I noticed the "us," but still evaded putting him in with the rest.

"Why do they not let liquor alone, after such a hard lesson?"

He laughed. He had a red, bloated, but not a bad face. He was an

Englishman.

"Some of us can't. Some don't want to, and some--some--it is about all

some can get."

Later on, I was told that this man was honest, a good worker, and that

he was "self-committed to get the liquor out of him. He's been here

before. When he gets out, he will be drunk before he gets three blocks

away from the dock, and he'll be sent here again--or to the Island!"

"And has this system gone on for a hundred years," I asked, "without

finding some remedy?"

"Well, since the women began to take a hand, some little has been done,"

the officer replied. "They built a coffee and lodging house right near

the landing, and take returning prisoners there, and give them a chance

to work if they want to--in a broom factory they built. Some get a start

that way and if they work and are honest, they get a letter saying so

when they find places. It is only a drop in the bucket, but it helps a

few."

"It looks a little as though, if women were to take a hand in public,

municipal, or governmental affairs, that reform, and not punishment,

might be made the object of imprisonment if imprisonment became

necessary, doesn't it?"

He laughed.

"Politics is no place for women. This they are doing is charity. That is

all very well, but they got no business meddling with city government,

and courts, and prisoners only _as_ charity."

"Yet you say that, for a hundred years, those who look after the criminal

population, thought very little of helping the men who came out, much

less did they think of beginning at the other end and trying to keep

them from going in. Women have been allowed to devise public charities,

even, for only a few years past. They had no experience in building

manufactories and conducting coffee and lodging houses; they have but

little money of their own to put into such things and yet they have

bethought them to start, in embryo, right here where the returning

convict lands, what appears to have vast possibilities as you say. Now

if this effort for the prevention of crime and want were at the other

end of the line in municipal government, don't you think it might go

even nearer the root of the matter and do more good?"

"How would you like to be a ward politician and a heeler?" he inquired,

wiping a smile away and looking at my gloves.

"I should not like it at all."

"Well, now, look at that! Of course no lady would, so--"

"Do you think it possible that the world might get on fairly comfortably

without having 'heelers' and 'ward politicians'--in the sense you

mean--in municipal or state government? And that it might be better

without such crime producers?" I added, as he began to laugh.

"You women are always visionary. Never practical. You--"

"I thought you said that the one and only really practical measure yet

taken to reduce the criminal population as it returns from the Islands

was invented and is conducted by women and--"

"You can just make up your mind that in every family of six there'll

be one hypocrite and one fool, either one of which is liable to be a

criminal, too, and the State has got to take care of 'em somehow. But

the prisons _are_ getting too full and the Almshouses and Insane Asylums

_are_ growing very large. But there is the Two Brothers' Island. I've

got to attend to my business now. Take the trip with me again some

time."

But it seems to me, I shall not need to go again, and that no judge

or legislator would need to take the journey more than once, unless,

perchance, he took it in the person of either the hypocrite or the fool

of his family; which, let us hope, no judge and no legislator is in a

position to do.

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