember the last time I talked
to him.
Mr. JENNER. The older boys were attending high school and Lee was
attending elementary school, what elementary school is that?
Mr. CONWAY. I'm sorry--I don't know.
Mr. JENNER. And the high school?
Mr. CONWAY. It would be Arlington Heights. These schools are changing
so rapidly and increasing so until I just don't know.
Mr. JENNER. During this period of time, did you become acquainted with
Marguerite Oswald, the mother of Lee Oswald?
Mr. CONWAY. Yes; I knew Mrs. Oswald. She was in my house a few times.
Mr. JENNER. I wish you would give me, if you can, your impression of
Mrs. Oswald, particularly with respect to the--to her care of these
boys and Lee Oswald during this 4-year period.
Mr. CONWAY. Well, I think she was--my impression was that she felt
burdened with them and I think she showed a selfish attitude towards
her children.
Mr. JENNER. Selfish?
Mr. CONWAY. Selfish--yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. Would you elaborate on that, what do you mean by that?
Mr. CONWAY. Well, I don't have words for it except that it appeared
to me that she didn't dress them as well as she might. She didn't
care--they were embarrassed about their dress.
Mr. JENNER. They were?
Mr. CONWAY. Some of them were--John, especially and sometimes Robert, I
think, but they were very stoical, they could take it, they were good
kids about it, you know.
Mr. JENNER. Did John speak to you on that subject?
Mr. CONWAY. No, sir; John wouldn't ever say anything against his
mother. My daughter told me that someone said something about--hearsay,
you see, is about all I know about such things, but my daughter told me
that she heard some of the kids mention to him that his mother should
buy him better clothes or shoes or something and they didn't know why
she didn't, or something like that and he shouldn't give her as much of
the money he made when he was doing whatever work he did and he said,
"She's my mother." He stood up for her and that's all he would say.
Mr. JENNER. I take it from this remark that you just made that the
boys, at least John, certainly John, did some work after school?
Mr. CONWAY. John sold shoes, I think, he worked in a shoe store for a
time. It seems to me at that time is when they were inaugurating this
distributive education thing and I believe that's how he got his job.
Mr. JENNER. And did Robert work also?
Mr. CONWAY. I don't know.
Mr. JENNER. What about Lee?
Mr. CONWAY. I don't think so. Robert would have if he could have gotten
a job.
Mr. JENNER. What was your impression of Lee on that score, was he
industrious or not?
Mr. CONWAY. Yes; he was--you mean Robert?
Mr. JENNER. No; I mean Lee.
Was he industrious?
Mr. CONWAY. I don't rightly know, I have lost contact with them and he
was too small.
Mr. JENNER. Do you have any impression as to whether this was an
emotional child?
Mr. CONWAY. Yes; he would become very angry and his face would flush
and he would just storm at other children.
Mr. JENNER. He was quick to anger?
Mr. CONWAY. Yes; quite quick.
Mr. JENNER. And did he seem to be a sensitive, an overly sensitive
child?
Mr. CONWAY. I suppose so--I thought he was a very strange type of
person and at the time I thought he was considerably above the average
in intelligence around that age--being 9 or 10 or 11, I mean, to catch
on and to notice and be able to learn to do little things.
Mr. JENNER. What is your middle initial, do you have one?
Mr. CONWAY. P. (Spelling) P-i-e-r-c-e.
Mr. JENNER. You probably wondered why I asked you about Leslie Welding
Co. Do you know a man by the name of Hiram L. Conway with Leslie
Welding in Fort Worth?
Mr. CONWAY. No, I don't. I knew there was a Hiram--that--there's more
than one Hiram Conway, about three or four in Fort Worth, I understand.
I never heard of Leslie Welding.
Mr. JENNER. Oswald worked for Leslie Welding at one time.
Mr. CONWAY. He did?
Mr. JENNER. We have an FBI report on an interview with Hiram L. Conway
and that's why I started out with you on that.
Mr. CONWAY. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. From the time that the Oswalds left Fort Worth in 1952,
from that time on, did you ever see Lee Oswald?
Mr. CONWAY. Never saw him again.
Mr. JENNER. Or John?
Mr. CONWAY. Oh, yes; I see John.
Mr. JENNER. He comes to visit you occasionally?
Mr. CONWAY. John never comes to Fort Worth without coming to see me.
Mr. JENNER. And Robert?
Mr. CONWAY. Robert never comes to see me.
Mr. JENNER. Robert lives in Fort Worth.
Mr. CONWAY. Well, I don't ever see him at all.
Mr. JENNER. He never comes back to pay you a visit?
Mr. CONWAY. No.
Mr. JENNER. And Marguerite, have you seen her since they left?