I skip a few lines and further read:

“I must say that Goebbels valued me as a convinced National

Socialist and a capable journalist so that I was considered his

confidential aid in the German propaganda machine.”

Is that correct?

FRITZSCHE: Mr. Prosecutor, that is not correct. I know that I have

signed this report but at the very moment when I signed it in Moscow I

stated:

“You can do what you like with that record. If you publish it,

then nobody in Germany will believe it and no intelligent person

in other countries either because this is not my language.”

I state that not a single one of the questions contained in this report

was put to me in that same form and I go on to declare that not a single

one of the answers in that record was given by me in that form and I

signed it for reasons which I will explain to you in detail if you want

me to.

GEN. RUDENKO: You therefore do not confirm these statements?

FRITZSCHE: No, only the signature is true.

GEN. RUDENKO: All right, let us say only the signature is true.

Well, we want to bear in mind that in this quotation which I just read

and which you deny, it is said that Goebbels valued you as a National

Socialist and a capable journalist and that therefore you were a

trustworthy person in the German propaganda machine. This is the essence

of the quotation; is that right? Do you deny this? Just a minute please.

I am going to remind you...

FRITZSCHE: Yes, General, I admit that, I admit these facts.

GEN. RUDENKO: Well, then the quotation was correct, was it not?

FRITZSCHE: Yes.

GEN. RUDENKO: Well then, what else are we speaking about? That means you

do corroborate this statement?

FRITZSCHE: I am talking about the record which has been put before me in

its entirety.

GEN. RUDENKO: At present I am questioning you with particular reference

to this quotation which I just read into the record. You are not going

to deny it? You admit it?

FRITZSCHE: I will not confirm the quotation but I will confirm once more

the contents which you have just summarized again.

GEN. RUDENKO: Very well. The sense is not different from the actual

quotation, but results from it. I should like to remind you of an

excerpt...

THE PRESIDENT: One moment. What is it you are saying, Defendant? Are you

saying that you did not sign this document or that you did?

FRITZSCHE: Mr. President, I signed the document, although its contents

did not correspond with my own statements.

THE PRESIDENT: Why did you do that?

FRITZSCHE: I gave that signature after very severe solitary confinement

which had lasted for several months; and I wrote that signature because

one of my fellow prisoners, with whom I came into contact once, had told

me that once every month a court was pronouncing sentences based merely

on such records and without interrogation; and I hoped that in this

manner I would at least achieve being sentenced and thus terminate my

confinement.

So as not to be misunderstood I should like to emphasize that no force

was used and that I was treated very humanely, even if my detention was

very severe.

GEN. RUDENKO: Very well. Of course, you never thought, Defendant

Fritzsche, that after all you had done you would be sent to a

sanatorium? It is obvious that you had to land in a prison and a prison

is always a prison. This was just an aside, however.

I should like to ask you about the following: You stated that in 1945

you signed this because of a very strict regime to which you were

subjected; very well—when you arrived in Nuremberg you were

interrogated on 3 November 1945 here in Nuremberg by General Alexandrov;

is that correct?

FRITZSCHE: Yes.

GEN. RUDENKO: So that is correct? Very well. I should like to remind you

of some of your answers. You were put the following question—on 12

November 1945 questions were put to you and you replied. Do you remember

these statements?

You answered, “I have very often been interrogated and I do not know

what statements and testimony are in question now.”

Thereupon, General Alexandrov submitted to you your testimony of 12

September and you answered him, “I am fully aware of this document.”

You were asked, “I should like you to peruse this document. Do you

remember these statements?”

You said, “Of course, there is no doubt about it.”

And further: “Do you corroborate this document, which you perused and

which was signed by you?”

And you replied, “Of course.”

Do you remember these statements which you made in Nuremberg?

FRITZSCHE: In the statement which you have quoted, all those passages

are missing where I stated again and again that the record was put

before me complete and finished for the purpose of obtaining my

signature. I wished to make 20 or 30 alterations. Some of them were

granted but passages were missing wherein I said in Nuremberg that some

of the answers in that protocol contained a certain amount of truth but

that none of them actually do represent my own answers.

GEN. RUDENKO: Very well. I should now like to remind you of an extract

from your statement of 7 January 1946.

Your Honors, this is Document 3469-PS. It is not in my book of documents

as it was submitted by the Counsel for the Defense. I am going to quote

from that document; it is a very short passage.

[_Turning to the defendant._] This is Paragraph 39 of your statement:

“Once Goebbels tried to coerce me into submitting my texts for

perusal. I refused this request and explained that usually I

dictated a short résumé of my speech immediately before my

broadcast and consequently, so to say, improvised my speeches.

He said it was all right but on condition that if he would wish

it, I should at least speak on specific, given themes.”

Is that right?

FRITZSCHE: Yes.

GEN. RUDENKO: Does that not indicate the confidence Goebbels had in you?

Is that not right?

FRITZSCHE: No doubt he had a great deal of confidence in me, and I did

not deny it.

GEN. RUDENKO: Very well. Let us proceed.

In this very same document, which I have just mentioned to you, that is

to say, in your statement of 7 January 1946, in Paragraph 35 there is

the following sentence—I think it was written by your own hand. It was

in reply to some of the questions put by your counsel. You say, “More

and more I became the only official authority in the Ministry in the

field of radio communication.”

Is that right?

FRITZSCHE: Unfortunately I did not hear the end of your question but you

have quoted the passage correctly and I have written it.

GEN. RUDENKO: So, it does correspond to facts?

FRITZSCHE: Yes, absolutely.

GEN. RUDENKO: Well, you therefore will admit that in the German

propaganda machinery you occupied the most prominent position after

Goebbels?

FRITZSCHE: No, my previous answer does not contain such a statement.

GEN. RUDENKO: I am asking you that now.

FRITZSCHE: I will admit that I had a most influential position in German

radio, of which I was the head.

If you now put a new question, asking who held the second position in

the entire set-up of propaganda after Dr. Goebbels, I will reply: Dr.

Dietrich, the State Secretary, or Dr. Naumann, the ...

GEN. RUDENKO: Excuse me just a minute, please. I did not say the second

position; I only said the most influential position. Are you going to

deny this?

FRITZSCHE: I have no objection to your use of the word “influential,”

but it does not change my answer.

GEN. RUDENKO: Very well, “influential position,” if you like. That is

still stronger. Let us proceed, however.

In the same statement of 7 January you wrote—it is contained in

Paragraph 15:

“During the entire period from 1933 to 1945 the task of the

‘German Press Department’ was the supervision of the local press

and supplying it with directives... More than 2,300 German

newspapers were thus supervised.”

And then:

“In the execution of this task given to me by Dr. Goebbels, in

accordance with instructions of the Ministry of Propaganda, my

activity encompassed the entire news and information system of

the German press and radio.”

Is that correct?

FRITZSCHE: I do not know whether you have quoted the last sentence

correctly, but I have certainly fully recognized the first sentences. It

is my affidavit Document 3469-PS. That corresponds word for word with

the truth.

SEN. RUDENKO: Quite correct. Please tell me this: You organized in the

German Press Department, the head of which you were, the Schnelldienst,

the so-called speed service, which supplied the German press with

provocative material. Do you admit that?

FRITZSCHE: If you will eliminate the word “provocative” and replace it

with the word “propaganda” material, then I will admit it.

GEN. RUDENKO: All right. The Tribunal will consider this. We are not

going to argue about it.

Now, the last question from this group of questions: Tell me, were your

broadcasts on the radio, which were presented with “Hans Fritzsche

Speaks,” considered official Government broadcasts?

FRITZSCHE: I explained this subject to you yesterday. Actually, they

were a private work of my own; but the private work, publicly audible,

of a Ministerialdirektor of the Ministry of Propaganda and the head of

the German radio system will, of course, be regarded as semi-official,

though not fully official; and this fact I had to consider, and I did

consider it.

GEN. RUDENKO: All right. Now, I should like again to revert to the

testimony of Ferdinand Schörner, which I have already submitted to the

Tribunal as Exhibit USSR-472. I should like to quote Paragraph Number 2.

Do you find it, Defendant Fritzsche?

FRITZSCHE: Yes.

GEN. RUDENKO: I am going to read it into the record.

THE PRESIDENT: General Rudenko, the Tribunal would like to see the whole

of this document, or at any rate would like to see the questions to

which these are answers.

GEN. RUDENKO: Mr. President, this document has been submitted to you in

full.

THE PRESIDENT: Oh, I see. You mean that what we have in English here are

only the parts that have been translated into English?

GEN. RUDENKO: Yes, that is quite correct. I am going to read into the

record Extract Number 2:

“I am fully aware that Fritzsche was a prominent collaborator of

the Ministry of Propaganda and that he was extremely popular in

National Socialist circles and among the German people. He

gained great popularity, especially by his weekly war political

radio commentaries on the international situation. I often heard

Fritzsche’s broadcasts in peacetime as well as during the war;

and I perceived his broadcasts, which were filled with fanatical

devotion to the Führer, as directives from the Party and the

Government.”

Do you agree with this evaluation?

FRITZSCHE: I cannot raise any objection to this quotation, but beyond

that...

THE PRESIDENT: General Rudenko, is the document sworn?

GEN. RUDENKO: This document was put into official form in accordance

with the processes which are in use in the Soviet Union.

THE PRESIDENT: Where was it taken?

GEN. RUDENKO: In Moscow.

THE PRESIDENT: The man who made the statement—was he free or was he in

prison?

GEN. RUDENKO: He was at the time a prisoner of war.

THE PRESIDENT: Did the man who is alleged to have made the statement

sign it?

GEN. RUDENKO: Of course, it was signed by him.

THE PRESIDENT: Go on.

GEN. RUDENKO: Thank you. And so you...

FRITZSCHE: May I add that it is known to me that on distant battle

fronts or, for example, with German colonies abroad, my radio speeches

were considered, shall we say, as a political compass.

GEN. RUDENKO: Yes, I understand. I should like to put to you another

document which I will ask you to peruse.

Your Honors, I am submitting as Exhibit USSR-471 the testimony of Hans

Voss.

Defendant Fritzsche, do you know this name, Vice Admiral Hans Voss?

FRITZSCHE: I know the name, but not the man personally.

DR. FRITZ: I apologize, Mr. President. It may be that the statement of

General Field Marshal Schörner does not deserve too much attention, but

at any rate I am unable to ascertain from the document the place where

it was taken.

THE PRESIDENT: General Rudenko says that it was taken at Moscow.

DR. FRITZ: But the record, the protocol itself, does not show that; and

then I have noticed also that the photostatic copy which I have here

does not show the signature of the Field Marshal. It just says “signed.”

Later on in the right margin a handwritten signature has been affixed,

but I do not know whether this document is admissible from a legal point

of view.

THE PRESIDENT: You can see the original and compare it.

GEN. RUDENKO: I am speaking about the Document USSR-471, which is a

written statement by Hans Voss. Please look at the Excerpt Number 1,

which is underlined; I quote:

“Fully devoted to Hitler and the National Socialist Party,

Fritzsche rendered priceless services in helping to spread

National Socialism throughout Germany.”

Is that in accordance with reality?

FRITZSCHE: Well, at least I will not object.

GEN. RUDENKO: In other words, you are in accord with it?

FRITZSCHE: As I told you, I do not object, but I do not want to say by

that that I concur.

GEN. RUDENKO: On the other hand, you do not deny this?

FRITZSCHE: No, I say for the third time that I do not raise any

objection.

GEN. RUDENKO: Very well. I should now like to question you regarding

your attitude toward the racial theory. You gave yesterday a detailed

explanation in this connection to your counsel, so that I am going to

put to you only two or three questions, and I should like you to reply

briefly.

Did you agree with this racial theory?

FRITZSCHE: Yes, and precisely to the extent which I described to you

yesterday.

GEN. RUDENKO: All right. In a radio broadcast on 6 April 1940 you spoke

about Poland.

Your Honors, this is Document USSR-496. I am not going to read this

document as I do not want to propagate the views contained in it, but I

should like the defendant to peruse this document.

Please will you look at Excerpt Number 1 of this document. It is

underlined in red pencil. This refers to your evaluation of the Polish

nation. I simply should like to ask you about this speech of yours.

FRITZSCHE: It is impossible for me to recognize a radio speech of mine

when I see an extract of only 20 lines, considering that I have spoken

about a thousand times, as I said yesterday. In that case, you will have

to let me have the full speech so that I can recognize my line of

thought at the time.

GEN. RUDENKO: Did you not examine the document? This is a full text of

your utterance which took place on 6 February 1940 on radio station,

Deutschland Sender.

FRITZSCHE: General, there are 20 lines here. They begin with the words,

“Considerable effort was necessary to...”

GEN. RUDENKO: That is enough, all right. There is no need in further

quoting. That is the document to which I am referring. I am asking you,

is that your speech?

FRITZSCHE: It is quite possible, but if you give me only 20 lines of

that speech, I can only confirm that: At the time when I had seen the

official German documents dealing with the atrocities committed against

Germans in Poland I talked about that with great disgust on the radio,

talked about what I saw in those documents.

THE PRESIDENT: Shall we adjourn now?

GEN. RUDENKO: All right, Mr. President.

DR. THOMA: I ask you to grant leave for Defendant Rosenberg to be absent

from the Court this afternoon because I have an important conference to

hold with him.

THE PRESIDENT: Yes.

[_The Tribunal recessed until 1400 hours._]

_Afternoon Session_

GEN. RUDENKO: Defendant Fritzsche, extracts from your speech dated 5

July 1941 will be handed to you. They concern the opposition which the

German Fascist troops encountered while entering Soviet territory. My

Lord, this Document Number 3064-PS has already been submitted by the

Defense.

Will you look at Paragraph 7, the last paragraph? I do not intend to

read it.

FRITZSCHE: Yes, I have noted it.

GEN. RUDENKO: Very well. Do you admit having used those very

expressions?

FRITZSCHE: Yes, I admit that and I should like to emphasize, without

quoting it, in what connection this statement was made.

GEN. RUDENKO: Very well. I merely want to ask you the following: When,

in your speeches you insult the Polish and Russian peoples by calling

them “subhumans” do you not consider that these are expressions of

misanthropic theories?

FRITZSCHE: Mr. Prosecutor, I should like to state that I never called

the Russian people or the Polish people subhumans.

GEN. RUDENKO: Very well. I do not intend to argue with you; the

documents speak for themselves.

I would like to turn again to the statement of Hans Voss. This is

Document USSR-471. It has already been submitted. Will you pay attention

to Excerpt Number 2? It is underlined. It is just a short excerpt, and I

will read it:

“...and he”—Fritzsche—“understood how to influence the German

mind when he tried to convince them that they, the Germans, were

the superior race and therefore had to rule over other peoples

as their slaves.”

Does that agree with the facts?

FRITZSCHE: No, it does not agree with the facts; rather, it contradicts

the facts in all points.

GEN. RUDENKO: Let us say it contradicts your assertions.

Very well, I will put another question to you. Do you know the name

Lieutenant General Rainer Stahel, who was the former commander of the

city of Warsaw?

FRITZSCHE: I am not familiar with that name.

GEN. RUDENKO: You are not familiar with that name? Very well. You will

be handed a document.

Mr. President, this is Document USSR-473, and it is the testimony of

Rainer Stahel, dated 15 September 1941. The passage is underlined in

your copy.

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