"Freedom--I was a little boy. I cried to go with the bigger children.

They had to tote water. One day I heard somebody crying over 'cross a

ditch and fence covered with vines and small trees. I heard, 'Do pray

master.' I run hid under the house. I was snoring when they found me. I

heard somebody say, 'Slave day is over.' That is all I ever knowed about

freedom. The way I knowed, a Yankee. We was in the road piling up sand

and a lot of blue coats on horses was coming. We got out of the road and

went to tell our white folks. They said, 'Get out of their way, they are

Yankees.'

"When I left Alabama I went to Mississippi. I worked my way on a

steamboat. I had been trained to do whatever I was commanded. The man,

my boss, said, 'Mack, get the rope behind the boiler and tie it to the

stob and 'dead man'. I tied it to the stob and I was looking for a dead

man. He showed me what it was. Then I tied it. I went to Vicksburg then.

I had got mixed up with a woman and run off.

"I been married once in my life. I had eighteen children. Nine lived. I

got a boy here and a girl in Pine Bluff. My son's wife is mean to me. I

don't want to stay here. If I can get my pension started, I want to live

with my daughter.

"I used to vote Republican. They claimed it made times better for my

race. I found out better. I don't vote now. Wilson was good as Mr.

Roosevelt, I think. I voted about eight years ago, I reckon. I didn't

vote for Mr. Roosevelt.

"I wish I was young and had the chance this generation has got. Times is

better every way for a good man unless he is unable to work like I am

now. (This old man tends his garden, a large nice one--ed.) My son

supports me now."

Interviewer: Samuel S. Taylor

Person interviewed: Ellen Brass

1427 W. Eighth Street, Little Rock, Arkansas

Age: About 82

[HW: White Folks want Niggers]

"I was born in Alabama in Green County. I was about four years old when

I came from there; so I don't know much about it. I growed up in

Catahoula, Louisiana. My mother's name was Caroline Butler and my

father's name was Lee Butler. One of my father's brothers was named Sam

Butler. I used to be a Butler myself, but I married. My father and

mother were both slaves. They never did any slave work.

Father Free Raised

"My father was free raised. The white folks raised him. I don't know how

he became free. All that I know is that he was raised right in the house

with the white folks and was free. His mother and father were both

slaves. I was quite small at the time and didn't know much. They bought

us like cattle and carried us from place to place.

Slave Houses

"The slaves lived in log cabins with one room. I don't know what kind of

house the white folks lived in. They, the colored folks, ate corn bread,

wheat bread (they raised wheat in those times), pickled pork. They made

the flour right on the plantation. George Harris, a white man, was the

one who brought me out of Louisiana into this State. We traveled in

wagons in those days. George Harris owned us in Louisiana.

Slave Sales

"We were sold from George Harris to Ben Hickinbottom. They bought us

then like cattle. I don't know whether it was a auction sale or a

private sale. I am telling it as near as I know it, and I am telling the

truth. Hickinbottom brought us to Catahoula Parish in Louisiana. Did I

say Harris brought us? Well, Hickinbottom brought us to Louisiana. I

don't know why they went from one place to the other like that. The

soldiers were bad about freeing the slaves. From Catahoula Parish,

Hickinbottom carried us to Alexandria, Louisiana, and in Alexandria, we

was set free.

How Freedom Came

"According to my remembrance the Yankees come around and told the people

they was free. I was in Alexandria, Louisiana. They told the colored

folks they was free and to go and take what they wanted from the white

folks. They had us all out in the yard dancing and playing. They sang

the song:

'They hung Jeff Davis on a sour apple tree

While we all go marching on.'

It wasn't the white folks on the plantation that told us we was free. It

was the soldiers their selves that came around and told us. We called

'em Yankees.

Right After the War

"Right after the War, my folks farmed--raised cotton and corn. My mother

had died before I left Alabama. They claimed I was four years old when

my mother died in Alabama. My father died after freedom.

Occupation

"My first occupation was farming--you know, field work. Sometimes I used

to work around the white people too--clean house and like that.

Random Opinions

"The white folks ain't got no reason to mistreat the colored people.

They need us all the time. They don't want no food unless a nigger cooks

it. They want niggers to do all their washing and ironing. They want

niggers to do their sweeping and cleaning and everything around their

houses. The niggers handle everything they wears and hands them

everything they eat and drink. Ain't nobody can get closer to a white

person than a colored person. If we'd a wanted to kill 'em, they'd a all

done been dead. They ain't no reason for white people mistreating

colored people."

Interviewer: Miss Irene Robertson

Person interviewed: Alice Bratton, Wheatley, Arkansas

Age: 56

"I was born a few miles from Martin, Tennessee. Mama was born in

Virginia. She and her sister was carried off from the Witherspoon place

and sold. She was Betty and her sister was named Addie.

"Their mama had died and some folks said they would raise them and then

they sold them. She said they never did know who it was that carried

them off in a big carriage. They brought them to Nashville, Tennessee

and sold them under a big oak tree. They was tied with a hame string to

a hitching ring. Addie wanted to set down and couldn't. She said,

'Betty, wouldn't our mama cry if she could see us off like this?' Mama

said they both cried and cried and when the man come to look at them he

said he would buy them. They felt better and quit crying. He was such a

kind looking young man.

"They lived out from Nashville a piece then. He took them home with him,

on a plank across the wagon bed. He was Master Davy Fuller. He had a

young wife and a little baby. Her name was Mistress Maude and the baby

was Carrie. She was proud of Betty and Addie. They told her their mama

died. Mama said she was good to them. She died the year of the surrender

and Master Davy took them all to his mother's and his papa put them out

to live with a family that worked on his place.

"They went to see Carrie and played with her till Addie married and mama

come close to Martin to live with them. Addie took consumption and died,

then mama married Frank Bane and he died and I was born.

"My pa was a white man. He was a bachelor, had a little store, and he

overcome mama. She never did marry no more. I was her only child. I

don't remember the man but mama told me how she got tripped up and

nearly died and for me never to let nobody trip me up that way. I sorter

recollect the store. It burned down one night. We lived around over

there till I was sixteen years old. We moved to a few miles of Corinth,

Mississippi on a farm. Mr. Cat Madford was the manager. I got married. I

married Will Bratton. We had a home wedding on Sunday evening. It was

cold and freezing and the freeze lasted over a week. Will Bratton was

black as night. I had one little boy. After mama died Will Bratton went

off with another woman. He come back but the place was mine. Mama left

it to me. I wouldn't let him stay there. I let him go on where he

pleased.

"Times been growing slacker for a long time. People live slack. Young

folks coming on slacker and slacker every day. Don't know how to do,

don't want to know. They get by better 'en I did. I work in the field

and I can't hardly get by. I see folks do nothing all the time. Seem

like they happy. Times is hard for some, easy for some. I want to live

in the country like I is 'cause I belongs there. I can work and be

satisfied! I did own my home. I reckon I still do. I got a little cow

and some chickens."

Interviewer: Samuel S. Taylor

Person interviewed: Frank Briles

817 Cross Street, Little Rock, Arkansas

Age: About 82 or 83

[HW: Gives up the Ghost]

"I was born right here in Arkansas. My father's name was Moses Briles.

My mother's name was Judy Briles. Her name before she was married I

don't know. They belonged to the Briles. I don't know their first name

either.

"My father was under slavery. He chopped cotton and plowed and scraped

cotton. That is where I got my part from. He would carry two rows along

at once. I was little and couldn't take care of a row by myself. I was

born down there along the time of the War, and my father didn't live

long afterwards. He died when they was settin' them all free. He was a

choppin' for the boss man and they would set them up on blocks and sell

them. I don't know who the man was that did the selling, but they tell

me they would sell them and buy them.

"I am sick now. My head looks like it's goin' to bust open.

"I have heard them tell about the pateroles. I didn't know them but I

heard about them. Them and the Ku Klux was about the same thing. Neither

one of them never did bother my folks. It was just like we now, nobody

was 'round us and there wasn't no one to bother you at all at Briles'

plantation. Briles' plantation I can't remember exactly where it was. It

was way down in the west part of Arkansas. Yes, I was born way back

south--east--way back. I don't know what the name of the place was but

it was in Arkansas. I know that. I don't know nothing about that. My

father and mother came from Virginia, they said. My father used to drive

cattle there, my mother said. I don't know nothin' except what they told

me.

"I learnt a little some thing from my folks. I think of more things

every time I talk to somebody. I know one thing. The woman that bossed

me, she died. That was about--Lord I was a little bitty of a fellow,

didn't know nothin' then. She made clothes for me. She kept me in the

house all the time. She was a white woman. I know when they was setting

them free. I was goin' down to get a drink of water. My father said.

'Stop, you'll be drowned.' And I said, 'What must I do?' And he said,

'Go back and set down till I come back.' I don't know what my father was

doing or where he was going. There was a man--I don't know who--he come

'round and said, 'You're all free.' My mama said, 'Thank God for that.

Thank God for that.' That is all I know about that.

"When I got old enough to work they put me in the woods splitting rails

and plowing. When I grew up I scraped cotton and worked on the farm.

That is where my father would come and say, 'Now, son, if anybody asks

you how you feel, tell them the truth.'

"I went to school one session and then the man give down. He got sick

and couldn't carry it no longer. His pupils were catching up with him I

reckon. It was time to get sick or somethin'.

"I never did marry. I was promised to marry a woman and she died. So I

said, 'Well, I will give up the ghost. I won't marry at all.'

"I ain't able to do no work now 'cept a little pittling here and there.

I get a pension. It's been cut a whole lot."

Interviewer: Mrs. Bernice Bowden

Person interviewed: Mary Ann Brooks

James Addition, Pine Bluff, Arkansas

Age: 90

"I was born here in Arkansas. Durin' the war we went to Texas and stayed

one year and six months.

"My old master was old Dr. Brewster. He bought me when I was a girl

eight yeers old. Took me in for a debt. He had a drug store. I was a

nurse girl in the house. Stayed in the house all my life.

"I stayed here till Dr. Brewster--Dr. Arthur Brewster was his

name--stayed here till he carried me to his brother-in-law Dr. Asa

Brunson. Stayed there awhile, then the war started and he carrled us all

to Texas.

"I seen some Yankeee after we come back to Arkansas. I wes scared of em.

"I don't knew nothln' bout the war. I wasn't in it. I was livin' but we

was in Texas.

"The Ku Klux got after us twice when we was goin' to Texas. We had six

wagons, a cart, and a carriage. Old Dr. Brunson rode in the carriage.

He'd go ahead and pilot the way. We got lost twice. When we come to Red

River it was up and we had to camp there three weeks till the water

fell.

"We took some sheep and some cows so we could kill meat on the way. I

member we forded Saline River. Dr. Brunson carried us there and stayed

till he hired us out.

"After the war ceasted he come after us. Told as we didn't belong to him

no more--said we was free as he was. Yankees sent him after us. All the

folks come back--all but one famlly.

"I had tolerable good owners. Miss Fanny Brewster good to me.

"Old master got drunk so much. Come home sometimes muddy as a hog. All

his chillun was girls. I nursed all the girls but one.

"I was a mighty dancer when I was young--danced all night long.

Paddyrollers run us home from dancin' one night.

"I member one song we used to sing:

'Hop light lady

Cake was all dough--

Never mind the weather,

So the wind don't blow.'

"How many chillun I have? Les see--count em up. Ida, Willie, Clara--had

six.

"Some of the young folks nowadays pretty rough. Some of em do right and

some don't.

"Never did go to school. Coulda went but papa died and had to go to

work.

"I thinks over old times sometimes by myself. Didn't know what freedom

was till we was free and didn't hardly know then.

"Well, it's been a long time. All the Brewsters and the Bransons dead

and I'm still here--blind. Been blind eight years."

Waters Brooks

1814 Pulaski Street, Little Rock, Ark.

Retired railroad worker, No. Pac. 75

[TR: Information moved from bottom of each page.]

[HW: A Railroad Work History]

I was only three years old when peace (1865) was declared. I was born in

1862. Peace was declared in 1865. I remember seeing plenty of men that

they said the white folks never whipped. I remember seeing plenty of men

that they said bought their own freedom.

I remember a woman that they said fought with the overseer for a whole

day and stripped him naked as the day he was born. She was Nancy Ward.

Her owner was named Billie Ward. He had an overseer named Roper. Her

husband ran away from the white folks and stayed three years. He was in

the Bayou in a boat and the bottom dropped out of it. He climbed a tree

and hollered for someone to tel his master to come and get him if he

wanted him.

FATHER

My father's master was John T. Williams. He went into the army--the

rebel army--and taken my father with him. I don't know how long my

father stayed in the army but I was only 6 months old when he died. He

had some kind of stomach trouble and died a natural death.

MOTHER

My mother and father both belonged to Joe Ward at first but Ward died

and his widow married Williams. My mother told me and not only told me

but showed me knots across her shoulder where they whipped her from

seven in the morning until nine at night. She went into the smoke house

to get some meat and they closed in on her and shut the door and strung

her up by her hands (her arms were crossed and a rope run from her

wrists to the hook in the ceiling on which meat was hung). There were

three of them. One would whip until he was tired, and then the other

would take it up.

Some years after she got that whipping, her master's child was down to

the bayou playing in the water. She told the child to stop playing in

the water, and it did not. Instead it threw dirt into the water that had

the bluing in it. Then she took the child and threw it into the Bayou.

Some way or other the child managed to scramble out. When the child's

aunt herd it from the child, she questioned my mother and asked her if

she did it. My mother told her "Yes". Then she said. "Well what do you

want to own it for? Don't you know if they find it out they will kill

you?"

HOW FREEDOM CAME

My mother said that an old white man came through the quarters one

morning and said that they were all free--that they could go away or

stay where they were or do what they wanted to. If you will go there, I

can send you to an old man eighty-six years old who was in General

Sherman's army. He came from Mississippi. I don't know where he was a

slave. But he can tell you when peace was declared aad what they said

and everything.

WHAT THE SLAVES EXPECTED

The slaves were not expecting much but they were expecting more than

they got. I am not telling you anything I read in history but I have

heard that there was a bounty in the treasury for the ex-slaves, and

them alone. And some reason or other they did not pay it off, but the

time was coming when they would pay it off. And every man or woman

living that was born a slave would benefit from it. They say that

Abraham Lincoln principally was killed because he was going to pay this

money to the ex-slaves end before they would permit it they killed him.

Old man White who lives out in the west part of town was an agent for

some Senator who was in Washington, and he charged a dime and took your

name and age and the place where you lived.

KU KLUX KLAN

They called the K.K.K. "White Cape". Right there in my neighborhood,

there was a colered man who hadn't long come in. The colored man was

late coming into the lot to get the mule for the white man and woman he

was working for. The white man hit him. The Negro knocked the white man

down and was going to kill him when the white man begged him off,

telling him that he wouldn't let anybody else hurt him. He (the Negro)

went on off and never came back. That night there were two hundred White

Caps looking for him but they didn't find him.

Another man got into an argument. They went to work and it started to

rain. The Negro thought that they would stop working because of the

rain; so he started home. The man he was working for met him and asked

him where he was going. When he told him he started to hit him with the

butt end of the gun he was wearing. The Negro knocked his gun up, took

it away from him, and drawed down and started to kill him when another

Negro knocked the gun up, and saved the white man's life. But the Nigger

might as well have killed him because that night seventy-five masked men

hunted him. He was hid away by his friends until he got a chance to get

away. This man was named Matthew Collins.

There was another case. This was a political one. The colored man wanted

to run for representative of some kind. He had been stump speaking. He

lived on a white man's place, and the owner came to him and told him he

had better get away because a mob was coming after him (not just

K.K.K.). He told his wife to go away and stay with his brother but she

wouldn't. He hid himself in a trunk and his wife was under the floor

with his two children. The white men fired into the house and that

didn't do anything, so they throwed a ball of fire into the house and

burned his wife and children. Then he rose up and came out of the trunk

and hollered, "Look out I'm coming", and he fired a load of buck shot

and tore one man nearly in two and ran away in the confusion. The next

day he went to the man on whose place he lived, but he told him he

couldn't do anything about it.

Another man by the name of Bob Sawyer had a farm near my home and

another farm down near Maginty's place. He worked the ????[TR:

Illegible] Niggers from one farm to the other.

His boy would ride in front with a rifle and he would be in the rear

with a big gun swinging down from his hip. There wae one Nigger who got

out and went down to Alexandria (Louisiana). He wrote to the officers

and they caught the Nigger and put him into the stocks and brought him

back, and the man hadn't done a thing but run away. After that they

worked him with a chain holding his legs together so that he could only

make short steps.

They had an old white man who worked there and they treated him so mean

he ran away and left his wife. They treated the poor whites about as bad

as they treated the colored.

If Bob met a Negro carrying cotton to the Gin, he would ask "Whose

cotton is that?", and if the Nigger said it was some white man's, he

would let him alone. But if he said. "Mine", Bob would tell him to take

it to some Gin where he wanted it taken. He was the kind of man that if

you seen him first, you wouldn't meet him.

One night he slipped up on a Nigger man that had left his place and

killed him as he sat at supper. I had an aunt with five or six children

who worker with him. He married my young Mistress after I was freed.

I saw him do this. The white folks had a funeral at the church down

there one Sunday. He came along and young Billie Ward (white man) was

sitting in a buggy driving with his wife. When he saw Billie, he jumped

down out of his buggy and horse-whipped him until he ran away. All the

while, Sawyer's mother-in-law was sitting in his buggy calling out,

"Shoot him, Bob, shoot him." this was because Billie and another man

had done some talk about Bob.

OCCUPATIONS

I came to Brinkley, Arkansas, March 4, 1900, and have been in Arkansas

ever since. Why I came, the postmaster where I was rented farm on which

I was farming. In March he put hands in my field to pick my cotton. All

that was in the field was mine. I knew that I couldn't do anything about

it so I left. A couple of years before that I rented five acres of land

from him for three dollars as acre (verbal agreement) sowed it down in

cotton. It done so well I made five bales of cotton on it. He saw the

prospects were so good that he went to the man who furnished me supplies

and told him that I had agreed to do my work on a third and fourth

(one-third of the seed and one-fourth of the cotton to go to the owner).

He get this although if he had stuck to the agreement he would not have

gotten but fifteen dollars. So he dealt me a blow there, but I got over

it.

Before this I had bought a piece of timber land in Moorehouse parish

(Louisiana) and was expecting to get the money to finish paying for it

from my cotton. The cost was $100.00. So when he put hands in my field,

it made me mad, and I left. (Brooks would have lost most of his cotton

if the hands had picked it.)

At Brinkley, I farmed on halves with Will Carter, one of the richest men

in Monroe County (Arkansas). I done $17.50 worth of work for Carter and

he paid me for it. Then he turned around and charged me up with it. When

we came to settle up, we couldn't settle. So finally, he said, "Figures

don't lie." and I said, "No, figures don't lie but men do." When I sed

that I stepped out and didn't get scared until I was half way home. But

nobody did anything. He sent for me but I wouldn't go back because I

knew what he was doing.

After that I went to Wheatley, Arkansas, about five miles west of

Brinkley. I made a crop for Goldberg. Jake Readus was Goldberg's agent.

The folks had told the white folks I wasn't no account, so I couldn't

get nothing only just a little fat meat and bread, and I got as naked as

a jaybird. About the last part of August, when I had done laid by and

everything. Jake Readus came by and told me what the Niggers had said

and said he knowed it was a lie because I had the best crop on the

place.

When Goldberg went to pay me off, he told Dr. Beauregard to come and get

his money. I said. "You give me my money; I pay my own debts. You have

nothing to do with it." When I said that you could have heard a pin

drop. But he gave it to me. Then I called the Doctor and gave him his

money and he receipted me. I never stayed there but one year.

I moved then down to Napel[TR: Possibly Kapel] Slough on Dr. West's

place. I wanted to rent but Dr. West wouldn't advance me anything unless

he took a mortgage on my place; so I wouldn't stay there. I chartered a

car and took my things back to Brinkley at a cost of ten dollars. I

stayed around Brinkley all the winter.

While I was at Wheatley, there was a man by the name of Will Smith who

married the daughter of Dr. Paster, druggist at Brinkley. Now Jim Smith,

poor white trash, attempted to assault Will Thomas' daughter. Negro

girl. When Thomas heard it, he hunted Jim with a Winchester. When that

got out, Deputy Sheriff arrested Will and they said that he was chained

when he was brought to trial. He got away from them somehow and went to

Jonesboro. I took my horse and rid seven or eight miles to carry his

clothes. Another Nigger who had promised to make a crop when he left had

the blood beat out of his back because he didn't do it.

The winter, I worked at the Gin and Black Saw Mills. That spring I pulls

up and goes to Brises. That was in the year 1903. I made a crop with old

man Wiley Wormley one of the biggest Niggers there. I fell short. George

Walker furnished what I had.

Then I left and went back to Brinkley and worked at the Sawmill again.

That was in 1904. I went to Jonesboro. I had just money enough to go to

Jonesboro, and I had a couple of dollars over. I had never been out

before that; so I spent that and didn't get any work. I stayed there

three days and nights and didn't get anything to eat. Lived in a box

car. Then I went to work with the Cotton Belt.

My boarding mistress decided to go up to fifteen dollars for board. I

told her I couldn't pay her fifteen dollars for that month, but would

begin next month. She wouldn't have that and got the officers to look

for my money so I caught the train and went back to Brinkley and worked

on the railroad again from the Cotton Belt to the Rock Island.

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